KEVIN HART ON: The SECRET To Success & Happiness NOBODY TALKS ABOUT (Do This In 2023) | Jay Shetty

The greatest drug is not cocaine it is not heroin it is fame anything you want everything you want is one thing and if you can't handle

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the consequences are severe, do you know yourself and are you okay with yourself if you are not? I'm breaking away from the best-selling author and hosting the #1 health and wellness podcast on purpose with Jay Shetty. Hello everyone, welcome back to the world's number one health podcast by the way, thank you to each and every one of you who come back every week to be happier, healthier and more healed and I am so grateful for

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community that we have here because I get to sit down with some of the most incredible Minds in the world, people who I find fascinating not only personally and professionally but because of the potential and purpose they have.

Today's guest is someone who has been on my list to interview since day one, so it's a very special moment for me. I am very excited. I'm talking about someone, the one and only Kevin Hart, Hollywood's box office powerhouse. He released 11 films at number one at the box office and grossed more than $4.23 billion in global revenue. Kevin has also become a

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ful businessman. He is president of Heartbeat, a global multimedia platform that creates entertainment at the intersection of comedy and culture with the mission of keeping the world laughing together I love that Kevin is also the founder of heartbeat Ventures Kevin is a two-time best-selling author of the New York Times and his first audible original The Decision was nominated for an Audi Award for Best Original Audiobook and I spent my last five walks listening to his new audiobook monsters and how to tame them and I have to tell you and I'll tell Kevin right now because he's sitting in front of me, man, I haven't liked something like that for a long time and I'll tell you why I haven't stopped talking about the different Monsters, the different personalities, with my wife, with my team, with my colleagues.

You've made it so relevant and accessible to talk about your flaws in a way I've never seen before. So thank you so much for being here, man, and thank you, so grateful to be sitting with you, thank you and you know, you know, when flowers are thrown, I think they should, sometimes they should be returned and in this case, man. I'm here for a reason, the work you've done, the

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you've had, it's groundbreaking. Congratulations to you. I just want to say that there is an equal level of appreciation and enthusiasm for the moment that you have made. some, a groundbreaking podcast, your guests, about how you have people open up the conversations that you've had, most importantly, you know, the lives that you're saving by just being transparent and authentic and true to who you are, I think.

It's great, so it's an honor to sit across from you. I'm excited about the conversation. And it's one that's been on my list too, so I'm glad you know we finally figured it out. It's where We can make this happen, yeah, thanks man, that's very kind and it's really beautiful to hear that from you honestly, so let's dig in before we keep going back and forth with roses, come on, let's get it, you know, one of the things I want. Start and this will take us anywhere and everywhere. How does it feel when you're winning and then you find out you have monsters?

Because that's the journey that you've been on and I want to go back and forth on this journey, but I want to start there, what does it feel like when you're winning, you're succeeding, but all of a sudden you're going. I still have monsters there. You know when you say and use the word monsters? Just for clarity so that people can understand, of course, we are talking about the different levels for you, right and within the levels that I have discovered in myself, of myself, you know that you have your good and bad versions and A I call the bad versions monsters, but just because they are bad doesn't mean they don't have good quality and when you are winning and you are successful there is the idea that everything is good, there is the idea that perfection is Now, show up in life and moving forward will just be an easy road um and it's not until you're in that position where you expect perfection and you think that's what you start to see that the real problems and flaws actually present themselves and you know.

My monsters have been masked in costume and in various different ways, but I have been able to identify them over the years, because some of those monsters grew, they became stronger, they developed, you are talking about the world of an ego. the idea of ​​who you think you are versus what you are or um, the idea of ​​expectations and needs as to what you feel like you need and what you have to have, that's a monster that's fueling that entitlement, that engine of good now. . that I'm making money this is what I should have this is what I should look like this is what I'm supposed to be that's a monster you're feeding because ultimately you're buying something that you're creating yourself You're improving this world of thought and It's not until you sit down and take a breath and start to really start to discover the true definition of

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for yourself that you start to really understand the adult. that you have grown up in and the level of maturity that you have now, I guess you can say that you have been deposited within the human being that you are, you are depositing a lot over the years and ultimately you are shaping and molding yourself. to yourself. this this is grounded, hopefully, this grounded individual that you're proud to look at in the mirror at the end of the day.

I had to start. I had to get to a place where I was looking at myself in the mirror and was proud of what I was looking at and was okay with checking myself. I was okay with pointing out my flaws. I was okay with knowing if I'm doing it right and what I'm doing wrong and at the end of the day there are no consequences for always improving, there are no consequences. a Grow, you are in an era where people almost disapprove of the world of growth. I embraced the world of Correction, so the monsters in the world of how to tame them came from me understanding the different levels of monsters that were presented. me over the years and me getting them to a point where I put them in a place where I could control them, they're still there, they can lift their heads, but I can tell they sit, it's not necessary, it's not necessary, and I can tell when someone is trying to take me back to a place of yesteryear, but at the age of 43 it is exciting to know that I have grown from so many things and you know that the world of desire is significantly different from what it was before, it's really interesting, you use the analogy of looking in the mirror and being okay with yourself and when you said that I was thinking, yeah, when you look in the mirror there are no trophies, the reflection doesn't show the trophies, win the money and anything else. it just shows you and the fact that you had the courage to look at that, where do you think when you step back?

I have always been fascinated by the memories we keep from our childhood and that they have left a very strong mark on our lives, whether positive, challenging, whatever it is, what is a difficult childhood memory, do you think it has been the catalyst of so many things in your life? Is there something that you come back to that you're like I can see how? That and I had to turn it into something positive. I think the biggest memory for me is being complacent, you know, as a kid. I wasn't really a child who accepted the world of challenges.

He was very accommodating. It was good. with being a mediocre or low average student, right, I was okay with not trying, I was okay with not giving it my all and I was pretty okay with doing well, so the biggest memory I have from my childhood is when I got to that. The early teen years, 12, 13, 14, being sneaky and thinking that you're constantly outdoing someone was that, that's what I was embracing at the highest level, do your homework, I did it, did you really do it? your homework, I did it and? you're taking my word and you don't check my homework oh i didn't do it but you think i did pass it uh ultimately you're slowly deluding yourself over the years and it's not until you realize you check why that job was necessary and you realize that you're just not doing what you're supposed to do with your life, right, you're not, you're not giving it your all.

