Lucy Letby: Saint Or Sinner? Part 3

Hello everyone, welcome back and thank you for joining me on another deep dive into True Crime. Before we start, can I show you something really quick? Look at this adorable folder. This folder is incredibly cute and you probably can't see it. I don't even know I'm telling you this, but I was just looking at it and appreciating it while fanning myself with it. This binder my husband Adam brought home because our daughter Bella needed a new binder for school. but she's super picky and he knows she's super picky so he brought home six different folders for her to choose from and I have to be honest, before she got home from school that day, I saw this folder there and I thought: throw Ah, that's my folder, now I ripped it off the counter, my folder now because it's incredibly adorable and then I put all my notes that I'm going to work on and then what I'm currently working on, to have like an idea and some organization in this cute mushroom folder and it's like the red glows so I think this is the cutest folder that has ever walked the face of the Earth so I wanted to show it to you and let's not talk about what that was like. randomly and I'm very sorry, but I don't have friends and I wanted to share something that I like with you, but today we resume with the third video, the third

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, if you will talk about the case of Lucy Letby, a nurse from the UK, who has been accused of the murders of seven babies and the attempted murder of 10 more babies between 2015 and 2016, so in approximately one year to 18 months all the babies had been patients at the Countess of Chester Hospital in the northwest of England, since whether at the time of her birth or shortly after her birth and Lucy has pleaded not guilty to all charges, the trial is still ongoing, but at this point we have discussed the details of baby a and baby b, a twin boy and a twin girl, so they were twins to each other. the other's twin who, according to the prosecution, were attacked by Lucy

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baby a the boy did not survive but his sister baby b survived we also talked about the deaths of baby c d and i, as well as the attempted murder of the twin brother baby F a Baby E , as well as the attempted murders of Baby G and baby H, today we are talking about three more babies who are alleged victims of Lucy Letby, we are talking about Baby J and babies L and M who were twin brothers.

We will also hear from a leading doctor at the hospital who will explain how and when he began to suspect that the enthusiastic nurse working in the neonatal de

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ment was up to something perhaps a little nefarious and when he and others expressed their concerns, they were basically told not to. make waves, don't make any waves, which adds some weight to Lucy's claims or her defense's claims that the hospital was negligent in some way and maybe a little responsible for what happened to these babies because even if Lucy was responsible for attacking the babies if the hospital was informed that there was a potential problem with one of their nurses and they pretty much said, "let it go, leave it alone," they get some blood on their hands, they have some things to answer for, but Before we dive into today's video, let's talk to sponsor Magellan TV.

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She gave birth to baby J, a 32-week-old girl, on October 31, 2015. So Baby J was a couple weeks premature, but nothing drastic and at the time of her birth, baby Jay seemed healthy and the medical staff was not concerned. about his condition, but it was later noted that the newborn had produced some brown bile and according to healthline.com, bile can take on a brown appearance when tinged with blood and this could be a sign of a digestive problem or as a blocked bowel, so Baby J was taken by ambulance to Alder Hay hospital as there were concerns about her bowel and at Alder Hey, baby Jay was diagnosed with NEC and underwent emergency surgery to remove a small portion of her bowel and all this happened when he was only one day old.

So it gives you a very internal experience or you see how resilient these little babies really are, even being a newborn, even being a little premature, this little baby just a day old can have this very intense surgery that's confusing. . and scary and probably painful for her and yet you know, get out of it, okay, it's crazy to think about the conditions that the human body can be subjected to, the conditions that the human body can be subjected to and the kinds of things that happen to us. than we can recover from like it's actually crazy to think about and I have another strange and scary story about Alder Hay and if we have enough time at the end of this video, I'll tell you about this in this hospital and how what. were doing, but it involves the unauthorized removal, retention and disposal of human tissue, including children's organs.

I mean, actually, it wasn't just Alder hay, it was a lot of NHS hospitals that were doing it, but during an investigation into Alder hay organs that they had collected over the 10 year period between 1986 and 1996, it was revealed. They were found stored in more than 2,000 vessels and these vessels also contained body parts of around 850 babies. Now, this isn't one of those stories where I would say, "Oh, don't worry." It sounds worse than it is because it's pretty bad, it doesn't sound worse than it actually is when you get into the details, it's worse than it seems at first, so it's pretty bad, so I hope we can touch on that later, yeah no, maybe We'll just do a short 20 or 30 minute video as a follow up, but now we return to Baby J, who had surgery on her intestine when she was only a day old and the purpose of this surgery.

Basically, only the portion of the intestine that was necrotized was removed because remember we talked in the other two videos we did about Lucy Letby and you see this necrotizing colitis thing, it's very common in newborns, premature babies, and you know. but it can also be very dangerous, so if it's not addressed or treated right away it can become very, very dangerous for a baby and when they removed the necrotic portion of the intestine in Baby J, this was a very small area measuring only about a centimeter, but the newborn also had stomas placed and stomas are basically openings in the abdomen that essentially allow the baby to get rid of urine waste and feces and things like that without having to use the intestine, so it gives the intestine gives the baby a break while it heals and simply allows the waste to be redirected away from the baby such as through his stomach.

It's crazy once again thinking about this little baby and like he's almost 40 and I'm. I'm here like no, just let me go. I don't want holes in my stomach if I need to have this crazy surgery and then I have to have these holes like just let me go. I do not want to do this. I am terrified of needles and cuts and that is why I will never have plastic surgery because I can't even imagine it. Oh, needles just scare me to think that this little baby is going through all this and then is still healthy enough after that to be returned. two Countess of Chester Hospital on November 10 is crazy.

Baby Jay was born at the Countess of Chester Hospital. He had added the brown bile that he sent to Alder Hay for this emergency surgery. She returned to Countess on November 10 and was admitted to the neonatal unit. none other than Lucy Let's Be Who that same day sent a message to a friend and coworker to inform her that the hospital was chaos, here, end, quotes, I suppose she meant that the neonatal department was chaos, maybe not the entire neonatal hospital. department itself and mentioned arguing with another coworker and said the staff that was scheduled that day was pissing her off so she's full of complaints five days later on November 15th Lucy messaged a coworker asking how often the procedure was performed. for baby J's broviac line it needs to be done and the colleague responded weekly so again not a lot of similar medical details are given because I don't have access to the entire trial so basically I only have the abstract or summary The newspapers are being printed and sometimes they do it step by step, but they don't go into the details that I really love, so I have to find all the material myself and, from what I could see, the Broviac line. is a relatively rare type of IV that is inserted into the chest and then into a large vein leading to the heart and this allows long-term access to the blood of this baby or this patient and the dressing of the line needs to be changed broviac. weekly or every time he gets wet or dry, so apparently this is what Lucy was asking this colleague now, the next day the doctors notes showed that baby Jay was doing well and was progressing well once he returned to Countess of Chester and then more.

