Staircase Lies? Amber Heard VS Johnny Depp: NEW EVIDENCE everyone missed

I'll take you from March 23 to March 23 March 23, 2015. I found his ipad, he was texting this woman, the confrontation, another argument about something or another, he threw the Red Bull can, Johnny, then roll up a can of Red Bull and hit it. debbie in the back she didn't really seem to notice I saw the injured lady throw a can of Red Bull which hit Mr. Depth in the back I remember something was thrown from up there hit me in the face with this plaster Johnny was on me hitting and he was hitting me hard and with phoebe he hits me on the back she hits him landing she was trying to get to me trying to hit me my sister suddenly got between me and

johnny

whitney stood in front of

amber

and she was facing me Amber to stop Amber.

She was about to push my sister down the stairs. Honestly, no, I don't know what she was aiming for. Your back was turned to him and you were not injured during that incident, were you? It was not. oh hello hello hello hello it's my face again swoop swoop swoop swoop swoop swoop swoop swoop swoop swoop swoop swoop ok welcome back uh we continue this series covering Johnny Depp's trial against Amber Hed and today we're going to delve into all the nitty-gritty of the question of the ladder. incident with

johnny

amber

and his sister whitney because this mess is a mess of contradictions that I don't think many people realize.

It's also one of the most critical parts of this trial because it's the only case in which an Amber Sister witness claims to have witnessed firsthand the alleged assault on Johnny Depp, so if you're interested in investigating deep dives, this is the place. to be okay, let's go deeper like your last Tinder date, you know who you are now, of course, if you like this. video, watch my series and consider supporting me on patreon or the tip jar that many of you kindly asked for. I'll have links to both in the description if you have

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depp

, amber listening and his sister whitney , now just for a little personal context, I am personally biased as a survivor, I have survived dv ipv and sa and I don't believe there is a perfect victim or a perfect abuser and although there is overwhelming

evidence

on tape that amber

heard

Johnny being abused like she didn't was a saint, ultimately no one will know exactly what happened. except them, that's why I'm personally waiting to hear all the evidence first just to be fair like a jury would have to be.

I like Pete Davidson and Kanye nightmares, let's dig in, he comes after me, hits me on the back, I hear Amber scream. she hits him and lands one at that moment is when Travis runs up the stairs, okay, let's delve into this

staircase

incident and what I have done is present the different testimonies side by side to show the inconsistencies. within all of their stories and we're also going to take a look at the UK witness statements and the UK trial testimony as well as some other things so let's get into it so I was into what they call ph4, Johnny owns all of them and he was kind enough to let us live there, so this is a diagram I pulled out so you guys can get an idea of ​​what's going on.

I was on ph4, Amber and Johnny were on ph um. I think Isaac was in two and Rocky. and Josh were in one so again this all took place in the Eastern Columbia building which is in downtown Los Angeles and I was actually there so

everyone

knows how deep I am taking this building that all this happened in. it's literally right there, the east columbia building, they will refer to it as ecb, this incident, the tro cell phone incident, many of the accusations happened in that building, right there, james franco, elon musk, the elevator shoots everything right there I know honestly it's such a beautiful building and I see it like all the time it's crazy to think that all these accusations happened right there where I see it all the time yeah okay let's move on so again I was like trapped between where Johnny and Amber stayed and Amber's closet.

So basically you had to go through to get from one point to the other, so what she's saying here is that there were doors that connected all of these rooms, so you could literally start at attic 3 and walk up to attic 4 and towards penthouse 5 on the upper level i think she was staying in east columbia oh at the ECB first of all I just have to say that she starts these stories by saying things that automatically make me feel as a listener that you're telling the truth and I say that's because she says I think she was staying at the BCE, your whole accusation of the story takes place at the BCE, so saying I think she was staying there is a strange way to start the story in Eastern Columbia in the ECB.

Yes, he was staying at the ECB at the time because we were in the dorm together on the night of the 22nd. Now this incident occurred after the incident where Johnny lost part of his finger. I did a deep dive into that incident and analyzed everything. the inconsistencies and their witness statements and documents, if you want to check it, I will link it below. Keep in mind, while this whole story is being alleged, his finger was injured quite significantly, and it was when he passed out that I found him. her ipad now I noticed that she uses the word passed out on her side what we have seen classically they use the word passed out or crossed out every time Johnny is probably asleep they use specific words to try to make the jury think without saying It's so much that Johnny I was taking some kind of substance.

