CÓMO JULIO CÉSAR CHÁVEZ SE LEVANTÓ DE SU MOMENTO MÁS DIFÍCIL - ENTREVISTA DEMENTES PODCAST

Hello everyone and welcome to a new job of insane people, I am a barge worker, as you already know, I am in charge of this program, they have long and pleasant attended conversations with all the guests and all the guests are very cool in what they do today, they are with me I had the honor and pleasure of being at Julio César Chávez's house. If you don't know who you know, Chaves is the best guy in boxing in Mexico and a legend worldwide, you can see my entire career in the description of this episode or in the note of the episode 2 dot mx so I didn't overwhelm you about that, what I do want to warn you about is that this is only the first part of two editions that we are going to have with Julius Caesar on this occasion to tell a little of the history of the context of backwards and The next session that we are going to have with him I am going to have to ask him everything that you come down here who knows so please let me know in your comments that I missed asking him if you would like to practice what things you have not heard of he would like to know and with much I like the next session, what to do with him, I know what you buy and what, I hope that in this episode with the champion Julio Cesar Julio, welcome, also, thank you for being here with me for a little while, you're having serious problems at your house.

I didn't think we were going to record here when I Carlos said, hey, well, let's record at home, he left and I told his mother, this bastard, but I also know that throughout your career you have opened your doors a lot to people and you have always been a person despite being at the top and so on. accessible and maybe it's better to start there because because he has always been so friendly so open to everyone and everyone willing to know that well it's not the best because I'm from Sinaloa well even so I add they are now but have lived all my life in public in the new one and notice that when the couple I heard you that Carlos was coming very and Carlos in the car well the car had no girl we have listening to you interviews with Fidel and I told Carlos III different the doors that he has received here to everyone and to the international media and Others and it is a privilege to have the 7 that not many people receive.

You are one of the special ones because as I said, I really liked you and the interview because you were endlessly very sincere, very open and useful without filters and that is what I like. Well, that's what we're going to do today, let's talk without filters, let's go through everything. I've discounted your story on many occasions and you've told the whole topic of how you grew up and how you started with your family and how you got to the top. I want to touch on several topics. specific but not that I don't want to understand what it feels like to have everyone open doors for you everywhere, you haven't reached a point where even the dad really opened the doors of his house and his room and everything is not how you manage to mediate that as a person it is not normal it is not normal to have that power and that access to things and you who started from scratch how it was way how it feels well it was not easy at all it took me a lot of work to find a lot of income one point you say it the truth is that there were many years of fighting and that was what opened the doors to everyone.

What you say, the truth is that it was a little difficult and complicated at first because because I come from a humble family, you understand me, I am not very good at speaking like a president of republic or with an important change they always throw me away I get self-conscious I forget sorry but always with a being seen in the belly because if I took away all that it is as if it is the edge of speaking with former presidents or with presidents or with very very important people How did I achieve this because it was many years of work, did you achieve it and how would it be because there are other athletes even today who have many achievements and yet they have not earned the people or not or they do not open the opportunities to them well look it is that really I always fought apart from Felipe for my family but for the party people it was something very very thick something very curious the photo like that because why when I fought for the world championship for the first time I was totally a stranger you understand me I was a stranger, logically, if they knew me in Culiacán, but more certain certain people, not all of Julian, and part of the boxing, it wasn't pay-per-view, it wasn't like that, that's how it is, so if it was so relaxed when I fought for the world championship, maybe because Culiacán I was very young at that time I knew about 500,000 people I think at that time and when I was crowned world champion it was something so incredible the truth is that all of Culiacán welcomed me the airport was something it was the book that has been a few more days more joyful of my whole life because because one dreams of that when one has nothing in life one dreams of having cool things and 12 but it is a dream that few achieve or that they really set their mind to as one says oh and I hope one day I will have such a thing but You're just watching TV or sitting watching the web or something, but it's not the same, that is to say, I dreamed about that and apart from where I'm fighting for myself, yes, for example, and look, I told my mother to love, logically, I had that dream, not me.

