AVOID These Foods To Slow Down Aging & Look Younger! | Dr. Anthony Youn on The Genius Life

the skin is usually not a pinkish red color like I

look

at you now and you have a little bit of pink on your skin, there is some pinkish color which is a sign of vascularity and good blood supply. Now sometimes it is too pinkish red and that is a sign of inflammation, what are the main

foods

that can accelerate the

aging

process that people should generally try to

avoid

or at least reduce their daily consumption? So there are two things that we can definitely talk about, but it really comes down to What causes skin

aging

and so the two

foods

that we really focus on as far as eliminating are going to be foods that create inflammation and foods that create oxidation, basically foods rich in free radicals, so when you talk about inflammation it would be sugar.

It really is the big cause of inflammation in our skin and then when you talk about free radicals and oxidation, those will be overly processed foods. Super processed foods. Ultra-processed foods are actually full of free radicals and chronic free radical oxidation and inflammation. Inflammation are two of the main causes of aging of our skin, oh man, so let's break down this sugar a little bit because obviously when you eat a piece of whole fruit, you're ingesting sugar to some degree. All plant foods can contain exactly some concentration of Sugar, so are we talking about

avoid

ing them or is there a certain type of sugar that we should be aware of?

Really, when you

look

at sugar and aging, they are two processes that you need to consider, so the first one will be glycation. and this is something that you've talked about before on your podcast but that a lot of people don't realize is that glycation, although it can be bad for certain parts of your body, it's really bad for your skin, so when we look at sugar when you eat sugar Sugar can actually bind to the collagen and elastin in your skin. Now our skin is about 70 to 80% collagen and that's what makes our skin nice and tight and firm, when we get

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ger, but as we get older.

In reality, as we age from the age of 20, we begin to lose approximately 1% of collagen thickness each year. Wow, and women when they go through menopause, that goes up to 2% a year and that's why when you see some women. and let's say they are in their 70s and 80s, sometimes their skin is as thin as tissue paper because the collagen has completely thinned. Now when you consume sugar, the sugar can bind to collagen and that collagen in the skin is like me. Describe it like the logs of a log cabin and when you're

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ger those logs are nice and tight and strong, but as you get older those logs start to fall apart, start to fray and basically get damaged, what sugar?

What it does is it takes those logs that are starting to fall apart and it sticks to them, causing them to bend even more or crumble more and prevents them from going back to normal again and those are those collagen, protein and sugar hybrids that They are called Advanced. glycation end products or ages with very appropriate titles, yes, many people you know know about glycation, but they don't necessarily know that this is something that can also age the skin and that there is a very direct correlation between eating sugar and then aging, um and then the second process that we're looking at is chronic inflammation, so chronic sugar spikes can cause chronic insulin spikes, something that you've been great at explaining to people and how you can get this chronic insulin. spikes and then that can cause chronic inflammation with insulin resistance and all that too, so if I had to pick one food group to avoid sugar would probably be at the top of the list, but second would be ultra-processed foods. because then they will contribute to oxidation and free radicals.

Yes, ultra-processed foods are like a big problem nowadays. I think something like 73% of the US food supply is now ultra-processed. Yes, what is an ultra-processed food for someone who has never heard that term before, what are these types of foods? So you and Sea went over it and you know and you explained it very, very well on one of your old podcasts, but essentially it's food that's been so altered that it's not. It's not really like what it was at the beginning, you know, there are certain foods like mine, you know, I grew up in Michigan, but my parents grew up in Korea, so the foods that we eat, you can tell what those foods are like. you know what rice is, you know, they put a little bit of meat in it, some vegetables like these, they are foods that yes, they are processed because they are cooked, but they still look like their original form. um altering processed foods, these are foods that have changed a lot and really that can be even molecularly changed so much that you don't even necessarily know where it came from and now they're adding all these other parts that you already know, with colorings and additives and preservatives, which What we do find is that ultra-processed foods have a high amount of free radicals.

Free radicals are those compounds that create oxidation, which is one of the aging agents in our body, and what many people do not know is that, although They can obtain free radicals through normal metabolism, just by being alive when you add more free radicals to your body, such as by eating overly processed foods, you can overload the body's defenses against them and therefore it is just another cause of our aging. skin, very interesting, yes, I like that you mentioned this idea of ​​balance, that is Eternal. The push and pull that each of our bodies constantly undergoes right between oxidation and its, you know, our programmed processes that fight oxidation, those kinds of antioxidant properties that our bodies know and the chemical compounds that our bodies naturally produce endogenously, yeah, and I mean, we normally produce free radicals, you know, that's a normal byproduct of just being Al.

It's those added free radicals that can really attack your body, like I said with diet, smoking, pollution, there are so many different causes. of these free radicals and this, you know, I used to think against scientists, at one time they thought that was the only reason we aged, it was mainly due to free radicals, but now we know that it is multifactorial, that is just one of those things and I think really the big picture of this is that 20% of our aging is in our genes, but 80% is what you do and it's that whole concept of epigenetics and I think a lot of people don't realize account.

They say, well, you know, I know when I'm 50 I'll look this way when I'm 60 I'll look this way my dad looked that way so I'll look that way or my mom looked that way and actually that's not true, you can control how fast you age, you can control how you look as you get older and you don't have to have plastic surgery or Botox or any of that kind of stuff and listen to a plastic. surgeon stating that is very empowering, yes, I mean, I went through all the traditional training. I did three years of general surgery.