I found his iPad open. I was texting someone with it open. He passed out and I saw what he was sending. Please tell the jury. First of all, I have to intervene here, your honor. I have questions here when she says she passed out and her ipad was there, generally speaking, most people have a car, you know, they sleep or turn off their devices, if they're not using it, it usually takes like a minute to maybe. three minutes I think that's average if she says he's passed out on his ipad and she just looks and sees that he was texting someone like no I have to keep to myself the fact that that might be the case , but this sounds more like a wife who was snooping into her husband's business, so let me dabble in snooping, you know what I mean, uh, he was, he was texting this woman he was dating. had a relationship during and after the beginning of our relationship, so I recognized the name but the date was right after the wedding I saw that he had gone to his house after we got married about landing in Los Angeles I think it was the next day that was to this woman's house that is his sexual relationship with and um, what did you do, what did you do as a result of seeing that on the iPad, did I get scared, man?

Her whole demeanor changes right there, she's like telling and I'm telling this story and I'm looking at the jury and I'm looking and then she asks what happened when you find out I got scared like it was much more direct, it was with the lawyer, there was anger there, I'm inclined to think she probably found some text messages, fair enough you probably do. upset, just to give a little more context because you all know, she's going to dig a little deeper. I reviewed Johnny's testimony at the trial in the United Kingdom. They ask him directly about this woman.

She says Rochelle, I think she was a girlfriend, is the witness right? here's johnny she was a girl he had dated that he was dating before he started seeing miss

heard

regularly yeah so you were seeing rochelle at the same time you were seeing miss heard regularly it seems not and he says one. I might assume that what you're suggesting is a big non-response in the sense that I ended up having to stop seeing her saying that I ended up having to stop seeing Rochelle is an interesting way to correct it or was it pressure from Amber? .

You have to stop seeing this woman or he had to stop her out of reluctance, but he didn't necessarily want to do it, so after the lady listened and I snapped, yeah, I saw Rochelle. Sorry, I couldn't. Every time I listen to Rochelle I can't think of anything but the seinfeld episode Rochelle Rochelle now playing on Paradise 2. I found text messages between Mr. Death and another woman, first of all, okay, I'm sorry, I need to take a break and then I'm going to do it again, I promise, but can we talk about Camille's all-white power suit?

They were all on Miss Vázquez. Okay, she comes hot with the sauce. It's a great move for her to come in with an all-. White night power suit after this, you just have the audacity, the balls, the common sense and I'm personally here for it, but I found text messages between Mr. Depp and another woman, right, that's right, so I you confronted him for cheating on you, that's right, so this. It's shortly after Mr. Deb allegedly sexually assaulted you with a bottle, right, it was two weeks after he assaulted me. Yes, I know exactly where Camille is going with this.

You decided to confront him for cheating on you. Um, I didn't decide. I wanted. Camille does a very good job here, asking questions, getting the answer and moving on, but it stays there, it just stays in the jury's mind and they will probably think as if she was so brutally attacked because of the way she says that. she was in Australia supposedly it is common that an alleged victim can, a couple of weeks later, confront who they say is their abuser and confront them for cheating and yelling at them and yelling at them and I have to say like you know that while I I will always keep to myself the possibility that that is something a victim can do.

I don't want you to know that we will never fully know, but it is not what I would consider typical victim behavior because I think there would be an overriding fear. that they might retaliate and do something horrible to him again. Mr. Duff's finger was freshly injured at this time. He had a cast. The top of his right finger had been cut off two weeks earlier. That's right. And he had a pin in it. finger right, I don't remember when he put the pen, the skin graft, noI'm pretty sure you had several different procedures and they spread over a period of time, so I don't remember what happened with that.

I really don't know if Amber would have been well versed in her medical records leading up to this trial in preparation and she didn't know about that timeline either. It's possible, but I don't know. Now let's jump very quickly to Debbie Lloyd. So, Debbie Lloyd was a witness who was present at this ladder incident and let's see what she has to say regarding Johnny's condition at this time, on March 23rd, he had bandages and a skin graft and pins on his finger. According to this, yes. is right there and that was the video that they played Amber before she took the stand and testified, so she said she didn't know, I mean you were in the courtroom, I'm just saying, I'm just saying it was a very fresh injury when they cut your finger that won't heal for a long time, so my finger was still, it was still a very fresh wound and what kind of cast would you have had at this point, it wasn't a cast per se as it was, it was a bandage, so this is interesting. because Johnny says it wasn't a cast, he was bandaged, but it's like this gray area because we know he got some casts, so we see that this one here looks more like a full hand cast and it has some green dinosaurs on it. him, of which we will hear in a moment Whitney's testimonies and I want you to put a pin in that because this will be a really important detail later when I mention the statements and testimonies of the UK witnesses because We are going to find out that none of They never mentioned a cast.

We'll get to that. I immediately confronted him about it. She's talking about having stumbled upon or eavesdropped on whatever Johnny was talking to Rochelle about. I did not care. at that point, if he killed me, which was probably, oh, that's such a loaded way to prepare a story for the jury and I didn't even care at this point, he had already ripped my heart out. I just went through what is a way of loading a story at the beginning to make it seem like it's going to be so serious by saying that I didn't care at the time if he killed me just a few weeks before.

