Dom Raso: The Will to Fight Pt. 1 - Danger Close with Jack Carr

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closure podcast an ironclad original brought to you by navy federal credit union my guest today is my friend and teammate dom rasso we met at the seal team 2 quite a few moons ago and then graduated into the the ranks of the naval special warfare development group are falling again and again when he came out, he founded the dynamis alliance. You can find more information about them at smash everything dot com and now without further ado dom razzle what's up buddy what's up awesome it's like that.

It's good to see you and when I started this podcast, this was one of the main things I was looking forward to: being able to turn off the phones, all the things we just talked about, ringing me all the time and that drives me crazy and just. sit down have a conversation with a friend yeah because we don't do that enough like we would never sit like that if we didn't have a reason to. It's a crazy, intriguing point in life where you're just like us. I actually have to do this to catch up and be this focused, but it's good and I was waiting for it too bro, so it's amazing to be here, amazing, amazing, but yeah, it's crazy how we have to do that , but I noticed it. about other people's podcasts over the years since I went out and wrote the first book and started doing podcasts with other people, that was a lot of fun for me, especially if I knew them, even if I didn't know them, sometimes it They could create these friendships during these conversations with people you don't even know because you sit and get to know that person for an hour or two hours, half an hour, hour and a half, whatever, but for me this is the best, the best part it's just you gotta catch up, yeah man, all I mean is danger, shutting down the podcast, all you gotta do, it's amazing, you know, and I always find it very unique and interesting how James Reese and how I connect, whether it's a creative side or team, I love everything you're doing with the character right now, it's amazing, thank you, thank you, well your team is in the books, as are your influences in the books, you led the way by leaving the army first and entering this world. of the social networks that I want to talk to you about later, um and then build a business and obviously we are not quote-unquote trained for that, but you know, what we are trained to do almost without realizing it is to be entrepreneurs because that's what What we're doing on the battlefield is that constant adaptation, obviously looking for gaps in the enemy's defenses, capitalizing on momentum and opportunities, which is really what we're doing now as entrepreneurs, but if we mess up here, you know what.

It's okay, we can fix it tomorrow. We can adapt tomorrow, no one

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come home in a body bag because of the decision we made and you don't have to make decisions so quickly because bullets don't fly and you can take a second and then you can sleep. but it's still a game of constant, don't think about it too much, you know, some of those who get caught up in the uh, it's life or death right now, yeah, and we know it, so that mix of the two worlds is very interesting, but the one word that stood out to me was adaptability, you know, so no matter what the problem is or what the challenge is, it's that level of adaptability, it's like if you put it in front of me, I'll figure it out.

I'm going to find a way forward so that those principles apply to everything we do, whether it's being an entrepreneur or being a great parent. I feel like they apply very well as long as we continue to evolve and grow and not stagnate or get stuck in one place. That could hold us back or potentially be harmful in some way because I think some of the things can bite us in the butt too, yeah, what we know and what we thought we knew, yeah, you absolutely know or we can see these things, these problems as life. or death when, hey, maybe we can really take a breath, yeah, we don't really need that level of intensity, that level of thinking yet, but maybe we can pause and think a little bit more because it's not.

We're not forced to make this decision right now because the enemy is flanking or moving to high ground or whatever or even longer-term adapting how they use their IEDs based on our counters and everything. others, so it's uh, yeah, but personal and professional adaptability, like the personal side of the house, also when life knocks you down or throws something unexpected at you, I mean, you can choose, as you know, uh uh, if you You

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sit there and just feel. I'm sorry for yourself or if you're going to adapt because eventually you're going to have to adapt, you know it's going to happen, you're going to get there, it's just how long it's going to take you to realize that you have to adapt and you have to get up and move on, but before to get into more of that stuff, when were you the first time you discovered what a seal was?