I had a lot of different examples of that, really. I had a mother who made sure that I had it and I didn't take advantage or accept the real work that she did until I reached an older age of true understanding, but to be honest, I really threw a lot of of those things aside from extracurricular activities, swim teams, soccer teams, basketball teams, track, baseball, all these things that as a kid you don't understand that your parents are doing to try to give you a world of opportunities that are trying. to keep you busy, they're trying to adopt this idea of ​​hard work, effort, activity, participating, they're doing all of those things or all of these things to their kids or hopefully the right thing for their kids to put their kids in a position. to simply want what is right.

I want the best competitive study learn to be excited about your future that light bulb went off late fortunately when it went off it went off at the right time and I was able to identify many things that I couldn't then and also fortunately that many of the lessons that my mom constantly instilled in me about that you don't start things that you're not going to finish, you don't give up, you apply everything, do this or don't do it, you're not fooling anyone, but all these things that I heard over time there was a moment when I became older , it all hit me at the same time, but the real memory for me now, looking back, is that I'm glad I saw it.

I'm aware of that because not being aware of that is the biggest loss, thinking that I made the most of it, thinking that I really applied myself or tried, thinking that 100 percent would be the real loss, so one of my best memories is Know that. At one point I was a slagger, you know, I was the guy who wanted to look like I was doing, but I never was, unless it was something I loved and embraced, and you know it was basketball, but the chances of me making it They were very slow. but you know, that's to answer your question, it's a stage of those memories that I look back on now and cherish, but they also act as fuel for the hard work and one hundred percent that, you see, I put into everything I do.

I do today, yes. It's a big rethinking of what you saw as a major loss. I think it's very powerful for you to sit here and say, "I'm so happy I could see that I wasn't doing my best because that helps who I am." Grateful to my mom, she helps me understand it from a different perspective and the only thing that came to mind when I heard you say that is that there is this quote that says: "The day you realize that your parents were right, your children tell you." you say you're wrong, wow, and that's always been one of those statements where I think for myself I thought my parents were wrong my whole teenage life and I think most teenagers do and then all of a sudden , I hit myself.

I'm in my twenties and I'm like, oh wait a minute, my mom's been through a lot, you know, my parents made a lot of sacrifice, so I love that you brought that up. I mean, one of the reasons we delayed this show was you. You lost your father recently and when I heard the news you obviously know my love and condolences to your family and me. He was watching what you were sharing and commenting on and there was one thing you said that really stuck with me. uh and you said my kids really think I'm the coolest dad on the planet.

I know why I am the way I am. My father has a lot to do with that. The mistakes my father made. You know, the decisions to use drugs. in and out of jail in and out of their lives I saw firsthand what not being present did so now I know what it means to be present I know what I can do I know what effect it can have when your child is born, but it sounded obvious, when you lost your father recently, it sounds like you've reconciled, like you feel some kind of connection, you know my dad and I, we weren't the closest, um, but no, we weren't close, my dad.

At the end of the day, I will love my dad simply for being my dad. Now my dad's life, you know, had several different versions of drastic downs, a small amount of ups, but a lot of downs. I can sit here easily. and ridicule or judge my dad for the mistakes he made or his past, but that doesn't mean anything. I don't like, I don't like to focus on probably my focus on the solution. Yes, that's how it was with my dad and me in our relationship. it's always a solution like you can't go back and fix the years you weren't around, there was nothing we could do at the time, we can have a conversation about it, we can talk about it and then me and my dad talking about it most important was that you don't have to focus on what you can't change the fact that you are here now and that you made the decision to get clean to change your life it's never too late my dad was you I know he was over 50 at the time where he said: I'm going to go ahead and figure it out and I'm going to close that door and I'm going to work on this other door.

This door here was, as I said, jail. drugs in and outof his children's lives, to the point where you know there was a time when I didn't know where my dad was and I ran into my dad on the train. I tell a story. I ran into my dad on public transportation in Philadelphia like I hadn't seen him in years. I've seen my dad randomly and my dad was. so embarrassed that he got on the train and ran but it's like that's where that world was in that relationship and what I do very well I don't hold grudges or complaints it takes too much time it takes too much energy things will work themselves out, never no They have it, it always solves itself, I mean, my dad solved it well as if it were the grandchildren and our relationship improved when he took the opportunity to be a great-grandfather and watching him try to do it right was his. way of saying I wish I could have done this right for you I can't like it I know what you're saying without saying it sometimes no, you don't need words, although some people do, sometimes your actions are a little better and the actions of my father um and trying his best to be an amazing grandfather made our father-son relationship so much better and you know there was a lot of conflict between my brother and my father and seeing those men over time and just saying look, I'm not supposed to be here, dad, look what your son has done, look where I am, I can.

I want to make sure you get to see some great things in life. Here, let's do this and take. that and living like that and doing it things take care of themselves his reward for giving his energy to something positive and life changing was that his son was successful in his son saying dad eh, he didn't expect that wasn't the plan, you have a great piece of light at the end of that dark tunnel that you didn't expect that I didn't expect because I didn't expect to be here so everything turns out okay, yeah, and you know, and losing my father is when you look back and say, he was okay, like me, my reflection, my conversation, my words when I speak on behalf of my father, they are so positive and great because he did it well.

I'm fine, he turned out fine, mom, dad, you did it. well, whatever you did to put any recipe in this pot, the food came out well. I am a good person, I have a good heart, I treat people with respect, ultimately I want the most that I can't get out. of life I love to love I'm a good guy Am I perfect? No. I have some of those imperfections there. I have some of the ones here for my man. Dad. Okay, that's life, of course, I'll figure it out, but I. find out without wanting or needing a problem, that's true, man.

I mean, I hear you say that what I really appreciate is how you're changing our perspective again, that we often feel that in order to heal what was broken it needs to be fixed and actually, what you just said is seeing him try with the grandchildren, that It's not even the area that needed to be repaired or that was broken, but seeing that starts to create some healing, that's the best example I can ask for, yeah, because it's not about us, like me and my ex-wife, we came to a point of understanding, you know, after having a significant amount of ups and downs, you know, after our divorce, we got to a point where you realize that it's not about us like we did it, we did it. our opportunity and now we are adults, how we choose to live well as adults, that is the choice we make, but we are trying to make the best decisions for them to have a better life, so it is about them when I see someone making the effort. to improve their lives well so we are on the same page we have the same vision we have the same vision yes yes it's not about us right now it's not about us as a generation right now it's about us trying our best to doing things to create change to move the terrain, changing the gears so that they have a much better chance than what we did, yes, that is the world of the baton being passed correctly and if you understand that and have that mentality, you get closer to your day to day life differently and I have that mindset and it's one thing I'm very grateful for and through the things that should be problems that were supposed to be problems, I've never held on to them long enough and by the way, just going back to square one, that's a monster, that monster of resentment, that's a monster that I will get you back.