I see this. Like these these breaths he's taking interrupting his story it's almost like he's gathering thoughts how do I want to piece this together? how do I want to set this up for myself? This reads more like how I would anticipate that an actor is setting up the scene and establishing the emotion that comes in and now I'm going to deliver this part of the monologue and now I'm going to deliver the next part, but let me know in the comments what you guys think incredibly painful Incredibly painful story could be set up here could be the truth but maybe she just feels like people inherently don't believe her so she has to exaggerate, that could be a possibility so what did you do?

I'm yelling at her, so I just yelled, I called, she was calling. him, all these ugly names she was yelling at him, I told her to get out of the house, this is interesting, so she admits to yelling at him, yelling at him, calling him names and all these nasty words. I want to jump to Amber's witness statement in the UK. I heard it here shortly after Johnny's return to Los Angeles. We had a big argument one night because I found messages that showed he was cheating on me. This is what particularly gets me here. She only says in her witness statement.

I confronted him. No, he was screaming and shouting and calling him all these terrible names. Now let's move on to what Johnny says again. There was another confrontation, another argument about something or other, something or other and he does his thing. You know, this classic smile that he does very often, I saw many times where he smiled at times when something was particularly traumatic for him, but let's look at his witness in the UK and his testimony in the UK regarding to whether or not he remembers what this particular discussion about me was about. in penthouse five, which is different, of course, from what Whitney said.

Whitney said they were in penthouse three and four. He says I was in penthouse five with Miss Hed and her sister, so that's completely new. Miss Hed was in an extremely argumentative mood and kept trying to provoke me into having an argument with her, I can't remember the details of this particular argument but Miss Hed always managed to find something to try to argue about, ok let's see what she said at the uk trial on the 23rd you and mrs hed had an argument because she found out you were having an affair with rochelle answer well she was quite jealous of rochelle and several other people so I don't know If he found out I was having an affair I don't remember having an affair so The lawyer says that's what the argument was about.

He says I don't remember the argument being about Rochelle. At some point we were up in attic 3 and we got into a um, how do you describe it, pushing each other. I know I think she's really choosing her words here, she didn't necessarily want to admit that they pushed each other and I just remember being so angry at him for cheating on me and it felt like everything fell apart and I was so hurt anyway, I escape from his grasp at some point and enter my sister's house. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa she jumps here, it's a pretty significant jump right, she talks about how we were doing this pushing each other and now all of a sudden she says I'm out of reach and she throws him away, we we lost a few steps here, at no point did she explain that he was grabbing her, she said she was being pushed so that, a little peculiarly for me, I slipped out of his reach.

I grab it at some point and go into my sister's room, the apartments in the BCE are connecting. Amber and Johnny are apparently having a fight and then at some point we lose a few steps, but she breaks free of his hold and then crosses over here to Penthouse Four where Whitney is, so I stopped by Johnny's office, which is how you get in. to the door that takes you to Whitney and I went in there and woke her up crying screaming, it went from Penthouse 3 to Penthouse 4 where Whitney was sleeping screaming, crying and wakes up her sister whitney, let's jump to see what travis mcgivern is, so travis was a johnny

depp

s security guard at the time and was present at this incident so let's see what his account is.

I remember receiving the text he requested. I met him in the attic. five and asked me to bring his nurse who was working, Travis is saying that Johnny texted him and asked him to come to the penthouse five and also bring nurse Debbie when I was staying at the hotel next door , security had come looking for me saying that they had had an argument and Johnny wanted to go back to the 86. Sorry, the 86 is on the Speedster property, yes, until I went, I even went to the lofts and I remember that that night Amber already was going, she was in the lobby when we walked. okay, so Debbie is saying that Johnny wanted to leave, that he wanted to go to another property that he owns and that is very interesting to me because we have seen in recordings, evidence and other testimony that many times there was a conflict between Johnny and Amber. johnny wanted to leave and amber wouldn't let him leave she had this kind of control that she would insist he stay or insist he argue and then things would get physical and turn into bigger altercations she even on the recording made fun of him from him, it's also interesting that uh Debbie is saying that she actually met Amber in the lobby of the building when we walked in and when she saw me going, she came back to the apartment in the lobby that we stumbled upon.

The young lady heard that she was at the reception talking to Security Amber and Whitney Neither of them testify to having been in the lobby. There's a pretty big discrepancy here. We and I are curious to know if she was really in the lobby. Why would she leave that information behind? Did Johnny potentially go down the hall trying to leave? and then amber followed him there, it's an interesting gap, miss lloyd stayed downstairs with miss heard, i went upstairs to meet mr depp in penthouse five, as he asked me to. Oh, these stories are already confusing, aren't they, but I decided to look for Travis. testimony in the UK trial, so the question refers to Johnny Depp and says that he asked him to bring in nurse Debbie Lloyd.

