Die Zukunft nennt sich WASSERSTOFF! Nehmen Sie das endlich zur Kenntnis!

Welcome to another video on my channel today in somewhat difficult conditions in the building, the heating has broken down and 12 degrees is a bit cold, but I have an interesting topic for you, so put on your jacket and go. I know today's title sounds a little strange, that's where it comes from. But not from me either, but from a comment under the video that the cars would disappear quickly. I'll give you the full treaty and then we'll look at it in detail. Complete nonsense. These electric cars are only sold for the tax advantages. There are countless company cars in charge of hybrids that during the leasing period never saw a power outlet.

The future is called hydrogen. Finally, take note. Actually, I'm telling you complete nonsense, of course. I can't completely rule it out but anyone who has followed the channel for a long time thinks so I have verified that my content is based on deep reflection and research. Well, if we had YouTube smell here, the self-praise would probably stink to high heaven, but I think you understand what I mean. What's wrong with electric cars only taking over from company cars due to tax advantages? This statement is absolutely unsustainable. I have already made an additional comment. Video for you on the topic of taxes on company vehicles.

I would like to link it again briefly. Yes, in the case of the self-proclaimed premium German manufacturers, most cars only go through fleets of company vehicles, but that is not at all a phenomenon of electric cars, but valid in general, because I don't think about you as someone who has purchased a new A6 or 5 Series privately. Let's look at sensible cars like the Dacia Spring, so its private registrations are around 80 percent. In Germany, and also for most other vehicles with a good price-performance ratio, there are at most around 50% that were commercially registered only if the demonstrators are also included.

At Tesla, for example, there are around 65% non-commercial registrations. There will surely be tax subsidies, but above all for the very expensive German boxes, which will also benefit from the next point of criticism: hybrids with charging cables in their original packaging. It's possible that the driver has a wall box at home and therefore doesn't need the cable at all, but I agree. We definitely agree that the reduced company car tax for plug-in hybrids should be ended immediately. Let's get to the core truth of the comment, that is, the future is called hydrogen. The word was not only capitalized, but also reinforced with an exclamation point, and the postscript finally makes note of this, also with an exclamation point. and thus elevated to the absolute, write to me in the comments below if you also see it that way and especially why before moving on to the supposedly golden future for the hydrogen car, but first, let's take a look at its past together.

It has long been known that hydrogen is suitable as a secondary energy source, i.e. as an energy storage device: the first fuel cells were invented in the late 1950s and NASA's lunar missions in the 1950s. 60 got their electricity from him. However, all these additions were one thing. Overall, the target performance was quite low for driving large and heavy cars, that wouldn't be enough. In the early 1970s, the so-called oil price crisis could occur, which not only banned driving for several Sundays, but also imposed a speed limit, even if only For a limited time, car manufacturers reacted to This crisis in a unique and incredibly poor way: instead of developing small, light and economical cars, the money was spent on smokescreens: just Google IAA 1975 or Mercedes Hydrogen 1975 and you will find reports about this event in which featured a Mercedes minibus that partially runs on hydrogen in a normal combustion engine and a VW that runs on methanol.

The Mercedes developer then said in an interview that the hydrogen car would be ready for series production in 10 or 15 years. Infrastructure needs to be built. If you now feel deja vu, you are absolutely right to hear exactly the same sayings that Almost 50 years later the construction of charging infrastructure continues to be brought up. Lessons learned from past mistakes are exactly zero. After all, research on the hydrogen car continued. The 10 to 15 years were almost 20, but at least Mercedes developed the nähk1, the world's first fuel cell car ready for series production. There was nothing there because the mb100 bus was full of components, but at least there was something on the sidelines long before the Asians arrived.

Yes, many insist again and again that "I would never drive an electric car. Every tent car, regardless of whether it runs on methanol or hydrogen, is always an electric car. The only difference with the battery electric car is that electricity is not stored in batteries but in the fuel cell. Hydrogen or methanol is transformed. Only BMW had played in the early 2000s with converted 7 models that burned hydrogen in the combustion engine. We will see later why this It's even crazier than the fuel cell. Going back to Daimler, which is the only one here. In Germany they investigated hydrogen cars a little more seriously, they put other Neka test vehicles on the market that were then based on the A-Class, which, as is well known, the shape of its body had been given to accommodate a battery or hydrogen tanks in the underbody, but Mercedes still had the very myopic opinion that it did not have to do anything for the infrastructure, there was never any corresponding vehicle in series, and this was immediately canceled when the nekas were renamed FCL, the last test vehicle, i.e. the GLC Fell, was quietly and secretly buried in 2020.