I'm going to wait, just watch, I'm going to hold on to that and I'm going to show you or I'm going to show you or I'm not going to talk to anyone here who is a monster, so you can feel like that monster or that monster doesn't have to exist in me. It's actually really interesting to hear that perspective again because you know one of my favorite lessons I've learned is that often what's holding you back is something you hold on to. Yes, it's one of my favorite lessons. The idea that something holds you back is that you hold on to it.

So whether it's a grudge like you say "The Grudge Monster" or a feeling, an emotion or an idea that you don't allow to let go when it no longer serves you and being able to walk away from that takes real strength and courage, but one of the things What you said about yourself and your partner, your ex-wife, that I think is really powerful is that when it's just about us, whoever it is, you either look at each other or you look beyond each other. another and what you just said is that we are now looking in the same direction when it comes to children and that change if you think about any relationship in our life when we think it's just about us when it's not about anyone else, always You are We will be against each other, but as soon as there is a higher purpose or there is a commitment or there is a value that surpasses it and understanding and understanding, yes, an understanding that comes with the world of communication and great dialogue, I can know and have this conversation.

I can point to many examples of how it's so hard to see the good if you only see the bad, like there are so many people who struggle with their version of success because they're looking at someone else's, there are so many people who struggle with their world or relationship because they judge theirs based on someone else's right and when you are constantly in the space of not realizing or not noticing your world, your reality because you are living in what seems to be someone else's well. It's never going to be okay, it's never going to be okay, like I'm looking at everyone's relationship with their dad and I'm going to want that, yeah, well I'm not embracing the world of good that came from my dad, I could have kept going. the path my dad took.

He could have easily gotten caught up in the same world of, you know, drug gangs, violence, mugging kids, like they embraced The Hood. At the highest level, it's not that I don't, because I do. That's where I came from, but I could have accepted it at a much higher level and followed in my father's footsteps because that's what he did. But I was able to realize the mistakes he made. I could go. I don't want to go down that street because I see the consequences. It's a choice I made well. By the way, some don't make that decision.

No disrespect to those who didn't. It's to each their own. what you want based on who you've seen or what you want to be true, live your life, ultimately we have one, live it for yourself, live it the best way in the best space where you feel you can win , that's my motto. I'm not here to tell you the good and the bad. What I'm saying is that I identify things differently and make decisions based on examples that I can consider are not bad, but that if I didn't have them, I could have done them. I made that mistake yeah so without a lesson that was intentional my dad is lecturing me yeah right it's not intentional my dad never said I went to jail so I didn't have to do it yeah I never You said that, but hey man, seeing you in jail, that's my wisdom, yeah, well that made me realize I don't want to go there, yeah, hearing you talk about it, hearing how many times you did well, no I want to go there, see what the drugs did to you and you talk and tell the stories what you lost what you had what you don't know well I don't want to do that okay you know I'm going to hug my father I'm going to hug this imperfect human being because I'll be damned if it's not if he's not positioning me for personal success and just understanding what I should and shouldn't do and it seems so logical it seems like common sense but sometimes it's not so easy for the son it's not so easy yes and sometimes what I am hearing is that sometimes the greatest wisdom is not said or intentional, like some, sometimes the greatest wisdom is not what someone told you and sometimes the greatest wisdom is knowing what not to do.

I think we think of it as if knowledge or learning means someone. telling me what to do and they told me the right thing to do sometimes is to look and say well I know what not to do and what I'm fascinated to do I think you're going to give a lot of Hope to people listening to you today because when you say that you were complacent growing up and Today I consider you probably one of the most attractive working people in entertainment from what I see and observe, and when I've seen your interviews or listened to you, you work very hard, you give it. you're all you're invested in from a mission purpose standpoint, but hey, wait a minute, this person says I was complacent growing up and it's never one moment, it's never one thing, so I don't even want to simplify it. with that kind of I wonder what were the changes that had to happen for you to go from being complacent to being one of the most attractive working people who is committed to something that I'm big on, like, um, logic, right, and there's this, there's a moment I had where I kept saying why I don't like it why right and uh Russell Westbrook is a good friend of mine.

I make fun of him all the time because anyone who says he has that, wishes he had or wishes he had made it to Primera. why isn't it okay and it's so cool it's so cool it's so simple but so profound that you don't have to have just one job and work any job and if a job is nine or five or if it's half a day full day, whatever whatever, you don't just have to do one thing, you can do a lot of different things, but there's a weird mentality that a lot of people have that you can only do one thing and when I realized that I don't have to do just one thing.

I can do many different things. You can be good at a lot of different things, but you don't know you're good at a lot of different things unless you try a lot of different things. and when I looked around and realized how the world turns, everything is based on creativity, everything is based on ideas, everything is based on opportunities that are thought-provoking and then innovative, but the simplest things emerge from an idea of ​​your chair to your table to your will to your light bulb to your car to your plane to your helicopter to the idea of ​​a hotel from hotels to a place from people who rent houses and airbnbs to taxis to then people who drive their own cars and these are all ideas and the innovative thought that I had when realizing all these ideas is that these ideas have the potential to touch the sky if a person believes that they can do it if a person believes that they can do it well their world of ideas changes their reason to get Explain your reason for putting your feet on the ground every morning.

It can change if you believe that the purpose you have now and are working towards from an idea is something you can succeed at. I understand that understanding and attached it to everything I tried to do. I didn't set out to be the actor, the director, the writer, the producer, the CEO, the president, the advisor. I didn't set out to do anything and I'm going to make it very clear. I don't have the academic training for any of these things, what I had was an idea to try and after you had an idea to try, what I had was the patience to sit and listen, be a sponge, learn to figure it out, um, and discover it.

There was another side to not being okay with the incomplete version of figuring out what I didn't do right, why did I go and ask all these questions if I'm not going to try now that I know how? Yes, okay, leave it. let me try the only consequence is failure um by the way not trying is failing yeah well I'm going to make it very clear here not trying is failing there are a lot of things that people can't do simply because you've never done it I tried to do it and I'm not saying that you should try everything.