I did my medical school. I obtained a medical degree. I did two years of plastic surgery. I did a fellowship here in in Beverly Hills and um, even through all of that, it took me a lot of practice time to realize that what I was taught was actually wrong, you know? So when we go through surgical training, the idea that we have certain sayings that we believe in. number one to cut is to heal number two you can only heal with cold steel and really number three is this idea that your goal as a surgeon is to get people into the operating room that's crazy that's the goal and when you look at the surgical training the bigger the operation the more prestigious it is and so when you go through training, let's say you go through general surgery training, which is what most of us surgeons are, that's where we start the pinnacle of the success in that training.

It's called a Whipple, the Whipple is a huge cancer operation that can last 10 hours and if you're so lucky and so good that you can rub yourself with a Whipple, you know it's a privilege in plastic surgery, that operation is probably the lift facial that you know people can trust. almost anyone can give them a little lipo, but if you're going to open their face and give them a facelift, you know they're going to do their research, yes, and that's why for many years, Max in my practice I measure success. level of success for the number of facelifts I had in my W schedule and I thought, "Okay, if I have this many facelifts, then I'm going to do pretty well and I got to this point in practice where I had a year of wait".

I had all these people on the list who flew from all over the country to have surgery with me and I had a patient who had a horrible complication and it wasn't her fault, it wasn't my fault, it just happens sometimes bad things happen and that sent me to a Giro queue and finally made me realize that the goal of being a surgeon shouldn't be to get people into the operating room, the goal should be the opposite: how can I keep people out of the operating room and that's what drove me through the path. Towards you know the book and the direction I've gone incredible and now you have a huge social media following on YouTube, you mentioned before that when this collagen, the collagen reduction or the damage that occurs. collagen throughout aging leads to this paper-thin skin.

You've seen skin from all angles because you're cutting it and stretching it. Is there any quality in a person's skin that can tell you whether he has it or not? lived a healthy

life

style ate a healthy diet oh yeah, I mean, I can tell when someone comes into my office within 10 seconds of looking at him if he's a smoker. I can tell you generally what kind of diet they've had and I mean, it's really very obvious what the telltale signs are of someone who's lived an unhealthy

life

style, yeah, you can see that they have very, usually not skin.

It's a pinkish red color, as I look at you right now and you've got a little bit of pink on your skin there's some pinkishness that's a sign of vascularization of a good blood supply now sometimes it's too pinkish red and that's a sign of inflammation um so it really is a kind of pinkish color to the skin when people have led a Um, it's a kind of harsh lifestyle, you can tell because their skin is usually grayish, more grayish and it doesn't have more than Let's say spots, which are different, don't necessarily have some of the gradients that you would see on someone. who has healthy skin, you know someone who has healthy skin, you can see that they may have a little bit of pink on their cheeks and then it becomes a little less pink, whereas someone who has had a difficult lifestyle is all the Same color um and I think part of the lack of vascularity you're not getting as much blood supply because your tissues have literally been damaged wow um other times you can also see it by the wrinkles you know where there are studies that show that In specific studies, there was a study who looked at people who had a high intake of vitamin C and they actually had fewer wrinkles than someone who had a lower intake of vitamin C, so there are some very direct correlations that you can see, that's amazing and vitamin C is directly related to our ability to synthesize collagen exactly and goes back to our high school science classes when they talked about scurvy and those people who went on those ships on long voyages and then ran out of fresh energy. they would produce and get scurvy, they would have lesions inside the mouth and all that vitamin C is absolutely essential in the production of collagen, but in addition to that, it is also important as an antioxidant, as we mentioned before, to combat free radicals and oxidation.

In your book, it actually sounds like, from what I've read, you're a big fan of collagen supplementation, which is kind of controversial. You know, many have the belief that, um, when you consume collagen supplements where they are broken down into their constituent amino acids, there is no real way to guarantee that it will actually encourage collagen formation in your body, but there is actually research that suggest otherwise, yeah, you know, it's funny, there is this. you know, on Tik Tok and I have a lot of followers on Tik Tok. I think it's funny, there's a doctor there who's a cardiologist and he's also kind of a nutritionist and he has a big bushy beard and he's very hands-on. about nutrition and he made this video a couple of years ago saying you know collagen supplements are nonsense and if you really want to have collagen just take some gelatin it's the same thing and actually I thought I hadn't looked at the science and interestingly, literally a month and a half ago or something like that, I watched another video of the same thing where he starts with collagen BS and all that and then he takes his hand and slides the video and says, "I was wrong." Wow, collagen supplements work.

I have investigated and they are real. I was wrong and I thought, "My God, here's this guy who seems to be the final authority. You know,that's how he has that low voice and I." I'm the Final Authority and he admitted that he was wrong to call W. I respect that he admitted that he was wrong, but in general I don't like people on social media who promote this brand of themselves themselves as the end of being all referees of scientific truth exactly yes, yes, so I mean, really when you look at it, what is the argument against collagen supplements not working? which is true and if you ingest it it will break down into peptides and how do you know that will improve the collagen in your skin so the key is a couple of things so the first thing you should do if you are going to take in a supplement? collagen, you want to make sure they're hydrolyzed collagen peptides because you're essentially taking that big collagen protein and breaking it down into little amino acids, individual amino acids or peptides that are combinations of one, two, three amino acids together and that's it on purpose so you can absorb it. so they know they know it's a big protein and they're not just going to give you collagen, they're going to give you the peptide so you can absorb it, yeah, when you actually look at it.