That is correct and you and Miss Lloyd entered the apartment together. It's right. Travis says no, we didn't, so the lawyer The lawyer reads a statement that Travis had made to him. This would have been in his witness statement when Miss Lloyd and I entered his residence. The lady overheard and Mr. Depp were having a verbal argument about what whole grain, gluten-free, sugar-free, boldness is. happening travis travis travis travis how many got their story together? travis travis is saying right here that Johnny and Amber were in one of the attics and that Travis and nurse Debbie walked through the hallway and met them for the first time in one of the attics. but that is in direct conflict with Travis' recorded statement where he says they arrived and Amber was in the lobby.

Maybe none of this really means much. I think it's interesting. He says yes. I see what he says here and then he. he changes his story we didn't go in together right away we ran into miss listening downstairs miss lloyd stayed with miss listening downstairs in the lobby i went up and met with mr depp like he asked me and he still leaves this kind of hole with amber's statements and whitney then goes into a little more clarification with travis, okay, and the lawyer says that the account you're giving today is very different, isn't it? He says it's different yes the lawyer again when you entered the apartment according to your new account the miss heard and mr depp couldn't have had a verbal argument because the miss heard wasn't even there so travis says who was with Mr.

Depp. We were trying to leave a crucial new addition there, we all entered penthouse five together, nurse lloyd. Mr. Depp misheard and In my case, Whitney was not mentioned and that is where the argument escalated. This is very different from Amber's statement. It's even different than the initial accounts Johnny has given. I don't know how we got to that. I think I heard about P5 again. the apartment next door to that one, so, oh, that was a big butt, just like there's something you know like blocking your mouth or literally, if you like biting your lips, which she does often, yes often, In those situations, especially if it's not something that you generally do in your baseline when you tell the truth, that's often a sign that someone is holding themselves back from saying something and I think that's what's happening here because Amber is saying that he doesn't know what happened or what happened. a little hard to believe because she remembers so many little insignificant details that it's hard for me to believe these big biggest moments in the story that literally take you from point a to point b we know that's what I think it's called pinocchio syndrome pinocchio something true you know how much the nose grows when we lie many times not always but many times if someone is inventing if they are telling a little lie they can touch their face many times it is the nose I don't know how We got into it, I think I heard it on page 5 again , so now she's saying that instead of them being here in attic 3 and then her moving into attic 4 with her sister, she's now suggesting that Johnny was actually in attic 5 and that lines up with what she said Johnny, but it doesn't say how it ended up in penthouse five, the apartment was basically empty, so I used it on top of the bedrooms on the top floor, it's my closet.

It had all these racks for clothes and shoe racks and things like that. At that time I had another level, the mezzanine, which is above, you know, it hung over the rest of the lower floor and I used it as my office. She starts by saying that the apartment, namely penthouse 5, is almost empty, but then she says that she uses it. like his closet and then he says he has all these clothes and shoes and then he says he also has his office, so I'm not sure why it was framed as empty, just, again, I'm not trying to dissect that much of the story, I don't mean to do that, but when I see these things that don't make sense, it makes it harder for me, and as I would imagine a juror, it makes it harder for me, believe me, I'm just confused, so that's it.

It's not how I would define an empty space, but you know, dad, dad, and the bottom floor is of course the living room with just a sparsely decorated cap, some big sofas and a sparsely decorated low table, just some big sofas . I get the feeling that she is inaccurate with the details now back to Whitney so she was sleeping I woke up to Amber in my room saying can you believe she is cheating on me? Your brother is cheating on me. I thought it was quite interesting. whitney doesn't say amber was screaming screaming crying i pulled out whitney's witness statement in the uk tonight inrunning, hits her in the back and then Amber sees that and Amber lands one on Johnny, she makes a move with her right wrist.

Amber lands one on Johnny. She's presumably still in the middle of them, but somehow Johnny grabs Amber with her hand without her cast on and punches her in the face, which I don't. I think some of that could happen with Whitney still around. There's a disconnect here as to where Whitney is now in this situation. I just remember this brief fight we had before we separated from Whitney. My sister suddenly stepped in the way. Johnny and I that's a very strange line to me right there she says we broke up Whitney uh she just threw herself like in the line of fire or whatever, all of a sudden she was trying to get Johnny to stop her.

staircase

I'm sorry this doesn't make sense Whitney said she was already between them and Johnny ran and hit her and that's what led Amber to hit Johnny.