I didn't think about and of course sorry, I thought and dreamed that I was going to change the world and I dreamed of having floats and having mansions for having billions of dollars and then I remember that I watched myself ironing and washing, oblivious to my mother and I didn't like them, you understand? I got angry I got angry and it didn't help because yes I was very young so I call them when in the world I'm going to take them out and iron them I'm going to take them out of washing and ph other people and my brother believed me tempt me no he didn't believe me and he scratched me the head if there are many when I go that undertake the world never and when I become world champion thank God thanks to so much effort and dedication when I arrived here seeing the world I told my mother mom I told her why because you got married very young she says Do you understand me then and well yes further afield I got married very young and but but but thank God I got dialysis his house I bought his house and now I get something I'm doing well if the prayer really hears and when was the moment in which Did you realize that you had already done it when you said, it's all mine, I'm a badass, it's just that I never thought that, the truth is, I never thought that because I always had the pot of challenges when I was crowned, I walked the world, the most I had won in a fight is that money that pressures me to fight because it is 30,000 dollars for us so for me that was a world of money between then if I improve nothing in the world also in my first defense I was going to win 100 thousand dollars it was written in the contract although then I I said my God one hundred thousand dollars a lot of money if with those six thousand dollars I make a single efe if I retire but what are you going to think what destiny had predestined for me I was only saying an open defense and currently I am the boxer and he has retired with more defenses in the whole world 37 there is no aside with a lot of fights that before today will not be like that they fought four times a year miss and buy it is more strategic the matter money there is more money there are many organizations many champions world championships and before again there was only one world champion, very difficult, it's good that now in any event anyone has 4 or 5 in the USA they love to do the baseball world cup and no younger between the United States and the cup I don't know what and no more in The United States may not be good, but it's fair to say that if I retire to defend the title, I had 100 thousand dollars and I could retire and so on.

I suppose that on several occasions you could have said that I have the nerve because I can get out of being poor, yes, but it continues. Expanding on what I was making you say, I am forming information for more if they already have enough to say with this I can live and what happens is that look it was a process for example I was world super featherweight champion 130 pounds 59 kilos and it is called defense of my championship and I never won more than 200 thousand dollars I made nine defenses in all of them never together topics 200 no no not clear yes no I didn't win 150 thousand dollars 770 but I never won more than 200 thousand dollars in one defense until I fight for another world championship that was the light price when he and with audio rosary that he sought the light world title that is 135 pounds 61 kilos there I remember that they paid me in that fight to fight with the champion I was the challenger they prepared 750 thousand dollars I want a world of money and after winning that fight and there wasn't and there wasn't any fight where they were where he won't win more resignations maybe the glory they didn't perceive clearly I hope the bitches have literally not only me but logically the girls or why because there He has something to fight with the official challenger, there we have to fight with the one who was still there, do you understand or unify the title with the other champion?

It wasn't that he would fight with this one. I like it because it was easy and because he is famous, no, no, and I was fighting with the official challenger. and it was mandatory and if they didn't take away your title and not now, now the champions send the order to the organization. You understand me and the truth is that it's a pig because with all due respect, there is no champion, what do you say, you know this is the champion. of the division and it is the absolute no, for example in weight any weight there are four or five or six world champions many interests there is not a lot of money involved if you wish unfortunately and fortunately yes the truth is you wanted something different in your career nothing the truth look nothing look, why I am achieving what everything I achieved is already done, you understand and logically if I had taken care of myself at the end of my career, maybe I would have arrived without fights undefeated and that would be something incredible another task I am talking to the best fighter myself the best American of all time but the best fighter of all time you will have me because imagine we continue I would have taken care and 90 undefeated fights if I had taken care of myself and I always invite them tell me who no one in history no but he is still the biggest bastard because you I say the same thing, not today's topic, whoever reaches that point is hard, someone reaches it so easily, if you are going to take it, they are more, they are going to be very bastards.

