Joe Rogan Debate with Gun Control proponent "Our Constitution is Silly Let's remake everything"

and the justice system is obviously a really interesting thing to talk about in

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al law, it's a fascinating thing for people who study this idea that we argue about the Second Amendment, like, let's let

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al lawyers argue a lot of those things and we should all understand that and I'm curious about it, but I would like our Constitution to be nonsense too, like let's redo

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right, the document that was written by some of the greatest minds in history and that established basic rights for It's nonsense to all Americans, that we all like a bunch of kids who play with Lego blocks to just throw

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away and rebuild the most powerful successful country in the world from scratch simply because our Lord and Savior Pete Dominic thinks that everything It's

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, like if we have that conversation, it's so much better that we can have it. a serious conversation about what kind of guns and bullets people can have, not thinking about something else they can't have, just jumping up and smashing my feet on someone's couch like I know something to do, come on I had a little more More sense that that, yes, I know that my few Netties helped to have a serious conversation about what kind of guns and bullets people can have, without thinking about what they can't have, like I want to have a conversation about what bullets and weapons the people can and can have.

We haven't had, but not a conversation about what they can and can't have really, that's the conversation where we should be now everything is regulated everything there are tradeoffs in healthcare there are tradeoffs and everything but Americans are now so divided, they want everything what they want, but that compromise is something we don't do as Americans, much less in government. That's absurd. We have over 300 federal gun laws in this country and 20,000 at the state and local level. I've become more committed than in fact, we're going to need some of that back. I heard that what I'm saying about the gun issue, the most positive part about the mess of the gun issue is that even if you made guns, even if you said you can't have bullets, everyone will go to jail, there are so many guns. that you will not get them all, it is not possible because there are more weapons and there are people, which means that there are more than 300 or something thirty million weapons. there, our country alone is absolutely the most important point in the discussion, that's a crazy number.

Man usually stops and thinks about that number, and asks himself: what is that real? There is nothing crazy about there being 300 million guns in this country that has a second amendment. We have almost as many cars in America as we do, people have cars for convenience, people have guns to protect themselves, among other things. I don't see why this is so hard to understand, but you don't actually stop behavior by necessarily creating certain laws about why someone might behave a certain way and shoot people, that won't necessarily change what you do, i.e. limits access to certain types of weapons and rounds of ammunition.

This is just a

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statement and what makes it worse is that he thinks he is saying something profound: murder is illegal, this would be a law that would limit the behavior that you said doesn't work, drugs are also illegal which would be a law that would limit access, which you said would work, however, I would like to direct you to rampant drug use in every major city in America, yeah, well the real question is why would anyone do that right, that is the number one question, not like women, it is a more difficult question to answer, the easiest answer is to make them less accessible, yes, if we people who have problems that we cannot solve, that is not a question in the first place It's just childish, to think about the idea that we could just create a law and instantly all guns would disappear and, as I mentioned before, if that work didn't happen there would be everything from drugs in America to violence in movies and violence in video games, does that have an impact on them?

I'm not the person to answer that question about whether or not it has an impact on your variable. It is a variable that I think deserves discussion. Don't know. If it's really no, I don't think it's because I didn't think it deserved a discussion, well let me clarify this point, then it's up to you if you think it deserves a discussion, okay, violent video games have been played at a much higher rate in Japan and they don't have the gun violence that we have, that's a good point, they have a very different culture, although the way you don't have access to guns by Pete's logic, the more guns a country has, the more gun related homicides. has the United States. the most guns in the world, yet we rank 30th in gun-related homicides.

Do I really need to say anything else? It's true. That's all. They don't have many either. They have had some ripe ones. It's the access I had. I've shot guns I shoot guns I understand I have nothing but respect for hunters I grew up in a hunting community so I don't respect people who own guns for self defense and to protect this country but I mean I don't know. I don't think there's much discussion about access to guns that can fire so many bullets and quickly kill so many people. I don't think we have to get rid of them somehow, but I agree on how to do it, yes.

Basically, you want to get rid of all guns because they are all semi-automatic, even the ones used in mass shootings, and none of them shoot faster than the other. My semi-automatic pistol, she is as fast as my AR-15, that is the The most important point is already 330, there are more guns and there are people, so what do you do? By the way, I think you buy as many as you can, you sure spend a lot of taxpayer money, it just helps, by the way, there is a ton. of people in trouble right now who have a rifle like, oh my God, I'm not going to be a living striker, my insulin, let me get rid of this AK-47 so I can live another month, you buy some weapons, it's a good expense of money. and then melt them down and turn them into furniture for people like this.