VW learned in the summer that they had patented a type of fuel cell. together with a German developer. This will be used by several manufacturers and in 2026 only 10,000 units will be produced. I don't know anything about Ford. Opel has at least presented one vehicle through Stellantis. Let's take a look at BMW, as is. well-known, announced a small series of the On the official website of H2 Life, the hugely funded organization that aims to make hydrogen socially acceptable in Europe, we first see the small Franco-German sister vans, which currently not The first vehicles are not yet on the market and next year they will be sold to selected models.

Like the GLC F-Zell, they cannot be purchased for leasing customers. The goal is to produce 10,000 units per year by 2025. They also have something in common with the FCL: they have a relatively large 10 kilowatt hour buffer battery. Since the fuel cell alone is too weak, we will address this topic in a moment. WLT area. My ix3, considerably larger and heavier, with more than twice the power, has more range as a pure electric vehicle than the oh so. We then scroll down the page to find the range of hydrogen cars and find the glcf-zell, which is no longer available, and the only fuel cell cars that can be ordered or bought in Europe are the Toyota Mirai and the Hyundai Nexo.

There is no Lexus, no Kia, no hydrogen-powered Genesis, both companies only have a single car. in their range for their core brands and, in my view, Toyota has made a bad bet for very different reasons, they believed they could make a statement. There are plenty of photos of Hollywood biggies or other super-rich people driving around in the little Prius in the early 2000s. Unfortunately, they overlooked or completely ignored the trend toward purely electric cars and probably believed the Mirai to be similar. to be able to bring trend setters to the market, however, this went completely wrong. 17,000 units at the end of 21 and we sold them all over the world, so not in 2021 but since the start of production in 2014.

We will first put these numbers in perspective and take a look at Hyundai, which was on the market with the ix35 FC eV a. year before the Mirai, but I was never able to reach the expected sales figures. I couldn't find official figures, but the 10,000 units originally planned for 20 13 to 2018 became Total is more like 1000, the successor to Nexo, which has been available since 2019, works a little better, but also took two years to reach 1,000 sales here in Europe. After all, around 6,000 are produced per year and therefore more than the Toyota Mirais; There were probably press reports that Toyota had planned 30,000 cars in 2021 alone, but it seems quite unlikely to me that they would actually achieve it, otherwise the corresponding anniversary reports would be found somewhere.

Let's put this figure into perspective and of course it should be called Tesla, they started out similarly. An ix35 consumes fuel in 20 13, but while the hydrogen car only had about 100 units, the Model S, which was more than twice as expensive, sold more than 22,000 units and only achieved a range of 400 kilometers, compared to the almost 600 hirnai, which A Toyota Tesla also came onto the market that managed to increase its production to 35,000 in 2014 and in that year produced approximately the same number of hydrogen cars that would leave the factory in the following 8 years. of cars are delivered to customers in Shanghai every week, how Toyota Mirai and Hyundai Nexo manage together all year round.

In February alone, the Hyundai i15 sold twice as much worldwide as the Nexo did all year and could they make more ionics? Although the sales figures are probably even higher, but what's the point? In general, why does Hyundai continue to develop the fuel cell? This is also clear from the press release on the nexus shown indirectly above. So, it's basically a waste product like "A research vehicle for larger vehicles. Let's take a look at what this means specifically for hydrogen cars. Hyundai has launched, with much fanfare, a pilot project with powered trucks ​​by hydrogen in Switzerland.

Until 2025, 1,600 H2 trucks should be environmentally friendly Driving in Switzerland, however, turned out to be not very well thought out because there is not enough green hydrogen available to operate such a fleet. Currently, it is still It mainly uses hydrogen to produce the gas, which not only makes it eco-friendly but also very expensive at the moment. The truck also shows a problem with current fuel cell technology: the first ix35 had only 100 kW, the next 120 and then the Mirai at least 135 - compare that to the much cheaper ionic 5. which already provides 120 kW in the smallest version and can be configured up to 239 - a bit surprising, simply because the current fuel cell plugs they still have comparatively weak performance.

We had already briefly talked about the condition of the car, which requires In my case, the Hyundai hydrogen truck looks very similar: it has at least two batteries with a total power of 180 kW, that is, 245 HP, approximately what They have the current seven and a half ton trucks. such as a large truck weighing up to 28 or 40 tons. Older people may still remember the TV series on the go Manfred Krug was initially a Mercedes 1632 from 1977. The two subsequent issues show the performance of the Daimler truck in HP. This long-haul truck, which was built 45 years ago, already had 320 HP.