You don't know. No, neither you nor I are going to see it, with all due respect to the others and those who are listening to me, we are not going to see it for him either and how you maintain the pressure at that moment, how do you do it, that is, let's see, there comes a point while you are going in your career and you're growing and you're winning and winning because there are always people who are going to die, and one more, and one more, and one more, but there comes a time when people start to say, in all the things that happen, hey, there are many, and let's see when lose and now when to lose when to lose and that could have started at the 40th or 50th fight and still they are a lot of shit that you have to give how you manage that in your head and how you stop saying what if I lose a habitat and then I really want to and if I lose, it's right now how you handle it, it's not that it was a very big pressure, true for me, the truth is that he knew me, he learned the world and avoided, therefore, three fights undefeated, with that being 44 years later, my light world communicator later unified The lightweight then went up another division I looked for the super lightweight I was crowned then I unified it I won it and it was weak selling us and every time for example when I reached 60 undefeated fights I said I each feel undefeated fights are a lot and when it goes 70 80 productive always thinking good I'm going for the 59 for the 60 now I'm going for this one that was going through your head and you could share a little bit of the process that is scary you are nervous when every time I got on a rhythm it was scary and and 7th nerve in the truth because now the The truth is that I felt the weight of a nation behind my mind, what was a blessing at the same time became a very great pressure, the truth is because wherever I went, wherever I went, people were always encouraging me and you don't go.

Let's lose, champion, give it a try, you bastard, we both want you to continue, he invented and it seems that it wasn't a huge pressure and it was nice that they were fighting, the bans wouldn't go away, it was crazy, the gas ones couldn't, he couldn't even walk in Las Vegas, Nevada and I couldn't go out. of me from my room because the people in a madness was very very complicated that the truth was not as bare as it says in the mass it was not an assault of saint the truth is but we should be grateful and grateful for that affection with that love that All the Mexicans have me, it's incredible, the truth is how the megas were paralyzed, you can't take a step, the truth is, I couldn't leave, it was crazy, the truth is, it was crazy, and that's why I think there was so much euphoria from Mexicans all over the world. people no no my friend gave me a little you don't understand me nor do you understand me that you give me dieux' on the wrong path that you have because when I reached 90 fights in windows I felt that I had achieved it I still didn't digest it I already have The dream, the dream that I had of the boy when I was young, has come true.

My understanding is that he has millions of dollars. He already had us, thank God, and when I finished everything I could dream of, I already had my private plane. I already had my yacht. They already have it. mansions and I felt empty champion said my God what's happening to me what's happening to me and that's where we looked for the most stupid and stupid thing that was drugs and that was hell for me present to the void what it was like to say with macho camacho the party I got to my house and I felt like it seems like God told you that because that was when I tried the drug for the first time because because that fight was crazy, whether it was a fire fight something historical involving Las Vegas it was crazy it can't happen I went nowhere he told me that they told me that I was paralyzed that they were waiting for that fight I arrived here I was received by everything legal I went to Mexico from the airport to Los Pinos the people in the streets that is, I got outside the father arrived with all respect but that's how I understand myself and that's where I tried the drug because of a setback and you tried it because I've heard that it's not the same.say ok I'm going to try it in a moment party the moment I'm happy I feel good a moment I have this this pressure or this emptiness I tried it at the party selling world it would arrive macho camacho do you remember that since this day was it was this thank you very much to God well no no I never never kissed him such a mind I never wanted to accept it because he was an athlete that wasn't that for me but that day there was so much madness so much euphoria you understand me gay that ready for here because each hand is designing in well and I tell you one understands Yes, the truth is, I don't think I liked her very well, you understand, I didn't like her very well, but after a while again and I started to get hooked, you infect me, bastards, sometimes this is for me, I don't understand, so I thought I could let her stop quickly. but but it doesn't use I got hooked because because it's a little little a little little little little little little little little until the truth until it hit rock bottom and at what moment were they you said I can't control this anymore although many of us are you say hey little and I can leave it and a little bit and I can let it go more now because I'm happy look look I kept winning fights after the fight macho camacho keeps fighting but my preparation was no longer the same it was no longer the same you understand me but the mer didn't have it either it's the same no no no no no longer, the truth is no longer allowed with respect to boxing, I was losing respect for myself, the truth is I was no longer preparing myself the same, no longer trained the same, the drug was beginning to affect me a little, the drug was beginning to lead me to fight with my wife with the people closest to me then I was already beginning to do my will not to get up at six in the morning to run to train with God I would like to understand me and if the drug left her for a month and a half now it leaves her for a month and then fifteen days after a week and then two days and so they don't have until I couldn't see anymore, ma'am, about something from day to day, from security it's something from the day to day and it became hell for me and while you were in it you were aware I'm having a hard time but I can't leave it if you don't, I ask you why it would help people to understand what the process is like.