In the studies, it was a meta-analysis done in 2021 that looked at about 1,400 people for 90 days who took a hydrolyzed collagen supplement and found a statistically significant improvement in wrinkles, in skin hydration and elasticity and this is a meta-analysis, so it is a combination. From multiple studies, there have been studies that have even done prospective randomized controlled trials where they gave someone collagen and then two months later they did a skin biopsy and found that the skin has a higher concentration of collagen than the skin is thicker so I don't know what else you need, yeah, I mean, I think you know there's a segment of traditional medicine and hey, I grew up in it, that just offers anti-supplements, it doesn't matter what supplement. they are anti-s supplements and they are looking for reasons to say this doesn't work, you know, in full disclosure, I have my own collagen supplement that we sell through my online store unun Beauty and that is our best selling supplement and the stories I hear from patients or people who have taken it is amazing, you know, people say that, hey, I take it and my nails are stronger, my hair is thicker, my skin is brighter, my joints feel better .

I mean, these stories are endless. I mean, I was visiting my mom in Orange County a few weeks ago and she was making breakfast and she says, Tony, do you mind? My hair is getting thicker. Don't you think it's that collagen you gave me? Mom, she's like, yeah, for the last few months, like it could be amazing, yeah, I mean, I take it pretty much every day. I take it from a brand we work with called bubs. makes a great product and you know, I think part of the problem is that there are people who are not necessarily the best science communicators online who will see something and take a product like collagen, maybe They will pay me to promote it if they are influencers and they will promote it like this.

You know, the ideal protein supplement it should be. You know it should be used as an all-purpose protein, but right and collagen. It is not necessarily an ideal all-purpose protein because it is not complete in the sense that it does not contain tryptophan and has fairly low levels of lucin, which is important for muscle protein synthesis, but it still contains some lucin and is still , I mean, first of all, we can count the protein that we ingest from beans and rice, of course, we can count the protein that we ingest through collagen, but then it has all these other benefits, right?

When you get glycine, you get hydroxyproline. Proline, yeah, and I think that's the way I see it. You have to look at it not as your protein for the day, but as a true supplement, something that can help you, but I agree. Looking at if you're actually tracking your macros then I wouldn't count that as oh it had so much protein like it's not the same and yeah but it's great because like you said there's growing evidence of its ability to support skin health skin appearance texture hair nails all that I mean and there are five types of collagen and you know, we're just talking about type one that promotes hair and skin, I mean there's type two, um, which are the muscles that you got type three, which is joints, so some of the collagen supplements contain all three, in which case that's where people say, "Wow, you know I've had these joint problems and I feel a lot better now, I haven't looked." in the science regarding muscles and joints and all that just because being a plastic surgeon I'm really focused on the skin, but I would also find that very interesting.

Know? Are there people who have chronic joint problems and fibromyalgia? and those things and you put collagen in them, are they going to feel better? I mean, it makes sense that maybe yes, it's definitely worth a try. I mean, I assume it, I assume it because I have chronic lower back problems. I'm interested in things. what I can do, that can improve the appearance of my skin, um, and the texture, and my hair, I mean, it seems like a no-brainer to at least try because also our ancestors used to consume when they ate animal foods, they ate the nose. to the right tail and there are parts of the animal that are rich in collagen that we just don't eat anymore because it's not part of the Western palette, but you can look at other cultures and they consume bone broth, they consume, you know, all kinds of parts of the animal which are rich in collagen, interestingly, if you and I are fans of bone broth, you know, I think it's great and it's a great source of collagen, but interestingly, if you ask, does that improve your skin?

There are no studies. That shows that drinking bone broth improves skin, but there are no studies to show that it doesn't improve skin. I couldn't find any skin studies, yeah, so I'm guessing someone probably has. I haven't done that study yet, I guess if they did we would probably see some pretty good results. Yes, it's important to recognize that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence and that's the problem now: you may have a doctor who says, "Oh, yes. Say yes, I think bone broth may be great for your skin. Well, where is the evidence-based medicine to prove it?

And I'm like, well, there's also no evidence-based medicine to not try it, it doesn't mean it doesn't work, so I mean it just makes sense and if you see that. collagen supplements themselves have a lot of science behind them so I would have to assume that another source of collagen like bone broth would also once those studies have been done you will go back to sugar because you have said that is one of the main things that people should pay attention to and reduce their consumption of what are the main sources of sugar that you think people should be able to identify well.

The number one thing is When you look at people's diet and I'm not teaching you. nothing here, it's a safe bet that 20% of the calories in the standard American diet are sugary drinks, wow, 20%, so if that's what you know, Soda Pop, I knew it. I didn't realize it was 20%, that's big, that's what I saw in a report that showed 20%, so whether it's sodas, energy drinks or fruit juices, it's a lot, so you know, what I try to encourage people is. which we know that sugary drinks are a big cause of excess, you know, basically, wasted calories, essentially, um, we know that with that added sugar, that's obviously very unhealthy for you in many different ways, not just for your skin , um, but I also know that It's very addictive, you know, I grew up in the middle of Michigan.

I had this weird diet dichotomy where my parents were Korean, so we ate a lot of fish, a lot of rice, a lot of kimchi, a lot of fermented food. foods and I like garlic and stuff and then I went out with my friends, we ate McDonald's and Burger King and Wendy's um and it's interesting because you know, when you look at that, it's like society is so focused, our society is so focused. about these kinds of sugary drinks that people drink, that's what I really try to encourage my followers. I have a lot of followers that are from Central America and they follow me because, oh, he's that funny Doctor on Tik Tok that offers plastic surgery and stuff. he could just make it so that instead of drinking three cans of soda a day they go down to two and then maybe eventually one and stuff.