I'm not saying you're supposed to do everything. I say it for myself when someone says something and I'm leaving now. I never did that hmm, I have. have a reason why I've never done it and a justification, if you ask me something I say no and you just say why and I say, um, that's not good enough for me, yeah, yeah, I like to have a reason why and that is. the foundation that I stand on that's how I built this mentality this this level of energy to keep going um reason that rhymes inside me why hmm why not yeah it's Russ again I love you to death my brother is the one It got away from me and You're a genius for saying it because it's so simple, yes, but at the same time so deep, yes, so everything that I'm doing or what I'm trying to do is because I started a lot of things and I'm just trying to finish them, yeah and I like the fact that I'm 43 and I still have energy behind what I'm trying to do, yeah it seems like it's where what you're going to do isn't as important as who you're growing into that direction oh my gosh , like the person you're evolving into the things you have to learn, the things you have to be surrounded by and I think that'sthe part.

What excites me is that yes, like you said, whether you get there, whatever there is or not, and it's not just the journey and the destination because I think that's the old cliché, but what I really hear from you are the person who Become the people around you to achieve this great goal that is so satisfying and the pursuit is worthy, right, the pursuit is

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, it is everything. Yes, like I've said this before, you'll hear a lot of people say it. that come from where I come from, the bottom or what's considered the bottom, we're not stereotypically supposed to be in the rooms that we're in and when we say there's a comfort level, right?

He's supposed to be in these rooms and it's kind of cliché when you say it, when you start walking into these rooms you're like, "wow, why aren't we supposed to be okay?" It's so amazing when you get to the other side, you see the other side and you look back and just see what you've grown from the conversations that I can have the knowledge that I can speak with and the understanding that I understand, not because it's a trained machine and I have spent all of this time preparing myself and you know this is what the idea of ​​Education was based on, no, the idea of ​​Discovery improved the muscle that made me want a lot more information in the space of life I chose love. so, an entertainment and business, the level of failures that I have had and still continue to have in some aspect, the world of fixing cleaning, making a better understanding, growing, building relationships, it is there, there is nothing more intriguing to me to be able to turn around. and look at Kevin at 22 and then look at Kevin at 43.

This wasn't the plan, what are you talking about? Every day is a new day and every day I found something else to be excited about. Every day I found another goal. which I decided to attach to my tree and that tree has so many branches right now and so many people say you are doing so much or why you do so much how you do so much what is the what is the end of the game what is the goal of the game is to be in the game as it is to be in the game the foundation that I'm doing my best to create I hope and pray that with these four kids that I have they look at it and see that I understand that we just had an opportunity to do something different.

We have an opportunity for generational wealth. We have an opportunity to change the quote-unquote trajectory within our opportunity culture. We have a chance to make this normal once again. I'm looking beyond myself. I'm looking at I'm looking at the most important part of the plan. My kids had a greater opportunity to blaze trails to make this normal because other kids who looked like us, who came from where we came from, and who grew up the way I grew up. Now I will have a different level of Association for what can be achieved if it is based on what I was able to do.

I am igniting a different level of thinking, a different level of desire, a different level of motivation and inspiration. I am inspiring. on an absolutely different level but I get there and at the last second I miss it and I fall I get there I get there and all it does is show you that you can get there, you're not going to fail it and you can go further. They can go further, they are not going to fail, yes, they are equipped with many of the weapons that I have equipped you with along the way, so that you are prepared for all this war that is coming here, you are not going to get lost. that could fail that could fall you're not I love that and the kids that come under them aren't going to miss them but you have to have this energy yeah it's bigger than me what is that what's that mentality you're trying? to pass on to the next generation to your children, to the children who ended up in that, because it seems that while you were honest and said look, I didn't know I was going to be a writer director or an entrepreneur or a CEO, I didn't have These I didn't have education like you said, but it sounds like you have something, you have a very clear mindset, we know that, but there are some basic skills here that you seem to have invested very deeply in and that you are trying to pass on to us if you could narrow it down to one, two or three for us, what would you say are the skills you have?

That's how I want my kids to be able to operate in this world and that's what they need. The best skill I have developed is the ability to notice and understand that nothing is done by a single individual, no level of success is achieved by a single person, thus, there is a team effort that goes from the smallest moment of success to the largest. big, yes and the person who wants rewards and praise for everything and does not accept the world of the team and the foundation that lies beneath whatever it is is a person who will not last long, something for which I am most grateful and Lo What I'm glad has improved over time is the world of inclusion with the Wii, there is no I and I hope that's what I'm passing on to my kids, is that you don't know anything.

It happens, everything is earned and for things to be earned correctly, you know that you have to surround yourself with people with whom you can not only win, but also support and accept you along the way. I have an incredible team, my team is growing. Let's be the stars of tomorrow, from executives to creatives, talents, writers, producers, directors, everyone under this heartbeat umbrella. The brand companies and the brand partnerships and the entertainment space and this ecosystem within the media that we have created. flourish because they flourish and knowing that identifying that and doing my best to support it is what I've had to work on and when we talk about monsters, Jay, there was an eye monster, yeah, there was a, I need to do that.

Yes, I'll make the call, call me first. I have to I am a ship. I know everyone needs to move. Careful. I'll show everyone how to do it. I'll take the meeting hit. We won't do it. Hearing that, we'll do it my way, it was heavy for me. I I I got the way Kevin, get out of the way and let other people be cool, they'll only make this bigger, you're banning it by trying. standing in a great moment so people can look at you and point at you, let other people do what they were brought here to do and as they do it, align yourself with them, hug them, support them and as they grow, we grow, yeah.

That's what I flourish the most and that's why the first thing I asked them, yeah, think about it, the first thing I asked them when we were listening was how to set up, I said how long have you been together, yeah, that's just I'm asking it because I want to. see what your team's world is, yes, and when you say what you say well, it is no coincidence that the level of success comes with a relationship that has evolved from one day to the next, yes, it comes with an understanding that comes. with a level of community, most importantly a desire for success, we have it together because we are embracing the world, it's not just one, I love that you went there, man like that, there could have been so many ways to answer that question and the fact that you brought him back to being bigger than you, I mean that mentality, I mean, that mind says it all, but it's easily overlooked because we grow up in a dog society, we grow up in a you versus society.

I. I feel like when I talk to people in the entertainment industry for years too, especially if you were a minority or a person of color, you were pitted against the absolutely only other person of color, so it's like there can only be one person of color. , comedian, can only be a person of color. actor, of course, like everything was divided and then you talked about this, I already talked about this, it was oh wow, you know, Dave Chris, we're very close, yeah, and I love seeing that, that makes me happy, the reason why That it was so close is because you know there's no competition, we're not competing with each other and you know we all have different levels of success, that makes sense to us, like one success has nothing to do with the other, yeah, and the support. the love that we give each other that we hold each other with is all done with the understanding that we can all exist at the same time, yes, and the conversation that there can only be one is one that we have created as a culture as you know, really we pit our own against our own right, we really have over time and by the way, there's nothing wrong with competing, there's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be the best, there's nothing wrong with that conversation, but It's a conversation that can be had and should be had without malicious intent behind it, because ultimately success is success and that's what you are, that's what you're in the game for, yes, to have some kind of level of success that checks the box. for you, yes, and you know once again if you look across the street and see what everyone else is doing there or you're missing what you've done here and I'm just something I think about The flow of time It has developed, uh, it didn't start like that.