Over the course of four weeks in November, she was doing really well. They moved her from ward one, which is the ICU, the highest level of care, to ward two, the HDU, until finally she was in ward four, which was basically a standard nursery and you know, for the babies that They didn't need that criticism from Care On November 25th, Lucy was back to being miserable and complaining about everything, but I find her specific complaint on this day ironic considering she just contacted a colleague for advice on how to perform a not-so-much medical procedure. before she complained about this, so on November 25 Lucy texted a friend of hers complaining that while she was out that night drinking and dancing salsa with her friends, she had received three missed calls from the hospital and she said that it was because no one working at the hospital at the time knew how to give immunoglobin so they had to call her and Lucy's friend says she sympathizes or empathizes with her and she says that's wrong, they shouldn't be. calling off duty staff to do this, sorry you had to deal with that and that's what I find ironic because Lucy complains about people calling her with questions when she's not working but she just did that to them to another colleaguefrom League 10 days before, when I needed it. to know how often to change baby J's Broviac Line dressing and it seems that even when Lucy is not at work and supposedly doing something fun you know for her, like salsa dancing, hanging out with friends drinking, she is still thinking about the work or is she thinking about how no one has recognized how important she is to the hospital, so she has to remind them that she is so smart and capable and everyone else is so dumb that even when she is not in the hospital they can't cope without her. and they have to call her because if she's not there everything falls apart, it's true, it's strange, it's a strange humble boast, something similar to a little anecdote that we talked about in the last episode or the last part of this, where Lucy let her friend know that she um's mom, I think it was Baby G, she said to Lucy, I'm so glad you're here taking care of my baby again and Lucy said, "I don't know why I'd say maybe she's just happy to have a real nurse." , but you know, that's what he said.

I don't know why he said that, what do you think he meant that I'm amazing, that I'm everyone's favorite nurse, so weird, so strange, I don't know why he said it's like dress a flex like a complaint, you know, like it's a story from his earliest days and I find it so triggering for me and so irritating for me because I know people like that and they're the worst, the worst, the next day, 26 November, a doctor's note in Baby J's chart made at 10 a.m. said Baby J was pink, well perfused, meaning good circulation and no respiratory distress.

His abdomen was smooth and his stoma looked healthy as if there was no infection or inflammation, no problem because that can be a problem. I mean, when you have holes in your stomach that are literally responsible for taking waste out of your body, the risk of infection. It's always a worry, so at that moment Lucy was once again messaging her coworkers and friends talking about the hospital she worked at and the staff around her, who were all idiots and not qualified enough to to even be in their positions or breathe the same air as her, I'm being a little dramatic and hyperbolic, but that's pretty much what she was basically saying without saying it because she doesn't want to be completely right, she doesn't want to be like, oh um, Darlene is a complete Darlene doesn't know how to administer immunoglobin like she should go back to school idiot, you know she doesn't like to come out and talk brazenly because she's too passive aggressive for that, she wants to be subtle enough about it. where the people she talks to are like that feels a little bit, but also maybe she's just worried about the quality of care the patients are getting and that's why she constantly talks about everyone you know, it's a form of gasoline, I think where it's like you.

I don't want people to know that you're talking, but you still want to talk and they're kind of on the fence about whether you're doing it or not, so they can't assume that they're accusing you of doing it. or just stop talking to you because of that because you could be a good person who is, you know, speaking for those who don't have a voice, so that's what Lucy is doing, but before Lucy left her house to go to work That day, she and her coworker exchanged messages and her friend asked Lucy if she had rested well for her night shift and Lucy continued to complain once again that she had been called three times the night before and that the staff should have told her asked someone. more and just before she left for her night shift at the hospital, Lucy sent her friend a message that said "see you at the asylum, end of date and this is a different friend than the one she was texting on the day." the day before, when she initially complained about having been called by three different ones. people at the hospital and asked him a question about immunoglobin and its administration.

This is a different person, so you need to make sure more than one person in your life knows how necessary and completely irreplaceable you are now in the neonatal ward at the Countess of Chester Hospital, according to the prosecution these text messages that were exchanged because Once again, we don't have a complete breakdown of all of her text messages, but these texts made it seem like Lucy was unhappy with the working conditions at the hospital and complained about caring for shorter or needier babies who just needed help with feeding support, you know Baby J, for example, who had been doing very well, so this means that these are not babies who are on the verge of death or babies that doctors are worried about. and telling parents like ah, it's unpredictable, you know, touch or go, we're going to do our best and hope this baby gets better.

She wanted to work with babies in the ICU and the HDU she didn't want to work with. babies in rooms three and four, which were the basic nurseries where the babies were who were fine and basically just needed help with feeding. You know she didn't want to work with them. The prosecution claimed that she looked as if she were taking care of these babies. It wasn't stimulating enough for Lucy, it wasn't challenging enough, she just didn't enjoy it and it was as if beneath her was what she made it out to be in these texts, according to the prosecution.

I haven't seen an actual record or transcript. From these text messages by November 27, baby Jay was doing very well and her mother was with her a lot in the hospital even though the mother had already been discharged and, you know, sent back home, but Baby Jay's mother wanted to be there to practice caring for her baby during the day and also to establish a nighttime routine in preparation for returning home because they were planning on hospitals planning to discharge Baby J soon, Keep in mind that Baby J was doing very well even after having emergency bowel surgery when it was a day they planned to discharge her and send her home any day and Baby Jay's mother had been in the hospital overnight on November 25-26 and then went home on the morning of November 26 planning to return as usual at 8 a.m. on November 27-26 for the night shift Lucy Letby was the nurse assigned to two babies in room three, while baby Jay was in room four with another baby and a different assigned nurse Nicole Dennison now on the drop off schedule between day and night nurses' baby, Jay, was with Melanie.

I believe her name was Melanie Robinson for the day shift and then it was given to Nicole Dennison for the night shift and in the notes that were made between the nurses during that transfer period, it was noted that Baby J was Well, and now she did not appear to be in pain or discomfort, although Lucy was not in the same room as Baby J nor was she Baby J's assigned nurse. She co-signed for the baby's medication at 12:02 a.m. m., since Nurse Denison was only a Band 4 nurse and she is not qualified to administer IV medications, so this is also something that comes up frequently.

Lucy is a Band Six nurse so she is very qualified and can do pretty much anything that is needed but four banned nurses and five nurses are not as qualified and In this case Nicole Dennison was not qualified or trained I guess, to administer intravenous medications so he needed Lucy's help and Lucy co-signed the record and I think this is why we often see Lucy taking advantage of another nurse's patient now. What does that mean? Okay, so that means that Lucy is innocent and it turns out that she's in the frame giving IV drugs right before this kid collapses and it's just because she's doing her job and she's doing the right thing and helping these kids? less qualified nurses to administer IV medications or does it mean that Lucy is thinking well, technically this is not my patient and since this nurse is a foreign band and needs my co-signature and my help anyway, I can do that, I can interfere with this .

The baby's IV is this baby's medication and if it makes the baby sick, then I'm not so good the assigned nurse. Who will see me again? Who will like it? Return this to me now based on the pass data. Lucy left and re-entered the neonatal unit. she several times she that night she came in at 1:57 a.m., 3:47 a.m., 4:29 a.m. and at 4:40 a.m., so nurse Nicole Dennison made notes stating that baby J around 4:40 a.m., just as Lucy Leppy entered that room, baby J turned pale and had mottled skin Nicole Dennison came out out of the room for a few minutes and when he returned there was another nurse in baby J's cut helping the baby breathe and around 5 a.m.

Baby Jay suffered another desaturation, meaning the oxygen in his blood drops and the baby had to be moved. to the high dependency unit in room 2, at which point they called the registrar on duty, but by the time they got to Baby Jay's cat, the baby was already improving, although it seemed like he was still working hard to breathe and get oxygen to his lungs. his blood, so Baby Jay's mother had planned to return to the hospital at 8 a.m. m. She remembers that she went home to get some rest, but instead she received an urgent call around 7 to 10 a.m. m. informing him that her little daughter had suddenly fainted and that she needed to get to the hospital as soon as possible.

