Peter-(CA) | Irrefutable Evidence For Noah's Flood | The Atheist Experience 26.39

but we have Peter calling from Canada pronouncing he, uh, who wants to talk about the geological column

evidence

for God, so welcome Peter, how are you, hey, how's it going guys, not bad, yeah, well, yeah, I actually wanted to talk about the the

flood

that you know as a

flood

, I think there's good

evidence

for that and I actually have one thing that I think is kind of a nail in the coffin that I don't think you can refute, but I just want to. lay a little foundation if that's okay, well, I'm curious because I'm really interested and when you say you have something that I'm not going to be able to refute, you know. what I can't refute unfalsifiable statements no one can no one has to they don't stand on their own just because something isn't refuted so you have the burden of proof it's not on me to discredit it you have to make it a case yes no, I'm going to make my case great, okay, so first of all I wanted to touch on the geological evidence so that you'll discover that there are a lot of geological hours and hours that I spent of land animals mixed with sea creatures. on the planet in the mountains they found hundreds of jellyfish and pristine conditions uh Mount St.

Helens eruptions we saw fossils created in hours and Mount St. Helens erupted in the 80s is that the eruption you're talking about, yes, yes, and that's where we are. I saw fossils you can go look for everything we saw fossils created in a matter of hours there is a mini Grand Canyon it was carved from a landslide in nine hours we have trees placed in volcanic rock like many of our sites where we estimate the flood had millions of years explains how fossil fuels are related, the Russians dug an eight-mile hole, it is the deepest hole on Earth and scientists were surprised to find yes, water down there, the oxidation of the planet, so we know there was 35 percent more oxygen on our planet once We know this basically from the insects and the size they grew until the flood, it describes the elimination of vegetation, which would perfectly explain how our oxidation decreased, as well as life expectancy. of the humans.

We know from hyperbaric chambers that humans can rejuvenate and indeed our cells. They tend to regress and then after the flood the age began to decrease. They estimated that I have done a lot of research on this. Scholars and historians estimate that the flood would have occurred between 45,500 and 7,000 years ago, and if you look at the pyramids the pyramids of the Sphinx 4,500 years the summer the oldest human writing we have the Sumerians 5,000 years the oldest mummified courts we have five thousand years the oldest article of clothing five thousand years the oldest sacred site we found is 8,000 years old but it was buried quickly and the nail in the coffin is the oldest tree on earth 5,000 years how to explain the oldest tree on earth Earth is 5,000 years old from an evolutionary point of view they asked me to each be 80,000 Also, in age and the oldest one we have on Earth is 5,000 years old, great, how do you refute that Matt?

I don't need to refute it, you haven't proven anything if you can't, you haven't proven it. Just one thing, nothing you said proves proof of a God or a flood, no, a flood, not a global flood, not a global flood, you know what disproves a global flood, math, there's not enough water, that It is one of my favorite items. In fact, have I ever written, yes, 80 million, no, I can't, I have to go look for it, it's crazy. Do you also know how we measure floods, Peter, over time? You know, a 10-year flood is a hundred-year flood, but that's because they are so frequent throughout human history that every culture we know has flood stories because floods are a constant throughout of human history, so the fact that other cultures we know mention a flood at some point in their history doesn't indicate how Matt is saying it's the same global flood all over the world, you get it, yeah, yeah , all those stories that you're actually leaving out, they all indicate a global flood and these people are on opposite ends of the world, Peter Peter, they didn't know that either. what the globe was to them their world was their small geographic area right, they didn't have satellites they didn't know, you know, Asia and North America weren't in constant contact except when the land bridge was up, you get it, right, yeah , but you understand that they traveled well, they were not little people in a small isolated area, they traveled and discussed these things well, they were not small isolated populations, these people were moving, no, they were small isolated populations, but in any case, the Earth is approximately uh. what four and a half billion years and you think it's a few thousand years old.

I never said it's a few thousand. What I said. I asked a question. Why are you so hostile? I let you talk and talk to a bunch that you clearly don't understand and know nothing for a long time and all I did was say the Earth is about four and a half billion years old and you think it's a few thousand years old, sign of interrogation and I never said it was like that. a few thousand so I ask how old is the Earth in your opinion? I don't know well. I don't think we can know.

