Watch In Full: Trump versus Biden in the first US Presidential election debate

I'm chris wallace from fox news and I welcome you to the

first

of the 2020

presidential

debate

s between president donald j.

trump

and former vice president joe

biden

. This

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is sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates. The Commission has designed the format for six approximately 15 minute segments with two minute responses from each candidate to the

first

question, then open the discussion to the remainder of each segment. Both campaigns agreed to these rules for the record. I decided on the topics and questions for each topic. I can assure you that none of the questions have been shared with the commission or the two candidates.

This debate is being held under health and safety protocols designed by the Cleveland Clinic, which acts as the commission's health safety advisor during the four debates as a precautionary measure. Both campaigns have agreed on the candidates. will not shake hands at the beginning of tonight's debate, the audience here in the room has promised to remain silent, without applause, without boos or other interruptions, so that we and, more importantly, you, can concentrate on what the candidates have to say, without noise, except at this moment, as welcome the republican candidate president

trump

and the democratic candidate vice president

biden

hello gentlemen many people have been waiting tonight so let's begin our first topic is the president of the supreme court trump you nominated amy coney barrett over the weekend to succeed the late ruth bader ginsburg on the court you say the constitution is clear about your and the senate's obligation to consider a court nominee vice president biden you say that this is an effort by the president and the Republicans to hinder an appointment and what you call an abuse of power my first question to you two tonight why are you right in the argument you are making and your opponent is wrong and where do you think a Judge Barrett would take Chief Justice Trump in this first segment, wow the first two minutes, thank you very much.

Very much so, Chris, I'll tell you very simply, we won the

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s have consequences, we have the Senate, we have the white house and we have a phenomenal candidate respected by all the top academics, good in every way, well in every way, in fact, some of its most important. The sponsors are very liberal people from Notre Dame and other places, so I think she's going to be fantastic. We have plenty of time, even if we did it after the election. I have a lot of time after the election, as you know, so I think she. she will be outstanding she will be as good as anyone who has worked on that court we really feel that we have a teacher at notre dame who is very respected by everyone said she is the best student he has ever had she has been a teacher for a long time at a great school and we just won elections and therefore we have the right to choose it and very few people would knowingly say otherwise and by the way the Democrats wouldn't even think about not doing it if they had the only difference is to try to do it faster, there is no way they would give it up , they had a garland of merit, but the problem is that they didn't have the elections, so they were stopped and that would probably happen the other way around and it would definitely happen the other way around, so we won. the election and we have the right to do it chris president trump thank you um same question for you vice president biden you have two minutes well first of all thank you for doing this and I look forward to this Mr.

President I uh the American people have have the right to have a say in who the candidate to the Supreme Court and that opinion occurs when they vote for senators of the United States and when they vote for the president of the United States, they are not going to have that opportunity now because we are in the Already in the middle of an election, the elections have already begun , tens of thousands of people have already voted, so what should happen is we should wait, we should wait and see what the outcome of this election is because that's the only way the American people get to express their point of view.

It's who they elect as president and who they elect as vice president now what's at stake here is that the president made it clear that he wants to get rid of the affordable health care law that he's been pushing, that he ran on that and that he's been governing on. that, he's in the supreme court right now trying to get rid of the affordable care law that will strip 20 million people of having health insurance now if they go to court and justice and I have nothing. I am not opposed to the judges, she seems like a very good person, but she wrote before taking office, which is her right, that she thinks the affordable health care law is not constitutional, the other thing is in court and if it is cancels What happens?

Women's rights are fundamentally changing once again. A woman could be helped to pay more money because she has a pre-existing pregnancy condition. We were able to charge a woman more for the exact same procedure that Amanda receives and that ended when we actually passed the Affordable Care Act and there are a hundred million people who have pre-existing conditions and they will have those pre-existing conditions removed as well. Insurance companies will love this, so it is simply not appropriate to do this. before this election, if he wins the election and the senate is democrat or republican then he will move on, if not we should wait until February, there are not a hundred million people with pre-existing conditions, as far as opinion goes, people already had They say they're fine, Justice Ginsburg said very power

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y, very strongly, at some point about ten years ago, she said that a president and the Senate are elected for one period of time, but a president is elected for four years, we are not elected for three years.

I'm not elected for three years, so we have the Senate, we have a president, he was elected for the next one during that period of time, during that period of time we have a vacancy. I am not elected for three years. I am elected for four years. and 100 million people, the hundred million people are totally wrong, I don't know where you got that number, the biggest problem you have is that you are going to extinguish 180 million people with their private healthcare, which are very simple. It's not true, well you said you were going to socialism, he knows that what I proposed was that we expand Obamacare and increase it, we didn't erase any of the great debates we had with 23 of my colleagues trying to win the nomination that I I won we were saying that Biden wanted to allow people to have private insurance, they can still do it, they will do it according to my proposal, it's not what you said right and it's not what that party says, it's just the party doesn't.

I'm not saying your party wants to go to the socialist party and right now I'm socialism and they're going to dominate you, Joe, you know I'm the Democratic party right now, the Democratic party platform is what I actually approved of what I approved. . For now, here's the deal, the deal is that he will eliminate pre-existing conditions and, by the way, the 20, the 200 million, the 200,000 people who died under his command, that's how many of them and they've survived well, there's seven. Millions of people who signed up for Covet, what does it mean for them in the future if the Affordable Care Act is struck down?

Joe, you've had 308,000 military members die because you couldn't give them proper medical care in the military, so don't tell me. about it, happy to talk about it and if you were here you wouldn't be 200, it would be 2 million people because you were very late to the draw, you didn't want me to ban China, which was very infected, you didn't want me to ban, okay, gentlemen, something that was unprecedented. It would have been much later, Mr. Prime Minister, later, Mr. President, around two million people, you are not the president of the moderator. We're going to talk about coveting in the next segment, but go ahead.

In closing, the point is that the president also opposes Roe v Wade, which is also on the ballot and in court in court, and that is also in play right now, so the only thing you don't know It's the election, it's on the ballot. Why is it on the ballot? Why isn't it on the ballot? It's on the ballot in court. I think that in court, well, nothing happens there. Donald. Could you not know his opinion on Roe vs. Wade? Don't know. Well, okay, let's talk, we have a lot to unpack here, gentlemen, we have a lot of time, so on health care and then we'll get back to Roe v Wade, okay, Mr.

President, the Supreme Court will hear a case. week after the election in which the Trump administration along with 18 state attorneys general are seeking to repeal that's right, Obamacare, to end Obamacare, you have spent the last one because they want to provide good help, if I can ask questions sir, good attention medical during the last. For four years you have promised to repeal and replace Obamacare, but never in these four years have you come up with a plan, a comprehensive plan to replace Obamacare, of course you do, well, I'll get rid of the individual. I'll give you an excuse.

I got rid of the individual mandate, which was a big part of it, it's absolutely a big thing, it was the worst part of Obamacare, Chris, yeah, that was the worst part. Let me ask my question. I'll ask Joe. The individual mandate was the most unpopular aspect and I would like you to let me ask my question and then you can answer it over the course of these four years I have never come up with a comprehensive plan to replace Obamacare and just this last Thursday you signed an executive largely symbolic. to protect people with preexisting conditions five days before this debate, so my question, sir, is what is Trump's health care plan?

