Roland Martin, Gerald Horne Deconstruct Isiah Thomas, Jason Whitlock's Opposition To Black Anthem

Okay, Basketball Hall of Famer Isaiah Thomas continued, uh, this idiot, Jason Whitlock, is a show on Glenn Beck's The Blaze that tells you everything you need to know about this, so they had a conversation , a long conversation about race and other topics. and the national

anthem

played and you know you have white people like megan kelly and bill maher and others who are all upset and angry oh this is separating us and all this kind of stuff like this and I saw this and I thought you know what I have to say about this because there were some things that are actually not correct, but I also want to really explain to you what that play is here while all of a sudden this is a thing, so go ahead and do it.

He said we have to remove the racial box yeah, tell me something, how do we remove the racial box when we sing the banner with stars in this hand, but then we sing a

black

national

anthem

here, how does that unite something, how do we remove? the race box if we're doing that in the first place, uh, great question, and you know, for a long time we fought, you know, not having the race box and the census report right, we fought for a long time and they just really understood. where they classified us

black

white yellow blue color of people now when you sing the national anthem and then you sing the national anthem black the only thing it does is emphasize all separation and what our founding fathers when they wrote the constitution and everything else they were about speaking, come together under one umbrella under a constitution where all men and women are created equal, not these, okay, first, go ahead, let him finish playing and then I'll be back.

White red yellow boxes. You know we aspired to be that, so when you see those two different applications, okay, here's the deal, so it's not true. Isaiah, uh, the declaration of independence says that all men are created equal, not women, when they said all men are created equal, they meant. white men didn't even mean all white men, they really meant white landowners. One of the mistakes we make in this country is that I keep telling you that there is a difference between learning your history and learning history, and the reality is that we have been sold a fallacy in the United States.

They have sold us the fallacy that the United States is great and wonderful and that things were done the right way and with the greatest democracy. God loves us more than anyone in the world. That's the United States. That's what we've been. sold what we have to understand is that there is no such thing as the writers wanting everyone to be treated the same that is simply not true because because they wrote it they said it that is literally what they did now the other day on the show, I will tell you I said and I love watching it because it's so concise in explaining exactly the reality of what it means to be black in this country and understanding what people wanted in terms of creation.

Here is Barbara Jordan 1974 in her testimony about Watergate. Listen. jordan the purpose of the general debate should not exceed a period of 15 minutes thank you mr president mr president i joined my colleague mr angle in thanking you for giving the young members of this committee the glorious opportunity to share the pain of this investigation mr president You are a strong man and it has not been easy, but we have done everything we can to give you as much help as possible today we heard the beginning of the preamble to the constitution of the United States, we the people, it is a very eloquent beginning. but when that document was completed on September 17, 1787, he was not included in those people.

Somehow I felt for many years that George Washington and Alexander Hamilton simply left me out by mistake, but rather through the process of amendment interpretation and judicial decision. I have finally been included and we, the people, today I am an inquisitor, now not completely because the reality is that we still have to fight to assert our rights, press play on a larger size of the interview, okay, there are two different states , not races, because I'm going to call it what it is, its status, there are two different statuses in this country, black and white, so there is a black national anthem, there is a white national anthem, okay, if you just want to have a national anthem , then let's come together collectively and decide, okay, what will be the national anthem for this country, not only okay, Isaiah, that's just not true, there is a national anthem, there is one first, which is the Spanish banner with stars and spangles , now let me remind people when the stars were released.

A sign was written and again this is what I need us to understand because one of the things is that we have been taught a lot of things in this country, but we were not really taught everything in this country. What we have to understand is that, first of all, the star-spangled banner when it was written, okay, it wasn't the national anthem, it was a poem, if you actually read it, you'll realize that the third stanza, which has been quite debated, it deals with the topic of the phrase, let's just deal with that second one, okay. of all things when we talk about the black national anthem that is not what it is called the song is called lift up every voice and sing written by james weldon johnson in 1900 in 1919 the naacp called it the black national anthem and since then that is what we refer to but it was never simply a song by james weldon johnson why is it so important? it's because if you fall in love with how they're framing all of this then it becomes oh my god we have two anthems, we don't really have them and Remember the Charles Bank Banner written in 1814, it didn't become the national anthem until 1931.

