Coffee W/ Cullotta#3Frank Cullotta discusses the hierarchy of the Chicago Outfit in the 60's & 70's

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The first question I'm going to answer is from a young man, his name is Michael, source Joe. Turns out I really know his father. Walt and his uncle Rowe had a question for me and I know he wasn't calling me a liar. I understand where you get your information from. I'm sure you don't get it from his mother because I know his father would. He doesn't talk to his mother about personal things, so he pursues the story like everyone else does. It is common. I have lived his life. I know that life. I know the characters.

I don't want to offend this child. He was just a child when his father died. Anyway, he asked the question about the West Side team. I can answer that question easily. Joe Lombardo always belonged to Jack Cerrone. Joe Lombardo was the Grand Avenue team and then he ran from the east side to the west side, there's not much of an east side so he was all wet. Joe started out as a craps player playing craps betting money on Jews and he won well and Joe, if you told him to do something, he would do it. I think this guy could be referring to Michael, Johnny D Frazzle, there are two different people, Johnny was also rejected, but if Jack told him when something was done and on a heavy level, he wouldn't go to Johnny because Jenny would have to get someone That Joe could do it himself, that's the difference. the characters Joe was far above China in the first height of him they called him a clown, you know why everyone knows it because he liked the clown but he didn't like you to clown with him.

I have known joy since the 50s. I know when he was an entrepreneurial guy, a serious guy who made money and did I like him? I tolerated it let me put it this way now I'm going to try some nuts a lot of people don't know Joey Lombardo and Tony Splotch oh they did about the same thing in the 70's I know Tony was a lot higher than Joe I can guarantee that with my own hands Tony's words to my ears because I challenged Tony when he was in Las Vegas, I said what is it, is the Joe is bigger than you, you are bigger than Joe, Frankie said because I'm in Las Vegas and Joe is in Chicago, he is where all the boys are, he's in charge, I have to take orders, remember, he said, and vice versa, it would be the other way around if his ship in Chicago I would be Joe's boss and the reason why, gentlemen, my men, because They know Tony was with Joey, ayyappa, he was the man and Joey loved Tony and he loved his brother Michael.

There are photos everywhere to show it, so who is it going to be? Pick Lombardo or Tony, he'll pick Tony, so when they made Jack be around the boss because Joe, we're retired, Tony was very upset because he wasn't looking for Jack to be the boss, he, Jack, is the difficult guy, Jack is ours now. I'm telling you, I could tell for sure from Tony's mouth to my ears. Now you want to know who the bosses were. I'm talking to everyone. Now this is what I could tell you. What I know. It's so confusing that most people think that from 1968 to 1970. 72 the boss was Paul Ricca Paul the waiter Ricca they call him a waiter because he waited until he got you that's what Paul nice cheap guy like the son of a but a good guy they retired she retired himself Elco I mean Tony Accardo retired himself now these characters I mentioned their last names these guys are from Al Capone mistake they owe the 42 Street gang quite a bit and they were there they were with Al Capone, so when it was when he died, he died of cancer, I think somewhere at 72 or whatever, but Tony was already in Las Vegas in 1972, don't be confused because sometimes I get confused because don't forget that there are many people involved in my life, so that's when Jack Cerrone became the rumor now that we've got him back. to Milwaukee Phil I know Milwaukee fell yeah he was crazy Tony was nervous around him Tony told me when this guy talks Frankie he complains he says when I heard him he says he's my boss now that Tony started I could tell you tell how tony got to the top tony started hanging out with a guy named st.

Vincent and Sara we call him Saint Saint used to be Joey's personal driver AOPA, personal driver Tony hooked up with Saints Turk Turk was involved James Mirela became Turk I stole a Turk I know Turk I didn't know his wife I know she was doodles but it's not my business to be his friend he's my friend not his wife not Tony's wife hello bye I'll see you later that's how we deal with it if you want to come with any weight to have a

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with meth I'll sit in the car you I never know he knows what these girls will say so now you're understanding the racial history so when Phil dies I think Tony was a relief to get rid of this guy the guy was crazy he was a bad man so they put Tony in Las Vegas . and you know what the functions of it were, I will understand it in a matter of time, but that is basically the tree.

I had tits. Pythagoras. You had Joffe's areola. You had. You had many guys who became men. I don't call him mate. We never. I've referred to him as mates, that's the terminology they use in New York, we used to call him stashes, he's the stache, I mean, top, those are the terms we use, these guys weren't the kind of guys you hung out with. you wanted to play and who you would make fun of there. They are very temperamental people and I had a lot of temper with myself. I didn't like nicknames. You think you could call Tony, Auntie.

You'd be dead if you called him Dan. Do you think you could call Joey? They removed his nails like you saw in the movie. that's funny, he would show you how funny he was, you don't play like that, you talk behind his back to use those terms, that's how it was and if they found out someone was calling you, they made a roach trap. and say, do I look like a clown like in the movie? You know, I'm telling you. Well, I hope this is useful to you now. I'll finish a little. Press that's vongole, that bun, that subscribe button if not.

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