Another dead 5.4 3valve! Should the owner have the CAR WIZARD drop a new engine into this '05 F150?

I can't believe it, but

this

is a number 16 three-valve Triton. Time for

another

engine

, guys, let's take a look. This is a 2005 Ford F-150 with the 5.4 Triton three valve. This truck has a great history and I'll talk about that here in a minute, but

this

one is out of pocket. I've done so many of these I can almost do them blindfolded and they always cost seven thousand dollars a person, before they were about six thousand dollars a person but the motors are gone. up, everything's up, we're in kind of an inflation phase right now, seven thousand dollars each times sixteen, do the math, it adds up very, very quickly, in fact, we made a video about this many, many moons ago , it was a white Lincoln.

Mark, you can also go check it out. At the time I had a printout showing over 300 motors replaced to fix this issue and I'll show you more data here in a minute. It has gotten even worse. We will not go. put this on the lift or do something like that today because the motor doesn't actually work, it doesn't even work. This was sent here by the customer, who says it was actually his father's. I'm not sure if the father is deceased. now it was either my hand in some way or

another

it was an inheritance the

engine

is currently locked solid we will show you the tournament when I

have

a wrench we will try to turn it around but due to sentimental value they want to move on and the price really is not the issue they they want it done not too long ago when I made that video it really was almost not worth fixing these things seven thousand and you can almost buy a truck for 8 or 10 at that time but that's not like that now these trucks or any truck today in day they run in good condition or 15 20 30, I mean, I saw a 90's Dodge Ram diesel, three quarter ton that was in very good condition, low mileage. more than it was when it was new, we are living in really crazy times, so even if the truck has no sentimental value, it's almost worth it now to buy one of these and put a new engine in it now.

The problem isn't enough to file a class action lawsuit because they made millions of these trucks with these engines, but the percentage of you that actually buy one and get stuck with some kind of shitty engine like this is very high, still, I They are inundated with emails frequently. I bought one and it started working and the next thing I know it was a disaster. There is a common idea on the internet that you can put in phaser chains and a new oil pump and it will fix it. You don't need a new engine assistant. to

have

his arm cut off and put duct tape over it and say he's still alive, that's pretty cool, right, no, actually, this customer had upgraded Melling oil pump high volume timing chains and new phasers, It didn't even last that long and the engine seized up.

It wasn't because of poor workmanship, it's because the engine was very full of mud. I think there will be another video on this where we'll take the engine apart and investigate and see what's going on. Let's pull the engine here. Soon I want to show you more paperwork. I have a database that I use called identifix. They can type in an engine code, symptom or complaint and it gives them a list of what the common solutions were. How many of them do they have? has been replaced or gives you an idea of ​​what is going on in the market, sometimes it can give you the answer to the problem most of the time it just gives you a direction, an area to go to and 99 of the time it is

dead

, save I spent a lot of time diagnosing in the previous video, as I mentioned we found over 300 shops that put a new engine in these.

I printed it this time. I said it's probably another three, probably 400 this time. Guys, look at these 715 engines across the country. I can see on the side here it doesn't say cam phasing on a new oil pump it says replace the engine new engine new engine new on guys I can go on and on and on there is a common conception that only an idiot puts in a new engine you can fix it with phaser cameras no there are some junk stores out there yes but I doubt 715 stores are wrong and stupid and these are the only ones that are reported in our database that only stores use if you really look at the data it's probably 10 or 15 times more, so the question is:

should

I buy one of these with a 5.43 valve?

No, unless you buy it knowing it's broken, you'll get it dirt cheap and then you can pay seven grand to put the motor in and it might come off. to make it worth it in the economy we are in so lets take a look at the truck so for being 17 years old this truck is pretty decent it has a few dents and dings here it has been used as a truck and has decent tires . What I can see on the brake rotors as I can tell they have been sitting for a long time and that goes hand in hand with the story that they did a lot of work on the cam phaser timing chain and all that and it lasted a little time the engine seized, they were so frustrated that they just parked it and then I'm not sure what happened between whether the father had passed away or what happened, but they passed it on to the current customer.

The client would like this to work again. on the road it's just some dents on the tailgate, they're usually junk if they've been worked really hard on, not too bad, this is the fx4 package and as we go this way I see a rust hole in the corner from the cabin, but any of these trucks of this era are usually rusted on the wheel arches in the rear with the corners of the caps, so you can't really resist it, say, well, Dodges do that or Fords do that, they all do that, but otherwise it's pretty decent, not too bad. at all, let's go ahead and take a tour inside and see the solutions under the hood.

I know we start here, we usually give the mileage, but like the assistant said, this has been setting up for a while and the battery is

dead

. We're not going to plug everything in with the engine off, as that's to get that mileage. I'm so sorry, other than seeing a little bit of dirt, you know, I just need a good coating with some kind of I know the dash protector looks great, no cracks, no, you know, any major chips or anything like that . It looks like it has a new aftermarket JVC stereo, but it has been added and has simple dash controls.