I mean, these are big wins for some people who have never heard of your podcast or my stuff and like them. They don't even realize how bad it is for them, so just reducing their consumption, even just a little bit, maybe these little steps can really add up, yeah, and that's with my book, one of my focuses is try it. to appeal to those people who wouldn't necessarily follow a holistic health professional, um, because maybe that message is one that's a little foreign to them, oh, but they'll follow that funny guy on Tik Tok and now that he's written this book .

I check it and it's like, maybe I shouldn't, maybe I should stop cutting out the amount of soda I drink, maybe I should eat a little more fruits and vegetables and eat rainbows and stuff like that, so yeah, I love it. , man, if you can. Use humor as a Trojan horse, so why not? You know, as long as you're impacting people. I was watching a video. Before you came along, it was like you do a lot of reaction videos that are really funny and there was one where you were reacting to someone. Who wants to look like an elf?

Oh yeah, yeah, what was that? It was one of the strangest videos. Plastic surgery. We have a lot of personalities in plastic surgery and I mean, I turn down one in five people who come to see me. I still have surgery two, three days a week and I think there is still a place for real surgery. You know, there are people who really have problems that can only be treated surgically. So in my case, I see someone, let's say a mother who has had five children and she has skin hanging off her belly and her muscles are completely separated with a hernia in the middle.

So we can really make big differences and I would love to be able to tell them: eat these foods and use this. skin care and that will make it go away, but it just doesn't, so there are places where I think surgery is definitely appropriate, but there is also in my field this, there is a lot, it is to have influence, like there are these doctors who are performing these operations and procedures, especially on influencers and celebrities, because they don't want to say no because they hope to gain influence from it, you know, and there's also a monetary aspect, so it's just a field of plastic augmentation that I'm proud of. to be there, but at the same time I'm not proud of a lot of my colleagues and you know some of the things that are happening there, yeah, I was randomly surprised, these are not the kind of shows. which I usually watch but it was like scrolling, there was Doom scrolling on Netflix of all places and uh there's a show called failed that I'm sure you're very familiar with oh yeah I'm very familiar it's like a long running show Because I never I had heard about it until now and put it on.

I was watching this, the episode I put on. I was watching it for the first 5 minutes. I thought there was a beautiful girl, right? and her. apparently she'd had like 20 or something soapy plastic surgeries, but I'm looking and I'm like, well, you know, they weren't all for no reason because sometimes people have so much and they look good, she looks great, but then, like five minutes after um, you know, the person I like has already been fermented, she reveals that she used to be a guy and yeah, and now she's living like a transom and also happens to be a porn star with no intention of doing so. get out of it, yeah, and uh I was in, she wanted like I was like I was so attracted to that she breast wanted to have a breast reduction she had like these huge breasts and she wanted like there was like she wanted to become like a lip job or something like that to readjust something that was going on down there and um I mean it was fascinating, on the one hand I'm very much for it because people have all kinds of insecurities and to a certain extent I feel insecure.

It's innate to the human condition, you know, so whatever it takes to make you feel better in your skin, of course, as an adult, do it right and we all want to feel better, you know, there's a feeling that you get if you go. You go to a store and you buy a new shirt and you wear that shirt, you go out with your friends and you feel good wearing that shirt because it's new and you feel proud of it and you feel like you look good, there's something like that, that's something innate in us and there's nothing wrong with it, um, and to me, the way I look at the actual practice of South plastic surgery is a couple of things, I mean, the first is that you always do what's best for the patient's period. , you know and I think that's where a lot of plastic surgeons lose track in the end, when you stop thinking about what's best for my patient and you start thinking about what's best for my pocketbook, what do you know, oh yeah Don't the other one do it?

GoodDoctors will do it, so I might as well do that kind of thing and you've gone in the wrong direction. The second thing is that when we do plastic surgery, sometimes people do plastic surgery just to make a change, not necessarily to make someone cite. in quotes better and that's the difference if you have plastic surgery just to make a change and especially if it's a lateral change, then it's really worth putting someone at risk, because when people ask me, Dr. Yun Do you know if having this operation, which is the worst thing that can happen to me, I tell them, you can die, you know it, and I will do everything in my power to avoid it, but if you are going to receive general anesthesia, they will cut you, you could die, uh, so you have to keep that in mind.

And so, again, going back to that idea of ​​only using plastic surgery as a last resort and having the goal of trying to avoid that any way you can. Yes, it makes a lot of sense in his book. Advance this novel concept that I have never heard of Self rejuvenation, what is that? Self rejuvenation is a term that I came up with because one of the things that I've realized, you know, I had this patient who had that complication and literally many of them. It made me spin years ago and for a while I honestly felt so bad about what happened to her, even though there was nothing I could have done to prevent it other than not operate on her.

I wonder if he should give up medicine. I wonder if I chose the wrong major. I wonder if she had the skills to do what I was trained to do. So finally when I got to Rock Bottom I thought how am I going to help people and really, that's what's coming. Until now, I became a doctor to help people and I wonder if I'm helping people if I'm doing these operations and, freaking out, someone has a horrible compensation claim, so I started looking into the writings of medical professionals. Alternative Health because I was never taught nutrition in medical school.