Now They are making a big fuss because the little voices in the ears sing like they used to sing before, before the casserole banner, everyone realizes that sometimes, when they watch the game, they sing America the beautiful before the salsa bingo sign , so what is the problem? We're singing another song before the star-studded sign or the crazy revoirs. play more of the interview, please, national anthem, because the white national anthem. has classified as status we can have a hymn that speaks for the Italians that speaks for the Greeks that speaks for the Irish that speaks for the Poles and that speaks for the aborigines who were already natives of this land and that is us and then Isaiah, what It's the only thing that What I just said takes us down the path they want us to take.

Well, let's invent a new national anthem that we all agree on and once we do, your next step will be good, so let's propose a new constitution that we all agree on, oh, now let's propose a new declaration of independence and the only thing that I'm trying to tell black people every day like, hey, man, I know it started out bad, but that declaration of independence, constitution and national, it worked for us, maybe it was. It wasn't for us, but it worked for us and for these people who want us to just throw this stuff away and create something new.

It's a game. It's a booby trap. It's no different than the same people who ran the game. through hip-hop again you know what the n-word is now a term of endearment we the kkk are going to give everyone the ending look I can't even listen to that pure

jason

whitlock

stupidity anymore and this is why isaiah even Is continuing like this a waste of time? Because he looks, Jason Whitlock is a buffoon when he says the constitution works for us. No, what we did was make that real. That's what the king even said. He said what the king said on April 3rd. 1968 at the mission temple be true to what you put on the paper, so what black people have done since we came here and told America, this is your newspaper, this is what you put on the paper, be true to what you put on paper the reason

jason

is a buffoon in line is because we and all of you heard me say this 1619 go to 1970 use the 1970s and mark when we are technically completely free we have only We have been completely free Americans for 51 years and we are still not completely free because if we were completely free there would be no reason for today's superior court decision in north carolina if you were completely free there would be no reason for there to be an eeoc if we were completely free there would be no reason for health disparities to be covertly shown in this country when it comes to blacks and whites, if we were completely free we would not have the economic gap that exists now.

Look, all the dealers are here and this is the real reason I say Isaiah. Anyone else, the reason they don't even engage in that nonsense when it comes to the national anthem versus the black national anthem is because they want to put an end to any conversation that breaks down white supremacy and now invokes justice, they don't want that to happen , they want the battle against critical race theory. They want to put, they said it, they want to put everything related to race underneath it, everything related to equality underneath it, because they don't want to change it, you hear, oh no, no, we're like, we'll do it, they're talking about changing some things. good.

Yeah, that's why I have constitutional amendments, some things need to be changed, that's why when you saw the photo of John Lewis and Andrew Young and CT Vivian and Reverend Joseph Lowry, Eric Holder said they're founding fathers 2.0 because, look, no. there was American democracy from regular independence to the voting rights act of 1965, look this is the game that is being played because the reality is white people are born in America, they don't ask what rights they get about rights, we have to have special rules because it's still written for them and this is what I need people to understand and then you don't, Isaiah and everyone else doesn't, if they make more TV shows, they bring that's what after saying that I'm not going to waste my time on that this is this is what Isaiah Jason would have said let's talk about how many black owners are in the suites let's talk about do you have equality with black coaches on the field let's talk about jason how many black people do you have in the press Box I also see that they want us to get caught up in this and black people didn't ask the NFL to play the national anthem, they chose to do it because they got their asses kicked and Colin Kaepernick was recognized in a game so I'm not going to do it. fall for the nonsense of bill maher and megan kelly and the rest of these people we are going to deal with the reality of our position in this country and that, friends, is what needs to happen, let's go right now, uh to uh, our good friend

gerald

horn is the author of numerous books on the bittersweet science, racism, organized crime and political economy of boxing as a professor at the university of houston, in houston, texas, he also has another book that we have talked about on the show, this one He is the right one. that drove all these white people crazy who don't like the 1619 project uh what a cow, it's called the counterrevolution of the slave resistance of 1776 at the origins of the united states of uh america and

gerald

is always happy to have you here, it I was just stating that again we are dealing with history in its history.