I definitely was once again and, to be transparent, I was a young comedian who was like man, when is he going to touch me? Yes, I'm funny, I'm funnier than me. I need that, I don't understand, oh my God, no one wants to go through that like you and rightly so, so there is frustration in not knowing or not understanding why my opportunity hasn't had or there isn't frustration in that, but there is also a feeling of calm. That comes with the confidence of knowing that you're working for a reason and it's going to pay off, yeah, and I had to make that change, yeah, I had to make the change of saying I'm working, am I showing up every day? day and I am prepared and if this opportunity comes, am I ready for it? because there is nothing worse than this and I don't have a set.

I don't have five minutes tight. I don't have a tight 10. I didn't have a 25 minute set oh my god they wanted to clean stuff I didn't have any clean stuff there's nothing worse than not being ready oh my god so you know what I'm going to do I'm going to do the work and make sure you're ready let me go to Take these acting classes before you even get an acting role. I'm sitting in a fucking acting class. I'm spending a little money. I got individual sessions because I wasn't there. I don't feel comfortable being in class.

I had to get the space of comfort. I don't have any paper. I haven't had auditions yet. I'm doing the work so that when I get there I don't have to back off and Do it, yeah, I love that mentality, I think it's very underrated. Are you ready if the opportunity comes? Are you ready? And two things I took away from that, the first was something you said about you, Chris and Dave, that and me. I love hearing about that friendship, it's so beautiful to hear that. I read something by Bob Iger where he talked about how at one time Spielberg, George Lucas and I think it was Tarantino, they showed their movies before they went anywhere, so I would sit in this little theater or whatever, they showed their movies. movies, they would give each other feedback and then everyone would release their movies and of course all those people are, you know, I mean icons and it's amazing because you think.

They were so confident in who they were and what their style was. I mean, a Spielberg movie doesn't look like a Lucas movie and a Lucas movie doesn't look like a Tarantino movie. They were so confident in who they were and what they brought to the table. the table they might even show off their best work. I trust your level of understanding of the opinion and the story in the highest regard, although we do not share the same love for genre material, whatever you want to call it, be it sci-fi to drama and action as these are all like you said different people but you know the story, you know the character.

I trust you will be able to see my project. Tell me if my characters are easy to track and if you care about them. I don't care, I also trust that you can tell me why you felt not. I also feel like in the solution space you're not going to throw things at me that aren't feasible. I know the context of what I have, I'm working with what's left on the Cutting Room floor, what I can do to reshoot, all you're going to tell me is in regards to having my best interest, that It is trust, that is also a strong relationship and a friendship that along the journey to success, as we all reach the top of this mountain, we understand that your position on your mountain has nothing to do with mine. .

Dave Chappelle has made Chris Rock and I feel stupid at times when When it comes to our choice of material, we've seen Dave in our previous stages of just working on our set and we'd spend time with the salesman and one would come and We would all go and Dave would go up and Chris and I would just go. We get up and we're happy with our material, we give each other notes, we look at Dave, there were times when we looked at each other and balled up our papers and said we have to start over, we have to start over, yeah, no for of jealousy or envy no, because we challenge each other and we, we, light up and amplify the world as if we want the best for not only each other but for ourselves yes and you inspire me and you encourage me and I love the report what do we have because we do exactly the same thing yes I think my time is ready I want you to come see me Kristen what do you think yes Kev I like it but I still think you can Kev come see me.

I'm doing an hour and 40 right now, hour 40. Yeah, yeah, tell me what you think. I'll probably cut him 20. I like where he is. I'm coming Dave, what's up, come to Ohio, noYou like what I'm working on, I want your eyes to be good like this, it's a strong relationship and it's one that I accept and celebrate often, man, I celebrated it. I often think it's very important for people to see other artists at this level simply celebrate each other's success. I love it, whether it's rappers, singers, actors, actresses, comedians, writers, directors, whoever. I love seeing a room where there are people celebrating. each other mm-hmm we are all part of a fraternity and you know that if we treat it well, that fraternity will have an incredible position forever, yes, of course, you don't want to attach bad stories to it if we don't have yes and I think that's the most inspiring for kids because when I think about the younger generations, if you grew up watching your favorite people and you knew they were all friends, how does that change the game now?

Because if you're watching your favorite people fight each other and fight for the crown, what are you going to do with the person sitting next to you at school? what we do in this space, but you saw so many people approaching it from the perspective of let's see who does it better, let's see who does more and again I love what you said, competition is not a bad thing, let's not give it a bad name. but the idea that we have to be able to hold two truths we can compete and still be friends, still be friends and I think people would be friends, yeah, you have to choose, but yeah, you know there was a time when uh the US men's swim team, the Olympic team, this team was so Elite and this is on phelps like yeah, Phelps was Phelps, a human fish, right, but when you look a lot and you look at the other men that were competing in that team and him I looked at the world of competition between themselves, those practices were more than just practices, the world of training before the Olympics and the battles that took place in those pools where they prepared and were side by side every day when I tell him.

That atmosphere is one that no one else can understand except those who are competing to be great, by the way, at the end of each practice they would come out and shake hands without me being here. I'm willing to take a gamble and say good. When you push me today you kick my ass today hey tomorrow man I'll see if I can cut my time down. I'm not happy with my 200. I'll go, I'll do it with you, I'll push you, hey my The back bump is whatever Hey, you know what today? In those 50 we did the repetitions.

It seemed like you got stronger along the way. Well, I saw you next to me, that motivation, that motivation that you're getting from being next to someone who is in quotes. the best or the best, in quotes, you're using it as fuel, that's not bad, but in an interview you never saw them have any type of relationship that seemed like there was animosity or anger towards one's success, the happiest people to Michael Phelps was the people on this team, the happiest people were the people who got the silver that were on his team, yes, for me, the feet are the mold in the formation of true champions, right, yes, that is the mold in training, as if You are in this and you have said that this is what I am destined to do and that I am going to give it my all and every day.