Well, first of all, I guess I'm debating with you, not him, but that's okay, I'm not surprised, let me just. Tell you something that there is nothing symbolic, I am reducing drug prices, I am going with the favorite nations, which no president has the courage to do, because you are going against big pharmaceutical companies, drug prices will drop by 80 or 90 percent. you could have done it you did it during your 47 year period in government, but you didn't, nobody did, so we're cutting health care, what about all the things we've done? Yes, I'll give you an example: insulin, what happened? destroying families destroying people the cost I'm getting it for so cheap it's like water you want to know the truth so cheap check out all the drugs we're doing prescription drug prices we're going to allow our governors now to go to other countries to buy drugs because they pay only a small fraction.

This is an open discussion. Sir, you will be happy. I'm about to pick up one of your points to ask the vice president which one he points out. would like to add a public option to obamacare and the argument that he and other republicans make is that that is going to end private insurance, that's right and well, if I start asking the question, eh, it will, the party says so TRUE. will end private insurance and create a government takeover of health care. It is not like this. It is only for those people who are so poor that they qualify for Medicaid.

They can get it for free in most states, except governors who want to deny Medicaid to people or the poor, anyone who qualifies for Medicare. would mean that Medicaid would automatically be enrolled in the public option, the vast majority of the American people would still not be in that number one option, so you agree with the far-left Bernie Sanders in the manifesto we call it man, which gives you The crux of the matter. it's just that I won against bernie sanders not much I won a lot I'm here I'm here standing in front of you you would have left two days earlier you would have lost all the prices know how to support Tuesday you have to look very long, there is a deal, I was very lucky playing, good luck tonight too and tonight I'll make sure because here's the deal, the fact is everything you're saying so far is just a lie, I'm not here to call.

He tells his lies, everyone knows he's a liar, but you just want me to tell you that I want to make sure you were last in your class, not first, oh God, I want to be president, can you let him finish, sir? , no, he does not do it. he knows how to do that he knows it christ he picked it be surprised by the wrong guy on the wrong night at the wrong time listen you agreed with him sanders said the mountains there is no manifesto number please let him speak mister number two just lose the left number two, you just lost the left, you agreed with bernie sanders on a plan, do you have any idea they call it socialized medicine? you have cost 10 million people the health care they were getting from their employers because of your recession number one number two there are 20 million people getting health care through Obamacare now you want to take it away you will never look them in the eye and say that's it what you want to do, take it away, oh, I want to give the numbers better healthcare at a much lower price because you don't know how anyway, you don't knowhow to do it, fixed it, has never offered to fix it. to some extent, he has never been like you may know, but he probably won't at the same time, Obama and it's too expensive, let the president move on, Mr.

Obamacare, it's no good, we did better and I had to take a decision from the beginning. They took away the individual mandate, we guaranteed pre-existing conditions, but they took away the individual mandate, listen, that's how it is and that destroyed that they shouldn't even call it Obamacare, so I had to make a decision, I let my people run it. very well or badly, if I handle it badly they will probably blame him but they will blame me but the most important thing is that I want to help people okay I said you have to execute it very well that's all and I just had a meeting with them they said the problem is it doesn't matter how well you run obamacare it's a disaster it's too expensive the premiums are too high but it doesn't work I have to give it about the same time please let the vice president speak he doesn't have a plan for it health care yes we have it please send you have wishful thinking, you have executive orders that have no power, you have not reduced drug costs for anyone, you have been promising a health care plan since you were elected, you have none, like almost everything else he talks about, he doesn't have a plan, he doesn't have one.

I don't have a plan and the fact is that this man doesn't know what he's talking about. Well, I have one last question for you. Sure, Mr. Vice President, if we Senate Republicans were originally talking about the Supreme Court here, if the Senate Republicans go ahead and confirm Judge Barrett that there has been talk of ending the filibuster or even packing the court by adding the nine justices present. You call this a distraction on the part of the president, but it was actually not mentioned by the president, but by some of his Democratic colleagues in Congress, so my question to you is: you have refused in the past to talk about it.

Are you willing to tell the American people tonight whether or not you will support ending the filibuster or court packing, whatever the position? I guess that will become the problem, the problem is that the American people should speak, you should go out and vote, you are voting now, vote and let your senators know how strongly you feel, let them vote now, make sure that, In fact, let people know we're not senators I'm not going to answer the question because the question is radical left justice could you listen to who's on your list joe this is who's on your own right gentlemen I think this is about this no We're going to give a letter, we've finished this segment, we're going to move on to the second segment, which was really a productive segment, wasn't it just keep barking, man, people understand, yes, you've been doing it for 47 years. nothing that they understand, okay, the second topic is coveted 19, which is a tremendously serious topic, so let's try to be serious, we have had more than seven million cases of coronavirus in the United States and more than 200,000 people have died even after a vaccine is produced, experts say it could be months or even years before we return to anything approaching normality.

My question to you two is based on what you have said and done so far and what you have said you would do starting in 2021, why? Should the American people trust you more than your opponent to confront this public health crisis in the future? In this case, the question is for you first, sir, two uninterrupted minutes, good luck, two hundred thousand dead, as you said, more than seven million infected in the United States. In fact we have five percent or four percent of the world's population 20 percent of the deaths 40,000 people a day are contracting greed plus about 750 to a thousand people today are dying when that number was presented to him he said it is what is good is what it is because you are who you are that is why the president has no plan he has not exposed anything he knew since February how serious this crisis was he knew it was a deadly disease, what did he do?

He is on the tape acknowledging that he he knew, he said he didn't tell us or give people a warning because he didn't want to scare Americans, don't panic, he panicked on top of that. What did he do? He came in and we insisted that the Chinese, the people we had in China, should be able to go to Wuhan and determine for themselves how dangerous this was. He didn't even ask her to do that, he told her. us what a great job he was doing he said we owe him a debt of gratitude for being so transparent with us and what did he do then he didn't do anything he waited and waited and waited he still doesn't have a plan I explained to him In March exactly what we should be doing and I explained again in July what we should be doing.

We should provide all positions with protective equipment. We should provide the money that the house has spent to be able to go out and get. people the help they need to keep their businesses open schools open that cost a lot of money you should get out of your bunker and get out of the sand trap and get on your golf course and go to the oval office and rally the democrats republicans and fund what needs to be done now to save lives, so if we had listened to it, you have two minutes, sir, if we had listened to it, the country would have been wide open, millions of people would have died, not two hundred thousand. and one person is too many it's china's fault it should never have happened they stopped me from getting in but it was china's fault and by the way when you talk about numbers you don't know how many people died in china you don't know how many people died in russia you don't know how many people died in India, they don't exactly give you an exact count so you understand, but if you look at what we've done, I shut it down and you said it's xenophobic. a racist and he's xenophobic because you didn't think he should have shut down our country wait a minute say two minutes you didn't think we should have shut down our country because you thought it was too much it was terrible you wouldn't have shut it down for another two months because I did it early actually , The doctor.