I know that today you have clinics and you help a lot of people, but people see it from the outside, many times we don't know what it is. What happens inside the head of someone who has this disease yourself, you understand a little bit about this, I don't get away from that topic but to understand that while you are in the disease the problem was like two, look at everything you thought, believe is that Darwin is very sad. The truth is very sad because I knew it was wrong I knew it did a lot of harm I knew it hurt my loved ones you understand me I knew they cared about me you understand me but I was worth it mother you understand me now what I wanted was the drugs and The rest was worth it mother mind in sign I only thought about me in me in me in me I'm fine I'm fine and I'll wet it with God willing with God I dropped my pants and you fucking leave me alone and start converting In a person, then self-centered, it is a mother, if the 1 is true, if they want to take away your drugs, they mean they want to take your life, they intend to start fighting with everyone, you understand me, start sending the girl, I will take your mother, your children, Your wife understands me and with the madness you start to treat your wife that is, you don't start to become a person that you are really not you.

You understand me but unfortunately the drug makes you become a person the worst you understand me but seen while you are doing like this you know what he is doing like this but you can't but you say screw his mother yes but but you say you go in the afternoon it happens to us good for everything I fix it on the other side but I don't know on the contrary he leaves he leaves going more more more and more and more and more and then it starts to become crazy you understand me why why you doubt 2 10 5 without eating without without without sleeping and you start to see the I would start some with tranchete start to see that your wife deceives and that your mother wants to steal from you that your children start like six offerings and if from impression to madness you understand me and this bastard you start to see the I started to scream that he didn't want to listen maybe to pay for new things and he becomes a martyr hell the The truth is that in my house I had it and the upholstery and I began to listen to the one who told me that he was there.

He began to dig with a hammer, oh my God, how barbaric, despite trying to talk to my wife and the tutor, my friend, they understand me, my children. Lack of respect for my mother, who of course I love her so much, told her to check it out and the people who want to help me didn't want to rain, I didn't give her access to my house, you don't have a bodyguard and that's where height comes in, people just like me. call now it's the people I wanted what they think and those people were the ones who took me to hell that a new boyfriend came to me that I was about to take his life I was about to take the life of a brother of mine this agent in my house I wouldn't let him out they kidnapped him I beat him but so much chaos champion you completely lost control you totally understand me I started to lose millions of dollars I started to lose cars from Reynosa to sell I started to lose everything from what you tell me it would be impossible to use that you say I completely lost control, it's impossible for just one person to come out of that for a few days, no, or how was the first bit of light that you began to see?

You said, "I'm going to get out of here," or "Where did they go?" gonzález because what you say is impossible if you don't want to receive anyone if there is no separate person you will be surrounded by a lot of negative people and they will go to my house because the people I have will take advantage of it not the most wanted drug traffickers in the whole world they sent for me I woke up with them you understand and without eggs you have to be friends 7 the first time 7 when I really couldn't anymore Miriam my second wife and they take me supposedly to a clinic in Guadalajara and I so that they wouldn't be screwing you already understand me because I was already vomiting blood in the hospital several times and there was our point of taking my life, they had tried to help you formally before 7-2 and thus came to add that you had to have armed bodyguards in my house and all the rallies and that day they brought me water no I accept, no, he said, well, so that we're screwing, so that you leave me alone, I'm going to go to Guadalajara for a month too, although it's okay to say a month, but I'm going to have my room with my television, you understand what I mean, they gave me a soccer field, Vinci Bonano said.