I show up 100 percent, regardless of the outcome. I will show up one hundred percent that day. I'm going to come when it comes I'm going to be ready It's going to come I'm going to get my just by doing my satisfaction like need and energy and desire by knowing that I just fulfilled for myself that's what I compete with that's why I look in the mirror yeah , sometimes I get disappointed because what I'm trying to do I should know I can't remake it yeah, sometimes I'm chasing what can't be redone again sometimes lightning in the bottle strikes once You're not going to get that again.

There are times when I am so hard on myself that I miss out on the moments of success that I should realize I am having. Yes, because I'm chasing this. Yes, it's a moment I was in. doing two shows and Arenas one night four shows in the city and arenas as a comedian back on tour next I only do two shows oh my god I'm falling what's going on no sell out six seven shows Madison Square Garden what I'm doing I feel bad because I didn't do it again, that's not going to happen again, that was lightning in the bottle, you have to get to a place of understanding and realization, but once again it's the monsters, man, yeah, it's the monsters They are monsters, yes. you talk about this in the audiobook and I loved it, it was about addiction to number one, yes, it's this idea and you'll love it.

I saw a study that said because you mentioned the Olympics, it picked up on my brain. There's a study I saw that said people who win bronze are happier than people who win silver because the people who came in second place were so close to First, oh my god yes, but the person who came in Thirdly, he was happy, he was like us. I'm not going to be first, but we go in, we go up to the podium and it's that podium syndrome of at least we go up, but in the second, the person in silver is angry with himself, yes, because they didn't get number one, yes, and for that's that addiction.

Number one is so strong it's a bigger addiction when there are multiple versions, yeah I'm guilty of multiples like, okay I need it, it's got a motion picture in the box so I need it, I need number one, No. get number one I'm going to fail like I fail you failure I don't get number one out of five it's a failure I have to get one yes, it's one or a flat there's no middle ground yes, it's one or five like I've always done type of one, it has to be number one, yes, what happens is that you are so unrealistic in expectations and you are missing out on true success now.

I've been lucky and blessed to have a lot of them but I got to a place where the wind was attached to the project the wind was attached to me finishing a film and being happy about the film I made the union workers are happy and a director coming out with the finished piece of product "You're going to like this and we see it, we really like it and then we screen it for the fans and the fans, come on, we loved it, that's the win, yeah, that's the win, this one thing and I'm trying to control Kev, stop, you can." You don't control that and if you continue in the direction you're going, if that changes, you will get so hurt that the world of recovery might not be easy for you, your logic and what you now consider to be a reality for you, is not a reality, yes, if you don't understand the real concept of what should be now, it doesn't mean you're saying you're ready to fail, it's saying be ready for the world. of the real to show up at any moment, not get caught up in the world of the fake and act like I control these numbers is whether I can navigate and direct and make it happen when and how I want all the time I'm preparing so you know what I'm going to do.

I'm going to check myself now yeah, let me balance it now huge, what are you doing? I love what I do, okay, so let's be happy in what we do. I talked to David Letterman on my comedy podcast, so I came to the gold mines and Letterman said it was really dark at one point because all he did was show up and he looked at the numbers between himself and the other shows every day. God. that's painful every day, my Instagram numbers, he said every day, I got there and I looked at him and I told my team you're not working hard enough and I was so hard, he said I'm so hard on people and when you listen to them talk, I love David, by the way, I don't know the Lettermen of yesteryear that some people ran into.

I know the Lettermen now and he is so transparent in the information and how he speaks and what he has overcome. His stories were so good. Listen because when you hear people openly telling you that you can't do this, you can't operate like this because it eats you up, it eats me up, it made me realize that I went through a part of that, I was just able to catch mine early and with the worry. that we might fail, we run the risk of being open to being broken, like that's the risk, like you don't want to fall, but you don't realize that if you're not prepared for that in the future. down is going to be a lot worse it's going to be a lot worse man yeah we've had a live example of a lot of those Downs like real time we're watching I called The Truman Show uh and for everyone who listens to your podcast Yes You're not familiar with The Truman Show, it's a Jim Carrey movie, but basically you know people's lives, it's the movie, yeah right, we're watching real live movies every day and you see people make mistakes. recover from mistakes don't recover from mistakes make rights instead of lefts left instead of rights and see that we choose to ignore it like it's not real life yes, yes, yes, we choose to ignore it because it feels like it's television and drugs bigger, bigger drug.

It's not cocaine, it's not heroin, it's not Molly or opioids, and the biggest drug is fame and now it's more accessible and in different doses, it's the biggest drug and the reason it's the biggest drug because it's a drug that makes you feel powerful. and like wherever you go, anything you want, everything you want, it's a thing and if you can't handle this, the consequence is attached, yes when that thing is removed, they are serious, no one prepares you for the world of fame, there is no manual there. there is no outline there is no guide by guide from step one to ten there is nothing you understand and yesterday you were not and today you are and tomorrow you are not what is not, we have finished people are surprised, that for me has always has been the point of no return, yes, at the end of the day, this can go away if and when, however, see or decide if that happens, well, what am I, where am I?, everything is going to, everything is going to send back to are you? happy with who you are and what you did, are you at a point where you are okay?

Do you know yourself and are you okay with you? if you're not, it will break your energy is incredible and just the depth of what I love This and this was my vision with the show and you're helping me achieve that which I'm so grateful for. I don't think so and I love that you've been doing this more and more with Audible with hot to hot. like we're seeing your depth, we're seeing the Mind behind you again, like we said before, we like to limit people we like to limit people, like you're just a comedian or just a race car driver or just You're an actor and it's like we're starting to realize that like you said, you're not just watching someone's life on TV, there's a human being here, there's a story here and we're getting it with you, do you think it was?

Was this something? Was this an epiphany that you had before the accident or was this really because in your audible when you talk about how when it's quiet you discover what really matters? like when I heard that I was just thinking like our near death experiences told you that when you came out of this you should be dead and you're like, well I don't remember anything, do you feel like it was a moment where there's a mass Awakening or were you already working ? Not with some of this, I was always a transparent and authentic person, but yes, you definitely change, that's the right thing to do, you definitely changed and, by the way, I continue to change.

I'm not sitting in front of us, yes, an imperfect man like me. my dad's son and my mother's son too there is nothing more humiliating than a quiet room there is nothing more humiliating than realizing what is really necessary what you take for granted and what we do not think twice about is not Until that is committed that the true appreciation for life that I feel can sometimes be had. I don't want to speak for everyone because I think there are some people who really get it and who really think, whatever their space or version of a higher power is. daily for life and what they do, you know, I believe in God, so I'm not as spiritual as some may be, but I am very grateful for the life that God has allowed me to live and the opportunities that I have.