Amber says that she is having some kind of fight with Johnny. ya and whitney gets in the middle of them so I'm trying to get there but those two things don't line up and johnny swings at her and I just see my little sister with her back to the ladder and that's when she says Johnny hit her to her sister, which is not at all Whitney's account and also Whitney's account at this point is that, uh, Travis was also up the stairs now at this point at that moment is when Travis runs up the stairs after that Amber landed one. and amber doesn't mention at all that travis is also on the mezzanine in front of the stairs, but somehow amber says that whitney's back is towards the stairs, but whitney says that johnny is the one closest to the stairs, so that even if Whitney's back was to the stairs if johnny swung and hit whitney, whitney would move towards the amber away from the stairs or if johnny somehow, I don't know, pulled whitney or something, he'd be the one to do it.

I would go down first and Johnny swings at her and I don't even wait I don't even wait for anyone else I don't hesitate I don't wait just in my head I instantly think of Kate Moss and the stairs and I hit him Amber made a big mistake by mentioning Amber to Kate Moss, she opened the door for johnny's past relationships to come in and testify, if kate moss came in and said no, johnny was never physically abusive or anything like that towards me, then that would be very damaging to amber's case and In my entire relationship up to the date with Johnny, I hadn't landed a single punch on him and for the first time I hit him like I actually punched him right in the face, okay so what we're going to do is go back to 2016.

We're talking about Amber. videotaped statement that she's just an idiot, right? The lady heard that in September 2015 you punched Johnny Depp in her face with a closed fist. I hit him, i hit johnny once. johnny was hitting me and he was hitting me hard and repeatedly and I was screaming, security comes in and they don't do anything about it, he, he, he makes this move when jerry judged Yellow's boss or Sean, I don't remember who it was, she doesn't remember the security guard who was one. of the witnesses to this alleged abuse and I all we had was a little bit of separation and my sister runs down the stairs uh we're on a landing between two flights of stairs so that's a completely different account that says that my La Sister runs down the stairs.

Johnny was already on the mezzanine landing with her and was banging hard and repeatedly failing to mention that there is a cast. I think that's a very important part of this story, that it's not just about getting hit. they are hitting you with something very hard, imagine someone is telling a story where they were attacked with someone brandishing a bat, they wouldn't just say oh the person was hitting me, they would say they were hitting me with a bat, it's a very important detail because it escalates the level of violence in that case and then she doesn't say anything about what whitney said where was whitney like i went up the stairs and whitney said I went up the stairs with debbie now amber says that johnny and her were already in the the mezzanine and whitney came down from the other stairs he was about to push my sister down the stairs she was trying to separate us I'm protective of my little sister when he put his hands on her I don't know what I did but I know I jumped between the actions I saw him They could cause a fatal injury to my sister.

She was standing at the top of a flight of stairs and she has never hurt anyone in her life. Sorry, this doesn't make any sense. because in order for Johnny to push Whitney down the stairs, Johnny would have to be on this side of the stairs and Whitney would have to be on this side, but in Whitney's account and in Amber's new account, Whitney is actually here, Johnny's here again, Johnny. being the one at risk of falling down the stairs, he can't push Whitney down the stairs if he's behind her, but I know I jumped between the actions I saw that could lead to a fatal injury to my sister, she was standing at the top down a flight of stairs and she has never hurt anyone in her life and doesn't deserve to be pushed down the stairs.

Amber is very angry. Here you literally see her entire color change from a paler color to a very bright red. She is very defiant. aggressive here and would have done what anyone who has a son or a sister would have done I don't know what part of my body I put between him and her and me and then she says she put her body between Whitney and johnny, you testified that Mr. Depp supposedly He hit you during that incident, right, yes, but you weren't sure if that contact was for you, right, honestly, I don't know, I don't know what he was up to before I turned my back on him.

You hit Mr. Deb because you supposedly thought he was going to throw your sister down the stairs, right, I hit him when, when he hit my sister, you thought he was going to throw your sister down the stairs like he had thrown Kate Moss down the stairs. stairs. right, he took a swing at Whitney and I had heard a rumor, a vague rumor, that a lot of this just doesn't make any sense when you put it all together and then, of course, when you work on the Kingdom witness statements United Kingdom and the United Kingdom. The testimony is a mess, so now I want to return to Whitney's witness statement and testimony in the UK.

Then she says that Johnny was still downstairs with his two security guards, so now she says there are two security guards there. but we've only heard that Travis was there, but now all of a sudden there's another security guard there. I'm not too sure according to Whitney and she says he threw a can of Red Bull at us, meaning her and Amber, and it affected the sobriety nurse. Debbie, but nowhere in this statement does she say that Debbie went up the stairs and I stood with my back to the stairs looking at Amber, but between them now what I find curious is looking at Amber.

I imagine if you think Johnny is the alleged abuser you'd probably have your eyes on him, you'd think you'd probably be in front of the abuser to make sure you know things are under control, then she says that when he got to the top of the stairs, he was pushing me back to get down. For Amber, I remember being scared because I was worried about falling backwards and falling down the stairs, so now in this statement, Whitney says that Johnny didn't come from her and hit her on the back, which would push her forward. She now she says he does.