Nowadays you can often find a 50, 53 or 60 in the rear, even those around 500 HP and Scania drivers. Models 510 to 730 stand proud next to the V8 sign, these are the times when Villas and Meersburg made the streets of this world unsafe and Bud Spencer and Terence Hillmann made their way through wild adventures in the best It's been a while since today , sneaking up Kassel mountains with a truck at 20-30 km/h is not an option, as just-in-time supply chains would collapse even further, of course Hyundai is also aware of this. The Kassel Mountains are on the road, so the engineers came to a very pragmatic solution: a 350 kW engine with almost 480 HP and the typical torque curve of the electric motor was installed on the hydrogen truck, the vehicle is not underpowered. but the problem persists.

The fuel cell can only deliver 90 kW twice, which is of course not enough for the 350 kW electric motor to reach its maximum power. The solution is the problem. Which of you can solve it now? Two trucks I got a battery to support the weak fuel cell, but not just any, there were three long range ionic 5 size packs, that is 72 kilowatt hours each to a monster 216 kilowatt hour battery coupled with it, but the Hydrogen truck needs as much battery capacity as five Opels to work properlyCorsa e or 7 BMW i3, probably the two fuel cells are only used for recharging again, which can definitely make sense because this way you can simply scale the range based on the size of the hydrogen tank, which basically gives us leads to the killer argument of hydrogen car advocates.

The x35 came on the market in the Model S, the issue was really clear. Almost 600 km of range for the H2 car, around 400 for the Stromer, compared to both, of course, were only theoretical values ​​determined in the laboratory. on the road it will be less. The Nexo today even has a range of more than 750 kilometers according to WLTP, the question is what is needed and if it really has any advantage over the electric cars that are now coming to the market with 550 to more than 600 kilometers and perhaps, in First of all, the considerations of a long-distance driver who used to travel 800 kilometers at a time.

In retrospect, something like this is not just stupid, but also harmful and dangerous, even in ventilated vehicles. massage seats, it is very harmful to the health of the body to sit in a forced position for five six seven or even more hours, the possibilities of movement in the car seat are very limited and inevitably, even if you do it yourself, you will not I want to admit concentration problems, as I said, I know very well what I'm talking about. Denying that is simply self-deception every two or three hours because having to stop for a few minutes to recharge is actually self-serving. health and that of others Even desirable with a road range of 350 to 400 km at 120 to 130 km/h and a recharging time of 15 to 20 minutes, we would be in a pretty good point: the first electric cars can do this at at least in summer and development is here to stay yes, don't stand still, yes, yes, I know it's too slow for Germany and we all drive at least 200 or more anyway, but the hydrogen car is not for you either, the Mira is limited. at 175 the jacket the nexus at 180 but we need them The ranges are simply astronomical because we often have to make long detours to reach one of the few hydrogen filling stations.

We currently have 94 service stations in Germany, which are also distributed quite unevenly. If you live in Göttingen, for example, you would have to go to Kassel or Hannover to refuel. In Thuringia or MeckPomm it seems even sadder, the situation is going to get much worse, but for those I am waiting for hydrogen because I want to drive non-stop to the Costa Brava. There is practically nothing down there. There are currently 161 hydrogen refueling stations in operation across Europe. In total, 32 are under construction, there are almost 140,000 conventional service stations and more than double that number. That figure is 330,000 charging stations.

Of course, not all of them are fast chargers, but now you can go to practically every gas station and rest station in Germany and often find there at least a 50 kW HPC triple charger, the famous anxiety range, you can also apply to an electric car that is reasonably suitable for long distances, so with a hydrogen car it always works latently because, depending on the route, you have to go to a very specific gas station or you will be stranded, that cannot happen , you think, just look up the map of the H2 organization and pay attention to the red dots, well those are just a few, yes it's true, but for example, there was a pattern in Green mobility in Norway in 2019 that meant that all the H2O gas stations went out at the same time one exploded I can already imagine what comes next, how it's supposed to explode, what nonsense, I'll show you two very old photos.

I wonder what the airship has to do with our topic, well, it's not just any zeppelin, it's that The Hinterburg with its 245 meters is a giant of the skies and the pride of the Third Reich. He made a transatlantic trip. with the comfort of a sea trip but with the speed of airplanes, which at that time was still possible to think about several times. Unfortunately, this is also what the Hindenburg is like after its last trip to the United States, as is often the case with catastrophes. The accident of the Hindenburg was until that moment the greatest misfortune for the nascent aeronautical industry.

