Why Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads didn't get along, what happened

What's the deal between Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhodes? Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhods are groundbreaking guitar legends who influenced generations of rock guitarists. Randy Rhods was a big influence on heavy metal guitarists of the '80s, like John Syes, Michael Angelo Badio, who me. I played with Zach Wild just to name a few and of course Eddie Van Halen influenced almost every guitarist, his tone and techniques, everyone wanted to get their guitars and amps and play like him including me so

what

's the problem, why Randy Rose and Eddie? Van Halen

didn

't get along very well because when Randy died in the plane crash Eddie said that everything he did he learned from me and I really don't think he did anything that I

didn

't do, which of course sounds delusional, well, Randy RH.

He started the competition first, telling Eddie and making intelligent comments about his playing. This is

what

happened

in 1976 or 77. He first saw Van Halen and left the show devastated according to his ex-girlfriend Jan, the first time Randy RH saw Van Halen in 76 or 77 he took his girlfriend Jan with him . Jan later said that Randy was devastated after the show. Here he was the king of Burbank. Everyone always told him how great it was to see Eddie Van Halen play. It was a real revelation for him, but he also felt inspired. From what he saw and heard, he thought Van Halen was amazing and he wanted to be amazing too.

This is what Kelly Garney, Randy's friend, said. We first heard about Van Halen when they were still known as Mammoth, they were playing parties in Pasadena. I heard rumors that there was a big loud band there and Randy finally got his girlfriend to take him to one of the parties to hear them. I asked him how they were when he came back, but all he said was that they were pretty good the band Randy was in Quiet Riot and Van Halen played on the same bill at Glendale College in April 1977 Quiet Riot opened Van Halen was the headliner.

Randy approached Eddie and asked him how he could keep his tar in tune without a locknut for his tremolo and Eddie refused to tell him that it was his own secret. This was a shock to Randy. He loved helping others and he was always willing to share anything he knew. He would teach anyone anything they wanted. He wanted to learn, so he was quite disappointed with Eddie's treatment of him. It must have been like a verbal slap in the face at a guitar clinic in 1982. Randy was asked. There are critics who accuse you of copying Eddie Van Halen.

Are you influenced by him and this? is what Randy responded well we're both from the same city and we were both in local bands, it seemed like everyone in LA was a league guitarist and we all played very similar, everyone used to say we all sounded very much the same, however , It sounds pretty suspicious that a group of guys suddenly came out at the same time and started playing similarly and sounding the same. Someone had to get the ball rolling and of course that someone was Eddie Van Halen, actually in 1977 the three local bands van Halen.

Quiet Riot and the boys rocked bars and clubs in Hollywood like Starwood and Whiskey in Los Angeles. Lynch played in a band called The Boys and worked in the clubs on Hollywood's Sunset Strip along with some of his contemporaries such as Van Halen and Quiet Riot at the time. Randy commented on Eddie Van Halen's performance Eddie's performance is mostly smoke in the mirrors. You want to see a guy who can really play and play well. Look at George Lynch, he's an incredible musician. Mammoth Fan Halen opened for George's band when he saw Eddie play for the first time.

George's band was supposed to sign that night, but Van Halen kicked them off the stage. It's a famous local story here in the Hollywood area. George later said that he needed to quit the guitar together or take lessons like this. That set George back a few years. In fact, to play a showcase for Jean Simmons of Kiss and her initial label, Van Halen opened the show and Jean opted not to stay and see the boys after this mider lynching before joining Dawan twice. Lynch once auditioned for the position of Leag's Australian guitarist. In 1979 he lost to Randy Rhodes and on another occasion in 1982 to replace Brad Gillis, according to Lynch, he was signed for three days before Aussie changed his mind and decided to go with Jakey Lee.

I personally try to audition for Aussie when Zack Wild won. Anyway, at that particular gig I sent my photo and demo to Aussie and he never called me back. Now George Lynch became famous much later, in the 80s, people started hearing about Lynch four or five years after Van Halen's first album came out and he is considered the Guitar Shredder Wave of the 80s after Eddie So Randy rhs criticized Eddie's plane calling it smoking mirrors and claimed that George Lynch played better, but in 2009 George Lynch himself revealed that everyone was jealous of Eddie Van Halen in the late 70s and this is what he said George Lynch we were jealous and we were all trying to catch up we thought, oh boy we better get together, this guy is going to change the world.

I remember my reaction when I heard Eddie for the first time. I had been hearing about this guy. with the strange European name he has a torpedo on stage the bassist wears clogs they have bombs on stage and the guy is amazing. I saw him and he blew me away. They were still doing covers at the time of Rainbow Montros and their original material was as good or better than their covers, which were pretty exceptional after their show. I went back to our band room and played my guitar until the sun came up. I was like, man, how can I get that shade in 2022?