How old were you? You were already interested in the military and you knew you were going for that. route and then I found out about the seals or what that path was like for you, yes this is easy because I was alone with my friend John and you know, yes, from the divine Canaanites, it is very, very incredible to see John and I where we are today . I was actually in Virginia Beach and I was pretty sure we were eight or seven or eight. I'm a year older than him, but we were literally walking down the street and we grew up right across from each other.

I can literally throw a rock at his house and we were just playing manhunt or we were doing something in the neighborhood, you know we would do cops and robbers, you know all those things we did when you were younger, painting our faces and crawling around and I remember him He said, yeah, there's these guys that my uncle was telling me about, you know, they're like navy seals, like the best of the best spearhead, however, that came out, yeah, you know, I just remember him saying that I was like, wait a minute. who is this group or this unit that is at that higher level, so I was intrigued and wanted to know more, so he and I, as little kids, were totally fed into this idea of ​​who these guys are, what they do, because.

Do they exist and I think that trip took us to the point where we went to the local library and I don't remember, but I think there were two or three books that existed in the library at that time and I remember the one that What you looked through was the boys in the desert and, side by side, were the guys with the .50 caliber. They were all the classic images that you see, but they caused a journey in our hearts where it's like we had to know more. about these kids and then we started traveling to different libraries and then we were convinced by the idea that we were going to become seals when we grew up, that was the mission, that was the journey, everything in our childhood led us to that.

We would surf and torture ourselves at the end of the road where we lived about 200 yards from the water in New England, which gave us a really good opportunity to do that. Yeah, we were going to drown each other, you know. ten years at the local pool, you know, people like what are these kids doing vomiting on each other uh playing manhunt paintball, I mean anything that aligned with that lifestyle, we just pushed and shoved each other to others until it became a reality. I mean, it's easy to say from that moment until I was 18 and when I signed up, but there was also a huge long journey.

I went through many valleys that tried to grab me and drag me down into many things. in different ways and luckily I got out of there one day on that trip, but John and I there was a crucial moment, you know, on the front porch, you know, playing with each other, basically saying we're going to make a bet. First I will become a seal and we shook hands and bet. I'm pretty sure it's 50 or 100 dollars and we shook hands. I beat him and he finally did it. He owed me money for a long time and I was like.

A thousand, wasn't it? A thousand of you accumulated interest over time. You know, we just give each other a hard time. I always got free drinks from the deal, but these last couple of shots show that we and he actually connected. I finally paid and then I was so excited to get the money and we threw it on a craps table and it was gone in like two seconds, it was the most anticlimactic thing that worked until that, but yeah, that's it in a nutshell, that's it. kind of journey that John and I took, we motivated each other, we pushed each other, I think that was a key element that we both really drove towards that goal, oh that's amazing, yeah, they don't build the palazzo in Venetian because people go there and winning, uh, all the time, yeah, unfortunately, uh, so in high school, were you when you were playing sports and did you think about while you were doing those sports or hey, how is this going to help me as I move forward in my position? -high school life when I went into the military, I think a lot of high school, at least high school, I was pretty focused and focused, you know, I was working on my own, you know, I thought about the idea of ​​what I was doing karate.

I went You know, shaolin kempo. I did that when I was a kid and it was really good for me. Yes, I worked my way through some of the belts. I got some instruction when I was younger and when I moved on to high school that's when everything started to go downhill. For me, I lost sight of that goal. I had started hanging around with the wrong people, you know, letting influences and the world take control of my heart and doing things for the wrong reasons everywhere, in every aspect of my life, altering my life. parents and just following these dark paths and that got me to a point where I was pretty desperate at the time, I mean, I could unpack a whole journey of being younger, but I always tell myself, man, I was. like I'm glad I got out of there, but I'm lucky I didn't kill myself or kill someone else or end up in jail, really, you know it was that bad, I mean a lot of the ones I have. away by the skin of my teeth and I just know that it's a blessing, I know that it has a purpose and why I was able to see those things in my life, but it was really very interesting and how I came out of it, so you know.