America was not created for all men and women to be equal, it was for white landowners and even if you study the constitution today, that is why Jason Whitlock is not. I'm not a complete idiot, today's electoral college was a slave compromise that wasn't democracy because they still wanted to be able to control the white landowners who became president. Well, I have to say I was disappointed in Isaiah Thomas. I know he enrolled at Indiana University, one of our leading institutions, but I guess he must have missed history classes. I guess it was basketball practice, but he's a grown man now and should be aware that history is constantly being rewritten.

Remember that Web Du Bois changed our understanding. of the post-civil war period with its ethical volume black reconstruction and today we have several creators academic writers who are rewriting the history of the united states of america would include haitian filmmaker raul peck and exterminate all the brutes of course nicole hannon jones and the project 1619 and what everyone is telling us is that the traditional narrative that we have been fed by what you just suggested, suggesting that

roland

martin

, basically makes no sense on poppycock, I mean, for example, isaiah

thomas

says that we are breaking up the fact is that we have been separated, he makes known this inaccuracy regarding the US census and how we are supposedly trying to move away from the boxes.

If we go back to the original US census in 1790, of course, it was grouping people according to quotes. depending on whether they were slaves or not, in quotes, like today, the first, wait, let me put in the first US census since 1790, it had racial classifications, we don't vote, that was them, of course, I mean, that's why I was so disappointed, uh. by isaiah

thomas

and I realized that he was speaking in the context of the nba, the national basketball association, and I assume that the nba would want to disassociate themselves from his inflammatory and, in fact, ignorant comments because, in the end, they are quite misleading.

Day and I'm glad to see Rowland you mentioned the thirdstanza of the starry style that in certain terms does not denounce the black population because it remembers that this hymn was written by the slave owner Francis Scott Key during the war with Great Britain. 1812 to 1815 and he was denouncing the black population because the british offered us better treatment and that's why we defected to their side we helped them burn washington dc and then we fled on british ships to trinidad and tobago where our descendants continued to reside and So, Francis Scott Key was very upset by this event, which is why he denounces it.

It's one of the rare national anthems that points out to denounce a significant portion of the citizenry. And and you hear Isaiah talk about status in class and in terms of, you know, in terms of race and black, but the issue for me, that I think it is the most fundamental question, is what is the agenda of the person I am. talking to Jason Gotlock's agenda and I don't know who that fool was that he was talking to on set and Glenn Beck is The Blaze has nothing to do with black liberation and you'll see when you hear Whitlock again talking about oh you know to these people to go from rewriting the constitution to hip-hop, I mean, their arguments are very weak because what do we have to understand when you are a student of history, you are a student of this country, when you are a student of how this was built, what do we we face today and what we have faced since 1619 what we faced during the reconstruction period we faced during the 92 years of Jim Crow where we faced during the blacks doing the civil rights movement of the black freedom movement and since so there's been an unwinding of this very tight knit ball of white supremacy and we've been trying to peel this thing back and unroll it, you break a baseball and if you start, to pull the string and break it, what you're trying to do It's unrolling this tightly coiled ball that has restricted and restricted black people from being true American citizens and when Jason says these things, what really is Isaiah's response. should have been is that changes have to be made because today's police departments were slave patrols yesterday and when you look at their actions today they are rooted in their history when you look at the housing problem in this America, in America, you look to highlight the lack of access to capital all of these things go back to that same document that Whitlock was praising as if somehow that document served as the true piece of freedom for black people, you can't say that was when the document itself It was designed to strangle us this way.