I have been able to embark, but I gained so much more appreciation after life almost ended. Do you really appreciate your toes? Do you really appreciate your fingers? And luckily, it's the only time where I get a little bit slower and when I'm slowing down it's because the reality of that was significant. I really almost died, my kids and all that. moving so fast that I didn't even have everything checked because if said thing happened, what, oh, because I'm, I'm out here, I'm just wandering, I'm out here, aimless, living and moving so fast that I have yet to understand the real concept actually a responsibility immediately, let me put my responsibilities in order because if that were the case, there would be a lot of people with their hands up about what happens when the fame is great, the lights are great have a heart can my heart give a heart ? number one one of one I was in that room with my fucking wife my brother my kids you look around you have a lot of friends you have a lot of people who love you but then you start off good what really matters that's when my mindset started to change, that's when you go well, my focus only on myself and working on myself has to be different.

I've contradicted myself a lot since you know, I want to go slower. I will make sure to give my family more time than I have. Not thatIt means there can be no more daily battles of Am I giving enough? Do you know how much dad loves you? I'm here. I'm like he's always working to make sure I do more, but is it enough? My workaholic. Okay, but that's not a bad thing because I love the word. If you do. It's a passion you get. You have something you pursue every day. That is a source of motivation for me.

I'm not in the business of letting it go, but you better get your hands on these people and make sure you give them the time you said you would when you were. that moment of silence is okay, I'm constantly talking to myself I have these conversations all the time that's the beauty of doing my little runs the beauty of working out being in the gym you talk to yourself you better talk to yourself you better have the conversations uncover a yin and a yang of good and bad for me it was about personal involvement after that accident and to keep trying man it's the biggest battle it's the biggest battle the biggest battle is just doing the right thing all the time, that's a battle and knowing that you're I'm going to get it wrong, that's a battle man when I go to a restaurant and they bring a plate, the waiters say it all the time, don't touch that plate to play Hot , you know what I do, Jay, you know what I say after I play.

If it wasn't hot, yes, they told me not to touch the plate, yes, he said it's hot, yes, but I still have to go without touching the plate anyway, it's a battle, so be okay with understanding that I'm going to lose and win. in this battle and this battle doesn't end until the day I'm on the ground because you're not going to do it right, no you're not going to do it right and there are people with this idea and their mindset and mentality are I'll do it right and everything will be perfect. Don't play that perfect game because all you will do is disappoint yourself because perfection doesn't exist.

I hold firmly to that and believe it does not exist. Man, you should. try your best to do things right in the moments where you were wrong, figure out how not to be wrong again, that's the world of commitment, that's the world of growth, that's the world of evolution, I mean, I have a teenage daughter, no one is prepared. I, for the world of you, you know, like you, speaking, I have to do it right, are we talking enough, do I love enough, am I present, am I listening, am I just delegating, am I being a parent, am I your friend, am, there is so much, yes, so much, teenage son. little ones, I mean my wife, it's a constant battle of energy and as a man who is a product, I don't complain about that product, but those that I'm taking I just have to make sure that I'm getting that and that I'm not I'm moving too fast I'm not making the most of those moments and that's this level of Consciousness that I didn't have before the accident I had I was going a thousand miles an hour and it's not that I'm not still moving fast but I'm looking at my peripheral yes I'm looking at my mirrors mirrors slowing down, I stop, I'm sleeping, you know what I mean, like there's a difference, I know there's a difference, but still a battle, yeah, still a battle, still a battle.

Yes, I love that you describe it as a battle because what you just described is exactly the practice that we have to have every day, that is, you should review how I do well today. It's not a day where you now do it right from now until the end of time, but rather you review it every day saying, "I'm recommitting myself to this. I'm going to be a good father today." The decision to be a good father in 10 years you have to make today and then you have to make it tomorrow and I think that's really interesting.

The reason I asked that question was also because I think memory is a very interesting thing sometimes when something big. happens to us, we feel the shift that this is going to change my way of thinking and then suddenly when things go back to normal, sometimes it may seem like it never happened but to you it seems like you've really used it like an anchor, well, I did, yes, you've used it, it's even when you say, like you said, that today I'm going to be a good father, yeah, right, you can only do your best, do your best, yeah, to do it, ultimately, just because you say so.

You're a good father doesn't make you a good father no, of course not, don't tell me you're a good boss, you're a good boss, I can say it every day, I can think I'm doing it. but if the opposite side sees me differently, it will be because I'm doing something wrong and I'm not aware of it. What I'm doing now is making sure I'm seeing things through both lenses, it's not a one-sided POV. I love that it's not. It's just my perception of what I'm doing and how everyone else should see it, yes, and do it the way I do my best to support the hope that they perceive me. since it's about doing real work to be that, yeah, making sure that I'm really engaged with other people, making sure that there's a good relationship, that there's energy, um, and you know the wife and the kids at the house.

Likewise, making sure there's a relationship that exists, you know I'm asking the questions and getting the answers, but I'm asking for things so I can get the right feedback, so that if I need to make adjustments or if I need to fix at least I'm aware that operating with the assumption that you are doing it or that you are doing it can be a crutch as it can be, it can be a bad thing if I am operating with the Assumption because one day you will. wake up and they'll go away you know I never liked winning or acting like a problem for me all these years was when you and then you just walk away I never knew you never said anything yeah and sometimes people don't want to say anything , sometimes people don't know how to say anything, so I think I have improved in the world of dialogue, communication and openness, yes, over time, but again, it is a constant space for improvement, yes.

We are constantly trying to improve, yes, and that is the only way it can be, there is no other alternative and there is a beautiful conversation between the Buddha and a student that I love and the student comes up to the Buddha and tells him what the difference is between I like you and I love you and the Buddha says that when you like a flower you just pluck it, but when you love a flower you water it every day and I am like that for me, that is what you are describing when I love my Children, I have try every day to understand from their point of view, the flower will show you if you are watering or not, it will die, it will not bloom or whatever, and I feel like you.

You have to be very in tune with yourself and others to be able to feel that, but I know what you're saying is true, true and I really recommend this to anyone who is a big Kevin fan like me, please go and listen. the audiobook because monsters and how to tame them. I mean, I've never heard anyone be as open and transparent as you are in it and you're so open about all your flaws and there's one thing you say here that again I thought, I have to talk to you about this because it just stuck in my head and you talk about that and you say you know it and you're just talking about fame and that's where the idea of ​​talking about how fame generates came from.