I don't think Ford changes things that often. He added a cell phone speaker to the car so you know they can get hurt while driving, so they must have been in the car quite a lot, a lot of hard plastic here, but since these are 17 year old seats. They actually look pretty good, no major holes, just a few spots of wear, since this is an extended cab, we have a bench in the back seat that seats three and there appears to be enough seating space back there for us to an adult can fit there. Well, they have their hitch on the car, which I actually prefer because a lot of times when you leave them attached, they become great ways to bruise your kneecap when we go up on the roof, you'll see it looks really cool, it's fun.

A little rail system here that you can slide that system to the back if you want to have the storage there instead of the front, so that's kind of cool other than maybe you know a few dirty spots here or there. it stays up there it's not sagging it has no holes or tears so it looks fabulous so while we get back to our steering wheel which again has some serious wear it has simple controls here the door handle area it is simple. controls there, this is pretty much a standard Ford product, but we're obviously not here for the interior, let's see what's going on under the hood.

Well, I have a fairly long ratchet and 18 millimeters on the main pulley, obviously not. I'm going to put in a giant breaker bar and try to force it because whatever is stuck we don't need to continue damaging it, but with the long ratchet I have here I

should

be able to turn almost any engine by hand. so let's try it, see my pawls hooked to the main pulley there, if you look at this pulley here, the belt, you can see it, try to barely move, look at the belt here, so the customer is right, this thing is stuck solid, and that? could cause an engine to seize that way could be timing chain issues could be could be a crank bearing something just stuck stuck customers said they're not even interested in finding out what's stuck they said quote me a new engine i'm done with this so I'm going to follow your advice and your request and that's what we're going to do, whatever is going on with this, I don't even care if it comes out and disappears, let's take a look at the engine so these engines really They are not very difficult to remove, return to the hood.

The bolts can be a little tricky, you have to get all these coils loose and we usually just remove the intake manifold to make it easier to get behind the engine. The power steering pump here can be a little tricky to get to all the bolts. There is also an oil pressure sending unit back there that you have to unplug or you will rip and break it, but generally they are not that hard to get out, but as I mentioned before in other videos, ls based trucks are like the crazy ds 2008 ones, they are twice as fast to separate than one of these, they are actually harder.

In fact, I met Junior to put out one of these not for long. ago and said it was much harder than it needed to be compared to an ls based engine, the customer mentioned that while it is separate they wanted a quote to go ahead and simply replace the transmission with a remanufactured transmission so that's it. In fact, you don't have to worry about it, obviously the question cannot be answered: is the transmission okay? I don't know, the engine is blocked. We could put the new engine in and test it and then have to throw out a bunch.

As an aside, the customer says if the price is within the budget he's looking at, he'll just say green light, new engine, new transmission, let's do it with the protection of the truck, we would assume the miles are probably 100 150 maybe a little higher if that's the case, it wouldn't hurt to put a transmission in it if there's any sentimental value here, it takes care of everything and gets back on the road again, it has plenty of life left in it. You can enjoy your dad's truck for quite a while longer and, strangely, right now it's cheaper than buying a new truck or even a used one in good condition, it can be especially if you inherited it for free and then spend 10 grand on it or whatever is necessary. a ten thousand dollar F-150 and the engines that we install here have been taken care of, they have had modifications and upgrades to make the cam problem, the cam phaser problem, practically disappear, we use train product engines Take care of this problem with three valves out of the 15 I installed.

I haven't had any response. All of those trucks are still on the road traveling the highways based on that data. Basically I have an obvious answer: you'll get a powertrain. Three products. valve 5.4 triton as far as the truck is concerned, it is not the engine but just the truck. I actually like these trucks. They ride very well as if they are very comfortable. The brakes are very firm and the steering is certainly good. They are very good. truck, the downside is their engines, if you're looking at one of these on a dealer lot right now and you hear tick tick tick or even worse clock clack when the engine warms up, it gets worse when it warms up unless you're prepared to Spending that seven grand don't even talk about getting a deal, it's not worth it unless you get it really cheap because of that problem, but what the dealers let off their lot right now is really cheap, yeah.

There are no dealers that let cars be really cheap right now and I don't blame them because we, including you and me, are paying high prices, why would they lower their prices? They are there to make money. I'm here to make money, that's what a company does, there will definitely be another video on this when we take the engine out, take it apart and find out what blocked this thing, so you'll definitely want to hit that subscribe button if you want to stay up to date . with that, but I wanted to get an intro video for doing another one of these 5.4s, how they fail so often and in the docs I showed you how many are really crazy.

When I looked that up guys, I was surprised again. I thought it had doubled since I last made a video, so if you're curious what kind of tools we're going to use to get this three-valve piece of crap out, check out my Amazon affiliate link in the description below, we'll get a small cutout. and we really appreciate it and make sure to hit that subscribe button because not only will you want to stay up to date with all the projects and cars that are going on in the store, thanks for watching.