It was just a part of that when I got into high school. I played a little football. I stayed pretty active, but that whole high school era was pretty much a gray area for me. I ended up doing the wrong thing. You understand? We were

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ing in high school, I guess hanging around with the wrong people again, wrong motivations, yeah, you know, I started doing all the things you shouldn't do, drinking too much, uh, doing drugs You know, they were just things that I just shouldn't have been involved in, yeah, and like I said, by the grace of God, I got out of everything that's difficult and it doesn't matter what community you come from, I mean, those things are there. and even more today like you. had influence that were real people um now you don't even have to have a real person that's a bad influence that a parent can see and say wait this something doesn't look right here uh everything is on these phones for these kids and even if you're a parent and we're struggling with that right now and you're trying to put these controls in there, you can watch what your kids do, but they have counters like the enemy, they're adapting them.

Children are adapted just like the enemy does and there are many other influences out there some good some bad some positive some negative um but their influences anyway and even if you eliminate all that there are still many more distractions and uh in and influences than the that we had growing up just because okay maybe take off your phone, okay guess what there's a computer, oh I guess there's an iPad, oh there's an older brother, oh there's a friend who has one. Well, they don't know that person's house. so guess what you're on a carpool with someone who has one because there are four kids I mean there will be these inputs that we can't necessarily control as parents we can try but that educational part and what you I'm doing a great job when I see how you're handling it, I'm taking some notes, but uh, but like you have real people, today yeah, you have real people and then you have all these other things like Well, I think it's a lot harder now, it's definitely a lot harder. and when I look back at when I was younger, you know, because if you go back and look at our parents and what they went through, you know they were growing up in the '60s and In the '70s and '80s, I feel like that's when a big derailment started to happen. of our society when it comes to moral principles and values, so they were like, oh, you can do whatever you want, now that you're parents.

So I saw that developing, so knowing what I did and seeing some of my other friends who never left, you know, the city where I come from or continue doing the same thing, is that we needed more guidance, we needed more men and influence on our lives to guide us on the right path it always took a village to raise warriors and men, it hasn't been that way since then, like the last hundred years, where we really think, oh, you can go to another state andstay with whoever you want go to college and you're basically letting teachers and other kids of other influence raise your kid, yeah right, that's a completely radical idea, yeah, from 100 years ago, like 100 years ago, yeah was doing something, that craft was passed on to my son, there was not even one that you even thought about it, so this is something that I have been exploring, but both in my own life and in the life of our culture is how to recover that, since You know, because if I know what I got myself into, I can only imagine. like you said, it's harder now, so how are we going to counteract that with our own kids?

I mean, this is something I'm very passionate about. I could sit here and talk about this all day, but I think it takes some serious intentionality to rethink. about how we parent, yeah, you know, I have five kids and to me it's everything, it's the most important thing I do, yeah, you know, is making sure that those kids are armed with their faith and their morals and their principles so they can go out . and knowing exactly what's right and what's wrong or maybe I didn't have it, you know I could have made a mistake, thank God I made it, but man I was so

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to hurting people and myself and it was like in a degree, but that could have happened and I wouldn't be here today like everything else in life, but what could have guided me a little bit more towards the right path, maybe someone or a parent or an influence that would have been like, you know what I need. rethink what I'm doing before I put myself in this situation, yeah, I mean, not only did I get out alive, but also all the people I hurt along the way, all the people I damaged our relationships and really put pain on . in people's lives because I was being selfish or I didn't know the right thing to do, you know, yeah, what was that point where you realized you were going down the wrong path and you took that breath or whatever you might have?