How could we know just because they say it's 14 billion years old? What does that mean? I don't know that the Earth isn't 14 billion years old, it's four and a half billion years old and we know that because we've actually given it signs, so here's my question, if you don't know how old the Earth is, what difference does it make? there is? It is done if the oldest tree is four thousand five hundred years old because trees don't stop growing so what if three is only five? Three stop growing. I have dead trees in my yard right now, why don't you come down? and tell them that they don't stop growing you see that you are contorting, although true, I am not contorting, I am not contorting, I am pointing out faulty reasoning of yours, I will silence you if you don't stop, but what I The question was what difference What if you find a tree that is four thousand five hundred years old?

How does that prove that there was a flood just before? How does it prove something about a flood or the age of the Earth? that tree is relevant because that tree dates back to the exact period in which a flood was supposedly said to prevent this you're not listening you're not listening what does the existence of that tree prove proves that the Earth is not as old as you I think it is or B that some catastrophe occurred around the world to extinguish all the trees. I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, but you are absolutely wrong, you don't understand what the existence of that tree proves, what the existence of that tree proves is that that tree exists, there just has to be more to say that this tree exists and it's the oldest because everything before it was washed away by a global flood, you haven't made that case, you haven't provided evidence of that.

You haven't and by the way you just mentioned it, which I'm sorry but it's going to make you a big liar is that you said it shows that the Earth is not as old as I think you just said you don't know how old the Earth is, You weren't willing to say that it was thousands of years old, but when I press you to expose your fallacies, you are wrong and then you go on to say that the tree proves the Earth is not as old as I say, okay, you are wrong and when you go to present the procedures to obtain your Nobel Prize will make me laugh abroad.

I just got my article out, my old article too, yeah, and my back, so this. Back to the math on the envelope, uh, but there's about 332 million cubic miles of water on Earth, that's what we have if you add up all the water on Earth and the math for Noah's flood is 813 million miles. cubic you need, it just doesn't work. Yeah, I try not to go into it too much and I don't have it all memorized and everything, but I'll give you all a resource and it would also be a good resource for the previous caller if you go to talkoreigans.org. um or just Google's index of creationist claims, you'll find an exhaustive list of claims that real scientists have investigated.

Written responses to links provided to evidence showing how and why these things are not Arguments for the claim, but at the end of the day I mean. If you think about what just happened, here is someone calling to say there is this and this and this and this and this and this it is very clear what happened what happened is not that this individual studied science and learned what the science says about the age of the Earth and this stuff, all they did was listen to a creationist propaganda merchant say this and this and this and this and this, that's why it's so easy to pick holes in this and why there's a site whole website that exhaustively discusses these claims that they've been researching for years everything from how much dust is on the moon just in the geology section, let me scroll up a little bit here, the questions that are there that are answered in geology alone. .

Wow I'm still scrolling just to go back to the beginning of uh it's too much go look I don't need to read it to you you can find the website it's a talk origins.org and if you think you have a victor for the Earth era , if you think you have a huge amount of evidence proving that the Earth is young or that there was a global flood six or ten thousand years ago, don't call The Atheist Experience, prove that's not how science is done, my friend , if you believe you can debunk what real scientists say about the age of the Earth to demonstrate the truth of the proposition that you are the special creation of a God who flooded and killed all, in one monstrous act, all babies, except for a family of eight.

Um, cool, you can do that, but don't call me. What's happening? What if you convince me and Andrew? Hey Andrew, we're now convinced there was a global flood 10,000 years ago, doesn't mean it's the one in the Bible. It doesn't mean that Yahweh is God It doesn't mean that Jesus is Lord It doesn't mean that it doesn't mean anything A flood is a real event that could have occurred at some point in history We know of countless floods, most of them uh are incredibly small regional, but as Andrew was pointing out, those people didn't know much about the world around them when everything in their valley floods, that's the whole world to you, but if you have something to prove, you better come up with something real. science and not just a bunch of stuff you read from creationists, you can take that stuff and go talk to real scientists, it's really easy.