They never even taught me skin care in medical residency and as surgeons P. They didn't teach us that I had to learn all that stuff myself, so I spent years learning natural ways to turn back time and I got there. I came up with this idea of ​​Auto Juvenation and it's really made up of five specific things: what to eat, when to eat, supplements, skin care and non-invasive treatments, and those five things make up the entire foundation of Auto Juvenation and the fact is that Your body has its own regenerative capabilities and can rejuvenate itself if you give it the right tools to do so, okay, and that's why I think a lot of people don't realize they think, oh you know, I don't like it when I look in the mirror.

I'm going to get a laser treatment or I'm going to get a facelift or I'm going to get BOTOX and it's like no, you know, start with these things first and the way I describe it is like you. You're building a house and there are people who say Hello, I want a facelift. You are looking at the Spire at the top of the house. That's a face lift. Okay, you want to start with the foundation. The foundations are food. It's what you eat. You already know. What is most going to determine all of this is how quickly your skin ages, now understanding that you know that if you eat a good meal it won't make your nasal labial folds go away, it won't make your crow's feet go away, but if you combine that with some of these other things, you will be able to see visible improvements in your skin that can help you look five or ten years younger and that without seeing a doctor or receiving any type of treatment.

I love it, I love that you are providing real information. practical tools for people to essentially stay out of their office, yeah, and I think that's what's important and there's a lot of things that people don't realize. I mean, the power of just following the right skincare plan can make huge differences, one of the things I'm a big fan of is intermittent fasting and the autophagy process and how that's really something that traditional doctors don't know anything, so we have in the book this 21 day start that puts patients in a place where it was very simple, where it's a 3: we start quickly where you have a diet that supports collagen, uh weeks , uh, week one, week two and three, add intermittent fasting, uh and then we also added a component called the autophagy diet and I can talk to you about that, very basic supplements and a basic skin care plan and we apply them for three weeks and then we saw after 3 weeks how they looked and it's not like they had a face lift.

You don't know any of them, you look at them and you're like, oh my gosh, they look like they're their daughter or something, but they had people coming up to them and saying, wow, your skin looks fantastic, what are you doing? We had people who are in the middle of this, strangers coming up to them and asking them what are you doing for your skin. You know whatever you're doing. I want to do that. Wow, and this is literally just skin. You know, dietary supplements and skin care. That's all. Are. Great, we can't cover every aspect of your protocol today on the show, but I want to talk about promoting self-rejuvenation foods because you mention that in the book, so what are some of those foods?

So one of the things that I think is important with promoting self-rejuvenation foods is the idea of ​​autophagy and therefore putting people on intermittent fasting to help stimulate autophagy to kick-start that. kind of internal recycling process and one of the things that we did that I thought was really fascinating is I started learning. Okay, there are foods that stimulate autophagy, so when you fast your body promotes autophagy, but can you break that fast and still promote autophagy? So one of the things we tried was we put people on certain foods that promoted autophagy, which are like Self Rejuvenation. promote foods and these are foods that we found was where were the healthy fats like the omega-3 fatty acid Rich fats uh are foods like fish certain cold water fish like tuna trout salmon um and then healthy uh the other healthy fats are the saturated fatty acids, so olives, olive oil, avocados, nuts and seeds and all that, if we put them in those foods and then the other group of foods that actually seem to promote autophagy are foods high in polyphenols and you know what they are, so you're talking like green leafy vegetables, you're talking like bright and dark colors produce um coffee and coffee, yeah, yeah, and Earl gry tea, but coffee yeah, Earl gr tea, interesting, That's one of them, so if so, the idea is that we put people in. they fasted they never fasted from 8:00 p.m. until noon the next day and then for the rest of the day we put them on this autophagy supporting diet, so basically those healthy fats and polyphenol rich foods and then the next day they were back to their normal state, what we call collagen or anti-inflammatory diet that supports collagen or anti-inflammatory, um, so it's something interesting that you know we didn't have.

It's not a big scientific study, but we tested it on people and it really seemed to work very well. I mean, you're you're advocating for people to reduce their consumption of added sugar, you're advocating for a reduction in the consumption of ultra-processed foods and then welcoming polyphenol-rich foods and high-polyphenol foods back to the table. omega-3, so I mean it's not like that with everyone. With all due respect, I mean, it's not rocket science, you know, it doesn't have to be right, yeah, yeah, and I think it's about making these little changes and that's what I tried to make people realize, you know. , which I know there are people who you know we are friends with who have very strict diets and lifestyles and they are sinking carbon and eating only these specific foods and all that stuff that is not accessible to the vast majority of the population, but I which is accessible, I think it is, can you break and fast two days a week?

Know? Can you reduce the amount of added sugars you eat? And what I find interesting is that I receive patients who come to my office. and I say look if you are going to have surgery you have to stop smoking they say I will stop smoking for the surgery um but if I told you Hey, you have to stop smoking because you could have empyema or you could have a heart attack, no, but Sometimes what motivates them is vanity and if vanity motivates you to live a healthier, longer life, then hey, I'm happy to use that, and yes, there are a lot of things that we recommend that you do.

Follow a lot of what you recommend, but I think what a lot of people don't realize is that those same things can have a big impact on your skin, yes, I mean skin health, it's like that, it's really litmus underrated. indicator of a person's health and well-being and what we perceive as attractive is generally a reflection of health, yes, exactly, and that's part of the book. You know I mentioned that yeah, I mean, to be healthy is to be beautiful. You know, some people think that being beautiful is having big breasts or long eyelashes and things like that.