There are several theories about the causes, the most likely being the following: the Hindenburg already arrived a little late due to bad weather in the Atlantic. The captain wanted to preserve the call as a fast and reliable means of transportation, so a storm near the landing site did not fly past, but through it. The huge body was so consumed that some flanges broke and the outer shell was torn. damaged, so some of the stretcher spilled. Plus, the case is worth it. When the storm was very static and reached the landing site of Lak hörst, the maneuver ropes were thrown to the ground crews.

When they hit the ground, suddenly the hull of the airship ground to the ground and sparks formed. The escaping lift gas had mixed with oxygen in the air, forming a highly flammable mixture. The sparks were enough to kill the Hindenburg and with it many people on board and on the ground. In a big ball of fire. Irony of the story, another rumor says that the captain had the order to negotiate with the Americans for the supply of non-flammable helium in the form of swallows. It had long been known that the trucker, manufactured by the Germans themselves, was a real danger.

Of course, as you can imagine, the Hindenburg, like all of her sister ships, was filled with hydrogen and her end was the simple result of an oxyhydrogen reaction. She mixes some hydrogen gas with oxygen and brings any ignition source. nearby and as long as the hydrogen is liquefied or remains in a pressurized container such as in the H2 car or at gas stations, it is completely harmless with a small premium in the tanks, but turning on the lights in the underground car park in the morning is. No, of course, I'm not making the thesis that hydrogen cars would burn all the time, but for someone who is supposedly afraid of electric cars because they can burn all the time, an H2 car would be enough.

It would be nothing, and a combustion engine would not exist at all, because its name says it all. In order to ensure the safety of cars and especially hydrogen refueling stations, it takes a lot of effort to simply mount a powerful transformer and create a connection to the nearest medium voltage line such as with a fast charger or bury some how many tanks on the ground and fill them with normal tanker trucks, a normal gas station that does not run on hydrogen. produce hydrogen directly at the gas station using electrolysis, then the intermediate tanks could be comparatively small and no external supply by truck or pipeline would be necessary, but huge amounts of electricity would be needed and the whole system would be very expensive. which in the end would also make hydrogen much more expensive.

We'll get to current prices in a moment. Currently, the most common service at gas stations is with tanker trucks, but they are very special vehicles because hydrogen is liquid and therefore on - The vehicles must be transported refrigerated at 253 °C, so they also need fuel for their propulsion and a lot of energy for the refrigerated trailer, which in turn is considerably more expensive than a normal tank trailer. Pipeline transportation, which in my opinion probably only applies to a few refueling stations, could be implemented, but regardless of which option is chosen, setting up and supplying a hydrogen refueling station is extremely expensive.

The consequences, for example, have already been drawn from this and two service stations in Britain have closed. Officially they were obsolete systems, but they also clearly say that they are only available. If new locations are to be redeveloped, previously car-only locations would simply never be worth it. Even if you don't casually look at the German hydrogen filling stations, which are the largest in Europe with almost 100 stations, you will notice that they are practically always close to the highway, in my opinion the trip will also take place there, perhaps. There will be some gas stations to fill gaps, but they will also be more or less all located at truck stops next to highways in order to serve as supply points for the aforementioned H2 trucks on long trips, if you are not near one If you live in a gas station, in the future you will have to travel long distances to refuel with a hydrogen car.

Whoever now thinks that this is not so bad, should always take into account what an investment of time and money this can mean. Compared to charging, I only see very few people who are lucky enough to live near a hydrogen filling station. For everyone else, from my personal point of view, H2O only brings disadvantages due to the high I am also very curious to see how things are currently. Hydrogen prices are still heavily subsidized. This year the kilogram has already risen from 9.50 to 13.85 euros. According to WLTP, the Mirai needs 0.76 kilos per 100 km, which is equivalent to about ten euros and fifty, which should also be the case.