Well, it's not going to be bad here, here I spend a month and only children in the center, yes, of course, July and Omar and 100, hey, one about soccer because they also cheated on my wife, well, how is Wayne doing, the bastard, he came to a soccer field. football vinci with a sinc to every mother no here I am going to have my room and on my television and all the titles that my children leave and she calls me the godfather some friends some friends who are a great champion and judges because marie today They put a spoiler and they put the fucking iron door on me just like that and back and forth and back to 120 bastard these pigs are all very thick and then they tell me it's humility to tell him that he told him that the spell unit bastards but why because why Today you're going to be here I'm going to say more he had his told him that you don't know who I am learn something I tell him if who was there I tell myself you're one of Tomás' mother I'm the great Mexican like a defaulter get me out of here and nothing more for them 5 bastards and pass the 5 the blocks dad hit me a few for so many but he told me the five but it was his reputable mother but with 20 bastards then they hit me with a holy bitch or between all of them between all a tiptoe and ties me up all the name pass the four bitterest months of all, my angry prince, I swear to God and I couldn't talk to my wife, I couldn't talk to anyone or anyone, you're locked in a closed room, there was no moment in those four months that you said, well, actually, you accepted here.

I'm humble or it took you a while how long did it last to have I am the Mexican charm and everyone screws their mother being already locked up among the first the first month the truth is that I spent it almost tied up tied up the truth is in the month and a half They released me and I was already beginning to have a little bit of a miracle. He says you have me because for everything there has to be unity to live. Food says humility with food. You are always nobody if you are an equal to everything else, like that apart with your hands behind you. the view in front and and you can't talk to anyone and that's how it has been but no but because I'm here that genetics proposed everything to pay my 4 everything they didn't mark me for this for what values ​​bastard why did he value that he here in mate whoever steals bastard because your brand and again the corner of the man who made with his mother here in matter I here stole ended up here in viola or not to deserve I that late flew fucking dogs I'm going to know I'm one of the founders of nuclei a company in the that we are not topicals and nutritional supplements to help you achieve more many of the guests and listeners of insane people take the notebook hack to perform more during the day and break to sleep better at night for being part of the community of minds I want to give you a 20 percent off your next purchase using the Minds discount code All of our products are made with ingredients of natural origin and designed to help you have more energy, better mood, more focus and more concentration.

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Imagine having the unemployed people continue in the corner for a month. Guys, there they charged and pissed themselves like that, like that, they tried to tear it off, like every time in the eaves, no no no no no no, and I went out to the week they forced me to resent the family again and again, you understand me and again on the verge of dying you understand me and again to go through hell once again making my children suffer making my mother suffer and the people around me You understand me again and I was like that for two years until I came to Tijuana and here is Miriam with deception I was going to have an endoscopy and this is not the doctor he was a friend of mine and I looked at him that he would participate like now and what church Yes, it's not good because practically so many people and a big car I'm in the pension for a copy to have it because because I didn't want to fall asleep so they could take me to the clinic and I was there for five and a half months and there I was able to recover and things in life not to do last month two months ago fulfill or remain clean and the day and what things of destiny in the truth minute your son touched so that on his birthday the day the doctor injected and came here to my house because his son has a little cognitive problem and he has a problem.

The boy put gloves on him and shows it in the bag and everything and but what things in life, that is, on the same day that I am admitted and in the middle birthday well he came to see me and without knowing what you feel he knows how to mix when you practice this it is seen I see you that it returns to a courage that returns to you you live it again I do not feel that you live everything to the surface as you see back that moment of the first confinement and then the second time if this artesian courage in the sense that what they did was wrong or do you think that everything was fine 8 that you would not have not come out no look at this the second time I also went to that one there I did know it was that it was my wife Miriam and that it was my son Julio, they made the decision no no no the truth is I wanted to bury them and kill them you have me but not today they know that I thank them from the bottom of my heart you understand why because they saved my life You understand me, they saved my life and they changed, they changed my life, my way of being has changed and now I'm going deeper, you know, I definitely believe that God has given me another chance at life and I'm taking advantage of it, the truth is because it's gone to me, you don't know the truth. received pure pure blessings logically the problems will never end what a good change of course you understand me and you have to be prepared for everything understand why because if you are a little careless it goes back again I don't want to go back like how do you make it through the day every day it's something they say it's like an alcoholic no and yeshe is still an alcoholic and every day every day you think about that superb thing about visiting today not today not even normally that I am fighting my illness or what the process is like in your head the stress what it is like just for today change in the truth this It has been very difficult, very complicated, really.