Fauci said President Trump saved thousands of lives. Many of you, a Democratic governor, said President Trump did a phenomenal job. We work with the governor. Oh really, take a look. The governor said I did it. phenomenal job most said that in fact people who wouldn't necessarily be on my side said that President Trump did a phenomenal job, we did, we got the gowns, we got the masks, we made the ventilators, you wouldn't have made ventilators and now We are weeks away from a vaccine, we are doing therapies, fewer people die when they get sick, many fewer people die.

We have done a great job. The only thing I haven't done is a good job, and that is because of fake news. No matter what you tell them, they make you feel bad. press is just fake news they give you good press they give me bad press because that's how it is unfortunately but let me tell you something that I don't care I've gotten used to it but I'll tell you joe, you could never have done the job that we did, you don't have it in your blood, You could never have done it, but I know how to do the job, I know how to do it. get the job right you didn't do very well in the h1n1 swine flu you were a disaster your own bosses 14,000 people died no 200,000 there was no economic recession sure you made a person you made a point and there was no one there there is no we shut down the economy , this is your economy, the one that is being closed, the reason it is closed is because look at you at home, how many of you woke up this morning and had an empty chair at the kitchen table because someone died of coveting how many of you were in a situation where you lost your mom or your dad and you couldn't even talk to them you had a nurse holding a phone so you could say goodbye you would have lost your dad how many more people than would have been and , by the way, your own CDC director says we could lose up to another 200,000 people between now and the end of the year and he hugged him and said if we just wear a mask we can save half of those numbers are just a mask and, by the way, in terms of the whole notion of a vaccine, we are in favor of a vaccine, but I don't trust him at all, nor do I know that you don't, we trust him as a scientist.

By the way, you don't trust Dr. Johnson, let me move on to the questions about the future because they both touched on one of the two questions I'm going to ask, focusing on the future first president that you have. repeatedly contradicted or disagreed with some of the government's top scientists last week the director of the centers for disease control, dr. redfield, you said it would be the summer before the vaccine was available to the general public you said you were confused and wrong, those were your two words, but Dr. Slawy, the head of your operation, Worf Speed, said exactly the same.

Are they both wrong? Well, I have spoken to the companies and we can have it much sooner. It's a very political thing because people would rather this be political than save lives. It's something very political. I have spoken with Pfizer. I've talked to everyone you need to talk to. We have big modern Johnsons and Johnsons and others, they can go faster. that that became very political because the left or I don't know if I call him I don't know what the head of his operation doctor warp speed is like I don't agree with him yes, no, I don't agree with both of them and he doesn't I'm not saying that he He said it could be there, but it could also be a lot.

I had it in my office for two days. You talked about the summer, sir, before it is generally available. She said we may have the answer before November 1st. it could also be generally available, well, we will deliver it immediately, we have the army, everything is set up logistically, they are all set up, we have our army that delivers soldiers and they can do two hundred thousand a day, they are going to be this is the same man everything is prepared for Easter this would go away in the warm weather it would become miraculous like a miracle and by the way maybe you could inject some bleach into your arm and that would take care of everything This is the same way you said sarcastic so you know I would have said sarcasm, so here's the deal: this guy is talking about a vaccine, all the serious companies are talking about maybe having a vaccine by the end of the year, but the distribution of that vaccine won't happen until early or mid-next year to get it if we receive the vaccine and we pray to God that we do it, that God, Mr.

Vice President, I want to receive the vaccine, I want to get back to this. question, although you say the public can trust scientists but they can't trust president trump, in fact, you said that again tonight your running mate, senator harris, goes further saying that quotes from health experts public will be muzzled, they will be suppressed given the fact that polls already show that people are worried about the vaccine and are reluctant to take it, are you and your running mate, Senator Harris, contributing to that fear no more than the question did you just ask him? He pointed out that he puts pressure on and disagrees with his own scientist, but you're saying you can't hear harris is saying you can't trust the son, no, no, you can't trust the scientist he makes, She didn't say you can't, she said public health experts will cite will be gagged. be suppressed, that's what he's going to try to do, but there are millions of scientists, there are thousands of scientists out there, like here in this big hospital, who don't work for him, their work doesn't depend on him, that's not who they are. there and by the way the scientists who are in charge by the way will have the vaccine very seriously do you believe for a moment what he is telling you in light of all the lies he has told you about the whole issue related to greed that he still has He didn't even acknowledge that he knew this was happening, he knew how dangerous it was going to be in February and he didn't even tell them that he's on record saying he panicked or just looked at the stock market, one of the two because, I guess.

That a lot of people died and a lot more are going to die unless you get a lot smarter and a lot faster, Mr. President, did you use the word smart? He then said that he went to Delaware State but forgot the name of his college. Don't go to the state of Delaware. You graduated at or near the bottom of your class. Never use the word smart with me. Never use that word. Oh, give me your because you know what there is nothing intelligent about you, Joe, 47 years old. You've done this, let's add this to Ben, you would have let me tell you something, Joe, if you had been in charge of what happened to me.

I had to shut down the largest economy in the history of our country and for Now that it is rebuilding, let's move on to the economy in the next segment, sir. Okay, it's increasing rapidly. In regards to how the virus has been handled so far, you two have taken very different approaches and this will affect. how the virus is handled in the future, whichever of you ends up becoming the next president. I want to quickly go through several of those reopenings. vice president biden, you have beenmuch more reluctant than President Trump to reopen the economy and schools, why sir, because he wouldn't I wouldn't have a plan if he was running, I know what the plan is.

You have to give these businesses the ability to have the money to be able to reopen with the PPE and with the sanitation that they need. You have to provide them. them pelosi, well, he will shut up for a minute, tell it and humor, by the way, nancy pelosi and schumer, they have a plan, he will not even meet with him, the republicans will not meet with the senate, but he sits, sits in his golf. Of course, and I mean literally, think about it, you probably play more than I do, what about this thing about reopenings and the fact that he wants to shut down this country and I want to keep it open and we did a great job, let me close? you shut up for a second joe just for a second we want he wants to shut down the country we just went through that we had to do it because we didn't know anything about the disease now we find that older people with heart problems and diabetes and different problems are very, very vulnerable, we learned a lot, little kids are not even younger people, we haven't learned much, but he wants to shut it down, more people will be hurt if you continue if you look at Pennsylvania, if you look at certain states that have been shut down, they have Democratic governors, and a of the reasons they are closed is because they want to keep it closed until after the election, has increasingly begun to question the effectiveness of masks as a disease preventative and, in fact, has recently cited the issue of waiters playing his dough and touching the plates.

Are you wondering not? I think he has to understand if he looks, I mean, I have a mask right here, I put a mask on him. You know, when I think I need it tonight, as an example, everyone has been tested and you've had social distancing and all the necessary things, but I wear masks when necessary, when necessary, I wear a mask, okay, let me ask, no I don't have, I don't wear a mess like him every time you see him, he has a mask, he could be talking 200 feet away, he shows up with the biggest mask I've ever seen in my life, I'll say vice president Biden, go ahead, Sir.