The point where everything is building up is building up and then when you said oh hey, you know what's the time for a change, boom, I'm focused on the military again, here I go 100 and I was at the lowest of the lowest. lowest I have ever been in my life I think throughout the journey through that dark valley I certainly understood that some of the things I was doing were wrong and I think having faith at a very young age laid the foundation around my heart knowing that I am kind to follow these paths for the wrong reasons but still the world grabs us it takes control of us this idea of ​​I want to make my friends happy or I want to do this or this new thing or this new fashion and that's why Tell the kids everything the time be very careful what you let control your heart, so throughout that journey of years, I mean, I think two or three years really got really bad, was watching my life fall apart, you know, They kicked me. from my mother's house I was kicked out of my father's house and, fast forward, that part of my life is difficult to talk about, it really is as if at this point in my life I have barely erased it, but more or less Put it where it belongs, so it was part of who I was, but I know more now because of it, because I went through those tough times, but it was really at a point where I was living in an apartment, I mean drinking. drugs every other night and it finally got me to a point where I was at the point where I was thinking about suicide, I mean I hit that low point, that's hard to say because you know it was a long time ago and it's like a stranger.

Now I have the idea that I don't even contemplate that in this moment I am putting myself back together with faith in the values ​​that I have today, but at that moment I was alone in a bathroom and I will never forget the feeling of God's grace and forgiveness coming. me and literally grab myself by the shoulder and say this is not where you're supposed to be, this is not who you are and literally feel that love of God and totally in that moment be like whoa like what am I doing? How did I get to this point?

How did I let life drag me so far down this path? Wow and the next day I walked into the recruiter's office. No way, the next morning I stripped myself of everything. I got rid of everything. I changed that moment. Wow, on that. At the same moment I changed and entered the recruiting office. I'll never forget the two guys standing there looking at me with their heads shaved, super thin, malnourished, they didn't have my stuff together, baggy clothes and they were like I was like. Yeah, I want to be a seal and they see me as this kid, yeah, okay, boy, uh, go take the azrap, it's in the back of the room, there, no way, uh, and I remember the first time I went back there to drink. the asvab and they were just making fun of me all the time.

I remember feeling that pressure from them like there was no way you were in the wrong place, but I remember being so convinced that the revitalization of this is exactly where I'm supposed to be. and from that moment on my life changed, that is, I started running the next day, I put on my boots and jeans, they had no idea how far I was going, I just went out into the street and started running in no way and I kind of reconnected. with what I said I was going to do and all that came flooding back to me and I started to contemplate and go over all the things that I did wrong, you know, and at that moment I reconciled with my dad, with my mom in the little that the little that I I was able to and I think I was 17 when I went to the recruiting office I was 17 and I said hey this is what I want to do and so they put me on the path eventually I got into maps even in the middle of Trying to get into the navy some things happened. setbacks.

In fact, I remember getting detained while I was enrolled in the military waiting to leave, so my mom saved my ass on that one. I forgot it. I think I was speeding. I was accelerating. and they arrested me and my mom came out and because she had done so many things wrong, they said, hey, you're probably going to have to get yourself arrested or we're going to have to talk to you or this will be resolved. on your record, but my mother was so worried about keeping me from going to the military that she liked to call everyone she knew in her phone book.

Wow, and somehow I don't even know what she did, but I'm not even going to ask questions. at this point, you know my mom, you know, may she rest in peace, she's, you know, in heaven right now, but she stopped that from happening and then all these little things that try to stop me in my tracks and They finally go where I am. Today sitting here with you wow, you know, and how many times have I said, man, how surreal is this. I'm sitting here with one of my best friends, John, right? You're sitting here like the things that we've been able to accomplish but coming.

From that level, I always try to tell kids that they can do whatever they set their mind to. I knew Adam Brown very well and although it's really challenging for me to read his book, I can relate to a lot of what he went through and a lot of that struggle and that journey that he ultimately took, you know, being desperate and being on that very level. low, but God uses that as a way to glorify these things that we go through, these dark places that we visit in our lives, these struggles. this adversity is driven by all purpose, yeah, I mean, I can't tell you how many times I think it would be difficult for someone who hasn't been through something to sit there and preach about that circumstance, but of all the things that I went through Being able to see this in particular, I thought: I know what it's like to be at that level.