The first two years, the girl in the studio was one step away from coming back again despite not exactly wanting my clinics. Well, it's because when I felt like I was making a point of falling again because of anger. Because of the sadness I understand why joy is complicated very difficult I change a truth and more car is going well the money begins to arrive like this in full hands full and I know well that you have why because it is not action because it is the you understand me that It's the iii and it has been very very very complicated very difficult and that's why I put the criticism in mind I went to the clinics for the same reason because I wanted to commit to myself because I started to like this life you understand me at the beginning I didn't like it at all I'm honest with you The truth is that nothing makes sense to leave sober if this is what forgiveness is for me and I felt that nothing motivated me nothing gave me joy nothing gave me joy understands me daring and from there fight in this life no no I will relapse again again damn to your mother you understand me ok but she is not there anymore when when she has her recovery program when you have psychologist friends friends of consultants in the clinic well you go structures with them you understand me when I feel anxious when I feel that they are not going to take drugs I will The clinic of my testimony from Zuwara Tribuno said you know that I want to take these vinci mother I feel bad how I do it and the truth is I don't want to go back again because because my life has been hell and I don't want my family to suffer and I don't I want to suffer, you understand me, so it has been like this in my life in Culiacán or in Tijuana and I am always surrounded by positive people like Carlos Peña, like Jorge Peña, you understand me, they are the ones who always accompany me, Carlos for the United States, for Mexico, Jorge also for for this for Mexico and since they don't drink they don't drink either and they get high because we are on the same channel so today we went to see Peña took us to see the clinics and it's just another world compared to what you tell me about That institution in Guadalajara here is a whole process, they explained it to us and we saw everything, they have a theme, a support system of a psychological treatment system, therapy and so on, so as to no more scene, it took you away from different and ccoo the body, not but this because I imagine that there is also a topic after seeing all the people who tell their mother to be screwed, the feeling of guilt, the best thing about you, grandmothers, I'm already clean, now, how did you deal with all this fishing that I did, I don't know, I can't, that's why.

That's there, there are only 12 steps, you understand me, there is a step where it says where it says that you have to apologize by asking for forgiveness from all the people you offended, you understand me, okay, and thank God, I have asked for forgiveness and apologies, actors who offended, thank you. from God like my mother to me that wife Amalia we also get along very well 7 to my children to my mother to the people closest to me you have me my friends to all of them she apologized that it wasn't me I found out if everyone understood it grace of God and on that side saying he visited calmly you understand why because if you I offended many people in dimension like how and I have to a little bit of topic for like how I would do it to someone for not how you realize that you are about to fall into this thing of falling or relapsing, well, it's the same in both of them, well, well, wood, as you realize, it's not that it's really a bastard, that is, when the first time you take a drug you don't realize it until you take it. try, you are always going to be always exposed because there are always friends or do you have friends who say they are your friends but they are not your friends because a friend I am sure you do not offer yourself that you do not offer drugs can offer you a metallic beer you understand me and Who knows himself because if he knows that this damage he is not going to offer to give you but one of his friends who are your friends but he eats marijuana or uses cocaine or uses tainted pills or something and he offers you that our friend you understand me that is your enemy that you have why because sooner or later you are going to fall, you understand me, you are going to fall and it is going to be difficult and complicated to get out after hell, you understand me, and that friend who gave you for the first time is going to continue giving you and then it will no longer work for you.