Look the way to open businesses is to give them the means to be able to open, we provide money to congress, I was asking you sir about masks, well masks must make a big difference, your own CDC chief said if we had more mass between now, if we all wear masks socially distanced between now and January we would probably save up to a hundred thousand lives, it matters and they have also seen the opposite, they have also said no, no serious person said the opposite, no, look seriously, the Dr. Fauci said that he didn't ask too loudly.

There is one minute left on this topic because his different approaches have even affected the way he has campaigned with President Trump. He's holding big rallies with packed crowds, thousands of people, I'd say outside, yes sir, okay, uh vice. President Biden, he is holding much smaller events where no one will show up. People with what is true, no one shows up to Israel, okay, in any case, why organize the big demonstrations? Why not? It goes first, sir, because people want to hear what I have to say. Tell me, I mean, what are you doing? I will have 25 to 35,000 people show up at the airports.

We use airports. We have a lot of people. Well, so far we haven't had any problems. It's outside. That's a big difference according to experts. do them outside, we have tremendous crowds, as you'll see, I mean every and and literally 24 hours in advance and Joe does the circles and he has three people somewhere, okay, by the way, did you just do one of the last big rallies What do you have and a reporter? She approached him to ask him a question and he said, No, no, no, back off. Put on your mask. Put on a mask.

Have you been tested? I am very far from those other people. That's what he said. Can't. I'm going to be fine, he's not worried about you, he's not worried about the people outside breathing in one of them, we have had no negativity, no negative effects, we have had no negative effects and we have had between 35 and 40 thousand suitable people. I wanted the Israelis to finish quickly because I want to move on to the next yes I would, you've been totally irresponsible in the way you've handled social distancing and people wearing masks are basically encouraging them to not be okay but you're a fool to could. get the crowds you would have done the same but no one can, gentlemen, can we move on to the appearance?

Can we move on to the economy? Yes, the economy is, I think it's fair to say that it is recovering faster than expected from the shutdown in the second. quarter the unemployment rate fell to 8.4 last month the federal reserve says the hit to growth there will not be as big as they expected president trump you say we are in a v-shaped recovery vice president biden you say you have more form of k, what difference does that make for the American people in terms of the economy? president trump in this segment you go first so we built the largest economy in history we shut it down because of the chinese plague when the plague came we shut it down which was very difficult psychologically.

He didn't think we should close it and he was wrong and again two million people would be dead now instead of 204,000 people, it's too many. A person too. A lot of things should never have happened in China, but what happened is we closed it down and now we're reopening and we're doing record business. We had 10.4 million people in a four-month period that we have brought back into the workforce. records something like it's never been seen before and he wants to shut it down, he'll shut it down again, he'll destroy this country. You meet a lot of people between drugs, alcohol and depression.

When you start to close it, take a look. What's going on in some of your Democrat-governed states where they have these strict lockdowns and I'm telling you it's because they don't want to open them? One of them came to light last week. Did you see that we are going to open. on November 9 why on November 9 because it's after the election they think they're hurting us by keeping them closed they're hurting people people know what to do they can social distance they can wash their hands they can wear masks they can do whatever they want I want to but they have to open these states when you look at north carolina when you look and these governors are under siege pennsylvania michigan and a couple of others you have to open these states it's not fair what you're talking about it's almost like being in prison and look at what What is happening with divorce, look what is happening with alcoholism and drugs, it is something very, very sad and it will shut down the whole country, this guy will shut down the whole country and destroy our country.

The country is coming back incredibly well setting records as it goes, we don't need someone to come and say let's close it okay you have two minutes sir now we move to you as I said posing the question. The president says it is a V-shaped recovery you say it is a K-shaped recovery what is the difference the difference is that millionaires and billionaires like him in the midst of the coverage crisis other billionaires have done very well Ray has made another 300 billion dollars thanks to his wasteful tax proposal and he only focused on the market, but you guys from home, you people who live in Scranton and Claymont and all the small and working class towns from the United States, how old are they?

This guy paid well, a total of seven hundred and fifty dollars. in taxes wait, wait, no sir, it's only two, yes, I understand you agreed to the two minutes, so please let him do it. Take back my time. The fact is that, in fact, he has worked on this in a way that he is going to do it. being the first president of the United States to leave office having fewer jobs in his administration than when he became president fewer jobs than when he became a friend first in American history second the people who have lost their jobs are those people that they have been on the front lines those people who have been saving our lives, those people who have been dying, people who have put themselves in the way of making sure that we can all try to make it and the idea that he insists that we keep going and let's open it when you have almost half of the states of america with a significant increase in deaths and covert cases in the united states of america and he wants to open it more, why does he want to open it?, why doesn't he take care of In the United States no The economy can be fixed until the greed crisis is fixed and he has no intention of doing anything to improve things at home for all of you in terms of health and safety.

Schools, why aren't schools open? Because it costs a lot. a lot of money to open them safely you know they were going to give their administration masks to teachers and students at school and then they decided they couldn't do that because it's not a national emergency they haven't done anything. to help small businesses, nothing, they are closing, one in six is ​​gone, he should get to work and take care of the needs of the American people so we can open safely, okay, time's up sir , let's get to I have to answer that, well, you both had two minutes, sir, excuse me, you made a statement for people to love your schools.

No people want their schools to be open. They don't want to be closed. They don't want their state to close. Your restaurants I look at New York It's very sad What's happening in New York It's almost like a ghost town And I'm not sure I can ever get back what they've done in New York People want their places to be open and they want to come back to their lives, people will be careful, but they want their school zone, I'm the one who brought back football, by the way, I brought back Big 10 football, it was me and I'm very happy to do it and it's Okay, Ohio people.

They are very proud of me and they are not going to understand that, we will get to their economic plans in a moment, but first, Mr. President, as you well know, there is a new report that says that in 2016, the year he was elected president in 2017, his first year as president, he paid $750 a year in federal income taxes in each of those years. I know you pay a lot of other taxes, but I ask you the specific question: is it true that you paid $750 in federal income taxes in each of those two years I paid millions of dollars in taxes millions of dollars in income taxes and let me tell them there was a story in one of the newspapers I paid 38 million dollars one year I paid 27 million show us your tax returns I went uh, you'll see it as soon as it's finished, you'll see it, you know, if you want to go to the board of elections, There's a report that's about 118 pages that says everything I have, all the banks I have.

I'm totally underleveraged because the assets are extremely good and we have a very, I built it. I'm asking you a specific question. Let me tell you that I understand all of that. No, Mr. President. I'm asking you a question. Could you tell us how much he paid in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017? Millions of dollars, he paid millions of dollars, millions of dollars, and you'll be able to see it and you'll be able to see it, but let me, Chris. Let me tell you something: it was the tax laws. I didn't want to pay taxes before coming here.

He was a private promoter. He was a private businessman. People like any other private person, unless they are stupid, follow the laws. and that's what it is, it passed a tax bill that gave us all these depreciation privileges and tax credits. We built the building and got tax credits like the hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue. You get a huge one which, by the way, he gave it to me. the Obama administration, if you can believe it, now the man was fired right after that happened, but Vice President Biden wants to respond, yes, I want to respond, look at the tax code that put him in a position where he pays less taxes than a school teacher earns with the money a school teacher earns is because of him, he says he's smart because he can take advantage of the tax code and he takes advantage of the tax code, that's why I'm going to eliminate the Trump tax cuts and We're going to eliminate those taxes and we will make sure we invest in the people who actually need help.