I know what it's like to be with gangs in the middle of a city shooting people at two in the morning while people are trying. You know, manipulating you into doing something you don't want to do. I know how it feels. So when I look into someone's eyes, I feel like I can feel your pain. You know, and there's a much better life after that. That's just one example, but I feel like God uses those things so we can see that and help other people. I think that's what it's all about, being able to give that back and being able to serve others to stop it.

What happens goes right back to parenting, how has God given us the experiences we have? Are we using them to their full potential for our children? Yes, do we know that we are really applying them? Know? Any of these one-grade changes could put my son right where he was, so am I doing enough to prevent that from happening? Yeah, oh man, then at 17, then you stopped like the next day, no more drugs, no, everything bam started running, started figuring everything out, what, what, what drugs were those. You're a lot and you said okay, I can, I can do this and were you ever tempted to go back.

No no. I was never tempted to go back and didn't even think about it for a second. I've really looked into it. In that, both professionally and personally, pre-military, post-military, is that if something is taking control of my life, yes, and I have done this in the past, whether it is cigarettes, or any of the things that I was doing. the drugs I was taking I always knew I had to be able to put them in their place so I couldn't control myself you know, food is the same, whatever we have habits are the same for me if I feel like they're starting to grab me in a negative way, I'll put them in their place and of course it's easier said than done for some people, yes, but I think that we need to practice, that we need to exercise that and do that, but uh.

Yeah, just that day I thought, that's it, yeah, that takes a lot of strength right there, and interestingly you talk about parenting and these influences because they're like mentoring, there's a reason why a mentor is not a parent. actually if you go back and look at the history of that word and what that position meant, uh, in society, uh, a mentor, because it makes a difference, like when you tell my kids something, it's different than me telling them something. say 100 something, whatever you are. I know there's something there, which is why mentoring and a mentor were so important to people in the past.

Yes, they did not have these influences. You know, they didn't have any of these. None of these influences us. I've been talking about that and interestingly you also talked about the culture before as well as some of those influences in '80s movies and movies used to be our most powerful export from this country around the world, Hollywood and in the good sense. um and people would watch these movies and say, "Oh my God, I want to go to that country." I know maybe I'm going to be a movie star or maybe I can do this and that, but now obviously Hollywood is a little different, but if you grew up in the '70s if you grew up in the '80s, even in the '90s before the advent of social media, I'll focus on the 80s, if you didn't have a mentor you could almost have a virtual mentor in some of these people in the movies, I mean difficult movies that grew up, had a big impact on my life , if I wanted to say, we identify with the underdog and then you see this person coming out of nowhere and facing these struggles and then, facing adversity and going, I mean, it's an incredible story, uh, that's why everyone in everything the world know that story, they know the story of Rocky, yeah, um, but you had these movies where you had them and, for me, I would identify with that identification with these movies obviously focused on special operations, uh, whether it's Rambo. or commando or whatever, I could be predatory, um, but those were a big influence in a positive way and hey, I want to be like that guy, I want to be like uh, John Matrix or you know Dutch or whatever, you know like I.

I'm going to do How can I become like this? I have to work out. I guess I do some pull-ups. Those are pretty big guys there, they look pretty fit. um and I mean it was very powerful, but I think now there are so many other distractions for these kids like my kids don't even watch movies like that anymore, they're like there's nothing, there's not something happening to them every second like these, the tick mark tock like the Wall Street Journal had an article on the tick tock brain. about 15 seconds of distraction until you need another one and that's why I printed it.