We are having a very serious conversation and I hope that your audience realizes that, as you suggested a few moments ago in the state legislatures of the United States, there is this demagogic attack on what is called critical race theory, now the attacks on critical race theory are really misleading. in fact what you just outlined

roland

martin

in some classrooms particularly in the south right now you could fine a teacher for telling the truth or fire yes or fire and that's why this is very serious because what I'm afraid to say, isaiah thomas and jason

whitlock

were feeding off this right wing ideology that at the end of the day could very well come to bite them in the butt and the fact that they don't even realize it makes it even more disturbing and worrying um I'm going to put my panel here too and uh and look, I talked to isaiah uh and today and I say look, I texted him and told him I'm going to talk about this on the show.

Isaiah supported me. from the show joined our fan club early on and what he said is he said he really wanted to do it, he said the focus should be on these birthrights, so to speak, and that's again if you're white on this. Country, what happens when you're automatically white and we're still fighting these battles? But what I'm conveying is that they don't want us to focus on the black national anthem versus the star-spangled banner. they want us to focus on that, they want to focus on that because really the strategy here generalizes the entire strategy, whether it's this 1619 critical race theory project, anything, it's really about how can we rile up our white base to get them. to think that they are about to take over this and they want to change our values ​​and when people say our values ​​they are not saying our American values, they are saying our white values, they want to change what we have built because America has been built through from the prism of whiteness, has been defined by that and what they don't want is for us now that we have the right to vote now that we have representation in Congress until the end, suddenly oh no, no, no, we don't.

I don't want them to have the chance, no, I changed this and I keep coming back if I play it, they would try, they would block us on YouTube that good shepherd scene when joe petchey asked, he said, let me ask you a question, the Italians. we have our family and he said we have our family and the church, he said, uh, the Jews got this, he said he used the n-word for black people, what you guys got and he said we have the united states of america, the rest of you. you're just visiting, that's what this is all about, well i'm afraid you're onto something roland martin, and once again i have to say i'm a little baffled by the fact that isaiah thomas would say what he said and still be Roland Martin's collaborator without filters when you talk to him, how did he explain himself well?

He just said that what he was, what he was trying to, what he wanted to focus on was again these birthrights and what we don't have compared to white people and and and look i and and and come on but it's also understanding who you're talking to and who you're talking to. facing and what and what is his goal if you talk if jason whitlock said roller coaster show I know exactly what he's trying to do I know who he's talking to know who he's talking to I have a fool that another black guy who worked for Blaze who's been trying to attack me for the last week Twitter trying to ask me all these other questions I'm like dude I'm not playing the game of yolo and he wrote a little article about me oh how I'm selling out blacks to stay on the plantation democratic and I'm sitting there.

I say yes, but it's your party that's trying to stop my people from voting in North Carolina, so I say what I want is African Americans, whether they're basketball players or football players, singers, artists or whatever. Fully aware of this really intensive effort to prevent us from actually asserting our rights because I'm not because I'm telling you, Gerald, all of these people don't fully understand why they have to be asking, wait a minute, how the hell did it suddenly happen? the nfl the nfl and the nba have done it by raising all the voices and seeing before the games before why suddenly now it's a problem who suddenly started the critical races jerry this is my 13th experience with black media , do you notice in the previous one? 12 I never even heard a critical race theory and that's black I've been black three black newspapers tom joyner blackamericaweb.com savoy magazine major broadcast cable network dallas examiner essence ebony i i can continue suddenly where it's coming from I keep telling People, This is all my book White Fear will be published in the first quarter of next year.

It all emanates from this question that was asked in 2009 after Obama's inauguration or who is optimistic about America's future for their country? children, all groups except white Americans, most were optimistic about the future of America for their children, except white Americans, that's what we're dealing with and that's why the Republican party wants to appeal to these crazy people and crazy white people who will be here in DC. tomorrow because they are afraid that we, Gerald, now have political, economic, social power and we are not afraid to use it well. I'm glad you mentioned 918 this demonstration that will take place tomorrow in Washington in support of the January 6 insurrectionists.

