Jason Kidd chooses LeBron over Jordan as the GOAT – Skip & Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED

Whenever I evaluate a player in their chosen profession, I never use what they did off the field in that argument because that really has nothing to do with how great a player you are in your chosen sport, so when I look at this , yes, Lebron James, what has he been able to fulfill our promise, has he been able to address social problems head on or did Michael run away from that, but Michael wasn't the only great player in the 80s and 90s, they avoided things like this , This is not like this. The way players are currently trained, they're not only socially responsible, they're morally responsible and they feel like they have an obligation, because of the position they're in, to say, "Okay, this is my community, let's "He could easily have been my son." brother, my friend, my cousin or something of that magnitude, so he put it aside.

I'm just looking at things strictly related to basketball. For me, it jumps out what he has been able to do, how he has been able to do it and for as long as he has been able to do it. do it,

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james is the best player in my opinion, now

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, you could attract 100 guys and you could get 50 different answers 50 50 for

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, you could get 75 for lebron 25 for

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, you could get 80 for jordan 10 20 for Lebron, okay, but to me, what he's been able to do for as long as he's been able to do his skill, but I look at Lebron James, he's currently seventh and assists, he's 106 behind Magic, he's 293 behind Mark Jackson, who is five, is 294 behind. steve nash, if he averages what he has been averaging this year, will be in the top four of all time in assists all the time, while he is about to pay almost at the same time, he is about to be the number one scorer of all the times. ten championships, yes, he lost six, but to go to eight consecutive finals and reach ten finals, the man has been in more finals than everyone, with the exception of the Celtics and the Lakers, I think that says a lot when you look at how he has done made.

It's all the NBAs, the MVPs, the finals, the MVPs, the final appearances, the entirety of his work, that's why I said I'm not afraid, look if you put in obviously if you leave the court, it's not even close. he's not even close but I'll take it no no no I don't think he doesn't take into account that I don't know it's like he's not even close it's not even an argument. I mean, it's just ridiculous, game over, right, yes, of course, because to me what Jackie Robinson did was tremendous, but now I'm not going to say that he is the best, the best baseball player, because of what happened off the field.

Not well. Going back to Jason Kidd, I think Jason Kidd is a lot like Tom Brady in the sense that deep down, privately, he's his own man and I think he's very opinionated and I think little of what he says publicly is what he believes. deep down, in private. He has become a head coach, company man, politically correct, he is a better coach this time, he has the marriage, yes, they are on a tear, in fact, you can argue that they are playing the best basketball of all in the Last years, maybe, well, more maybe. More than that, I can go back almost two months, they've been on a tear, you have Luca playing out of the business and he has a lot.

I'm a big Rick Carlyle fan, but I think he was exhausted with them and they with him, right? That's cool, you have to change the voice, well, and vice versa, and I think he's done with Luca, you know he was shooting Lucas who wasn't in shape, okay, so the point is Jason, it's that Super Bowl link that We just talked to Tom. and ba, that will never go away, well Jason was an assistant coach and was assigned to Lebron. In fact, I think he was Lebron's private coach in a lot of ways and they won the bubble championship, so you can't take that away and it's a bond you can never break, so he's always going to lean toward Lebron in any of these types of discussions. , so if you ask him publicly about Lebron I, it doesn't surprise me at all that he says he's the

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. but his logic, his reasons, I don't love it because he says that I think Lebron will be considered the best for doing it when you look at his numbers, what he has done on and off the court, no one has done that .

He's fine with your points if you want. to get off the field you have me finished it's all lebron all the time I can't argue with that you also make a good point today's players are all more likely to do that yes so it's not that it's not fashionable to do it or it goes against the grain or he is not popular, I think that was when Lebron started well and I think he was at risk of losing some sponsorships, but I don't think he lost any, no, because a lot of people loved what he said, all colors loved it. what he was saying, so he won there and if that's your argument, then you understood me, I give in to that and then he says that when you look at his numbers, okay, these are all longevity achievements and if you want to throw him across the table .

