Titanforge Podcast 132 - Pieces Disbands with Bastu

days, so yeah, again, they definitely played well, I mean, this is like they did well, but yeah, I mean, and even if it was just an earl's chair, it's still a country, right, yeah, I mean that They play with different rules, they have always played with different rules. I mean, even look at the Nathrius stuff, I think for a lot of people they didn't really do it, but they don't play by different rules in the sense that they like what people quote and they always get it wrong. They don't have different loot, they are generally like you said, they play on the exact same servers, like server rules.

I doubt the mythical plus worked. I guess I don't know for sure, but I really doubt it, but as far as account sharing goes, they still are. back in 2013 when no one cared yeah every time serenity killed august oh sorry what's the boss? star auger, they would never do that with other people, yes gamco was playing three characters at once, yes me too, does gamco happen to be a beast, I mean what can I talk about that, but yes, the keyboards, but again I don't want to downplay it because regardless, they obviously still played well. Yeah, I'm trying to make sure it doesn't sound like I'm just saying this because I'm sorry because that's not the reason, yeah, if they had gotten sick it would have been even worse, you know, because yeah, it's also one of those things that it's super difficult, I think for a guild to get into the top two like that until they almost start creating their own strategies and there are some copies that are shared between all the main guilds in the top five and sometimes the guilds and the top five First ones come up with their own unique strategy and it's actually very good, but most of the time like the guilds in that rank three four five six will at least copy major portions of almost all the bosses and it seems to me a method and a horizon and those guilds need get to that extra step where you are making your own strategies, yes I agree with that, but there is a caveat.

I think that can cause problems. I think some people I definitely think some guilds I don't know how much this has happened on echo because obviously I've never read it there. I know it's seven

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where we've had our own strategy and we've seen how the liquid will do it on day one and we'll say maybe this will work, maybe we'll just do that, when in reality if we stick to how we wanted to, even if there were been much better for us, yeah, I definitely think there's a trap you can fall into, where you copy when you probably shouldn't have.

I'm sure when you do, those things come up all the time. where you say, oh, there's no way we would have thought about avoiding this interaction of things that happen if we did their strategy, you know, yeah, whereas you would have thought about that if you did your own strategy, yeah, yeah, it's hard, yeah, believe. uh obviously now everyone is done with the streams that are available. uh, being able to copy is obviously a very useful thing, but you still need to be able to create your own stuff, I mean, the analysts here were paid to literally watch streams and copy strategies for likes and have information about the other guild strategies, yeah, yeah, I mean, that's how I stayed in London.

I synchronized my sleep schedule with the boundaries so I could get into the studio in London at the same time. like limit and I watched their stream all day because you know one or two days they deleted their vods. I would say that and write timers in Shara for 12 hours a day and write any changes they had. That's right, because that. was that that was the best way I contributed to progress, I mean, that's what later, that's what I'm going to say now, sure, I still have the sheet, I actually linked it, maybe now, actually If not, I won't do this. but on my youtube account I have about 50 nine-minute extracts directly like the ones downloaded from Max's stream just uploaded to my youtube.

They have like 30 groups, 28 groups, 27 and then when the method exceeded the liquid or the limit. had correct methods, ten percent extraction, it's a five percent pool and that's, the analysts definitely know that there are a lot of people now that are doing that and they're basically getting paid to do it, so yeah, but I definitely think that It's something I hope people don't. Don't forget to like, you know how to be good at it, you know how to innovate and create your own things because you can't always trust that you can never win without doing that too, right, yeah, I got it, I mean, you can't. win by copying uh, it's not possible, okay, that's not true.

I mean, you could probably win if you were around and copied a strategy and they could execute it better, but yeah, if you liked their step word for word, you probably couldn't. do it with the same efficiency from the beginning, you know, totally understand it, well, I have one more for you, Mr. Boss, what do you think would happen if the parts were still out there and Blizzard figured it out? word of trying to bring back something like master loot and if the boes are already a problem, what if they bring back my greeting? I'm going to lie if they bring back my greeting, the race will be the first to blame, oh yes, I mean, there is of course anyone who says otherwise simply hasn't thought it through probably 29 traders one yes, one minute you were literally fine in that because you couldn't do that because you would have to have someone, you would have to have a male person in the other person in the race, a cloth person randomly, you know, etc., but it's like you have to have so many characters and so many, I mean, we're talking about a hundred divisions in a heroic week or something.

I talked about this the other day and it's that it would be incredibly degenerate um and you know the problem with career, well, early skills is that we, you know, create our own problems, I mean, that's been a thing for a long time, You know, I mean. I'm not sure if you saw the interview with Morgan Day where I don't remember what he was referring to, but he said we did something to improve the race, the first in the world for the top one percent, we made the change, oh. it was a marketability here or something, it was something like that, I think so, and it's like they did this, but really all that was going to happen is you're just going to find some degenerate way to make it work, you know, that's good, I want say.