Just give the bastard and then you will have to buy mind like that, what do you think right now about this whole issue of marijuana is already legal in many cities in the United States, there are many people who say friend, it's not right because it's not, it's not a drug that is going to harm you, you who have already gone through all this, what opinion do you have about it because they say that marijuana is this is medicinal, no if they make it, yes, yes, it really does help people to heal, well, they are welcome to add it, I hope but it seems to me that no, no, the truth is, with all due respect, because because look at me in the clinics, there are a lot of people who are pure marijuana and you know that they make us psychotic because marijuana today is highly synthesized like It is said to stay seated, it comes with a lot with a lot of chemicals so the people are incredible but with a churro of marijuana they have dropped the clinic on us psychotics psychotics you understand me and let's see what you tried it is pure marijuana the marijuana from before no longer no longer no longer there is no more Now you understand the milk so much so much with all due respect that it is the truth of functioning and it drives you crazy it is not going to change the topic I want to ask you what you mentioned a while ago you mentioned several times and many already mention it on television that you are a friend of all and thank you to all the drug traffickers, many of the prisons, lips to many people from entertainment and to everyone else in the world, but especially I want to know two things or I have two very curious doubts when, for example, a Carlos invites you or would he not go to his house and come? to eat to dinner and lehman who talk uses that such as because there are also those who say later that you were using or as an image but you what a talk that it is practical in a president not as I said like that the the the the possible not that it runs like that He is also going to build you but with a bow he shows how it is a friendship so what topics does it seem like at the table?

They talk about boxing they talk about politics what happens but look I just greeted President Salinas de Gortari and apart from that as President he was a friend of mine but also As a former president, he has been a very, very good person, a very good friend of mine. The truth is that we practice, well, we talk about everything. Do you understand me? In other words, he tells me how you, as a state of July, like you physically, mentally, well. I, president, he knows perfectly well that I am, I am an alcoholic. recovery, you understand me, we practiced many anecdotes from the past where they came to the national square and they gave me my records under the water that you said, bastard, that's a trap, bastards, they just left my secretaries, he told me that he gave you to make times and all of lying, bastard and the fight like macho camacho comes here a drunk and esm they have practiced a lot too but above all he gives me a lot of pleasure that he has nothing much pleasure in recovery mind it is because he told me julia be you are worth a lot champions take care of yourself you are anyone you you He says one thing has been in the first the first the first person first athlete what is it that the people that the people that all the people love him the short people the average people and the tall people and this is never followed in an athlete and you He is the first, take care of yourself, he says because you are worth a lot and you always give me very good advice, thank God and you are doing very well.

The truth is that I talk to a chapo guzmán who talked to a beloved cheek and also what to know if because one thing is with Díaz your friend and be good so we keep pace but when they come to look for you for the first time and this man looks for you to see if you have a party three movies that is he told him like on the nerve he mentioned what has happened if he told him something that I'm wrong they don't continue Logically, look, the first time I met beloved Carrillo, El Chapo Guzmán al azul, then you love each other, beloved, and well, if it was a little nervous, then why, well, imagine, they were going to take me to my house, three armored cars with a box, all fully armed, Villa. to follow the pattern oh bastard says well put modules and then they make me look like friends rather than enemies so I was going I didn't need to start practicing and practicing the groups that are two years old I never practiced with them laden of the drug trafficking nobody how were they and champion who is We offered it, he had the fight and wrote a taranta he goes before your groups but I already had the mention very advanced and he takes out the airbus bag we go into the bathroom and today we lasted about half an hour and throwing girls at each other through the nose and practicing fighting and all this and that and I told them, Wisner bastards, they are not going to kill me, your girl, mother or whatever my champion thinks, what are we going to do to our idol and everything like that, basic but the truth and me They gave away chains of these violence, no, they wouldn't fit, I mean, it was always cordiality, you understand me, the friends, the truth is, we never talked about drug trafficking, and they never offered me the president today that I became a mediator, not a party that didn't affect me because I was going to see the president and then Culiacán arrived and he sent for them and they never and never asked me anything.