Please note that before he was a completely healthy baby. As if she had undergone surgery. He had some problems with his intestines, you know, but these are respiratory problems that he has now completely healthy in his lungs and in. The blood and all its levels were completely fine before this time, which was around 4:40 in the morning, so Baby Jay's mother and father rushed to the Countess of Chester Hospital, where they found the medical staff working hard to resuscitate their baby, who was found limp. pale in color and his cut is unresponsive and when they say lazy they say it a lot like it's a legitimate medical term and again, I don't know if it's in the UK, it feels like I don't know. strange to say but weak like um weak you know he doesn't respond almost like unconscious as if there were no bones in his body.

I'm doing this like I'm Gumby or one of those out-of-cell things. phone store, you know the guys who blow when there's a promotion, but that's what I see as flabby according to Dr. John Gibbs. Baby Jay's alarm had gone off at 6:56 a.m. and he remembers that this is the alarm connected to the monitor that measures the baby's vitality. Signs and at that moment two nurses Mary Griffith and Lucy Letby responded, at which time they found the baby very pale and very rigid, so at that moment they called the parents to inform them of the precarious condition of their son.

We know that they received the call around 7 at 10 a. m. They rushed to the hospital, but before they got there, baby J collapsed again at 7:24 a.m. m., at which time the medical staff resuscitated her and started administering medications and that was when the baby's parents entered the neonatal ward, so around 6 a.m. m., this time. the nurses find that the baby is stiff and then when the parents come in about an hour and a half later, the baby is limp, so it is a progression of a condition. Dr. Gibbs told the parents that he had no idea what had caused Baby J to collapse and said that.

There was no infection and, surprisingly, even though she was in bad shape, she recovered very quickly. Baby Jay's mother was completely shocked, as were the doctors, who were completely confused about why this healthy baby she had been carrying. Great and she was about to be sent home, she had just collapsed and had a drop in her health and condition, so Baby Jay's mother said she was extremely well, she was coming home, we were preparing for her to come back home, end of date later, John. Gibbs would tell the court that he had missed the source of Baby J's collapse.

He said that she had been doing very well in the weeks leading up to November 27 and that the two desaturations (the low level of oxygen in the blood) she had experienced around 5 a.m. They were alarmingly low. Speaking of the baby's collapse just before 7 a.m., Dr. Gibbs said the baby's heart rate slowed and his limbs were rigidly extended with both hands clenched. Remember that nurses Lucy Letby and the other nurse said they found the baby stiff, so Dr. Gibbs basically enforces this: he said this baby was having a seizure and the seizure lasted about 10 minutes, which Dr.

Gibbs believed it was a reasonably long seizure, especially for such a small baby and especially since there was no indication of what had caused it at 7 24. A.M., when baby Jay collapsed again, it was a similar episode and the Dr. Gibbs said this episode was much shorter. She showed the stiffness of all her limbs and clenched her hands and in the secondepisode his eyes drifted to the left and stopped after three. or four minutes end of the appointment, but this stood out because Baby J had never had a seizure before and never had one again. Another doctor, Stephen Breerie, also said he couldn't understand the reason for the seizures, but knew the most likely cause would be hypoxia, which basically means low levels of oxygen in your body, specifically your tissues, and this can cause symptoms like confusion, restlessness, trouble breathing, bluish skin, but Dr.

Briery was curious and said, "Appointment there," the question remains as to why baby Jay was hypoxic when two or three weeks earlier he had been breathing normally air and there were no signs of infection. In fact, we stopped the antibiotics 36 hours after starting them because there was no evidence of infection in the blood work. End quote Dr. Dewey Evans stated that he could not identify any natural cause for this. have happened to Baby J, but it was his opinion that Baby J had been deprived of oxygen in some way. Now here's something interesting because I looked up the reason why someone could suffer from hypoxia and there are some reasons why it was kind of thrown out in court like was this baby suffocated?

Do you know that the baby had his face covered or do you know that someone blocked his ability to get air? But it is important to know that both air and blood flow are important to have enough oxygen in the blood, hence lung disease. and heart disease increases the risk of becoming hypoxic, it's not just like breathing you know, it's also hugely about the blood, the blood, do you know what can cause the level of hypoxia that baby J and other babies like her were experiencing venous air embolisms? And again, based on everything I could find on this topic, air embolisms in newborns are extremely rare to the point that data on their incidence isn't even really available, only a few cases have been documented in english.language only a handful of cases you know if you ask me that is a good thing because it means that it is not very easy to do it accidentally this is not something because it can be very bad for you especially in a baby if that happens like this can cause all kinds of problems, brain damage, as we have seen in some cases with the deaths of these babies, as we have seen in some cases with these babies, you just know the trauma in general when you are when you are so small and you don't have the ability to deal with that or understand it.

I'm glad it can't happen so easily accidentally or else there would be a lot more incidents recorded and I guess it also means that not many people do it on purpose so that's great but it also means it's more than likely that if this happened to these babies, in this case count as a Chester Hospital, if it really happened to them. they have air embolisms, most likely they were done on purpose, someone intentionally made sure that these babies had air in their system or they shouldn't have had it, so we have Lucy Letby entering the neonatal ward after her rest , entering baby J's room after his rest at 3:47 a.m. and within an hour baby J collapsed for the first time, not too suspicious, could have been fine but then we have Lucy Co signing up again for baby J's medication which was a 10 glucose infusion at 7: 20 a. m. and four minutes later, baby J is having another seizure and during the trial the only thing the experts could think of was an airflow obstruction, you know, possibly due to asphyxiation, but maybe an air embolism that really wasn't you know, they can't say it, like the doctors know hypothetically what causes these seizures, but they don't I don't know what the cause was, if that makes sense or at least they can't, you know how to solidly prove it, so after abj's collapse, Lucy He let B get off work around 8:55 a.m. m. and she sent a message to her co-worker and friend Jennifer Jones. key just before 10 30 a.m. saying quote wow he went manic left at 9 15 but others are still there final quote it's like the strange subtle lie to me right It's the strange subtle lie the swipe card records have Lucy leaving the hospital at 8 55 But she said she left at 9 15.

Why I don't know because it sounds better. I guess an extra 20 minutes is the difference between zero and hero. I don't know why maybe she sat in her car in the parking lot looking longingly at the hospital and wondering if anyone missed her or needed her before she left, I don't know, but her friend Jennifer Jones Key, she responded that Things were only going to get worse because you know they were going to get worse. She was still understaffed and people were going to keep calling in sick later. Lucy, who simply can't keep up with what's going on at the hospital, messaged another coworker and asked: Is there still crazy going on in the unit? and they said, Yeah, you know, we only have five nurses right now and I find that interesting because I remember working in a typical job and maybe it's different with healthcare workers.