This isn't that limited, I mean, yeah, this level definitely solidified his opinion of trying to ban the race from, well, early guilds doing degenerate things just because you know the rest of their abilities will just do more degenerate things to cancel that out. , so yes. It's a little difficult, okay, yeah, I guess the last question is: what's next? What's next for you? Whats Next? I don't know if you know what's going on with other people and

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- do you have plans to do anything? If so, you want to share them here or if it's okay, if you take the time and allow it, if you ever send us a private message, we'll let people know where to find whatever you're doing next. every time you come up with whatever, wow, so to be completely honest, I have three options: there are two guilds I would consider making things for, maybe and then it's just me leaving it without offending anyone but them . the first two, but I really have no interest because I would have to find it worth it and you know, I have a realistic chance of winning, yeah, infinite and instant dollars, which guild do you like pop tart corn dog?

You come to hang out with pop. sour corn dog game rectangle I thought you wanted a chance to win even though we wasted our entire budget on a wizard man we have nothing left uh call dip and call dip I think he has room in the budget for this, okay, yeah, yeah I think limo and I would be great if limo and I could go somewhere together and that's not based on anything we've talked about or organizations or anything, you know, I think we've had a few years of working together and we work together pretty well now, you know, Lomo is very much strategic the more he comes up with all the strategies for the pieces for years and years and years, I mean, no one was incredibly smart like that and Lamar likes that ability. of organization and sheets and things like that, I've filled that void for him, um, but yeah, I mean, wherever I go, I'm sure I'll be happy, so yeah, I hope I don't quit, but if I do, I will.

I just know that right now I'm playing TBC, maybe playing casually, but maybe I'll retire to nerfed. I've heard that nerfed is the brave retirement home and I'm not sure my common sense would allow me to go there, but yeah, someone actually asked. in the chat if I would consider them casting and I really don't want to throw in here but wait a second I'm not a cat I'm ready okay considering if you compare the pay of a caster and a raider I think so. maybe I'd consider casting, that's not shady, that's just smart, come hang out with us, yeah, casting seems like a pretty good connection, I'm not going to lie, obviously, I rated the production for pieces of this level and I thought, oh, like that.

Pretty good job, you know, I mean, maybe Frank and I will be a package deal. Frank and I go all the way to our first broadcasts and we choose together and we hold hands, so yeah, okay, maybe you'll see me. doing that, oh go ahead, you will definitely miss the pieces. I think, oh yeah, that probably comes from the three pieces dying is very unfortunate. A really sad situation as if I had sat in the queue of a guild that at least for me was always active. On the cusp of being about to get into the top two, I always felt like it was like different people, good things, yeah, yeah, I mean, I was definitely very sad, something that I know you wrote in the notes before and the question was about how either it took a long time to come or you know, it was because they were nowhere, it was definitely something that was kind of last minute and it got to the point where you know it reached a tipping point and then you know that everything fell apart. down in one go was, uh, it's super sad and you know, I've only spent three years of my life doing it, so it's not someone like a little bit more who's been there for 12.

I mean, it's a little different because already You know. It was just a generic deal before them, but yeah, maybe one day, 10 years of time will come back and take out the boss. I tried to convince Lamar to make it a two-day guild, but he said no and, yeah, maybe I can stay. it's fair, classic, ooh, don't run it again, yeah, classic, yeah, in 10 years that's where it'll probably be, yeah, yeah, maybe, but maybe I'll do a two-day guild and maybe that'll be my new move, but we'll see, yeah. I'm sure glad the pieces were lost, fragments yeah, yeah, maybe that actually works, yeah, I'm glad the pieces were lost and, uh, yeah, I mean, the support of the last few years it's been really great, that's the underdog, you know everyone loves supporting the underdogs so yeah, I feel like there's a rivalry like naeu, there are people who support echo and also people who hate echo, people right that they support liquid and people would hate liquid, but the pieces, yeah, it's just that everyone loved the pieces, so we'll definitely, yeah, we'll definitely miss them.

I'll never forget you when you said we had a two percent chance of winning the race to be first in the world. I don't know when I said that. Look, this year we said last year no, no, I think it was uh, it was Castle North Rio, okay, well, yeah, we had a pin on our Draco discord saying we had 2 chances of really just atrocious. Dear, I agree, embarrassing, okay, okay, I'm glad for all the friends I've had and that I've met during the pieces, yes, it's always so sad beyond, obviously, when it goes like a guild, yes, yeah, well, on that note, um, yeah, we'll be back next week with a more standard episode with all the usual bits.

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