George Lyn said that Eddie Van Halen was a big influence on him. Randy was not an influence on George but Eddie was also an influence on Randy. It was like Jimmy Hendrick who came and changed the way everyone played guitar. Eddie was setting the bar that everyone wanted to be as cool as Eddie actually during an interview in the 80's when Eddie was asked how you learned to play so fast, he sarcastically replied: I don't play very fast, actually, they're all mirrors, You know? Where did you learn to play so fast? You lock yourself in and lock yourself in a room and I don't play very fast they're actually all mirrors, you know, mhm and 1981 Randy rhods was interviewed by journalist John Sticks.

John John asked that you didn't go through a stage of imitation innovation. Most people start with an imitation, to which Randy Rhods responded: Honestly, I wish I could agree with you even now, everything happens so fast in this band that I haven't had enough time to really think about what I want to do, For example, I do a live solo at Suicide Solutions and I do a lot of things that Eddie Van Halen does and it kills me that he does it, it's just flash and it impresses the kids and I'm trying to make a name for myself as quickly as I can.

I wish I could take the time and think of something that no one has done before. Unfortunately, it will take me a few years here. Randy admits that he uses things that Eddie Van Halen does, but he criticizes them as just flash sounds disrespectful to Eddie Van Halen. Randy played his guitar solo at the Suicide Solutions location to impress the audience, but he didn't do it. I don't want to be considered a clone of Eddie and I definitely wanted to separate myself from Eddie's life. Here is a story from Randy Rhod's biography written by Andrew Kleine that makes it seem like Eddie was aware of what Randy was doing when Randy was home during the Aussie holidays. to tour with her he decided to drive to his local music store to buy some classic albums Randy said that when he walked into the record store Eddie Van Halen was standing in line at the register buying the album Diary of a Madman Did this story interest you? seems plausible?

In 1982, at the height of his career, Eddie Van Halen goes to the record store at the exact same time and place that Randy Rhods goes to buy an Australian record, presumably because he really needs to hear what Randy Rhods was doing, couldn't he? have done it? having someone pick it up sounds more like the story was made up to troll Eddie and in 1977 they all played clubs but the first Van Halen was a big hit and a few years later the Aussie band got big and people started to talk about Randy and his guitar style and Eddie was aware of that, he said he read some interviews with Randy, which means he was interested and wanted to know what Randy was doing.

People who knew Randy said that Eddie Van Halen was one of Randy's favorite musicians and that he encouraged him. to be a better audio producer Max Norman who worked at Blizzard of Oz in 1980 remembered that Van Halen was one of the few guitarists Randy was talking about one day I asked him what guitarists do you like Randy and he said I like Eddie Van Halen. I had never seen Eddie play, so when Randy started playing with his fingers, it was all new to me, but Randy didn't copy Eddie's lexes, he just learned some of his ideas and methods of playing, it's natural to get something from another person. all guitarists do it.

Randy's friend Rudy Saro later said that he came to greatly admire Gary Moore and Eddie Van Halen. Those were his two best guys. Randy himself commented on Eddie Van Halen saying that Eddie is great. I don't want to come close to competing with him. people like that in another interview also said I mean, Eddie Van Halen is fantastic on February 2, 1982 in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, a fan asked Randy Rhodes at a guitar clinic. Fanatic. I have heard many rumors that you are simply copying. Outside of Eddie Van Halen, were you influenced by him? His technique and the audience he plays makes comments to the fans.

Fan. No, were you influenced by him or Randy Rhods? he taught kids how to play them, but he didn't copy Eddie Van Halen's lead notes by note and he didn't use Eddie's licks in his solos, he did his own thing, as Max Norman said, he just picked up some of his ideas and methods to play after Randy died in the plane crash Eddie talked about Randy in an interview here is that part of the interview interviewer what do you think of Randy rhods Eddie? Well he was a guitarist who was honest anyway because I read some interviews he did, he said everything he did he learned from me you know, and he was a good interviewer, he was the first one to come after you and inspire kind of boy worship, Eddie, oh sure, but I don't really do it.

I think he did something that I haven't done. What do you think, interviewer? It's a little different, but I heard a lot of you in it the first time I heard it. I thought he was a copy of you. Eddie, yeah, that's what I did. I mean, it's like anyone else who does the things that I do, obviously it's going to sound a little different, but still, you know, I can tell when someone is copying my technique, but there's nothing wrong with that, you know. , I also learned from other people. interviewer, yes, yes, it's something that people listen to, like and want, Eddie, I'm sure there's nothing wrong with him.

I've copied other people, you know, so the claim that everything he did he learned from me sounds pretty pompous. Randy did his thing. things, but anyway Eddie admits that Randy was good, although they weren't great friends, there was a professional rivalry, they were like Jimmy Pige and Richie Blackmore. Eddie was Jimmy and Randy was Richie. They are both legends and innovators, but Eddie was also like Jimmy Hendricks, he brought everyone on. on fire in 1978