People need help, but why haven't they in 20 of the last 25 years? You were president because you weren't president, you ruined things, you were a senator, you are the worst president America has ever had, let me, let me tell you, Joe, I have done more in 47 months, I have done more than you. What we've done in 47 years, Joe, we've done things you didn't even think about, okay, including fixing the broken army that you gave me, taking Mr. President, we're talking about the economy. I would like to ask you about your plans in the future because Mr. Vice President, his economic plan if he were elected president focuses a lot on big government, big taxes, big spending.

I want to focus first on the taxes you propose, more than four trillion dollarsfor a decade in new taxes on people who earn the most. four hundred thousand dollars a year and on corporations, President Trump says that kind of tax increase is going to hurt the economy since it's just coming out of a recession, well just take a look at what's been Wall Street Firms analysis points out that my economic plan would create seven million more jobs in four years, number one and number two, it would create an additional trillion dollars in economic growth because it would be about buying American products that we have to make.

We are going to have this federal government spend 600 billion a year on everything from ships to steel to buildings and the like, and under my proposal we will make sure that every penny of that is done by a company with respect, so I'm talking about taxes who don't spend well, by the way, I'm going to eliminate a significant amount of the tax. I'm going to make corporate tax 28 shouldn't be 21, you have 19 companies, 91 federal companies, I mean in the Fortune 500 that don't pay a single penny in taxes, they generate billions of dollars, why didn't they billions of dollars?

Because Obama, because he actually approved that was his tax report, I did it and you know what happened, yes. you got it, our boom economy is never a boom, the economy president, let me, Mr. President, let me take that up again, you would continue with your free market approach, lower taxes plus deregulation, correct, not lower taxes, the American people, but Obama talks about the booming economy, it turns out that In Obama's last three years as president, more jobs were created one and a half million more jobs than in the first three years of his presidency had the slowest recovery since the night economic recovery since 1929 was the slowest recovery they also became take care of something that was down here all you had to do was turn on the lights and pick up a lot of things but they had the slowest economic recovery since 1929 let me tell you about the stock market when the stock market goes up that means jobs it also means 401k if you join if you ever become president with your ideas you want to finish my taxes my taxes I will do it I tell you what you will lose.

Half of the companies that have come here will leave and many companies that are already here will go elsewhere. They will leave and you will have depression like never before. Seen, we inherited the worst recession, other than a depression, in American history. They asked me to get it back. We were able to have an economic recovery that created the jobs you're talking about. We deliver you a booming economy. He ruined it. It wasn't booming, it was the weakest request. Is it fair to say that he blew it when, in fact, when there was record low unemployment, yes, before Covet, yes, but because what he did even before Covent Manufacturing went to shit? it was not complete sorry number two number three they said you would accept no you were number two no chris chris they said it would take a miracle to recover manufacturing I recovered seven hundred thousand jobs they did not recover anything they gave up the manufacturing standard They asked me to bring back to Chrysler and General Motors.

We brought them right here in the state of Ohio in Michigan. He ruined it. They left, he ruined it, and they actually left. Ohio had the best year it has ever had last year. Michigan had the best year they've ever had. It's not like any car company came from Germany, from Japan, went to Michigan, and went to Ohio. They're not happening and they didn't come everywhere Mr. Vice President so take a look at what you've actually done you've done very little your trade deals are the same way you talk about these big trade deals you know you talk about the art of agreement that China has perfected the art of steel we now have a larger deficit with China than we did before we have the highest trade deficit china with mexico china ate your lunch joe and no wonder your son comes in and takes out thousands of millions of dollars take out billions of dollars to manage earn millions of dollars and also while We're already at it Why is it just out of curiosity?

The wife of the mayor of Moscow gave her son three and a half million dollars. What did she do to deserve it? What did you do with the totally discredited baristas and by the way, hope you can? I don't get three and a half million dollars Joe, Mr. Vice President, you got three from the president, that's not true, actually, Mr. President, ma'am, it's an open discussion, please, it's a fact, well, there's no one who has raised an issue, let the vice president respond. discredited 183 thousand a month without experience or energy my son did nothing wrong at the beginning I think so Mr. president you do not want to let me answer because you know that I have the truth your position has been totally discriminated against by everyone well by the media by our allies by the world bank by all have discredited in fact in fact people who testified under oath so let me ask you this I'm listening to you people below you you have three and a half people testified he testified under oath in his administration he said I did my job and I did it very well I did it I would love to know who they all are well I will give you the list of people who tried it already have done it they fired most of them because they did a good job some people don't know it here it is all with you, wait a minute, you guys have the last word, well, it's hard to talk to this clown, excuse me, hey, let me tell you no.

No, I'm Mr. President, that's simply why he deserved three and a half million from Moscow. Look, here's the deal. We want to talk about families and ethics. I do not want to do that. I mean his family. We could talk all night. your family is fine my family my family lost a fortune coming to help us with the government and that's it mr president just one of them this is not about my family or your family it's about your family not him that not true, no I don't want to talk about what you, the American people, need, it's about you, that's what we're talking about, okay, that's the end of the segment we're moving forward, we're moving forward, he didn't take you vice president, except which can.

I will be honest, it is very important, try to be honest, the answer to the question is no, Ukraine, no, sir, with a billion dollars, you know what you are waiting for, it is not true, you are doing it, everything will be fine , true gentlemen. I hate to raise my voice, but I think it seems like why it shouldn't be any different than you two, so here's the date, good point, we have six segments, we're done with that segment, let's move on to the next segment in In that segment, Each of you will have two uninterrupted moments in those two interrupted minutes, Mr.

President, you can say whatever you want. I'm going to ask a question about race, but if you want to answer about something else, go ahead, but I think that's it. The country would be better off if we allowed both people to speak with fewer interruptions. I ask you, sir, to do well and he too well, frankly, he has been doing more interruptions, that's fine, but he does much less than sir. there is a lot, none other than you, let's continue with the issue of race, vice president biden, you say that president trump's response to the violence in charlottesville three years ago, when he spoke of very good people on both sides, was what It led him directly to releasing this. running for president oh yeah right president trump you have often said that he believes he has done more for african americans than any president with the possible exception of abraham lincoln.