No, the first step to beauty really is health and that is the goal is to try to get everyone going in that direction, but it almost seems like it is a controversial statement to make good today because, like us, we have stopped being able to put definitions empirics about things correctly, yes, yes, I think at the same time I hear exactly what you're saying because obviously there's a movement towards body positivity where everyone has beauty in everyone and I believe in that, you know, I think there are people in our society that I would love and I am trying to reach the most influential people in healthcare.

I can't because they feel like they're beyond that, you know, they feel like, oh gosh, they're, you know, that's it, this isn't it, you know. I see someone who has abs and, you know, surfs on the weekends and You know, they're cold-dipped and doing all this stuff and damn, you know, I live in Boise, Idaho and I work, you know, as a waitress, uh, at a truck stop, you know? And what does that have to do with me and that's what I'm trying to reach out to those people and say, "Hey, look, you know you don't have to be that surfer on the beach to be healthy." Just follow these simple steps and there are other things you can do with mindfulness and meditation. with yoga and things like that they can also have a big impact, just take these little steps there and you will really see big changes in your skin.

Yeah, I think one of the big problems with online influencer culture and the fitness community. It's just that we tend to create these Echo Chambers correctly and after enough time we end up talking to people like Minds who are already obsessed with fitness and eating healthy, it's like those aren't the people you need to worry about, right? I made this video, there was a video that I thought was really sweet, it was a wedding dress, it was from a wedding dress company and it was basically women who were showing off the dress and they were walking down a runway and they were every size, like this which started with extra small, then small and went up to Tri XXL and one of the things I really liked is that this has nothing to do with health, it's okay, it's just the fact that you have someone who is a double x who walks around confidently feeling beautiful like who doesn't deserve to feel that way, so I posted this video and I was like, you know, I really like this message, it's just that there's beauty in everyone and oh.

Oh my god, Max, those hating people were angry and they are what kind of doctor you are. You know that woman is overweight and she should not be beautiful. I actually had a doctor, a plastic surgeon who literally wrote and said that overweight women are disgusting. the male eye and they should be hidden from society they need to lose weight what kind of doctor are you and it's like, I mean I was flabbergasted to the point where I put up a reaction video to his comments that basically shows how ridiculous it is, for Of course I know. that the person who has double XXL, you know, is not on the right path for health, but she doesn't need an Internet doctor to tell her that, but being able to feel beautiful about yourself is something that in itself is. healthy, yeah, you know, and that's something that I think we need to encourage at the same time, like they know that's not a healthy situation and they don't need Dr.

Yun on Tik Tok to tell them that that's not going to change. our life, yes, no, I completely agree, beauty is totally subjective, well, yes, it is subjective, true, there are mathematical models of beauty that were created, but it's something like, come on, yes, but then you, but then you have people, I guess. Social media that has just taken that the pendulum has swung too far in the direction where they will claim that you know it's totally okay to be morbidly obese, well, I think when they say you're healthy that way, that's obviously wrong. right, and I think that's where the difference lies and it's about, I mean, it's really about nuance and framing, because if you watch a video, you find a video online of a morbidly obese person exercising. well, that's healthy, yes, you encourage them, you areencouraging, you know, exercise among that population, so I think that's what we need, there's always going to be room for more nuance, more understanding, um, I think it's gentle support, gentle support and trying to push people.

When it comes to health, that's really the best thing we can do because it doesn't do us any good to hit them over the head with a hammer and say, look, you know what's wrong with you, that's not the right approach and I think that there is where I think traditional medicine hasn't done well, you know, because I think there are people who have OIC and all that is another thing that's happening now, but I really think that in the end it takes these gentle nudges to try to to get it. people are going in the right direction, yes, and to be fair, you can also be thin and be very unhealthy, right, there is too much thin outer fat on the inside where you know you can have a healthy BMI, you can be technically not obese from the BMI point of view and still be morbidly metabolically obese inside, oh exactly, and I see those people coming to my office too. people who may be very thin, but again you know that their health habits are just terrible and those are also people that you don't necessarily want to take to surgery, those are people that you want to help change their lifestyle, it's difficult but you have to do it, yeah, and it's hard to properly communicate these nuances on social media and you're like an expert at that, you've gotten a lot of followers and it's like you probably didn't get them with these like ultra-scientific, ultra-refined posts, but it's like when people look at your content and you know it on a deeper level and you have long conversations like this, because you know that podcasts allow and you know that you've obviously done such great work on the book, it's like that's where I think the real message comes out, but then you know on social media for all of us, you know people have done this to me and they take a thin slice of something.

I said it, you know, in a clip on social media, yeah, and they magnify it and it's like no, we all need to have a little bit more, yeah, compassion, understanding, yeah, I think for me it started when the pandemic hit, It was March 2020. I closed my office like all the other medical offices and I found myself. I promised my employees that I had 10 employees. I said "look, I'm going to pay you for as long as I can." And when I looked at the money that was coming in. there was nothing because we weren't seeing patients except I was getting a check from Google so I thought at that moment what am I like a doctor.

