Holly Gets Into Heated Debate With Mum of 12 Over Her £40,000 a Year Benefits | This Morning

you say you worked 16 hours, yes, a week, you're a cleaner, but didn't you also tell us that that actually helps avoid the 26k

benefits

limit? Yeah it does, hey, is that why you work? Yes, basically, I have no choice. work like 16 hours and to be honest I don't have time to work those 16 hours with 12 kids but I have to to avoid the benefit cap. Do you think it's fair that you're in

this

situation now considering a 13th Child? At the end of the day, I don't make up the rules and I'm not the government, so I haven't said, oh, you could have so many

benefits

and obviously if that It's what they give me, I'm going to take it so that, if I do, I can have another child and the government allows me to do it.

I'm going to do it. I think what also seems to bother a lot of people is that the fact that you are unapologetically what you have nothing to be sorry about, what about the fact that you freely say that you know that not all the money goes to the children the 40 thousand pounds in benefits you receive a

year

? In fact, I'm very happy to buy you a blackberry bag and give you a gift about cosmetic surgery, so why keep having so many children? I love babies, I love children, it's the most wonderful thing I can do in the world, but going to turn 13, you say "You've told us that you're addicted to having babies.

Yes, I'm literally addicted to having babies. How Can't you put that energy into taking care of the ones you have? And that energy does go toward that, but I can. I can't help but feel Brodie. I can't help what I feel. I can't help one in another. That's right, yeah , is there a limit to that number? No, so you say you would like to have cosmetic surgery, you told us that I have the money to have cosmetic surgery, yes, I could save up for cosmetic surgery, which, obviously, that I would go out with a and and and the people who contribute to

this

kind of welfare state will pay for their cosmetic surgery.

Why? Why do you want to get a boob job? Because I just like a ridiculous size. It's so obvious that I would like to have that and improve myself There are many women who do breast jobs. There is nothing wrong. It is not to make you no. to help you with guys, no, I don't care what men think, I absolutely don't care, I'm not interested in men at all because you said that, that's why you're looking for a sperm donor, yes I would like that. a sperm donor no you don't want a man in your life you don't want anything from anyone you just want a jar literally a jar To be honest I might as well have had a jar for the 12 because none of them pay for it for the kids anyway, so it might as well have been the case, well, they leave me one man that way to pay taxes and we're all paying one way, no, I'm talking about parents who could Also, to begin with, I have everything that in a jar because they don't pay for their children anyway.

It's just that they have accused you that this whole sperm donation thing is just a press stunt. No, I want another baby, but. I really don't want another man in my life so I joined this group and I have been talking to people and I have also received offers and no money is exchanged. Dyer is there, I mean, this is someone. giving you their free sperm to do this and then they would have no commitment to that channel. I wouldn't want them to do it like that either. That would be my baby and how do you see that that baby is that that baby?

Another another child. or another source of income that has been my baby, but I, like you, would have said no to the additional benefits that come with that, obviously not, if the government is going to give me those additional benefits and I will take it to seduce you, are you OK? although you have to agree that there is a problem with the way it works. I can see why people get upset. I can see why people who go to work 40 or 50 hours a week make noise, but I don't make the rules. but I mean there's a lot of things we could do, there's a lot of things we could take advantage of, but it doesn't necessarily say you have to do it um well, and I won't regret that.

You feel guilty because I mean, I would have a hard time sleeping at night if I thought I was taking all this money and then one day, down the road, someone had a disability benefit that was being cut and therefore , you know, or they could have a young Harrod who takes care of them, who is a boy who is 14

year

s old, who is not, who has no money in the family, who then cannot continue studying and who is missing out on life. . I know, I know you're not stupid, you know that's the reality, so how can you sleep at night?

No, you know how important your children are, aren't you that person with a young caregiver, that their child is equally important to them, but they don't have that money because where? it goes to your pocket it doesn't all just go to me put it even though let's be honest it adds up everything adds up you put all those people together you think about it Lily no really I don't think about me you think about it normally and lazy not really because I'm not the one who makes the rules and I see that there are 12 future taxpayers and my children will do well you say that the press harasses you yes in what way and we went on vacation terminal auto a few years ago and the press showed up and was taking pictures of me and my children are regulars on our mission , yeah, really because it was a family vacation, why shouldn't I take my kids on vacation, aren't you playing press? can you take you can't have a thing you can't you can't you can't sit here discuss it I don't know if we're going to pay you today but you can't sit here are we paying here today so we will? fight, yes we are, so we pay you for this and then you complain to the press, on the other hand, it doesn't really work like that, yes, because that's my kids' vacation, that was the first time they were on vacation .

So for us and for them it's not their fault at the end of the day and that was special for them and to have them follow them like that and take their photo. I just think that was out of order at the end of the day, as it can also be done. Like me, but it's not my kids' fault and they deserve that vacation, so why shouldn't they? Because there are so many of them, if I had one or two and drove a terminal car that would have been iconic, if you had one or two then it's unlikely you would have done it.

You had the press behind you, but let's be honest, like everyone in me, most working families receive child tax credits and working tax credits, and that's all I get and child benefits. I'm not going to claim income support. I go to work and I'm doing these 16 hours a week and I'm the best I can be, but you've admitted that you're doing sixteen hours a week to avoid the captain, yeah, for more of the same and just click here and don't Don't forget that you can subscribe to more of these incredible exclusive videos on our channel. I probably have to put my leg on every day.

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