You guys will have to let me know, but when I leave my job I won't call you. someone to see what's going on there, no, not at all, um, I did my part while I was there and that's all I can do and I need to have a life for myself and I need to get away from this and unplug and not No, what if she complains about people calling her and asking her questions, but she always texts the people on duty and asks them what's going on, so she doesn't want to answer calls where she could help a patient, like in actually help a patient, like you have people, even if the staff is not qualified and even if they don't know how to do it right, she was saying they don't know how to do it, you tell them and explain to them how you help patients, which it's what you say you care about, so you don't have time for those calls and you complain about those calls, but you constantly, randomly, every day text people who are at work when you're not at work. work and you keep thinking about what's happening lack of staff it's still a madhouse there's what she needed it's just that it's obvious what her motives are in my opinion it's not that she cares about the patients she says she cares that the patients and the personally everyone recognizes her as the angel and the

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that she is and if she's not there, they don't feel comfortable and if she's not there, no one else rated the US, that's really her reason, it's about getting stronger for some Reason, I don't know, but Lucy was back in the hospital on the night shift of November 27-28 and by the afternoon of the 28th Baby Jay's Health was back up and running and was returning to full feeding.

Nurse Mary Griffiths messaged Lucy that she had left work at 9:45am. m. and that she hoped that Lucy would have a better shift that night Lucy responded by telling Mary that she was busy, that there were still only five nurses, but baby J had been quiet, nothing was out of the ordinary at 506 AM. m. on the 28th. Lucy made notes that baby Jay had superficial problems. was breathing sometimes, but she had been holding her mother and father and the parents seemed very happy that their baby was recovering, which means that the parents were practically there the whole time watching, which makes sense because their baby It just collapsed.

If she had known that seizures are very scary, then they would definitely want to be there as much as possible for the prosecution. Nick Johnson KC said it is notable that on many occasions children who have suffered unexpected, spectacular and life-threatening collapses. they were removed from Lucy Letby's orbit, they had exceptional recoveries end of quote so you're basically saying that when Lucy is the only one there and no one is watching her, these babies get sick, but when there are people around who make sure Lucy Never be alone with these babies or do no more. with these babies what she needs to do miraculously the babies become healthier and their health improves so we will come back to Baby J in later videos because this was one of the babies that Lucy's defense team really got into. focused on trying. to show that this had more to do with the hospital's negligence than what Lucy did and I admit that there are some babies in this case among all the charges that I don't feel sorry for at least what I've gotten in what I've seen what I've read about this essay in this case.

I don't think they have that much evidence or correlation between Lucy and the baby's meltdowns. I think it turns out that this is the same pattern, so even though we don't have much to prove that she did this, we believe that she did this because we have enough to prove that she did this and they are very similar, you know, and the timing was the right one and it turned out that she was the one to be there and she is a co-signer on the medications. Baby J is a baby and there are a couple of them in this case that I'm okay, I can see how there would be enough there for the defense to say, well, she doesn't hurt Baby J, but really everything the prosecution All you have to do is get the jury to find Lucy guilty of one of these murders, just one of these murders, and she'll still probably be gone for life for the rest of her. life maybe you know 20 25 years at least I think someone was telling me that life in the UK isn't really life it's like 25 years but that's what she'll get which would probably have been the most she would have got anyway, so i.

I understand that we want justice for all these babies and we want them all to have their day in court, but all they have to do is for her to be found guilty in one of these cases and the next two are definitely two babies, baby L. and babies and twin brothers I think there is a lot of evidence that Lucy was involved in what happened to them so, baby L and baby M, they were twin brothers born on April 8, 2016 via cesarean section at birth, they weighed only three pounds each one, but they looked good, they looked healthy, and honestly the only concern about them was their low birth weight, which wasn't even that low for a premature baby.

In this case, we have had other babies who weighed much less. Now both baby L and baby M cried. Birth may not seem like a good thing, but it is actually a sign of health, a sign of healthy lungs, which is very important because, again, in premature babies the lungs are sometimes not fully developed and this can be a big concern and I read this. Interesting and fun fact from a 2005 study that claimed that the non-vocal elements of crying, e.g. inhalation and exhalation patterns, grimacing, frowning, etc., those things develop in the womb, it's crazy because this study revealed that at 20 weeks of gestation a baby has all the motor power. scales the coordination needed for this non-vocal part of crying, so that when babies are released into the world at birth and are exposed to a completely different environment and you know this new cold air because they have been so warm and cozy and cuddly inside. their mom, but now they're out in the world and there are metal things grabbing them and weird people in masks and head coverings taking them out and it's very cold, this usually makes them cry right away and that also helps expel the amniotic fluid and mucus from their lungs, which, you know, is also helpful, so in a healthy baby you want to hear loud, loud crying.

Now both twins also scored 10 out of 10 on their Apgar tests 10 minutes after birth, which is normally when Apgar tests are done. administered and this is actually quite significant because Lucy Letby's defense team would say that she was not responsible for making any of these babies sick, they said listen as if these babies were premature, they were born with health complications and the Countess of Chester were not. equipped or qualified to handle the unique and elevated needs of these premature babies and their health problems, but these two baby boys, although premature, were very healthy at birth. 10 out of 10 on their Apgar test showed that they were well above average Apgar health.

The test is a way for doctors to evaluate a newborn's health, including the baby's breathing effort, heart rate, muscle tone, reflexes, skin color, and average rates of healthy newborns around eight or nine, usually, but these children scored a perfect 10, according to the prosecution in this trial. alleges that Lucy

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attacked both Baby Al and Baby M they say she poisoned Baby Al with insulin and injected air into baby M's bloodstream these babies were born on April 8th and whoever attacked them wasted no time because ultimately afternoon time on April 9. Both children's health had started to deteriorate around the same time, so let's start with baby L.

Baby L was admitted to the neonatal unit at 10.30am. m. on April 8, shortly after his birth. Lucy Letby was working on theday shift and her. She had started her shift at around 7.30 that morning, the prosecution claims that by this time in April 2016 Lucy had been switched to days instead of nights because doctors and consultants had begun to notice a pattern in the collapse. of these babies and this pattern showed a connection. between Lucy and the babies who had become suddenly ill during the night, so it was Lucy Letby who took observations for baby L just before 11am. m. on April 8th and at that time she noticed that she had low blood sugar, so the baby was treated with a 10 dextrose infuse along with some expressed breast milk from her mother for anyone who doesn't know that the Blood glucose is a sugar that moves through the bloodstream and provides energy to all of a baby's cells.

You know that it is the main source of fuel for the body. and for the brain and is one of the most important sources of energy for a baby, so if a baby has low glucose or blood sugar and this condition lasts for a long period, even hours, they may be at risk long-term. developmental or learning problems, and I'm not just telling you this because I'm going to get sidetracked by one of my fun facts, this is important: Hypoglycemia occurs when the blood sugar level is too low and hyperglycemia occurs when the blood sugar level is too low. blood sugar is too high when baby Lucy Letby measured Al's blood sugar at 10:50 a.m. m. on April 8 and was 1.9 and newborn babies should be treated for low blood sugar or hypoglycemia when a single blood glucose test is less than 2.6 in the first 70 two hours of life after that.

The first 72 hours or three days, doctors and nurses would like to see the baby have a blood sugar level of 3.3 or higher, but low blood sugar at birth is quite common and is treats easily. What would you give to a baby? To treat low blood sugar well, first of all, you'll want to make sure they're getting as much breast milk or formula as possible and I would also add to that oral or intravenous glucose, in this case the Countess of Chester used dextrose, which is fine because it is chemically identical to glucose. Which you definitely wouldn't want to give to a baby who has hypoglycemia or low blood sugar.