Assuring us that there is nothing to worry about, move on, but that's what they told us on January 5, 2021 and they almost lynched the vice president of the United States, they almost lynched the speaker of the house of representatives, nancy pelosi lynch, so I hope that I know what they are talking about regarding this demonstration, this demonstration tomorrow and if they are wrong, I'm afraid to say that tomorrow there will be a hot moment in the old town, uh, well, I don't think it's going to happen. be that because they are Trump Trump has already shouted this is a trap uh and I think they are going to be too afraid to come in I want to bring the panel here and I want to start with you uh michael then go to michael kelly for raji, the thing here again is to understand which It's the goal of a whitlock and that is to be absolutely an agent of white supremacy and what I'm trying to get for everyone, I'm trying to get anyone to know who is talking about these issues, you have to be very careful to understand what is happening.

It's the same reason I got mad at Chris Christie. I'm not going to sit here and praise you for your speech at the Reagan Library about how the Republican Party has lost its way and what it needs to do to move forward and you take these nameless jabs at Trump when you're also complicit because you helped put him in trouble. the power oh absolutely absolutely uh hello dr. gerald horn i'm michael i'm a hotel african history network how are you bro ok ok i met you at the charles museum of african american history here in detroit either of us male 2017-2018 onwards , I'm getting to it.

Coming to it when you've known someone all day, come on, I'm going to get to the question, can you talk for a minute? You know, in the clip we saw Isaiah Thomas talk about class in the census and we know it when we watch. in the census and racial classifications, people who immigrate from the Middle East and North Africa are classified as white according to the US census in the US government, can you talk to us about why they participate ?, how did those particular racial classifications arise, why the people who come from North Africa? Egypt, Libya, are classified as targets in the Middle East.

Well, obviously, it's to increase the volume of the community that defines itself as white. There's a demographic fight going on now, one of the reasons for voter suppression, and I noticed Rowan mentioned the North Carolina decision, which is very important. but one of the reasons for voter suppression and the attempt to ensure in particular that black people do not vote is that the Republican party has morphed into the party of white people, if not the party of white supremacy, but it is very difficult to get people who are not defined as white to vote for the party of whiteness and therefore not only is there voter suppression, but there is also a kind of redefinition, so Ralph Nader, the former presidential hopeful whose roots are in Lebanon, is defined as white in quotes and although I often use the term Euro-American instead of white, in some ways it is a misleading term because of what you just said, because you don't necessarily have to have roots in Europe , you can have roots in Lebanon, for example, and still be defined. as a target, but it's a numbers game that basically plays out, okay, thanks Kelly, uh, yeah, dr. horn, thanks, um, something I haven't really heard in this debate or discussion, more because it's not much of a debate and I think I already know that. the answer but the fact that we don't talk there are four other national anthems that we have outside of um uh our main national anthem we have america the beautiful my country is yours god bless america this land is your land all of them are gifted or announced as a national anthem in this country, not as a national anthem, but certainly as an American anthem, but when it comes to lifting every voice and singing one that is not rooted in any kind of racial prejudice, one that was written by a man black man composed of another black man, his brother, is suddenly a problem, so if you can give us a sense of why you think that is, I think I know the answer, but the fact that there is this stark dichotomy regarding it raises every voice and sings that it is not considered an anthem by anyone outside of naacp and dubs it as one of the other four songs that are certainly played at nfl games and the like, well the short answer and I'm sure you already know that this already is. that black people are treated differently as a separate people, this goes back to slavery when we did not want to be enslaved and therefore we were always rebellious, we were always trying to ally ourselves with the real and imagined enemies of these United States of America, including natives.