Pulling her back, even Whitney at her US trial said she was being pulled towards the stairs and Amber said she was afraid he would push her, meaning she would have to be on the other side again. side. Johnny reached out to push me. in the way of lunging at amber then she says that they are pulling her but also pushing that they are two very different directions they are pulling you they are pushing you amber suddenly staggered forward and hit him if whitney is between amber and johnny and the stairs are Here, Amber suddenly staggers forward to hit Johnny, sandwiching Whitney between the two and potentially causing Whitney and Johnny to fall down the stairs and then says here, I didn't exactly see how Amber hit him, but it didn't seem especially hard.

How do you know it's difficult if she didn't see it? She then says that they somehow pushed me out of the way so I wasn't between them, but she was standing right next to them when Johnny grabbed her hair with one hand. and I saw him hit her very hard on the head with his other hand several times and again I didn't mention at all that he was wearing a cast. I was trying to push my way through them to stop Johnny from hitting Amber when Travis stepped in to pull them up. As an aside now, if we go to Whitney's testimony in the UK, which you know, I almost feel like I need to do a dramatic reading here and put on my absolutely terrible English accent, you're in front of your sister, that's right and you can say despite the fact that you didn't see your sister hit him, in fact, it wasn't especially hard, no, I didn't especially see her make contact with him, I didn't have a good view of that, so it's a little strange to testify about the kind of hit if you didn't actually see it and you saw your sister hit Mr.

Depp on the stairs that day right after he hit me yeah then this is where things get really interesting what you leave out and what your sister omitted to put in the declaration. In fact, the most important detail of all is that when Mr. Depp was punching his sister in the face, he had a cast in his hand, a bright green cast. Do you agree that he had a cast on his hand? I remember that yes, I also do not think that it is the most important detail and again that cast can be interpreted as assault with a deadly weapon I think it is a tremendously important detail that they both omitted in their statements are you suggesting that the fact that he had a hard The cast on his hand when he was punching your sister in the face was a minor detail, the most important detail for me was that this is the first time I've seen physical violence, something I knew had been happening for years.

I remember being afraid. I'm going to fall down the stairs. Those are the details that I consider important. Now I have to point out another important discrepancy here in the US judgment. Whitney never says that she was afraid of falling down the stairs or being pushed. going down the stairs, she only mentions that in the UK testimony and this is a huge factor in Amber's US testimony in trying to make the claim that she and Whitney were afraid of falling down the stairs, a huge discrepancy, but this is quite Time has passed, you are no longer afraid for your safety because you are no longer in that situation, so the cast would be a very important detailed question, they essentially pushed you out of the way and then he hit her in the face.

I was still among them, so Whitney maintains in the UK trial that she was still among them. Amber really in that scenario it seems like the only way Whitney could fall down the stairs is if Amber pushes Whitney down the stairs or if Amber is attacking Johnny, that would not only knock Whitney down the stairs but Johnny down the stairs. and now let's take another look at Amber's witness statement. I remember Whitney standing between Johnny and me when she was trying to attack me on the mezzanine, she pushed Whitney away. of the way to be able to communicate with me, which conflicts with Whitney's testimony in the United Kingdom.

Amber is saying he pushed her out of the way again if Johnny came up behind her, if he pushed her out of the way one would assume he pushed her. Whitney forward or pushed Whitney to the side, so Whitney was potentially not exposed to the stairs. Amber then says that I lunged at Johnny to stop him from hurting my sister and hit him to protect her. Johnny grabbed my hair with one hand. and he repeatedly hit me in the head with the other one, his security intervened and he separated us and then she says something really interesting.

I would say this time I fought back. I remember physically connecting with him, even if it wasn't a big blow. It was a point of pride, that's something really interesting, it's not common for a DV survivor to say that I was almost bragging about it, that I got licked again, that's not typical behavior for a survivor who feared for their life and then brag about it now. Let's go to Amber's testimony at the trial in the UK. I hit Johnny that day in defense of my sister. He was about to push her down the stairs. He was about to push her down the stairs.

It means Johnny would have to be on this side of the stairs to push. her this way and the moment before that happened, I remember information I had heard recently, she keeps wanting to put this Kate Moss thing up, which is a mistake, I mean, he pushed an ex-girlfriend, I think it was Kate Moss down the stairs and then the lawyer. catches the kate moss thing because that wasn't mentioned in her witness statement and says she just added that part in amber interrupts i never changed my story the lawyer says he changed his story because she interrupted her that's not true miss laws that You changed your story because you added details about Kate Moss, didn't you?So, Amber, has that always been what it has been?

Amber didn't mention that in her witness statement I will ask this again in any of the documents nor in your statement do you mention the person in your mind was Kate Moss and she had something to do with this so they want to go to the passage of the statement, so I think that here they play the video and in that she never says anything about kate moss and again I want to point out What I think is even more alarming in the trial in the United Kingdom. Amber doesn't mention anything about Johnny having a cast on his hand.