At the top of that list, number one would be insulin. Insulin is the last thing you would want to give to someone who has hypoglycemia, you may want to give insulin to someone who had hyperglycemia, their blood sugar is too high, but insulin is an essential hormone that our body produces and that It helps us convert food into energy and also lowers blood sugar levels, as I said, it occurs naturally in the body, but if your body does not produce enough insulin for any reason, you can use synthetic or human-made insulin, but Since insulin lowers blood sugar once again, it is the last thing you would want to give to a newborn who is struggling with low blood sugar.

It's crazy that you didn't want to do that, and yet it's crazy that this baby ended up having a lot of insulin in his system, so the dextrose, you know. Basically, the sugar that Lucy had given baby L seemed to have been working at first because by noon her blood sugar had risen to 2.5, which is pretty good for less than 24 hours after birth, especially if she started with low blood and blood sugar. Sugar levels continued to improve, rising to 5.8 at 4 p.m. m., but strangely, just two hours later, baby L's blood sugar level dropped again to 3.3, which was still not alarmingly low, so nothing really changed and the course of his treatment continued, We basically just gave him breast milk. he, dextrose, right, it was dextrose they used, just trying to keep the sugars coming in now Lucy was in the hospital at the time, but she was busy texting her friends and family, she just moved into a new house that It was closer to the hospital, of course than her.

She would also be as close to the hospital as possible if she could, she would probably live in the hospital like Kelly from Gray's Anatomy did for the first few seasons she was on the show, but yeah, she would probably live in the hospital, but she could. it sounded like before she was living in a house like Dr. Lucy Letby was living in Cali from Gray's Anatomy Lucy ladby was living in a house like Dr. where a group of doctors and nurses lived, but then she got her own place closest to the hospital and you I know she was texting her friend and her coworker at 6:15 p.m. m., the coworker asked Lucy, do you know what you think of the new place? and Lucy replied: unpacking things everywhere, can do an extra shift this weekend.

End date. Lucy also texted him. The mother said that you already know almost the same thing, that she thought she was going to do an extra shift the next day, which was Saturday, April 9. Another friend, her name was Sophie, messaged Lucy asking how the house was and Lucy responded saying: Hello. It feels a little strange to have a whole house but it's nice thanks even though things are everywhere they moved in properly on Tuesday and he was at work on Wednesday, Thursday and today and then he put a monkey emoji after this message, I don't see evil monkey emoji, you know? what are hands over eyes um which is which is not an emoji to use but let's examine this quickly because Lucy makes it look like she works so much that she works too hard to even unpack her things after moving into a new house but also I know she texted her mom that she was going to pick up an extra shift the next day, so if she was working hard it seemed like it was by her own design, like this was what she wanted and people with those who worked. said yeah Lucy is always doing shifts man she's always the first one people call because they know she always will so Lucy's friend Sophie responded to this quote saying it will feel more homey once you've sorted everything out.

I quote and then Sophie asked how work was going. Sophie should know better than to ask Lucy Letby that question, but Lucy replied that the cyto unit is busy, no one in particular is well, just the volume and some sick people. I quote no one in particular in good. Lucy doesn't sound so disappointed at 10 pm that night baby Elle's blood sugar level had dropped to 2.2 but after treatment it rose back up to 3.6 when the midnight reading nurse Tracy Jones, who worked the shift night of April 8 to 9, he said that he had noticed Cinnamon, I hope I said it correctly, but it is Cinnamon that he remembers as an intravenous line and with babies I think they put it like in the navel, like in the cord region umbilical, but this nurse noticed that the ivy had been removed from the baby at some point so she reinserted it now, this may have explained why the baby's blood sugar dropped because he may not have been receiving dextrose and why it didn't come back up by the time this IV was readjusted and reinserted on April 9, which was the shift Lucy took, she was assigned to two babies and Nurse Mary Griffith was assigned to Baby L and Baby M in The same room.

Baby L's blood sugar reading was prefeeding before feeding, which was at 10. The morning was 1.9 and the hospital notes showed that Mary Griffith commented that the baby's intravenous dextrose infusion had been increased. I think they increased it from 10 to 15 at 10 34 am. m. Lucy texted a friend of hers, Alyssa Simpson, not Ashley Simpson, which is what she always thought. I read her name, but apparently Alyssa Simpson was spending the day at the Grand National and the Grand National is a big horse race that takes place annually in April in Liverpool, England, it is also broadcast live on television and is considered the most viewed horse race. on the planet, so it's a big deal, especially in that area and people would really get excited, bet money on the horses, etc., so it looked like Alyssa was going to spend the day there and Lucy wished Alyssa's friend luck. she.

She said good luck choosing the horses and she hoped Alyssa's feet didn't hurt too much, probably from her standing all day at 11 a.m. m. Elle's blood sugar was 1.6 so it was still going down at noon before the feeding it was still 1.6 so Lucy Letby around noon co-signed for a dextrose infusion bag for the baby so a tpn bag remember we talked about these bags before they are custom made you know they are made specifically for the baby's needs they have to be ordered at the pharmacy and then they are delivered to the neonatal ward and then the Nurses will connect the bag to the IV that is already inserted into the baby, so now this baby who has been fighting low blood sugar has this dextrose infusion bag and what you would normally want to see is like a increase. in the blood sugar level when you're putting sugar into the baby's system, but that didn't happen well and then about 20 minutes later, about 12 30 baby, Elle's assigned nurse, Mary Griffiths, took her rest now from 11 12 a.m. m. at 12 33 p. m.

Lucy was actively communicating with a few different people through messages. She sent her friend Alyssa another message that said date. I hope you have a great time. I'm at work making an additional final appointment. How much do we hate? How much do we hate that? How much do we hate? I hate that friend or family member like Lucy Letby when you can finally take a day off and do something different and exciting and you know you like to have fun and you let your friend know this and expect them to do it. like happy for you, you know, genuinely happy for you and they act like they're having a great time, you know, I was really excited for you, but then they say something passive aggressive like, I hope you have a lot of fun while I'm at it. stuck in this endless hellscape loop of being at work picking up extra ships and never having diapers having a fabulous girlfriend, like how much we hate people like Lucy because Lucy has to let people know how hard she has to work.

Let people know that she sacrifices her personal happiness in the service and care of others. She could be at the Grand National that day, but instead she chooses to dedicate her time to her patients who need her because everyone else who works there is also a complete Lucy. she messaged her mother Susan and Lucy asked her mother Hi you're dad do you know her father John her parents names are John and Susan just so you know but Lucy asked Susan her mother , if her father John was betting on horses for the Grand National and she told him.

My mother likes it, if she was, could you ask her to put a bat on a gray horse for me? I don't know, apparently she likes gray horses, so Lucy's dad came back and named her after three different horses and then those were gray. I guess and then he placed a two pound bat each side for his daughter on a gray horse named Rule the World, he said it was because the horse shared a name with a popular song, now Lucy continued chatting with her friends, she is even involved in a Group chat with some friends and colleagues at the same time and I guess they are scheduling a time to come to her new house and have a party and she offered to let a couple of them stay at her house and she said listen.

Anyone can sleep in mine. Sorry, I don't have beds or anything yet and there's nothing unpacked, but you guys can still stay there that night of the party if you wanted. She said: Sorry guys angry about busy days at work. but I have Magnum Prosecco and vodka whoop no disco ball, but I'm sure we can handle it end of date now that I think about it. I don't know if whoop vodka is a type of vodka or if he meant whoop vodka, you know? Dry Magnum and Vodka, I don't know, I should have looked that up, but I was too busy looking up all these crazy medical terms.