I took all the hype, all the distractions within the article and gave it to our little one, our 11-year-old son, to read and, then, we could be aware of what's going on out there and you know, try to do as best we can, but that mentoring piece, um, it's important, the key thing that you said and I knew this, that's why I said it takes a village to raise their children, it's true, there's truth behind it and it's happened. something beautiful locally for us and knowing that we have leaned towards that idea, I have a brotherhood of men that we meet every week, we pray together, we literally do everything together. trying to help each other professionally and personally and the fruits that have come from doing that are exactly like you said yes Dominic is with me now and one day I will probably do a podcast with him at some point, but if you reach out and say something to him, he will resonate with that, you know that he will look at you, it will be as if he admires you, and if he starts to hear that constantly, which is what happened in the town, hey.

We are all living this path for a reason, this whole town, that is our goal, there we are all together, unified and that makes something powerfully different for a child, especially for little boys, girls, yet, and I think that It is something that we need to fight to get back to that and we have been working on that and the fruits that that haswhat evolved with the rail systems and ops core and everything else and seeing the evolution of the hulls over the years from really after 9/11 and then to when I left. It was great to see. that that progression and then being able to do it was great meeting you guys in that command and seeing what you were doing and having these relationships where you could pass that on to the regular teams and all that, so it was a really cool moment.

I thought about being in and they had approval from their command to start a company to do that right, which is crazy, yeah, I mean, it's not, I mean, it's not crazy, it's amazing because they had that history, everything is interesting. Also, a special thanks to our presenting sponsor, Navy Federal Credit Union. I've been a member since 1996. There's my reference card. Navy Federal has been with me every step of the way. While I was in the military for those 20 years. and now that I'm away and they've taken care of me, they've taken care of my family and they've had nothing but the best experience with them, so to have them as sponsors of this podcast is, well, it's humbling and I'm honored.

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I love this blade here and the sheaths also fit all knives so it's really cool that this goes inside the waistband. Amazing case. It is simply found in the appendix. Just find a good place to set up and yeah, I love holsters, I love that sword, the second one he brought out here, so that's the Razorback, yeah, named after our friend Adam Brown and if you haven't read Fearless by Eric Blem on the life of Adam Brown. I highly recommend it so this one is a little bit smaller here it has that red color there oh I also love this piece uh this one means a lot so that's the razorback this is the newest one here this is the bow so it's a little Bigger than the dynamo blade and this thing.

I started wearing it about two weeks ago and I love it. This thing is not too big to

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y in the appendix and it is solid so this amazing thing you definitely need one or two because why one is none yeah this is the smr sword here so this one really is made to wear with shorts, be in a place, uh, wear in a place where maybe you don't want anyone to know that you're wearing it, but I'm wearing shorts and that kind of thing, same holster but different color here, so it's a little less threatening, but it also acts as a bottle opener, which is probably how you'll use it the most, but this thing is pretty sweet. well, and this particular one is infused with this coating so it doesn't rust, so you can find more information on that smash everything.com, visit the blade section, find out that coding and that coding is also on this second generation combat .

Flathead If you've read my novels, you know how much I love this. If you've read my latest novel In the Blood, you'll know that this has a starring role, but it's also infused with that layer, so we don't have to. Worry about rust and this thing is just solid. I love this flathead match. The previous ones here were wrapped in leather, so these are amazing. I love them. These are not impregnated with that coating, but they are super solid. I love these things. What else do sneakers come with? with these as well, so you can practice and on that website crush everything.com you can find information about dom training courses and your options there for some sword work and some sword training right there, that's the sheath for flathead combat.

So that works too and I usually

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y that one like this in my pocket and my other blade is there in the appendage and then there are some non-metallic options, so those are there too and I can only think that James Reese will take advantage of the non-metallic option in a future novel Thank you for tuning in to the Danger Closed podcast, a gritty original brought to you by Navy Federal Credit Union. Learn more about Dom Raso at Crush Everything. com follow us on Instagram at dynamous alliance type domra so you can follow him too and if you like this conversation be sure to leave a five star rating and review wherever you get your podcasts you can follow me at

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