I volunteered to come to my local hospital if they needed me, but God forbid if it becomes necessary. a plastic surgeon in the middle of a pandemic to treat patients related to the pandemic is really bad um so they didn't call me thank god um but I started thinking how am I going to help people in this situation and um so in the end what What I ended up doing was starting to create content, not necessarily to educate, which has always been what I had done before, but if I could entertain someone for 10 or 30 seconds or even a minute and get them out of this horrible, lonely, scary moment that Andel itself is therapeutic, yeah, uh, and I got into it after that and that's when all my content just exploded and all these people are crazy and I was getting these messages from people that meant everything and saying you kept me company during the pandemic. and they thank me and it's like, "Oh my God, you know someone like Seattle, Washington, who I'll never meet." You know, in real life they send this message and it's like wow, so there's a lot of power there. but again for me it has come down to trying to encourage people as there are so many people out there who can be negative towards someone who has health problems and is overweight but there are not enough people trying to encourage them to do so .

Take these little steps to get there and you know it's going in the ideal direction, yeah, and you do great work and you started during the pandemic, that's when you started, that's when things blew up, so I got it, yeah, I used to do a lot of things. . TV and then, um, I was doing Facebook and all that Twitter and stuff, but it wasn't really until the pandemic when, honestly, I started with a mutual friend of ours, JJ Virgin. I was talking to her and she said, Tony, just be yourself, stop. trying to be this kind of surgeon doctor and she's like "you're kind of funny" and I'm like "yeah" just put your stuff out there and that's when it exploded, it's been so much fun, I love it.

Going back to the Young for Life protocol that you talk about in the book, you say that if I had to recommend the Just One supplement, I would start with a multivitamin, why multivitamin, I think because we know that the foods we eat Today the products are not as nutritious like they used to be and this is something that you have covered, know in great detail. There was a study that looked at all or many of the products between the years 1950 and 1999, so 49. years and they found six different nutrients that they produce today, and this was in 99, they were less than 50 years old and those include vitamin C , iron and protein, so for me, I think the multivitamin is something that you know you can't supplement with.

Get off a bad diet, this is something you've taught yourself, but at the same time I think it can only help, and that's something for me when I look at supplements, which is why we recommend taking a daily multivitamin once again. No, you know, uh, no, in exchange for a healthy diet, I recommend an omega-3 fatty acid supplement, I recommend a daily probiotic, I recommend an antioxidant, ideally like a blend of antioxidants and then, ideally, collagen, and that It's really part of the protocols. Simple and straight forward supplement protocol, I believe this has all been proven to work.

You know, there are other things that people can talk about about NAD and things like that, but those are not the basics. I think they're harder for people to understand if you're a biohacker and you want to try it then, of course, but the general public finds it harder to get that kind of stuff, yeah, I mean, when I'm at home and I leave my own devices, I definitely prioritize and optimize nutrient density, etc. You know, I personally don't do it when I'm at home, I eat and follow my routine. I don't necessarily take a multivitamin, but I definitely see its value when I'm traveling.

When I travel, I always carry a bunch of Ag1 packets in my backpack, which is like a great multivitamin, it has all kinds of vitamins, minerals and the vitamins that are in it. They are not synthetic forms, they are natural forms like methyl folate, methyl cobalamin, etc., and when I travel I really feel like I reap the benefits of having that type of nutritional insurance. I think it makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, I'm the complete opposite because I travel, I get lazy and I don't want to pack all the stuff, so I try to pack vitamins and supplements, but sometimes I forget and sometimes I'm like, dude, look in my backpack.

I'm literally carrying my backpack. When I travel it is full of supplements. Oh, is it really okay? Yeah, and I'm not a supplement hype guy. I'm not one of those biohackers who takes 1500 supplements, but I travel with them. I take these protein powder packets that I buy at Whole Foods so I can maintain my protein intake. I take I have my ag1 with me. I recently found a brand of um and I forgot the name of the brand. but they are individual packets of creatine because before you travel, you wouldn't know it. I wouldn't want to carry a jug of creatine with me and I wouldn't want to put the creatine powder in because you're traveling internationally. with a little bit of white powder oh yeah you can't do that yeah you can't do that so I carry it with me now um yeah I literally carry a backpack full of snacks and supplements.

I was doing a segment on the Rachel Ra show. where we were actually testing, we were doing a treatment for hyperhidrosis, excess sweating in the armpits and one way to determine how much you are sweating is to use cornstarch and iodine, so you put cornstarch in your armpit and then you wipe it off. with Betadine or basically iodine and if it turns black that's when you sweat a lot so I had this big box of cornstarch in my bag and I went through security and they took it oh yeah, they said what is this? it's like this huge box of white powder like, well, it's cornstarch, now we like it, now they took it away, yeah, I mean, it also gives me the feeling of comfort even when I'm out of the house to have those things.

I um it makes me feel it makes me feel really good yeah I don't listen to you one more time I should do that and sometimes I do it's just that there's that part of me that travels and you go out to eat and I forget to bring the supplements with me sometimes and I just don't end up taking them and then bringing them is yeah, yeah, but I think you have to know underlined, with a nutrient rich diet, I mean, you really shouldn't like it. There is a minimum of you. I think it's important to take a generally minimalist approach as a default, but then use supplements as supplements, not as substitutes for whole foods, which was a study that looked at 70 different diets and they found that they studied. if any of those diets would provide uh prevent any kind of nutritional deficiency based on the RDA recommended dietary allowance and so on, and I found that all of them fell short, so that's the only thing now, again, I'm sure of the quality of The food you're eating is potentially different than what you get in a regular grocery store, but still that's why I believe in supplements, but I like you too.