This is just a silly statement. Have you ever stopped to think that there are so many guns out there because people really want them and the government uses the money I pay? Taxing me to offer me a fraction of what I pay for my gun will not incentivize me to sell it to you when I can sell it on the commercial market for double or triple what the government is offering and let's be honest. If the government gave me more than I paid for my gun, I just sell my gun and then use the money to buy a more expensive gun or the same gun and then some ammo, so if you want to do that without changing the Second Amendment like you just have a buyback where you just offer people the opportunity to make some money by turning in their guns.

In my opinion, the Supreme Court has misinterpreted the Second Amendment. I mean, it doesn't say that people should have until In 2008 it wasn't said that anyone thought that people should have a personal right to have guns until the Heller case, but I don't think it's necessary to talk about the Second Amendment. I think people just have to agree that these weapons should not be sold studying this idea that we argue about the Second Amendment, like letting constitutional lawyers, I think, argue a lot of those things and now you're saying that the Supreme Court, the court full of constitutional lawyers, misinterpreted the Second Amendment. oh stop talking about the Second Amendment, I mean it's a big trade, no, because people can have guns, you can have guns, you just can't have these guns anymore, yeah, we already had that law, it's called the Law National Firearms, but if you ask me that. the law is incredibly unconstitutional the second amendment didn't just say these guns it said guns you ban machine guns and now you want to ban this in my arms yeah what were you saying again about compromise?

Where are those? You know all these weapons. there are no restrictions anywhere, right, and they work. In the city you can have a gun, yes they work, I don't even think you can have one, you can have a switchblade in New York City, yes, Cyrus Vance, the DA is terrified that they will. We are changing the federal government's law change because they know those gun laws in New York work very well and El Paso was ranked the second safest city in the US. I need to remind you that El Paso is in Texas and shares a border with Juarez, Mexico, one of the most dangerous cities in the world, please stop, Pete, there was no one-to-one correlation between cities with no gun laws and cities with strict guns. laws, let me also point out that New York City isn't even in the top 20, and I almost forgot, there are more pro-gun cities on the top 20 safest cities list than there are cities with strict gun

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laws, well and by the way. people always argue well, they have those gun laws in Chicago, there is a lot of violence, that's because Chicago is on the Indiana Board and doesn't allow guns to cross the border, so why doesn't Indiana have the same weapon? violence like Chicago Q again by your logic, if Chicago has the gun violence it does because it shares a border with the state that lacks gun laws, why doesn't that state have the same, if not greater, gun violence in Chicago, Are those the gun laws? work, they work well Chicago is also in the middle of a bitter war on drugs, well, yes, I mean, that's where the violence comes from, but we should have less access to those types of weapons, like any other civil society in the world, Come on, this is like yeah, except over ninety-five percent of gun violence in Chicago is committed with guns, what is that about?

What is the Second Amendment exactly as written? The right to bear arms should not be infringed, so how do you think that? the supreme court misinterpreted that in the 2008 alec case everyone should simply cover up the work of erich segal whose regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state and the peaceful right of the people to keep and bear arms must not be infringed, yes those commas are argued by constitutional scholars for a day yes the Supreme Court didn't decide until 2008 that Americans had the right to own their own gun once again this is so dumb if the militia weren't the people they would have said that the militia's right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed like, come on man, stop it, you're embarrassing yourself, that's just as crazy a statement as when you read it, it's very interesting because we're going back in time trying to find out how he thought. people in 1776 about weapons and whether that applies to us or not, because if it doesn't apply to us, we have to think about in 1789, a group of normal people banded together forming a militia with their personal weapons and fought against a tyrannical . government that was trying to take away their weapons and immediately afterwards they wrote the second saying to protect this new free and independent state that we have formed after coming together as ordinary people with our personal weapons to fight against a tyrannical government that is trying to take away our weapons, the right of the people to possess firearms will not be infringed.

We know exactly what they were thinking. There is nothing cryptic about the motivation behind the Second Amendment. The whole gun thing is a money-making business. That's what it is, it's a way. you sell fear like you. I mean, home invasion is every family's worst fear, but it doesn't happen much, nor do kidnappings or many of these crimes, my Holika, our generation of parents are helicopter parents, terrified of everything that is not true. that's true, don't let your kids go outside, you're right, think they're going to kidnap your kid, you don't know anyone, okay, mass shootings account for less than 1% of gun deaths in this country , but you want to ban guns for something that happens less than 1% of the time, while home invasions happen far more times than mass shootings, millions of people every year use guns to defend their lives, Pete, you have no idea What are you talking about, who had his son kidnapped? you're generalizing because it happens to all asians sometimes right but that's not how we should make laws but again you want to make a law that bans gun use using less than 1% of gun deaths so it doesn't We have to exist as everyone would.