At 2 p.m. m., baby Elle's blood sugar level had dropped again to 2.0 and an hour later had dropped even further to 1.5. Lucy stopped co-signing once again for a dextrose infusion bag that was given to Baby Al at 3:35 p.m. m., but because her blood sugar was very low and there was no reason for it to be so low and the normal procedures were not working. On and on, baby L's nurse took a blood sample at that time and sent it to the Royal Liverpool hospital for analysis. It seems that this hospital is like a university hospital and they will do these tests if necessary. and I'm very glad and I think it was Mary Griffiths, the nurse, even though she was in a band Six, a nurse like Lucy, all qualified and special, she had enough common sense in her head to be like that, it's strange, let me see if I can. find a reason because, once again, this is not normal, okay,Normally a baby has low blood sugar, you give him glucose which adds sugar, whatever the formula, breast milk and the baby's blood sugar improves, he doesn't like to go up and down and up and down and up and down like someone was interfering with that so I'm really glad this nurse did that because when the results would come back later they would show very high levels of insulin in baby Elle's blood and not only that . low C-peptide levels, so this is a very telling combination of high insulin levels and low C-peptide levels, the insulin level in this baby's blood was recorded as 10.99, the C-peptide level was 264 , but the C-peptide level should be 5 to 10 times the insulin level, so it is higher than the insulin level, much higher than the insulin level, if I read all this medical material correctly, that means that something is very wrong here now.

The c peptide is a signal. that your body is producing insulin, so a low C-peptide level indicates that your pancreas is producing little or no insulin. This baby had a very low C-peptide level and the C-peptide test is usually done specifically so we can tell. the difference between the insulin produced by his body and the synthetic insulin that is injected into the body, so these results clearly show that baby Al was not producing insulin according to the C-peptide levels, but the insulin levels in his body were very high, incredibly high, which means they were giving him insulin without a doubt non-objectively or objectively over subjectively.

I don't know either way, there's no doubt that that's what was happening here now while baby Elle's nurse was taking this blood sample from baby L, her twin brother. Baby M suddenly collapsed in her court and since the baby elf nurse was busy taking the blood sample and tending to Baby L and Baby M was also the baby assigned to that same nurse, obviously someone has to step in and help, so which Lucy hurriedly left. Baby M to save the day and began performing rescue breaths. More medical personnel responded and began CPR. Now baby M had stopped breathing.

The oxygen levels in her blood had dropped. His heart rate had dropped. She basically she was in cardiac arrest. She was having a heart attack and was given six doses. Doses of adrenaline were required before she stabilized. This took about 30 minutes. Now, at this moment, the nurses and doctors involved in baby M's emergency resuscitation were scribbling down a list of the emergency medications they had administered to the baby. The dose is like the time she had ordered. drugs, things like that, and later in court, nurse Mary Griffiths testified that this paper towel would have been located in the emergency cart or the resuscitation cart, as they call it in the United Kingdom, and this paper towel with all this list of medications and stuff. she was a guide to everyone so they knew or had a record of what medications they had been given what dosage when things like that Mary said she even recognized her own handwriting from two adrenaline entries on the paper towel and Lucy who was also involved.

When trying to save Baby M, it seemed like she had written on that paper towel too, but then there was that list of medications, dates, times and names that was found in a Morrison's shopping bag under Lucy Lutby's bed. along with a blood gas record. for Baby M, now remember, I think we talked about this briefly in one of the last two episodes about blood gas tests that measured oxygen and carbon dioxide levels in the blood, as well as the pH balance of the blood , so you know that Lucy had these things like in a shopping bag under her bed for some strange reason.

By the way, this was years later, so you can't just be like oh, maybe he just threw it in that shopping bag because some people are trying to defend it or not defend it, but you're like oh, isn't it weird to accidentally bring home like a patience record or bring it home as a part of it if it's just stuffed in your pocket or something. I completely get it and I completely see how it would be normal to do it, but what? What we have here is Lucy Letby doing this more than once and not throwing this stuff away because you would assume that if you accidentally brought home a patient's chart and found it stuffed in your pocket while you were doing the laundry, you would say, oh, I'm supposed to. that I shouldn't have this, let me just crumple it, tear it, shred it and throw it away or bring it back to the hospital where it belongs, you know, because maybe they need this stuff for their records, but that's not what he did, two years later, In 2018, when Lucy was arrested, the police found this under her bed in a shopping bag, so she kept it for a couple of years.

That's strange isn't it, I don't think it's quite normal. I can't say that many nurses would say yes. I just have a keepsake box full of similar patient records that I keep for myself now. Nurse Mary Griffiths admitted that she had never taken any of these types of records at home with her patients' records and could not explain why Lucy would have done that and why she would have kept them for so long and when Lucy was asked why he had the records, he claimed you know they were They're not souvenirs, he said they weren't souvenirs, although in a way that's what a trophy looks like.

Instead, she said she had brought them home by accident, but again, why keep them for two years if you've taken them? She brought them home by accident and it was also discovered that she had written in detail about baby M's collapse in her diary. So, would you like to take the records home so you have something to refer to and make sure you were accurate in your explanation? This baby is like a life-threatening heart attack in her daily life. I don't know, it's just weird now, let's go back to Baby L's brother. Baby M's brother. Even though Baby L's dextrose increased from 10 to 12.5 percent, his blood sugar reading at 5 p. m.

It was still very low. only at 1.7 at 5 28 p.m. Lucy's mother sent her a message telling Lucy that her horse ruled the world had won, you're a winner, yeah, and at 601 p.m. Lucy texted a friend back saying a date haha, why hadn't the friend asked something like she's coming? and maybe helping her unpack things like that and then Lucy said work has been shit but I just gained 135 pounds in the Grand National. End of the date in the group chat that Lucy was speaking in during this time. Lucy responded to many of her friends who suggested having an unpacking party by saying: Quote the unpacking party sounds good to me with the flavored vodka just winning the Grand National finale of the date at 8pm. m.

Baby L's blood sugar level was 2.0 and continued to rise to 2.4 an hour later at 9 00 pm at 9 14 pm Lucy Letby noticed that Baby M's twin brother, Baby L, was tensing his limbs. , curling the fingers and toes and rotating the hands and feet inward and I knew that these symptoms were indicative of the baby's brain being deprived of oxygen, but apparently she didn't think it was important enough to call someone and you know, bring a doctor to check the baby because he was struggling with these kinds of symptoms, which is strange and at 10 pm, baby M's brother Elle's blood sugar level was 2.3 . so she was going up but then at midnight it went back down to 2.1 and stayed the same for the next reading 2.1 and this next reading happened two hours later at 2am. m., so baby L was given more medication, but at 6 a.m. m. baby L's blood sugar was stubbornly low at 2.2, so glucose rose again, but the readings at 7 a.m. m. and at 9 a.m. m.