This happened on the landing where she was coming out, you know, trying to, well, trying to get to me, trying to hit me. Me and then Whitney, his sister were there, who Johnny doesn't really go into much detail, it is what it is, I just wanted to point out that the interesting thing now is that Whitney stood in front of Amber and was in front of Amber to stop, Amber and when was between us, amber snuck in, reached the roundabout and stuck me in the cheekbone and Johnny looked stunned and then he laughed at me and then he lunged at me again and before I knew it. uh security came between us and took johnny uh and I went upstairs with my sister and um we closed the door and I could hear all this commotion happening in attic 5.

I could hear him furiously destroying my things. I could hear it um and at some point I saw it the next day tell the jury what you saw the next day um and all these clothes all my clothing racks were knocked over shoes knocked down thrown down the stairs desk everything on my desk was cleaned up it looked like everything he could touch to flip destroy crush you know, clothes racks, these huge heavy clothes racks full of clothes, uh, there was at least one of them, he threw it down the stairs, now on to Whitney Travis, separates them, I turn amber.

In mine I close the doors behind me and lock them. I hear Johnny's voice yelling at you. I hate you. Do you remember witnessing any physical violence on that occasion? I saw Johnny push one of Amber's clothes racks. There was no physical violence directed towards him at any given time. miss herd and her sister left mr death um he went up and reorganized her closet for her this was not just saying that johnny reorganized his closet i feel like the jackets and dresses should swap places travis travis we've seen the pictures that travis threw away probably every clothing wrapper and shoes through one at least one going down the stairs text messages from Whitney photos of the closet damage what she didn't do was take pictures of Amber's face once again we are in another situation where Amber has no documentation about any alleged injury from this incident and of course if you were hit repeatedly and hard with a cast your face would be brutalized it would not be a pleasant situation and plus there was a nurse present who witnessed all of this and you would think well if the nurse was witness someone being repeatedly punched in the face.

Would that nurse's next job be to assess patient Amber and assess the injuries to document and treat as a survivor? I don't want to invalidate another potential survivor. I want to hear your story, tell me if you can and I just can't get there with Amber. You thought it was important to document that damage, but not document. um, it was Kevin's job to clean the houses I took over. just so he could be aware of what he would need to bring, but you didn't take any photos of your sister that day, right, no, I didn't get roasted, no one documents any injuries, what we have documented is a messy closet, he says . good morning sir so um johnny destroyed amber's closet and there's other damage to ph5 you're the lucky person I should talk to about that right all she says is where she feels a little arrogant very indifferent it's like so um there's a mess in the closet and again, this was just a couple of hours after all of this happened so she's very calm and then proceeds to text him pictures and ends up saying just to give you an idea of what I noticed.

Also in none of these testimonies did Amber or Whitney ever be in the UK or ever hear say any of the injuries, she never says my nose broke my face, my black, she never says anything in this incident. Did you see Miss Eavesdropping again that night after Mr. Depp was in her closet? I did, yes, she. She must have heard what was happening and not been very happy, so shortly after she re-entered penthouse five. What happened at that time, then she and her sister came back. We were at the average level. I felt it was time to call Mr.

Depp and he got out of the situation, so I stood between Miss Hurd and Mr. Depp and told Mr. Depp that we were leaving and that I was no longer up to him. At that moment, out of the corner of my eye I saw a fist. and an arm crossed my right shoulder and I heard and I saw a clenched fist, a contact with Mr. Depp on the left side of his face, I don't know what's going on anymore because now Travis is like, wait, let me throw. Another twist in this story that is already out of the way now Travis is saying that he was between him and Amber and that Amber threw a punch and hit Johnny in the face but it was Travis who was between them when that happened and not the one.

Whitney, that was Amber Herd's fifth fist that she misheard and where was Whitney when this happened. I can't say for sure, but my guess or my best guess is behind um Amber. How did Mr. Depp respond when he was punched? The initial expression on his face was kind of surprised, like what just happened, where did that come from? I let a red bull beat him. Can I let them hit him? My job is to ensure safety and well-being. of my clients felt I hadn't done that so mr depp wasn't happy with me naturally he went to the bathroom for a couple of minutes miss lloyd talked to him and they came out and agreed it was time to go now we just jump very quickly to some of Johnny's witness statements in the UK.

The young lady heard in fact she was trying to prevent me from leaving the property and hitting me in another rage, she said. As a result, I called Nurse Lloyd and one of my security guards, Travis, to intervene when they arrived. The lady listened and I were having a verbal argument that lasted 60 to 90 minutes. At some point during this discussion I turned to leave and misheard through a can of Red Bull as it hit me in the back, but in his American testimony we just saw it. He says he doesn't know what was thrown at him Mr.