You feel invincible and then when you talk about getting caught cheating and you think I was in that state of mind where I was like it can't happen to me, right? It's not possible, and then you say it so crudely and in my head, I'm thinking, what is it about the monster that makes you do things that even go against your own values? Just like the monster becomes so strong that you go so far and when they catch you, that was an Awakening, but it still doesn't awaken you quite right, there is a limitation so explain that to us well, I mean, look, you're talking about fame, You're talking about power, right, and that idea of ​​invincible again, this is a thing. that a very small percentage of people are going to be able to experience or understand well and it's very easy from the outside to look in or how or I don't believe or how it can be right um but from the other side it's not like it's right First of all, the bad It's wrong, you'll never hear me try to justify or excuse what's wrong.

It's wrong, but being wrong sometimes comes with a world of situations, a world of opportunities, the right thing to do if you're constantly surrounded by bad apples and you're hungry and people keep saying. Don't eat these apples, some people may resist, but there are some people who will take that apple and bite it, it's not right, it's not something that is justifiable for some, what's the worst that's going to happen? I'll eat it and then I'll probably get sick for a second and throw up and then I'll be fine, well, Apple killed you, but the way you look at it at the time I'll be fine.

The idea that comes with that level of success and that comes with opportunity based on the situation is one that you look at, it would be fine, it's easy, it's nothing, but it's not in your hand, it's in the pot and you get burned or you get burned. catch or whatever you know, you have to sit and then you have to think about it, you have to look at it and then you realize the layers that are attached to it and that's when the life changing side of thinking happens properly and so it's about you or how you look at yourself, how you see yourself and what you expect from yourself, right, it's not bigger than just the partner of course, who you want to respect, it's also about you and how you want to be seen at that moment. point like what's important where you are where you are with you in that mirror you can look at yourself in that mirror you know if you're okay but what you're looking at and you're okay is flawed and everything and everything true yeah getting older puts you in a position where you start to look at yourself and you're talking about the complete finished product that you are and will be, those are the moments where you have to do the best you can to not only overcome but just survive, yeah, and you know once again it's a battle.

Yes, of course, you have to learn the love of marriage and at a young age, when you are embedded in it, you are not going to do it well, you have to learn it. It's unfortunate how lessons come from anywhere, however they happen, but when it's learned or taken as seriously as it can be, of course you get the benefits and you see how amazing it is, but you know I wasn't that smart and I'm not. I'm going to act like I was and that's from my first marriage up until that point. Is it difficult to forgive yourself or is it more difficult to ask for forgiveness?

I think I can be hard on myself. I can stay in the fire if someone else does. That's where it gets difficult, like you throw rocks at me all day when the other person is there. I think that's a different level and the mistakes I've made in my life, the biggest consequence has always been the effect. that has had in others, I will figure it out and do the best I can to evolve and grow and yet that has to happen with me, but I can't dictate hmm how you would receive and how you would handle or how you would do it.

I know that seeing other people suffer that is never good. I think that would be the hardest side. Yeah, sure, that's very thoughtful of someone. Yes. I feel like that is that genuine Compassionate Heart that says: I know I can find my way out, but why would I? someone in a situation where they have to figure it out for themselves, someone was reading me a quote the other day and it was like saying I think it was Nietzsche who said, I wish pain and suffering on anyone because that's what helps them. growing up and I thought, wait a second, yeah, I thought, I wouldn't want Jesus, I thought, yeah, that was someone really reaching out to me and I thought, I can't subscribe to that, I thought, that's right. a lot, it was a lot, I thought, I can't, you can't wish pain and suffering on anyone because even though we know that you grow through hard things and you've grown through so many hard things that weren't your choice and then some things were your choice. , but we shouldn't expect other people to be able to navigate those situations.

It's good when you say that you know well the decisions you make, yes, and due to our current times, the world of what one does or has done. it's amplified because we're in a position where everyone can have an opinion and there's a space to express your voice, set up a pen, I'm going to simplify it and I'm going to go to the lowest level right now when people do something. of the dumbest mistakes in crime, death and Fidelity deception, all the gold everywhere, who has examined the consequences, no one has examined Let's take the consequences, everyone robbed a bank and tried to rob a bank because they found out it was something very easy because I go here at 12 o'clock, that man is going to take a break, but he is going to break.

I'm going in. there and while he's on break, I'm going to get the money and we'll be out, all we have to do is get back before he gets back from lunch, yeah we got it and they come in, we're outside the bank. the alarms go off they don't explode with the money they don't know anything they lock them up and say something crazy like I don't want to, I want to do this and the world does what you want I want to do if you rob the bank, no, some people are like that, some thoughts , yes, they are that simplistic, yes, yes, some actions are that stupid and are not thought out, but not everything is so deep, everything did not have so many layers for the error, when it was the error.

It happened yes, yes, yes, I am rooted in the world of reality, everything I have done in my mind I attached a little logic and made it haveI want you to show Kevin a lot of love. our community of purpose, tag us on any social media platform you use, share Kevin's best moments, ideas, nuggets of wisdom, there were so many great gems he dropped today. I want to make sure you screenshot the episode and share it everywhere you want. share and make sure we see that because I love to see the ideas that resonate with you and that stay with you, but the most important thing is the ones that you apply, the ones that you practice, the ones that you put into your own reality and you start to see changes in your life .

Uh Kevin. thank you for being such a generous guest, such a present guest, I felt every question I asked you, you felt your presence, you felt your energy and you just brought it tonight, man, and I am so grateful to you and that was so special and beautiful I hope that you come back Hey man, I want to thank you and that you have created an incredible environment of comfort, community, and just speaking to your community the way that you do, you build something amazing and I know when I'm talking about being in a space for try to motivate, inspire or push, however you can, you know you do it now daily.

People come here and they leave with a feel-good feeling, so congratulations again, man, but. I hope you really understand the real work that you're doing and that you've done and the assumption that you come here, you come here for a reason because we hear you too and we're taking away antidotes like um your way of thinking your perspective as a man looking at you uh like husband with your children like you as men we draw from that right you find energy and motivation in seeing people do it right so please continue to be the example that you are and exhibit your life at the level that you do man the right people are watching and I hope you continue to get the feedback that you are doing well.

I'm going to keep coming to you and I need help too, so I just know that, but I appreciate it coming from you, man, very empowering, honestly, very empowering. I'm serious, I mean everywhere, man, if you want this one, make sure you subscribe and click the boxes here. I'm also happy to let you know. You can now get my book Think Like a Monk at Think Like a Monkbook.com. Check out the description below to make sure you order today.