My question to you both is why should voters trust you and not your opponent? deal with the racial problems that this country will face over the next four years vice president biden you go first it's about fairness and equality it's about decency it's about the constitution and we have never given up trying to demand equity for all equality for everyone America but we have never made it but we have never gotten away from it like he did it is true the reason I entered the race is because of those people close your eyes remember what those people look like coming out of the fields carrying it burns their veins bulging spitting and just spewing anti-Semitic bile and accompanied by the ku klux klan they killed a young girl and asked the president what he thought he said they were very good people on both sides no president has ever said anything like that The second point I want to make is that when floyd was killed, when mr. floyd was killed, there was a peaceful protest in front of the white house, what did he do, he came out of his bunker and the military used tear gas on him, so he could walk to a church and hold a bible and Then what happened after that, the bishop of that same church said it was a disgrace, the general who was with him said that the only thing he ever wants to do is divide people, not unite. people at all this is a president who has used everything as a whistle to try to generate racist hate racist division this is a man who actually talks about helping African Americans one in every 1000 African Americans has been killed because of the coronavirus and if you don't do something quickly by the end of the year one in every 500 will have died one in every 500 African Americans this man this man is the savior of African Americans this man doesn't care at all about this man He hasn't done practically anything, look, the fact is that you have to look at what he's talking about, you have to look at what he did and what he did has been disastrous for the African American community, so President Trump has two minutes, why should Americans trust you? about your opponent to deal with the 1994 racist crimes bill where you call them African American super predators the super predators and they have never forgotten it, they have never forgotten it, jeff, no sir, it's your two minutes, so you did that and they called you. a super predator and I'm letting people out of jail now that you've treated the black community, you've treated the black community as badly as anyone in this country, you did the 199 and that's why if you look at the polls I'm doing better than any Republican in a long time because they saw what you did: you called them super predators and you called them worse than that because you look back at their testimony over the years and you called them a lot worse than that in what As far as the church is concerned and as far as the generals are concerned, we just got the support of 200 thousand. 250 military leaders and generals.

Full support for law enforcement. Almost all law enforcement groups in the United States. I have Florida. texas i have ohio i have every excuse i portland the sheriff just came out today and said i support president trump i don't think you have any law enforcement you can't even say the word law enforcement because if you say those words you're going to lose all your radical left supporters and why don't you say those words? Joe, why don't you say the words law enforcement? Because you know, if they called us to Portland, we'd put that fire out in a heartbeat. an hour but they won't because they're run by radical left democrats if you look at chicago if you look anywhere you want to look seattle they found out we were coming the next day and they raised their hands and We took back Seattle, Minneapolis, we took it back Joe, because we believe in law and order, but you don't.

The top 10 cities in almost the top 40 cities are run by Democrats and, in many cases, the radical left, and they have you wrapped up. around your finger to a point where you don't want to say anything about law and order and I'll tell you what the people of this country want and demand law and order and you're afraid to even say it right. i want to get back to the issue of race vice president biden after the grand jury and the brianna taylor case decided not to charge any police officers with homicide you said it raises the question quote if justice could be applied equally in the united states do you think that There is a separate but unequal justice system for black people in this country.

Yes, there is, there is just, there is a systemic injustice in this country in education and work and in law enforcement, in the way it is applied, but look at the vast majority of police. The officers are good, decent, honorable men and women, they risk their lives every day to take care of us, but there are some bad apples and when they happen, when they are found, they have to be fixed, they have to be held accountable, they have to be held accountable. responsible and what I'm going to do as president of the United States is convene a whole group of people in the white house to ruin everything from the civil rights groups to the police officers, the police chiefs and we're going to solve this.

Let's solve this to change the way we have more transparency about when these things happen. These police officers are not happy to see what happened to George Floyd. These cops are not happy to see what happened to Brianna Taylor. I don't like it, but we have to have a system where people are held accountable when and by the way, violence and response is never appropriate, it's never appropriate, peaceful protest is violence, it's never appropriate, right? Thatis? I promise we'll get to the law and order issue sometime this month, your administration ordered federal agencies to end racial sensitivity training that addresses white privilege or critical race theory, will you? why did you decide to do that to end racial sensitivity training and do you think there is systemic racism in This country sir I ended it because it is racist.

I finished it because a lot of people were complaining that they were being asked to do absolutely crazy things, that it was a radical revolution that was taking place in our military, in our schools everywhere. and you know it, as does everyone else, racial sensitivity training. If you were a certain person, you had no status in life, it was a kind of investment and if you look at people, we paid them hundreds of thousands of dollars to be taught very badly. ideas and, frankly, very sick ideas and they were really teaching people to hate our country and I'm not going to do that, I'm not going to let that happen, we have to go back to the core values ​​of this country, they were teaching the people that our country is a horrible place, it's a racist place and they were teaching people to hate our country and I'm not going to let that happen vice president biden no one is doing that he's just he's the racist here's the fact is that there is racial insensitivity, people have to be aware of what other people feel, what insults them, what is degrading to them, it is important that people know that they do not want, many people do not want to hurt the feelings of others. other people, but it's surprising.

It makes a huge difference It makes a gigantic difference in the way a child can grow up and have a sense of self-worth It's a bit like this guy and his friends look down on so many people They look down their noses at people like Irish Catholics like me and grew up in Scranton despise people who don't have money despise people who are of a different faith despise people who are a different color in fact we are all Americans the only way we are going to unite this country is to unite everyone, there is nothing we can't do if we do it together, we can confront this and defeat racism, Mr.

President, I mean President Trump, sir during the Obama Biden administration. administration there was tremendous division there was hatred look at ferguson look you go to many places look at oakland look at what happened in oakland look at what happened in baltimore look at what happened frankly it was more violent than what I'm seeing now but the reason is that the democrats who run these cities don't want to talk like you do about law and order violence you haven't mentioned violence yet are you in favor of law and order? I am in favor of the law that you follow.

Are you in favor of the law? you asked a question in order with fairness where people are treated fairly and the The fact is that violent crime decreased by 17 to 15 percent in our administration, increased during his term, decreased much more, okay, Mr. President Mr. President, you will be very happy because we are not going to talk about laws in order because we had problems with cities governed by Democrats; That's exactly my question: There has been a dramatic increase in homicides in the United States in particular this summer and it is often blamed on Democratic mayors and governors, but in fact there have been equivalent spikes in cities run by Republicans. cities like Tulsa and Fort Worth, then the question is whether this really is a partisan issue.

I think it's a party issue. You can give a couple of examples, but if you look at Chicago, what is happening in Chicago, where 53 people were shot and eight were shot to death? If you look at New York, where it's going up like nobody's seen anything, the numbers are going up by a hundred and fifty, two hundred percent, uh, crime, it's crazy what's going on and he doesn't want to say law and order because he can . It's not because he'll lose his radical left supporters and once he does it'll be over, but if he ever ran this country and they ran it the way he wanted, our suburbs would be gone by the way our suburbs would disappear and you would see problems like he wouldn't have suburbs unless he took a wrong turn, oh I know he would have been replaced, he would have so much, I thought, wait a minute, I grew up in the suburbs, this isn't 1950. these dog whistles about racism no longer works the suburbs are generally integrated, there are many people today who take their children to soccer practice or whites, blacks and Hispanics in the same car as at any time in the past, what is the that really? is a threat to the suburbs and their safety is their inability to deal with greed, they are dying in the suburbs, their inability to deal with the environment, they are being flooded, they are being burned because their refusal to do something, that's why that the suburbs are interested, but I want to talk about this issue of law and order and in the joint recommendation that came out of the Biden Bernie Sanders task force you talked about, quote, reinventing policing, first of all, what It means reinventing policing and do you support it?