Mcgibbon was trying to protect me by putting himself between me and miss heard, but miss heard still managed to lunge forward and punch me in the face with his closed fist, he doesn't say anything of course. about reorganizing the closets now let's take a quick look at your testimony at the trial in the UK and you went on phone five with Miss Hear put away your clothes put away your wardrobe and started hitting all the items and smashing things I think it's very easy for her Say I did it, I didn't so he denies having anything to do with the closet reorganization even though Amber, Whitney and Travis also testified that she saw him reorganizing the closet.

There is a higher chance that Johnny is cheating here. Then the lawyer says this must be another aspect of the deception that she destroyed her own clothes to photograph them and keep them so she could accuse you of that when she got divorced over a year later and He says that in my opinion she was building a file wonderful and an insurance policy for when we broke up and then they mentioned that there are text messages from Debbie Lloyd saying "Bad night." They got into it last night and it got violent. to separate them, well he called or they would have hurt each other, we had to physically restrain them both.

Do you remember witnessing any physical violence on that occasion? No physical violence directed at a human at this time there is another potential witness, Jennifer Howe. she was Whitney's former employer, now there was a statement from her that leaked on Twitter claiming that Whitney actually told her a completely different story. I'm not going to go into it too much here because Jennifer could be testifying, so I want to wait and see. her testimony, but here is a brief summary of what she said when Whitney arrived, she was a mess. Whitney told me that she tried to stop her sister Amber from hitting and attacking Johnny on the stairs.

Whitney said as she tried to intervene to stop Amber from going after Johnny. Amber almost pushed Whitney down the stairs. She told me that she was worried that Amber was going to summon Johnny, who was not alive. There's also this letter that Jennifer supposedly wrote to Whitney right after Whitney testified at a trial in the UK. I hope the truth frees you from a life of abuse and being forced to live someone else's life instead of having the freedom to live your own, so if Jennifer Howell testifies it will most likely invalidate everything Whitney testified hello what are you looking at are you looking at your brother everyone say hello to porkchop a couple of things and then first of all I'll share my final thoughts if you want to join us and celebrate his mean side small college the merch of the Freshman collection is linked below, get some insignificant items, kid, and follow me. on Instagram and be sure to tag me in your penny suits and I'll repost you.

Chaos is coming. A couple of Twitter posts from my latest doc where I went in depth and analyzed all the

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and inconsistencies with Amber Hear's testimony about the divorce settlement if she hasn't seen it, is linked below, it's crazy. The first greeting is for the medieval scribe who says that her final thoughts are very true. We, the general public, decide how this trial will affect db victims. It's time to recognize that men. Women can be victimized. I think all victims, including men, when they tell their stories. The second shout out goes to Frasier Stan Club, who says that as survivors of abuse, it can be very difficult to watch court cases like this and not let one's biases do the trick. judgment calls them.

I continue to be amazed and awestruck by your ability to see all of this with a more open mind. It inspires me to do the same and you are inspired to chaos. It is not like this? I could feel it. I could feel it. running through your veins right now but honestly thank you all again for watching and sharing these docs your support blows me away I love you all more than I can say uh if you want to be my next Twitter let me know Be sure to follow me on Twitter at spankyv linked below and retweet this video right here, also hit me up on Instagram linked in the description which is where I post most frequently and respond to a lot of direct messages.

Be sure to check out the link below and take the quiz to find out which supplements are right for you and use the code Swoop to get 50 off your first order and give yourself the pampering you deserve, baby, as we continue to break down the real facts of this case and the evidence and analyzing the inconsistencies. I keep coming back to the same thoughts that trauma and trauma are incredibly nuanced, almost never documented, and the court of public opinion can end up being completely different from how the jury rules, but what about the statements we've heard from We often think that all victims like how we do that when both parties claim to be the victim and we don't accept mutual abuse that often only benefits the abuser?

That's where it gets complicated, right? Should we believe the victims until they contradict themselves or a recording comes out suggesting it? Isn't it that this trial has caused harm to other survivors? These are the challenging questions I hope to continue to delve into with this series and why I want to hear all the evidence, but I firmly believe that it doesn't matter what the outcome is. This trial is the best thing that can come out of this in terms of the general public is that we are talking about these issues, we are talking about dv, we are talking about s.a and my main hope is that we continue to understand that victims can come in any form and identity, no matter what the verdict in this trial.

I hope Johnny and Amber get the help they need, whether it's healing as a victim or learning as an abuser, but as a side note if you are a survivor I want you to remember that you are strong you are resilient and it is not your fault even if you don't feel so share your story if you want when you want your moment is the only thing that matters and if you don't want to share or don't feel like you know how to share, that's okay, it's your story and yours alone to tell it or not to tell it and I'm here to listen to you, but you know what they have, this class said goodbye.