Americans, including the British, as I said during the War of 1812, and as a result, when you engage in that type of seditious behavior motivated by a desire to escape slavery, they treat you differently and treat you like a people. apart. I remember when I was at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and I was supposed to be organizing and forming acalled a black cultural center and the white supremacists say, well, that's separate, well, I said, well, if I walk down the street I see a Hillel center that's for Jewish students it's that separate and of course it wasn't considered that It was because they were considered part of the broader white community, so the answer to your intelligent question is quite simple: we are treated as a people apart, in part because of our rebelliousness that dates back to the experience of slavery and before and that's this great article folks um that's um it's called in the Washington Post it's called the ugly region the star spangled banner didn't become our national anthem for a century and one of What the article states is that, First of all, as Gerald said, Francis Scott Key was a slaver, he came from the family that he also enforced as the D.C. prosecutor. he also enforced the slave laws and also recommended his brother-in-law to the supreme court roger taney you know the guy with the dred scott decision uh that touch of everything but what's interesting about this gerald and this is what, of course, uh jason whitlock would never admit because people don't want to understand people no I don't want to accept story, but they won't believe his story and this article states it here.

It's just that Francis Scott Key was not only racist and he believed that black people were inferior in the sense that if they were really free to be sent back to Africa, I guess. how this song became popular, it became popular with post-reconstruction white southerners and the military who pushed for it to become the national anthem. the united daughters of the confederacy, yes the united daughters of the confederacy, yes, they helped, but people want us to act like those things don't exist your question to joel yes uh dr horn it's a pleasure to talk to you uh real quick I mean, I think it was absolutely very ignorant of Isaiah Thomas to say that a song emphasizes our separation when the It wasn't a song, it's been history, it's been something that can be investigated, but even more, I want to know your opinion.

You know, often when we have these big conversations, especially about race, there are often black and white people who jump to the point of talking about unity, talking about reconciliation between the races without really talking about truth and responsibility without saying, "Hey, there's "We have to do some things to repair the damage that has been done to black people in all of this, you know, in the United States." states and around the world, so how do we take this conversation further? Everything is fine, we had a black president, things are going in the right direction, we are all in this together, how did we step back a little to really look at the situation?

The question of let's look at the truth of the story and this is the part that I think scares both black people and white people. Someone has to take responsibility. White people have to take responsibility for what they have done to our people. It's not enough to say. We give it a little bit here, we have a couple of celebrities, I'm talking about a huge adult, you know, large-scale responsibility, how do we get the conversation going in that direction, sir? Well, if you look historically at the way we were. escaping both slavery and the jim crows that we lent them the battlefield we internationalized the fight that's why we were aligned with the native americans, for example, that's why we had paul robeson, for example, and martin luther king jr, who raised the issue of the war in vietnam in that light i was very disappointed to see that in a historic meeting that took place on september 7, 2021 just a couple of days ago a few days ago had a virtual summit of the african union and the caribbean community caricom uh president and speaking were the president of south africa sarah ramaphosa president kenyatta of kenya prime minister motley or barbados laid out a whole pan-african agenda we really haven't seen something of this scope perhaps since the 1945 pan-african congress in manchester england now what's disappointing is that there was no African American participation and it was a wonderful opportunity for us to raise our issues because, of course, they raised the issue of reparations.

The brothers and sisters of the Caribbean know that we are going to raise that and yet we were not there to expand on it. That call, I think one of the things we need to do is get our organizations to try to be more global-minded to try to not miss these opportunities and make sure that we have delegations that meet regularly with the African Union based in Arizona. , ethiopia. and the Caribbean community based in Georgetown Guyana because, as our comments this afternoon have suggested, the forces on the battlefield right now in terms of the four corners of the United States of America, given voter suppression, given that we're talking about coups that could happen as soon as tomorrow it's not a very promising scene just looking at the national level so this is what uh the button is up here is what I want to happen um and that's um and like I said, I spoke to Isaiah, I spoke to uh several other professional athletes who reached out to me and who I also spoke to today about the segment and the various thoughts on what I want us to do as African Americans.