Let me finish the question: what does it mean to reinvent policing? Do you support the issue of black lives matter? Call for community policing. Look, what I support is that the police have the opportunity to deal with the problems that I and I face. I'm not totally opposed to defunding police officers, in fact local police are the only ones defunding in their budget demands a $400 million cut in local law enforcement assistance, they need more assistance than when They show up for September 11. Call to have someone with them like a psychologist or psychiatrist to prevent them from having to use force and to be able to deter people.

We have to have community policing like we had before, where officers get to know the people in the communities. That's when the crime happens. went down, not up, down, so we have to be on that's not what they're talking about Chris, that's not the place, he's talking about defunding the police, that's not true, there's no law. support he doesn't have law enforcement that's not true that's not look who you have name a group that supports you name a group that came out and supported you forward I think we have time, we don't have time to do that okay enforcement group of the law that returned, gentlemen, I think I'm going to withdraw the moderators and I want to get to another topic which is the topic of the protests in many cities that have become violent in Portland, Oregon, especially we had a situation more than a hundred days in a row of protests, which I think you would agree, you talk about peaceful protests, many of them turned into riots, Mr.

Vice President, you say that people who commit crimes should be held accountable, the question I have is as a Democratic candidate and before. Tonight you said you're the Democratic party right now, have you ever called the Democratic mayor of Portland or the Democratic governor of Oregon and said, hey, you've got to stop this, bring in the national guard, do whatever it takes, but would you stop the days? and months of violence in portland I do not hold any public office now I am a former vice president I have made it clear I have made it clear in my public statements that violence must be prosecuted and anyone who commits it must be prosecuted but you have never called the people, the leader, excuse me sir, you have never called on the leaders in Portland and Oregon to call us, bring in the national guard and put an end to a hundred days of riots that they can actually take care of. that if you stay out of the way look here oh really here oh really here is another nobody catch the murderer of the young man in the middle of the street they shot him and for three days President Trump move on sir and by the way you know your own former spokesperson he said that you know riots and chaos and impotent violence because that's what this is all about I don't know who said that I know who I think Kellyanne Conway I don't think she said that and here's that's okay, but here's the point, the point is that that's what he keeps trying to irritate everything, he doesn't want to calm things down instead of going in and talking to people and saying let's get everyone together and figure out how to deal with this.

What are you doing? You just constantly pour gasoline on the fire and every single one is fine and to end this button in this segment, I will give you a minute to respond, sir, you have criticized repeatedly, I have to respond to your things. I stayed late. No, he's been talking. He made a statement. I'm asking you. I would love to know, sir. I would love to know if he wants to change seats. We could do it very quickly. national guard would end, there would be no problem, that's fine, but they don't want to accept the national guard.

You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically denouncing Antifa and other left-wing extremist groups, but is he up for it tonight? condemn white supremacists and militia groups and say they need to stand down and not escalate violence in a number of these cities, as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland, are you prepared to do that specifically? I would say that almost everything I see is from the left, not the right. What are you? What are you saying? I'm willing to do anything. I want to see peace. Lord, say it, do it, say it.

What do you want to call it? Give me your name. Give me a white supremacist. And would you like me to direct this and write the prophecy? Guys, stand back and wait, but I'll tell you what someone has to do. something about antifa and the left because this is not a right-wing problem this is a left-handed director this is a left-wing white supremacist antifa is an idea not an organization you got it not a militia that's what your fbi said tonight your director of the fbi well you know what? No, no, we're done, sir, we'll move on to the next one.

Everyone, your administration tells you the truth is that you have a bad idea. Can I tell you what you have no idea? and Tifa is a danger, okay, gentlemen. now we are moving on to trump and black records and they will overthrow you when you are president. I'm going to ask a question when the president seeks a second term. Generally it's a referendum on his record, but you like Vice President Biden. to quote one of your father's sayings which is: do not compare me with the almighty, compare me with the alternative and in this case, sir, you are the alternative, looking at your two records, I am going to ask each of you why voters should choose. you, president, about your opponent in this segment, President Trump, go first two minutes because there has never been an administration or a president who has done more than me in a period of three and a half years and that despite the impeachment hoax and You saw what happened today with Hillary Clinton, where it was a huge scam, but despite going through all these things where I had to fight on both sides and behind me, you know, and above, there has never been an administration that he has done what I have done. the biggest thing before greed came in the biggest economy in history the lowest unemployment numbers everything was fine everything was going well and by the way unity was going to happen people called me for the first time in years they called me and said that it was time maybe and then what happened they hit us, but now we are rebuilding it again, a rebuild of the military, including the space force and all the other things, a repair of the va, which was a disaster under his command, 308,000 people died because they didn't have adequate medical care, it was a disaster and now we got a 91 passing rating at the VA, our vets, we take care of our vets, but we have rebuilt our military, the work that we have done and I will tell you something that some people say maybe the most important thing by the end of the first term I will have approximately 300 federal judges and 300 appeals court judges and hope

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y three great supreme court justices, that is a record like very few people and you I know one of the reasons I'm going to have so many judges because he and President Obama left me 128 judges to fill when you leave office you don't leave any judges it's like you just don't do that they left 128 vacancies and if I was a member of their party because they have a slightly different philosophy.

I would say that if you left us 128 vacancies you cannot be a good president, you cannot be a good vice president, but I want to thank you because it gives us almost probably it will be above that number at the end of this term 300 judges is a record looking at both records. Why should voters elect you as president instead of President Trump? He has two uninterrupted minutes under this president we become weaker, sicker, poorer. divided and more violent when he was vice president we inherited a recession they asked me to fix it I did we left him a booming economy and he caused the recession with respect to being weaker the fact is that I have gone toe to toe with Putin and made it clear to him We're not going to take any of your things.

He is Putin's puppy. He still refuses to tell Putin anything about the bounty on soldiers' heads.vote, when they are going to vote and what means they are going to vote their own director of national security in addition the director of the fbi says that there is no evidence that the mail and the ballots are a source of manipulation and cheating, they said that the fact is that there will be millions of people out of greed who are going to vote by mail and ballots like he does the way he sits behind the desk determined and sends his ballot to Florida number one number two we are going to make sure that those people who want to vote in person can vote because enough poll

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ers are there to make sure they can socially distance the polls are open on time and their polls stay open until the votes are counted and it's about trying to discourage people from voting because it's trying to trick to scare people into thinking it's not going to work to be legitimate show up and vote you will determine the outcome of this election vote vote vote if you can vote early in your state vote early if you can vote in person vote in person vote any way that is the best for you because it cannot prevent you from being able to determine the result of this election and in terms of whether or not the votes are counted and they are all counted that will be accepted if I win that will be accepted if you lose that will be accepted but by the way yes In reality he says he's not sure what he's going to accept, well let me tell you something it doesn't matter because if we get the votes it's all going to end he can't stay in power, it won't happen, it won't happen, so he votes. , just make sure you understand that you have control to determine what this country will be like in the next four years.

Its going to change? four more years of these lies, Mr. President, two minutes, so when I heard Joe talk about a transition, there hasn't been a transition since I won that election and if you look at corrupt Hillary Clinton, if you look at all the different people there was no transition there because they came after me trying to stage a coup d'état they came after me spying on my campaign they started from the day I won and even before I won from the day I went down the escalator with our first lady they were a disaster .