You caught me because he is playing for a long time at a very high level and I go back to what I told you about Carl Malone. I can't get too excited because Lebron finally passed Carl Malone when he passed him. Lebron had attempted 521 more. shots that Carl made in his entire career 520, that's a lot of shots and then, if you take into account the three-point shots, Carl in his career made a total of 85 three-point shots, well, Lebron has made two thousand one hundred thirty-seven. so that's two thousand fifty-two more than Carl did, so if we do it multiplied by three because three is greater than two, that means that Lebron has scored six thousand one hundred fifty-six more points than three that Carl could achieve.

Add, if you do the math, he actually should have passed to Carl a long time ago, but

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, you have to realize that Carl was a back-to-back basket player, so a lot of his stuff was layups and off-the-pick dunks. . and roll so it's not like he's throwing the ball from distance as much as lebron, you know what i saw a lot of karl malone, i campaigned for the mavericks to draft him and it still bothers me that they didn't, but the point was He was a lethal mid-range shooter, yes, he could pick it up, it was beautiful to watch and he took and jumped a lot and it was like automatic, he just drained them like they were free throws, yes, and by the way, speaking of free throws, Lebron is a great shooter. 73.4 career free throws and by his superstar standards sorry that's just me but you leave a lot of points on the table there so if you're an 84 like jordan or an 88 like kd in your career right ?

Well, then you would have surpassed Carl even long before that, but first of all, God wasn't going to make six-foot-eight Steph Curry able to shoot the three like he does so he could drive the ball. basketball like Giannis and Lebron. and being able to post like embiid, how fair would that be, he didn't, he didn't let jordan shoot the three ball like he did with steph curry, so you can't make everything jump at you, so you want the man to be. able to drive the ball like it's as durable as he throws the three balls like steph curry having a midrange game like kevin durant damn kevin the red one doesn't have it all if we're talking about

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, the goat, I know real goat, no The fake one had everything.

I don't know well. They didn't emphasize it. It wasn't a priority. Listen. I know it. If you had said this out of season. I need you to go perfect your three-point shot. I would have, but they didn't make it essential. It wasn't what he did. Lebron realized it in year 19. The three are better than the two. I can score faster from three. He has taken eight per game. The maximum amount he had taken was 6.2. last year, but here's the thing, if you look at Jordan, if you look at Kobe, as they got older, they started playing farther and farther away from Nebraska, so Lebron says instead of shooting an 18-footer, I might as well stand in the corner and shoot. go a couple more feet and I'll get an extra point if I make the shot, meaning I jump, I mean, I could miss both, I could miss three, but if I make both, I'll get one more point, so the evolution of the game . obviously, but it jumps up as you start to get older.

Jordan couldn't fly through the air like he could when he was in his 20s and 30s. Kobe couldn't fly through the air like he could when he was a teenager when he was in his 20s and 30s, so obviously you have to do it. evolve your game if you want to stay involved in the game it's not a light skill it's not like Brady because Brady's game wasn't uh uh um it didn't rely on athleticism okay just go back and move on from it I'll get rid of football okay, if he was a cam newton like cam newton, cam newton's game was calla murray athletics lamar jackson athletics game they're not going to play 20 years because there's no way they still have that athleticism so unless you get your game, Lebron has been able to evolve his game and still let that sink in, he jumps, you talk about the guys who are the MVPS uh uh giannis embiid and jokic lebron is 10 years older than almost all of them and he is there, leading them. score, so this shows that he is involved in this game, but he has taken the most shots in the league, so it doesn't surprise me that he is leading the league in scoring, which became his priority, but there are many guys who have done it. he led the league in shots that didn't lead the league and he scored, but the fact is, here you are in your 19th year and to play at this level, did you ever think you saw someone and you're? 19 no matter how well they played at this level, okay, this is the area where Lebron reminds me of Jordan in '98, the team I covered, the last dance team in Chicago, that Jordan was still sensational in the Bully Ball, he was such a grown man.