Currently, you can still easily undercut it with a comparable electric vehicle. By the way, the energy equivalent of hydrogen is about 33 kilowatt hours per kilogram. If we could use a combustion engine converted one by one, with 1 kg of hydrogen we would reach up to three times more than with one liter of diesel. With the price of hydrogen approximately seven times higher, the cost is even lower. That's why no one thinks about hydrogen combustion anymore, but everyone focuses on the fuel cell. Oh, and on the other hand, some people think that the methanol fuel cell is the latest and the kind that the automobile industry mercilessly suppresses. which already existed in some sewing houses before Ihcenten seriously said that everyone would have switched to hydrogen if methanol was good and while we are at it, let's look at another mystery that I People who reject the electric car but at the same time At the same time, those who believe in the fairy tale of the hydrogen future cannot understand it: either they postulate that we do not have enough electricity for all the cars or that this is too much because our current electricity gets dirty, but how can the hydrogen cars?

First of all, it is important to make it clear that green hydrogen can only be called that if it is produced 100% from renewable energy. There is also blue hydrogen, whose CO2 must be filtered from the Atmosphere Yes, but at the moment it is still in the experimental phase and the currently mostly gray hydrogen, that is, produced with gas, can only be of interest to us for the moment, but how much electricity from renewable energies do we really need for this? I'll show you a graph from VW: In the case of an electric car, we can use 76% of the electricity originally converted from solar radiation or wind for propulsion, in the case of a hydrogen car, it is only the 30%.

In terms of efficiency, it is approximately where the combustion engine is. Let's say we have identical vehicles in a series, the only difference is that the electricity is stored in a battery and generated in the car using a hydrogen fuel cell. The car consumes 15.2 kilowatt hours every 100 km, so we have to use it for 100 km of travel. Providing the electric car with 20 kilowatt hours for the same distance as the hydrogen car is more than 50, that is, two and a half times more. If there really wasn't enough electricity for electric cars, then it would be completely impossible to maintain our mobility with hydrogen cars, but that is what happens despite what has been described Disadvantages of the hype around hydrogen, in my opinion, the unwillingness to change coupled with decades of influence from the combustion engine lobby.

The only reason always given in favor of hydrogen is the fast refueling process, it's supposedly much better, faster and more comfortable than a car, I'm starting to think. that the image that the combustion unit always evokes is that of standing frozen for hours at the charging station and that the relative reality is that when I get home at night, I simply plug in the car and leave with the battery fully charged. mornings and only on long trips Many people cannot or do not want to understand and accept that this is not the case everywhere, I am fully aware that we actually live somewhere in a big city with no charging options.

We also need a lot of luck that there is a hydrogen filling station nearby. At the current pace of expansion, which will not increase significantly due to costs alone, the probability of a charging station being built in your area is tens of times greater than that of a new hydrogen filling station. What should I consider? Hardly any automakers are seriously developing a fuel cell. The infrastructure is at least so advanced in Germany that you can somehow reach anywhere in other European countries, butit is very easy to get stranded, there is a high cost risk, the vehicles themselves are very expensive and hydrogen prices are currently kept low by subsidies and a minimum plus autonomy that will probably even change with the next generation of batteries.

There will be many detours to be able to refuel, compared to the charging process at home, which is considerably easier and more comfortable than any refueling process, the production of hydrogen or, in my opinion, What worries me is that methanol to then use it in small consumers It's a complete waste of energy, which is why hydrogen is the future for long-distance trucks and buses. Could it be a useful addition to trains too? alternative to airlines. Hydrogen-based propellants could also be suitable for airplanes and ships. In my opinion, the H2 drive makes no sense for cars, which is why no one is seriously developing it anymore, I know I can also find similar statements on the Internet.

The more standardized the manufacturing processes are, the cheaper the production costs will be. In 10 or 15 years, the hydrogen car will be as normal as the battery electric car. Until then, however, the infrastructure still needs. There are currently almost 100 hydrogen refueling stations in the country. In all of Germany we would need at least 400. 1,000 would be nice, says the blood of Jung, but we always have to ask ourselves who is making those expenses. Mr. Jung's blood is researching fuel cells at the University of Duisburg, of course, he will not tell you which next one is suitable. His statements should be valued in the same way as the constant smoke candles of the Karlsruhe kit which, by the way, would be the combustion engine of the future.

Remember the 10 to 15 years it takes for someone to build infrastructure that Mercedes' head of development said almost 50 years ago? You just heard it again, that ultimately, today no one can say with certainty what the future will really bring. Electric cars will play a very important role, but it will also be necessary to think about completely different mobility concepts. No, not all of us will be allowed to ride cargo bikes. Something like that seems just as silly to me. to the gas stations for eternity, do not hesitate to write to me in the comments below how you see the mobility of the future.

I'll definitely make another video at some point on how I might imagine it, but for today that's it, again frozen. Stefan Lenz