They were disgraced to our country and we caught them, we caught them all, we have it all on tape, we caught them all and by the way, you gave the idea of ​​the Logan Act against General Flynn, you better take a look at that because in in a certain sense we caught it and President Obama was sitting in the office, he knew it too, so don't talk to me about a free transition when it comes to ballots, it's a disaster, a requested ballot, okay, request it. Okay, you're asking, you're asking, they give it back, you give it back.

I did that, if you have an unsolicited vote, they are sending millions of ballots all over the country. There is fraud. They found it in streams. They found some with the name Trump. I happened to have the name Trump in a trash can the other day. They are sending them everywhere. They sent two in a Democratic area. They sent a thousand ballots. Everyone received two tickets. This is going to be a fraud like You've never seen anything else, it's nice that on November 3rd you're

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ing and you see who won the election and I think we'll do well because people are very happy with the work we've done, but what? did you know?

We won't know, we may not know for months because these ballots are going to end. Take a look at what happened in Manhattan. Take a look at what happened in New Jersey. Take a look at what happened in Virginia and elsewhere. We are not going to lose two percent, one percent, which by the way is too much, the elections could be won. Or lost with that, they will hear 30 and 40, it is a fraud and it is a shame and can you imagine where they say that you have to have your ballot by November 10 November 10, that means it's seven days after the election, in theory they should have done it?

It's been announced, okay, we've created your states with it, sorry, all run by David says two minutes, all run by Democrats, President Trump, it's a regular vote, you'll be able to continue, you've been charging for months and the vote. by mail is going to be a disaster, you say it's rigged and will lead to fraud, but in 2018, in the last midterm election, 31 million people voted by mail, which was a quarter more than a quarter part of all the voters from that year who voted by mail now. that millions of mail-in ballots have been issued, what are they going to do about it?

Do they count on the Supreme Court, including Judge Barrett, to resolve any disputes? Yes, I think I'm counting on them to review the ballots, definitely. Don't think well, I hope we don't need them in terms of the elections themselves, but for the ballots, I think we do because what is happening is incredible. I just heard I read today that at least one percent of the ballots for 2016 were invalidated. they take them we don't like them we don't like them there are millions of ballots going what you do is go and vote you make a requested ballot no it's not right I know where you're going I'm asking you about the fact that millions of people go and vote, go and vote , but because they think they used millions, you make, Chris, a requested ballot where you send it, they send it back and you send it, they have a mailman with a lot, did you see what's happening?

Check out the West Virginia mailman selling the ballots. They are selling them. They are throwing them into the rivers. This is a horrible thing for our country. It's not going to end well, okay, this is not going to be Vice President Obama, five states. I've received mail-in ballots for the last decade or more, five, including two red states, and you don't have to request the ballot is sent to you, it's sent to your home, what we're saying is they have to be postmarked to on election day, if it doesn't make it to the 7th, 8th, 9th, it still needs to be counted, you're just afraid to count the votes because you're wrong, I want to continue with you on this vice president biden because he's so wrong when he makes this happen.

Excuse me, Vice President Biden, the biggest problem, in fact, over the years with mail-in voting has not been fraud, historically it has been. that considerable number, sometimes hundreds of thousands of ballots are thrown out because they have not been filled out correctly or there is some other irregularity or it must be the deadline, so the question I have is: are you concerned that the supreme court with a justice barrett resolve any dispute, I'm worried about any court resolving this because this is the deal when you, when you apply, when you get a ballot and you fill it out, you're supposed to have an affidavit if you didn't know someone says that.

This is me, you should be able to do it, if you can actually verify that when before the ballot is discarded, that is enough to be able to count the ballot because someone made a mistake and didn't put the correct die in who they voted for, testify. who they voted for, say you're the one who's totally legit, okay, excited, I've got a financial senator flooding my system, you know it can't be done, you know it can't be done and that's it, the poll workers are currently prohibited by law eight. states even since they start processing ballots they even take them out of the envelopes and flatten them until election day, which means that it is likely that because there will be a large increase in voting by mail we will not know at night of the election who The winner is that it could be days, it could be weeks until we know who the new president is, so first for you, sir, finally for the vice president, I hope neither of you interrupt the other.

Will he urge his followers to stay? calm during this extended period so as not to engage in any civil unrest and could you promise tonight that you will not declare victory until the election has been independently certified? President Trump, thank you for joining my followers to go to the polls and watch very carefully because that is what has to happen, I urge you to do it, as you know, there was a big problem in Philadelphia today, they went in to watch, They called them election observers, something very safe, very nice, they were kicked out, they weren't allowed to watch, you know? why because bad things happen in philadelphia bad things and I'm urging me to marry my people I hope it's a fair election yes it's a fair election which I agree with one hundred percent but if I see tens of thousands of ballots being manipulated no I can accept that and I will tell you what that is from common sense does that mean you are telling other people to take their time does it mean you have a fraudulent election you are sending out 80 million votes they are not equipped these people are not equipped to handle it number one number two they cheat they cheat hey they found ballots in a trash can three days ago and they all had the name of military ballots they were military they all had Trump's name on them vice versa I think that's a good final question for you Vice President Biden Will you urge your supporters to remain calm while the vote is counted and pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?

Yeah, and here's the deal, we count the ballots, as you pointed out, some of these ballots in some states can't even be opened until Election Day and if there are thousands of ballots, it's going to take time to do that and by the way, our military has been voting first with ballots since the end of the civil war in effect and that is and that is what happened is going to happen why was it not like that why for them in some way it is not fraudulent it is the same process it is honest no one has established at all that there is fraud related to male imbalance that in some way it is a fraudulent process it has already been established take a look at caroline maloney's career you had the opportunity to look at caroline they have no idea why the president move on he has no idea what he's talking about here's the deal the fact is I'll take it and he will too you know why because once the winner is declared after all the ballots, all the votes are counted, that will be the end, that will be the end and if it's me, actually, that's okay.

If it's not me, I will support the outcome and I will be president not only for the Democrats, I will be president for the Democrats and Republicans and to this guy I want to say honestly, gentlemen, would you say this is the end of this? it's the end of this debate this vote counting we'll continue in more debates as we go uh President Trump Vice President Biden it's been an interesting hour and a half. I want to thank you both for participating in the first one. Of the three debates in which you have agreed to participate, we would like to thank Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Clinic for organizing this event.

The next debate sponsored by the Presidential Debates Commission will be a week from tomorrow, October 7, at the University of utah in Salt Lake City, the two vice

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candidates, Vice President Mike Pence and Senator Kamala Harris, will debate that night at 9:00 p.m. ET, we hope you see until then, thank you and good evening, thank you. Well, welcome back to Cleveland in Ohio, where we just saw that first. United States presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden the two candidates spoke for 90 minutes more than 90 minutes in fact they answered questions about the records of both men the supreme court the coveted 19 pandemic the economic race and in the end there the integrity of The election was sometimes moody, acrimonious with more interruptions than answers, but the debate will inform an important decision for millions of Americans watching at home who they want to lead their country and watching them leave the stage there and those closest to them.

They also leave the place at the end of that debate.