It works to God how to know so many secrets from both sides and of course not because you know well everything from one visited from other of the artists but they respected me they respected they respected and Professionally, they knew perfectly well that my reasons were that mine was my passion. You understand one thing was that we were friends. I always told them with my friend, propose me none of this, as the truth is I was not born for this. I am your friend. and after fighting among them champion and I was left in the middle and they continued to respect me although thank God when they fought I was very scared because I was a friend of Nozari I was no longer a friend of El Chapo I was a friend of the mother and They all fought, oops, then, Jehovah, the mother said, "I'm going to stay.

It's necessary because I didn't know that they weren't any more friends than the hot dog, so I was left in the middle. You understand me," I said to Haiti, "but not everyone sent me to call and say, I know that July isn't with you." We have nothing, bastard, tour, our friend, our hero, and on the contrary, we are going to defend you and we are going to take care of you, and thank God, to date, it has changed. Hey, how did you do it because many people have had a story similar to yours in the sense that I'm doing well?

Then he got into a problem, whether it was drugs or he just lost my concentration, which made me get to where I am today, but many of us recover and stay or lose everything, lose money, you have managed to get back up today today since you are doing a Exhibition fight in about 45 days with him with the tooth, you are with the naughty one, by the way, buy your ticket from superboletos.com. This program can be seen everywhere and everywhere in case in the US to slam the door in Central and South America, see by espn and in doctor in doctor you just have to buy it through superboletos.com cool I have today you are just recovered from all this you are making the decision to support your cause how did you do it to get up from something that seemed unliftable and not only I prefer to get out of the problem of addiction or recover from addiction but rather to make money again, to do business again, not to lose people's affection and to remain connected to all your work in my file among Aztecs, like, well, how did I do it, thank you to my recovery thanks to my recovery thanks to the fact that they were able to trust me again you understand why no one trusted me no one wanted my champion when I was walking in five senses no one wanted to see me 32 everyone closed the doors on me on Friday it was something very very sad for me Look, I was going to die being the best but I don't like it all the time but who is going to remind me how we time someone is going to remind me how he died of a heart attack from an overdose and about two mayors and he never recovered and fat goodbye and this, thanks to a recovery program, is what has kept me, you understand, it is what has given me everything back again, you understand me, because this champion recovery thing is something blessed, I tell you, I tell you honestly, when one has a problem with organization and alcoholism and you go to a champion recovery center and you are there you suffer them and you suffer them if you suffer them for a year or five months and months it seems that it does not change but God blesses you God blesses you and everything returns to you again to come again to recover to overcome is something great and thanks to me my recovery in desire was work in espiel among Aztecs of talks today I sign gloves autographs well the truth is I have a final work the truth is that it is incredible how like how like everything has blessed me the truth is something that we can explain changing I swear to God the only thing I have received thanks my recovery is for the blessings pure blessings it is about to end it is not time it is going to be taking you and signs of Carlos this They are the points that you raised all my guests are specific questions I have the question answer yes salient what has been one of the best advice they have given you look at the worst I get that the the best advice they have given me I tell you honestly champion is do everything whatever you do but don't take drugs that's the new one with his commander do whatever you want but don't take drugs and don't drink what is the memorable lesson of your parents but my couple I remember with there are many with a lot of love a lot of affection The truth is, with great sadness, also why, because my father suffered for success, you understand me, but the best legacy he left me is to be honest and hard-working.

Well, to finish, we do not have time left, what would be of everything you have experienced, everything you have experienced?professionally, personally, you had a series of learnings if you had to come up with three learnings that you would like to always keep in mind that were like your compass draw life lessons which would be the fall if you got back up and never let yourself be defeated and there is always a phrase that dreams come true through effort, dedication, perseverance, work, but above all the discipline that is the basis of everything, thank you for having listened to this episode until the end with the great Mexican champion Julio César Chávez, you already know that if you have any suggestion that ask him in the next episode what am I going to have with him please leave it here in the comments I would also like to know what you learned the most from this episode and if you think someone will listen to this it will be good for them please share it you know that too It helps us a lot to reach more people now I say goodbye I am Diego Barrazas this was an episode of minds and we see each other now every Thursday and every Monday in new episodes of

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