Kidnap your son or everyone will break into your house, but to say that kind of Allens is that sometimes it's real, that's why people want to be able to have guns because sometimes someone can break into your house and people have defended their house and their property with handguns, but is it a way, is it a realistic threat or is it something that the gun industry creates these amazing ads and scares people, oh come on, the man's crimes are real, see if the crime certainly continues being real per year. from 1994 to 2010 it was 1 million 30,000, that sounds pretty realistic to me, Pete.

I think the clear point is that the reason we have so many guns in America is because there is a lot of money to be made from them. I think we could absolutely limit and regulate them and have areflective conversation. I think that's where most people are, although I hate that generalization which is like saying the reason there are so many cars in the world is because you can make money with them, duh Pete, it's called capitalism. clearly people agree with the Second Amendment because they are buying guns, thus creating a market to sell guns. There's something to that, but there's also something to the reason we have so many cars that people love.

I'll have that conversation, but I read from everyone. cars, good things, I think we have a thoughtful conversation about guns and why each of them is part of our culture and not another culture. the way other cultures and countries regulate their weapons, the problems they have, Ours, I'm sure we talk because we are free people, Pete, quite simply, we are the freest country in the world, that's why you can say the ridiculous things you say. You are saying it now without being prosecuted because we are a country that prioritizes freedom and if you do not have the means to effectively

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your government or effectively defend your life and/or that of your family, you are not free and you are not the most effective tool to do it. all those things are a weapon, that's why other countries regulate their weapons the way they do because they don't prioritize freedom, mental health, but the problem with that conversation that people don't want to have is that everything costs money , that's what you have to pay taxes paying taxes is the price of civilization what does it have to do with mental health? you have to pay for people to help people run I can't advocate in Republican or Democrat government for this is what unfortunately Trump and Republicans have advocated for Let's get mental health solutions to violence.

Let's do it, everyone is behind it, except they cut Obama's care programs that funded mental health. You simply can't, you have to spend the money on providing mental health. It is a problem that must be addressed. but it is not the main problem, definitely the weapons and the bullets they contain. Gun homicides affect less than 1% of the population and mass shootings are even fewer. Guns and bullets are not the main problem, especially when we already have over 20,000 guns. laws of this country and if guns in bullets were the main problem, knives are the main problem in all car stabbing accidents and drunk driving accidents etc.

Pete, you have no idea about the conversation about freedom, like the Second Amendment to me. It's just your interpretation, well whatever your interpretation is, that's the interesting thing, it's a health care problem and what are you talking about, no, Pete, the fact that seventy thousand people died from drug overdoses is a health care problem. medical care, six hundred ten thousand. People dying each year from heart disease are a health care problem. Six hundred thousand people die from cancer each year and it is a health care problem. Two hundred and fifty-one thousand people die from medical error is a health care problem.

Guns are not a health care issue. They are a question of rights and that right was clearly expressed the day they said it should not be infringed and it is so extreme that really if you want to know the answer to health care you should talk to public health experts, they have those answers. I have the research, but let's wait what research on one well, they don't have research on they don't have enough research on weapons violently on them, I'm talking if you want to know the solutions for what is impacting and creating death by any measure accidental death right, but we're talking about gun violence right, health care professionals have the solutions to gun violence I think there are many health care solutions I think certainly surgeons have argued why certain munitions have destroyed the inside I think public health officials They've argued that all the pediatricians argued this idea that you can't ask a parent if they have a gun at home because the gun lobby is against that because they're building this conspiracy that the government is going to track your gun, why?

What else would the government want to know if you have a gun in your house? That's terrible. Your pediatrician has to ask you. Do you have a swimming pool? Where do you keep the poison? Where are the weapons? Because God forbid. You are not responsible enough or educated enough to know that that kid could accidentally get that gun and it happens all the time. It's funny, he says kids are accidentally killed by guns, which is less than 3% of gun deaths, it happens all the time, but the millions of home invasions, yeah, that doesn't happen often enough. enough to justify having a gun for protection.

This is crazy, there is a rule against that. Yes, public health officials and doctors are pretty much on the same page with this issue, these guns and mental issues. health I think experts: I don't know, maybe there is a big disagreement and if there is, I'm glad to be wrong on this or any nonsense. I said you said a lot of nonsense, Pete, unfortunately, there are too many people. out there saying the same dumb thing right now there is a culture war against the Second Amendment so I need your help to spread our message to counter their message.

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