I worked really hard with the great Tim Grover in weight training, true, that was getting over the bad boy pistons first, but at this point in 1998, he could just brutalize you in the stall, he didn't care how big you were, he I could play. grown man's basketball, that's what Lebron still plays under his belt, that's the best thing he does when it occurs to him and he starts getting in the low post, no one can stop you yet, but you have to think about it, jump, think in what. How old was Jordan? He was 33 34 in 98, he was fine and he had neither the games in his legs nor the threat.

Lebron is three years older with so much more play, so many more minutes of longevity, longevity, shooting, I'll give it to you, but me. I'm saying he's spectacular, but he wears you out when you have to play so many minutes and you ask him to keep playing the type of game he could play in his teens when he was 20 years old, he can't play that skill. He plays 40 minutes and drives continuously after drive ends the play get to the rim he can't, no one can, so what does he turn to? He's now 14th in the league in three-point shot attempts, that's great, he's top 15 in the league.

Yes, but his three-point percentage ranks in the bottom third of the league. He shoots 36 percent. We will live with that. Well, you're living with it because he's always been nice about it. Three points below average. 36 is good for him, well you can't have it all, just saying, but it's the bottom third of the league. I think he's 99th out of 147, so you want Lebron to be able to handle the basketball like he has. 19 years old he shoots three balls like Stephen Curry at his apex he has the mid-range game like Kyrie or Kevin Durant and is capable of making free throws like a ladder burger.

I'm just saying he's lasting longer than anyone at this level. game but he continues to play at a very high offensive level to the detriment of defense. He no longer plays defense for me. Tim Duncan has been a defensive player in the NBA 15 times in his last years. How was he on defense? Very good. No. he wasn't no he wasn't I think he tried hey you don't think Lebron is trying I won't try and like the first two possessions he'll act like he really is but this is what they were. I didn't ask Timmy to give them the points because they had Kawhi.

I remember that was the moment when they passed the torch to Kawhi, but Tim Duncan all he did was play defense and protect the rim, but what I'm saying is that you can do it with your head. just like your body at that point you see the bad with them chase well from time to time he's going to get someone they call it gold without gold in it you see throw that get that out of here the ball was coming it wasn't coming down it means that He will eventually come down to gravity, but Lebron was up there so high that he wouldn't come down until he got the ball.

Gravity is really getting to Lebron. I can not say it. tell him hey did you see that don't go kevin love kevin love said it's a lot gravity hasn't affected lebron james yeah when lebron gets a lead from the top of the circle running downhill yeah still can compete with Duncan, although he never did he participated in a slam dunk and talking about having guts or not having guts again the obvious deficiency the difference the key difference between jordan and lebron is that one guy had the clutch gene in the closest gene and the other one just doesn't have it and it's been evident this year, there have been at least 12 games that the Lakers should have won where they were there and they needed the king, the scoring title leader, to just say, "I got this, I got this." I'll take charge of the game in New Orleans." You're up 20 at halftime and you can't close that deal, no, and it's because you finally staycold from three and you missed three in the final minutes of the game.

Well, 20-point games aren't the same as they used to be. because of the three ball because it will put you back in the ball game when you covered it and when I was growing up watching the NBA, you rose to the top 20, that's over now you wake up at 20, you wake up at 25. Boy, team, you know, You turned the ball over the next time and the team scored a couple of threes that they didn't cut. That thing is down to 15. Now suddenly the crowd is back in the game and you have hell on your hands to try to take them down. 19 years is still going strong, that's all, I give it to you and that's all it has.

The only argument is longevity and he held on to his hair along with you, but that means something longer than Jordan, yeah, well, is it his hair? There you have it. I don't know, by the way, they shot Lebron's hair at the Oscars. The other. The night we get into the big controversy, Savannah hasn't slapped anyone, that's what I say to everyone, everyone, thanks for watching, you can subscribe here to get the latest from the show and make sure you see more of the best

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