They showed that his blood sugar level was still 2.2; however, at 2 p.m. m. The next day, April 10, baby L's blood sugar was 3.0 and a note from the nurse. Laura Eagles, her day nurse, said the baby was very fussy at times, but his blood sugar was holding up and she was able to comfort and calm him easily, which is great and ironic when Lucy told B he wasn't there , the medical staff really saw their course. treatment that works for Baby Al Baby Al's blood sugar went up and stayed high, which is what happens when you give a baby a sugary substance, that's what you should generally see, unless a Anyone like to play with that now during rehearsal, they showed that In fact, Lucy had been asked to come in and work some overtime shifts that Sunday night, Monday or Monday night, and Lucy responded by saying no, Sorry, I need some days off, like some day shifts, but he said I could be on call at night now.

I remember at this point she was moved to day shifts because the hospital wanted to see if the babies' collapse pattern would follow her there, and it did, and a lot of people I saw in similar comments on Reddit and stuff saying why were the nurses asking? . for her to come in and work night shifts when she wasn't supposed to work at night and that's simply because the hospital administration at the top level isn't going to tell all the nurses, it's like we think her colleague is hurting to the babies, so "they are doing this experiment right, they are not going to tell them that, so the nurse was asking her to take turns, even if she was a senior nurse or a shift nurse, that nurse probably wasn't aware that Lucy was suspected because they want to keep it a secret, they didn't want to do anything to Spook Lucy or have her change her Mo so they could keep tracking her.

I think that's what happened at least, so Lucy didn't work at all on Sunday the 10th. April 11, which turned out to be the day baby Al got better, his blood sugar went up and stayed up and he got a lot better, but she worked the day shift on April 11, which was a Monday, but luckily was not in charge of baby Al or baby M. and spent her shift once again complaining to her friends via messages about how the neonatal unit was in terrible shape and who is trained on staff and who is not trained who It's good who's bad and she said something like um, you know, I have a lot of There are people who work here and some of them can do this and some of them can do this and they can't do this and they can't do this and she said that it wasn't a good combination of bad and crazy skills basically she is saying like this people are not as good as me they are not as skilled as me what is going on here how are they even allowed to breathe the same air as me no one should get the nurse title in the world except me Lucy was later asked by the police how baby L had received the insulin, you know it was almost a foregone conclusion at this point, baby Al had been given insulin by someone outside of his body , their body had not produced the insulin that had caused those high levels their body had not produced the insulin that was causing their blood sugar to plummet in an unhealthy way and they knew that someone had given it to them and They asked Lucy, well, how do you think he got it? he her medication you are the one who would be administering it to her and she responded that as far as she knew neither she nor the other nurse who had been the baby's assigned nurse had given the baby insulin because it had not been prescribed.

You know, she's basically saying I don't think we did that because the only time we would give this baby insulin is if the baby had been prescribed insulin and they didn't, so I don't think either of us did that. However, Lucy also admitted that it was a mistake quite impossible to correct; it is quite impossible to accidentally administer that much insulin over that long period of time. Accidentally, it must be done on purpose, especially since the insulin was kept in a locked room and a locked closet. It wasn't just available to accidentally put it in a tpn bag, it wasn't just like lying around and you know you wanted to take salt but you took pepper instead or you wanted to take salt but you took sugar and now your scrambled eggs taste. disgusting, you know stuff like that, it wasn't an easy mistake to have the insulins kept locked up and monitored for usage.

Now how is it monitored? It's a very good question that we're going to talk about a little bit. a little bit more about and honestly, I wish I had more information about, but the police asked Lucy. Are you saying this baby was intentionally given insulin and she said it wasn't me? I didn't give insulin to that baby. I'm not saying it was like that. done intentionally, but I say it's almost impossible to do it accidentally, but it wasn't me now, according to hospital records, three vials of insulin were delivered to the neonatal unit at Countess of Chester Hospital in 2014. two vials were delivered in 2016. but six vials were issued in 2015.

Nowthat were falling, there is an alarm pause button on the monitor screen, if you want to treat the child but do not want the alarm to go away, it will pause for one minute taking into account the frequency displayed on the monitor, estimated Dr. J. the tube would have been dislodged in between 30 and 60 seconds and that is assuming the alarm had only been paused once the appointment was over, so the allegation here is that Lucy Letby removed the breathing tube from this very baby. premature baby who urgently needed this oxygen. and then she stood there for at least 30 to 60 seconds and watched as the baby struggled to breathe and then stopped breathing, that's the allegation and it seems like they have pretty compelling evidence to say that she was probably responsible for this now Lucy denies everything literally everything she said, she did not remember that there was a significant drop in Baby K's saturation levels and if there had been the alarm would have gone off, she denied having dislodged the tube and said that she would have called for help herself if Dr.

J had not appeared, but I was probably waiting to see if the baby self-corrected this premature newborn baby who is in critical condition. She just wants to see if the baby can start breathing on his own again. Lucy said, "Not us." Normally she wouldn't intervene immediately if they weren't dangerously low. Quote, what do you imagine having a baby lying in front of you? A little premature baby, the most vulnerable creature on earth, and you say, "Ah, this baby isn't breathing, but I am." I'll just give it a second, give it a second, two, three or 60 and see if she self-corrects.

Now they asked a nursing expert if this was true. You know, you just wait for the baby to self-correct and start breathing on its own again and this nursing expert said no, that's absolutely false. A competent nurse would never have delayed intervention if there had been desaturation of any kind, especially in a baby as small and premature as Baby. K, I bet that pissed Lucy off, I bet it pissed her off hearing that when she said a competent nurse would never have delayed the procedure and Lucy is standing here like no one is more competent than me, how dare you, how dare you?

Do you dare, I'm probably too mad at this nursing expert to hear that about her now I don't have much more information about Baby K except that she didn't survive, it wasn't long after she passed away and two years later in April 2018, Lucy. searched for her parents on Facebook and then Dr. Jay claimed that he and some other colleagues had raised concerns about Lucy in the October 2016 Act, he said, quote, we as a group of doctors had already started to raise concerns, two members of the senior management team at the hospital about the association we had seen with an individual present in those situations and they told us, how do I say diplomatically, that we really shouldn't say those things and not to make a fuss, they really didn't have any evidence forceful, apart from the association we had seen, is a reason for regret and I wish I had been braver at that moment at the end of the date.

I wish I hadn't phrased it diplomatically because I would like to know what the hospital administration literally said. When a group of doctors who had recognized the pattern, they all recognized the same pattern, they came to them and said, "We are worried because this nurse is causing these babies to get sick and some of them to die and we really think there is something A This, what would the hospital administration respond to? Directly, you know, don't make waves, don't make a big deal of it, etc., etc., why did they say that? Because they were already investigating, they are trying to keep it.

In voice low, the Countess of Chester Hospital has some things to answer for, you know, as Ricky Ricardo would say, they have some explaining to do because this is pretty ridiculous. Now, once again, I'm trying to remain impartial. I think with some of these babies from What I've seen you could say that we don't have much hard evidence that Lucy did this to some of these babies. Personally, I have no doubt that she was personally responsible for me, but that still doesn't completely erase the responsibility. at the Countess of Chester Hospital if they were understaffed if they were staffing their neonatal unit with nurses who were not qualified to do the basic things they need to do when babies are in difficult conditions at birth if they were aware that something was happening the collapses and the deaths of so many babies and they looked the other way because they didn't have time for it or because maybe Lucy was a very qualified nurse and she was always the one who did the shifts and was reliable and they were Do we really want to make her angry?

