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Florian Hahn, defense policy spokesperson for the CDU/CSU parliamentary group, is connected to me. Yes, I would like to greet you warmly again, so Poland is Slovakia and wants to deliver MiG 29 fighter jets to Ukraine. old fighter planes The federal government now supports Ukraine with other weapons. We had a heated discussion in this country about battle tanks, but fighter planes, no, so far Berlin says no, now Germany should gradually unite so that there is no need to take action. Now the German side, so to speak, Poland and Slovakia obviously decided to deliver 29 of their stocks to Ukraine.

This is certainly a real strengthening for Ukraine because, although the plane is old, it is a very, very good plane and. they can fly in Ukraine in particular because they are also trained on this type of aircraft, we do not have any with 29 in our stocks. That's why the question is not asked for the 29 of us, but in principle maybe the discussion should take place in Germany after the fighter jets or you can say no, we'll leave it completely alone for now, so the question really is if that makes sense. First, of course, we have to go a little further, also considering our own national and alliance defense. the question is how many aircraft do we actually have for this and how many of those that should be there are actually operational, so I would venture to guess that here we are also in a very weak position and secondly, we have types of aircraft that the pilots in Ukraine it could not fly, so completely different questions would arise here than those that currently arise in the case of Poland or Slovakia, and these are the technical circumstances and in Slovakia there are important ones.

The opposition and the population are also worried that this will drag them further into the war. Some parties are also expecting a lawsuit before the Constitutional Court or do they hope that this concern will also change the mood against this type of arms deliveries in Germany? Don't be fooled by Russian propaganda, so to speak, because, so to speak, legally there is no difference between handing over a cheetah, a leopard or one with 29. It is not a violation of international law to hand over weapons to a country that in this moment is being attacked and that there is war after an attack and that does not change when it comes to an airplane Another question about the arrest warrant that the International Criminal Court issued yesterday against Russian President Vladimir Putin, there were many.

It really surprises me how important it is in his eyes, also as a symbol in this war, also as a symbol for the military on both sides but, of course, also for the people. I think it is important in this conflict in this war. that Putin started, that it is something that is continually being made clear, that we not only hear propaganda from Russia, but it is clear that Putin is a war criminal, that what the Russian Federation is currently doing in Ukraine is a war crime. and that has to be documented over and over again, so it really helps against Russian propaganda and it's really indisputable if we imagine that 10,000 or 10,000 children were kidnapped in the Russian Federation without having any contact with their parents, etc.

These are all things that show that Putin and his regime are really war criminals and are war criminals, says Florian, defense policy spokesman for the cdu/cs in the Bundestag. Thank you so much.