I want us to please read Jackie Roberts' book. I never did it. Because? jackie robinson in the book wrote why he wouldn't stand for the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance jackie robinson the same man who attempted a court martial in the military the same man who broke the color barrier in baseball in the first place the real big leaguers were in the black leagues but they called up the major leagues because that's where the white money was jackie robinson said the reason he saw his book i never did he said because as long as a black man is a victim of racism then I don't I haven't, that's what Jackie Robinson wrote in his own words.

Go read the book every time someone wants to throw Jackie Robinson in someone's face when we want to talk about how we came together, but this last point is the critical point. and I just played the snippet of the interview and if you want to go back and watch the full interview, that's fine, but I need black people to stop hugging each other when they leave, can't we just come together because I need you to understand? What they are really saying. I saw people saying why can't the nation come together like we did after 9/11. Um and the reason I put these two together is because I need you to listen to what I say.

America has always asked. that we put aside our problems so that we can stand together as one America asked our black athletes when you run and box for the United States in the Olympics you are representing America, the red, white and blue, but when Muhammad Ali returned from Rome and walked into a restaurant in Louisville, Kentucky, wearing his American jacket with a gold medal around it, they said you can't eat in this restaurant and that's when he went and threw the metal into the river in an attack of anger, the reason why people want to play. and that's why i don't agree when i saw that clip with isaiah it's when they say why can't we just come together as one why can't we have one song why why can't we just stay united because I can't be united in one song at a game if you don't believe it when it comes to ownership if you don't believe it when it comes to the press box if you don't believe it when it comes to the people who can afford it buy the tickets and candy at the games if you don't believe that when it comes to having black players on the field but you don't have the same percentage of black coaches on the bench you can't ask me to stand here in unity and singing a song if you don't practice that when it comes to housing when it comes to eating when a white person with a high school degree makes more money than a black person with a college degree don't you dare tell me to stick together if you don't want that to happen across the board let me remind you clearly that if you don't understand history, United United threatened to close black newspapers, all you have to do is read Gerald Horne's book. on claude barnett and the associated black press read ethan mccain's book on the chicago defender they threatened to close black newspapers during world war ii because they dared to write about fascism and racism everyone should google this double v campaign search google the pittsburgh messenger and what they created when they said we're going to fight, we're going to fight against racism at home and abroad, they threatened to imprison black editors because they said they were creating tyranny and committing acts of treason for writing about racism in the The US military said now is not the time to focus on racism.

This is where we are supposed to stand as one and history will tell you when the black soldiers returned from World War II and put white German prisoners of war in front of the The history of the black soldiers will tell you that when they returned to those depots In the United States, black soldiers and white soldiers had shootouts because, although they were called up in the same team in Europe, when the white soldiers returned they said: we are going to kill. you and that's why black soldiers were lynched in their uniforms that's why byron della beckwith knocked down an everest beggar and an armed forces veteran in his own driveway so please I don't want to hear that can we be all as one singing a song because If you're not, what if you don't want to support me in the fight against racism, sexism and intolerance?

I don't want to hear anything about you trying to sing a song with me, come on guys, I can't give you anything. 'a whole gerald horn book to write uh to look at go to my computer jerry I have about 4,000 books uh uh go look at them all again I told you all about the slave resistance counterrevolution of 1776 and the origins of the United States of america you should see white supremacy pitted against american imperialism and anti-communism versus the liberation of southern africa from rhodes to mandela uh i also told you the rise and fall the associated black press claude barnett's pan african news the jim crow paradox, i have absolutely read, uh, and that was enough, there's another one here that I must recommend, oh my gosh, where is it? where is? where is? where is? all these dog own books, I'm trying to get to all of them um and uh of course, a couple of books obviously on wb dubois uh and then um, I gotta get, I gotta get this one, the color of fascism, Lawrence Dennis , racial. the demise and rise of right-wing extremism in the united states yes, i have to understand it right there, all of you gerald, it's always a pleasure to have you here, distinguished professor at the university of houston, my hometown, thank you very much, thank you for inviting me yes sir, the video is just one more time to be smart.

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