Do you know what happens if it's not her? What if she has nothing to do with it? Do we really want to piss her off and like to leave ourselves more understaffed and more like unqualified alerts? The nurses have some things to answer for and I hope that in this trial Lucy's legal team, Ben Myers, holds them to account for that because I'm not going to sit here and say when, when, all these babies, how many are 17 total? we have babies, um being attacked, some of them dying, some of them living, but knowing that there is long-term damage, this baby here, baby M, who had to receive six doses of adrenaline for his heart to restart, do we think that is what you are going to do?

I know it can't cause any problems with his heart in the future, his heart like a small, underdeveloped baby, his brother, um, baby L, who was basically given so much insulin that it's almost hard to understand how a baby like that could having received so much. Insulin and having low blood sugar for a long period of time can cause learning and development problems that you won't even know about for a few years, so even babies who haven't died are still at risk for health complications. and health problems in the future and that's not fair, so am I going to want to just throw the book at Lucy and not look at the broader environment that she worked in and see a bigger problem?

No, of course, now I love everyone who had anything to do with it. in this being responsible so that Lucy can go behind bars and not hurt anyone else and the hospital can be held accountable and be forced to implement measures that keep patients safe now I want to address something because this is going to be like this. It will probably be a few weeks before we get back to Lucy. Let's leave it to B once she has more information The Trial is ongoing, but I want to say something because many of you expressed concern and just personal fear after watching these videos.

I know my daughter Nev, who is 21 years old and is the one who edits these videos. She also felt something similar. She said, "My God, I'm afraid to go to the hospital and give birth. Well, yes, I understand that I understand those fears of all of you more than you know because I'm afraid of everything. I'm afraid of everything because I know that out there in that world. there are bad people and and sometimes many times I can't tell just by looking at them and if you trust them and you let them in, they can hurt you, so I understand those fears, but I also want to say to most of the medical professionals that I have met paramedics, doctors, nurses, all of them, actually, most of them, and I would say 98 of them have been incredible and it takes a really big heart and a really kind soul to do that kind of work.

You have to be a real caregiver at heart so they have been amazing now are there any that I have met that are yes that doesn't mean they are killers it just means they don't have good bedside manners and I think they weren't so qualified to do it? which they did the way I would have liked them to be, of course, we have a great teaching hospital in Rochester and it happens to be the hospital that I always end up at, it's a great teaching hospital that is connected to the University of Rochester and it happens to be where I gave birth, as always, to my three children and they will want you to know to bring in interns, they will want to bring in residents and they want these people to like to do things to you, you know, because they have to. learn somehow and sometimes in these teaching hospitals you can feel like an exhibit, you're like you're on display, like everyone is watching you and I remember I have horror stories about a nurse who gave me an epidural when I was pregnant with Aiden after I had waited too long to get it because I wanted to do it without anything dry like I had done with nav my first baby my first baby hi nav you are my first baby I didn't do drugs with her and I was like I could do that again I'm not 17 anymore I'm older strong and better and just weaker I guess because I needed an epidural with Aiden he was huge too he was eight pounds 12 ounces but anyway when I asked On the one hand because I put it off for like 16 hours I thought I could do this when I asked her when she was exhausted and weak, nothing was going to happen.

She was still in labor and the anesthesiologist had gone home, so I had to do it. take the person who was training to be an anesthesiologist um and she came into my room and she had a mask on and she was like chewing gum behind her mask that loud and she had like a Pokémon um on her belt, it was Bulbasaur, I still remember it to this day because it was like floating in front of me while she was completely destroying my spine, so I didn't want to judge her because she had a Pokémon on her belt and I didn't want to judge her because she was chewing gum loudly behind her mask, but the I judged when he continued to push that needle into my spine and wouldn't you know he did it successfully and then he kept yelling at me to stay still and I was like, "I know you are." You are around 16 years old and have never been pregnant, but I am currently pregnant.

I'm currently in labor and having contractions every three seconds, so I'd really like to see your stupid ass stay still during a contraction. You should be able to give an epidural during a contraction, you know, you're doing it to pregnant women, so it should be part of your training, but anyway, there are horror stories out there, but this woman, this girl, she was young, no. I was trying to do it. I got hurt on purpose, she wasn't trying to kill me, so even people who aren't at the top of her game still aren't nefarious. My advice would be to you, if you are worried, remember that you can do it.

Stand up for yourself and you should stand up for yourself. I can't stand any kind of right. I hate it. It's my main thing that I hate more than anything else in this life, but don't think of yourself as an entitled person when you walk in. a hospital or a medical setting and you stand up for yourself, that's the only time you don't have the right, that's the only time you're allowed to be as loud as you want because it's your health or your health. son. If you don't want them to take your baby and put them in daycare as soon as they're born and I'm not talking about a premature baby, you know I'm talking about a normal baby, they still try to take those babies away from you.

You know, they always try to take my kids away from me and take them to daycare and I'm like I just had this baby, you just took him away from me, I want to hold my son, it's been like a year of being pregnant and growing this one. baby inside me and talk to him every night and love him and want him in my arms so much and now he's outside and I can't hold him and you're going to take him to daycare where he's going to sleep at night no, I want that baby in my room 24 7.

I don't want to see you take this baby if it needs to be changed I will do it if the baby needs to be fed I will do it when the baby is sleeping she is still here with me period that's right and they didn't like that I don't know why the nurses at my hospital at least didn't like that they wanted to keep taking my baby to daycare and you're like you need to sleep and I think I'm not going to sleep for the next 50 years. Now I'm going to get used to it. It's okay, we're fine.

I want my baby with me. I did this. I want to see him or her now you know I want to see him when he is sleeping so you can defend yourself even if you are in an ICU or NICU situation you can advocate for yourself I want to be close I want to see my baby every hour To make sure he or she is okay, I want be practical and want to be constantly updated. You can stand up for yourself and they may not like it because they are busy and don't want parents to interfere like popping. but you can and you should, and if she makes you feel better, calms you down, and reduces your anxiety, then do it, make yourself as inconvenient as possible because you are there for medical care. chances are you will pay an arm and a leg for it and you have the right to do and say what you think is best for you or your children's health so don't stress too much because You are powerful, you have the power and sometimes when you get into the medical field you feel like no, you feel helpless because all these people are there and they're experts and they went to medical school and I know what they're talking about and sometimes they can make you feel a little stupid and they can make you feel like you don't know what you're talking about and it doesn't matter if you know what you're talking about. because it's their job to make you understand what they're aboutspeaking in a way that can translate into your brain and also calm your fears, it's your job to do that, so don't feel intimidated, don't feel stupid don't feel small don't feel helpless you're not stupid you're not small and you're very Powerful when it comes to yourself and your kids and your health that's where your power lies so take it, exercise it well and if you need help doing that, call me, put me on FaceTime or whatever and I'll handle it for you, It's okay, trust me, those doctors and nurses won't question you twice once you've talked to them, so that's it.

Today I thank you all very much for being here with me. I appreciate them. We have a bunch of videos coming out in March. I have a lot of things I'm working on. It's like a weird moment in my head. because I'm very scattered and stressed for some reason and it's just end of the month stuff, but a very interesting March is coming up, a lot of cool videos, a lot of um, I'm going to do something strange and unusual, it's been a while, but I've done it . a good topic and I need a little break from this heaviness, you know, I'm sure you do too, so stay tuned for all that, don't forget to like it if you like the video, share it if you think it's worth sharing.

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