I'm not the biohacker that takes 50 in a day and all that kind of stuff, yeah definitely not, what about skincare? This is something you've talked about and my skincare routine is, I mean, when I say minimalist, even that's an exaggeration, so a lot of guys are like that. water and bar soap and that's it. I mean, if I don't, I don't really even use it. I don't feel the need to use soap every day if I rinse my face, but um, but yeah, I mean. I'm ruining it, no, I mean, I think so with the soap part, you know, we've gone overboard over the years, one thing that people don't realize is that our skin has a microbiome that you know by just like the intestine, so you already know.

It used to be in the '90s and '80s where people would wash their face and then use an alcohol-based astringent and you know, you put it on your skin and your skin feels so tight and clean, but you literally just killed . It kills off all your good bacteria, so there's a microbiome on your skin that works similarly to the microbiome in your gut and can really affect the health of your skin, so all that overly aggressive skincare can be very negative. In the end, it's for your skin, so yes, just use water and not much else.

There are reasons why that's not the worst thing, but there are things you can do that can really help prevent the aging process and even

slow

it down. So you know, part of what I recommend is a very simple skincare routine that anyone can do, it literally takes 2 minutes in the morning and 2 minutes at night. Anyone can do it very inexpensively, so in the morning I recommend starting with the cleanser. The cleanser should be appropriate for your skin type, so if you have oily skin, then a foaming cleanser is better if you have dry, sensitive skin than a milkier or more hydrating cleanser.

The second step and we have talked about antioxidants is to apply an antioxidant serum like a vitamin C, vitamin C is the most you can find and most companies have it. If you want to biohack a little, add vitamin E as well because the two vitamin E and vitamin C are synergistic if used together in their antioxidant abilities essentially. um and then I recommend sunscreen, you know, a lot of our friends are not big fans of wearing sunscreen and I see both sides. I think like everything you know in life, there are extremes on both sides and probably the best ones. it's in the middle so it's okay so sunscreen the idea behind that you know dermatologists say you should use a sunscreen of at least SPF 30 if you're sitting in a basement all day put on sunscreen solar anyway, you know, Overkill, yeah, and then holistic practitioners will say Hey. you know, you get up in the morning, you get the sunlight in your eyes and there's something therapeutic about sunbathing, you get vitamin D, um, so the way I look at it is I see both sides and I think one of the things Holistic practitioners don't see patients who come to see me who have skin cancer and have, say, a small spot on their nose and then go see a dermatologist, have Mo surgery and come back to me with the half of your nostril. is gone, you know, or they literally have a huge patch missing from their forehead or they're missing part of their eyelid, um, it's horrible, you don't want to get skin cancer on your face, it doesn't matter how old you are, you don't want to achieve that, but at the same time I realized that the sun is very therapeutic.

You know, I live in Detroit and every February we go to the Caribbean and get some sun and it's absolutely therapeutic. My wife can't live without it. so I think there's a middle ground somewhere. You know, I think sunbathing is therapeutic, obviously it helps with vitamin D, but at the same time you don't want to get too much sun exposure because you don't want to get cancer.fur. on your face, period, um, it can be devastating, you know, Hugh Jackman, he's had multiple skin cancers removed, like if I were him, I think he's the most talented person in Hollywood, and I'm afraid at some point he'll have something as bad. he's really going to disfigure it.

I didn't know that, oh yeah, he's a crazy Aussie, one of my all-time favorites. Jimmy Buffett just died of Merkel cell cancer, you know, and that's a skin cancer, it's an aggressive form, so you know what I recommend. It's really okay to sunscreen when you're going out at least SPF 30. The ideal is to recommend a mineral-based sunscreen like zinc oxide or titanium dioxide uh, but those aren't as good if you're a person of color because they will create kind of a white tone to your skin, so if you are a person of color, if you have darker skin and don't like the way it looks, then use a chemical sunscreen, but make sure it doesn't contain oxybenzone and octinoxate , two very common chemicals in sunscreen, which are potential hormone disruptors, so instead use megor XL or avobenzone, they are safe and found. sure, they don't affect your hormones or anything like that and they won't leave that white Shue on your skin.

Do you know anything about the difference between sunscreens that are available in Europe and the US? Someone recently told me that they have much better sunscreens in Europe, in fact Korea is the best they have, yes, here in the United States there are only a handful of FDA approved ingredients that we can use in sunscreens and unfortunately, those They create these problems, you know, with oxybenzone and octoxide. They also create the kind of problems of thickness and greasy feeling and all that kind of stuff. If you go to these other countries and try some of their sunscreens, it's like if you put moisturizer on your face in the morning, you wouldn't. sorry at lunch time it's just a moisturizer but if you put sunscreen on your face you can feel it during the day i hate it i hate that feeling so i mean there are sunscreens made specifically for the face that don't They're greasy, uh, I just want to try the different formulations, but they're not as good as if you got one in, say, South Korea, that's made with different ingredients, wow, and they're just not available here, they're like the FDA out super super.

slow

, they're very slow and these things get approved and, uh, there was a celebrity that I'm trying to remember who was, there was a blank in the name, there was a celebrity that's actually spearheading the attempt to get more than are.

No I don't know why the celebrity is doing it, but they're trying to do that, I think it's been decades since we've had a new sunscreen ingredient approved by the, it's crazy, you know, it reminds me of um as in uh in Japan has supposedly been using toothpastes with Nano hydroxy appetite for years, which apparently has the same remineralization ability as fluoride, but hydroxyapatite is a component of bones and teeth, naturally it doesn't have the endocrine disrupting properties that it does. It has fluoride. -toxic and yet we are starting to get to this here in the United States and yet it is commonplace there.

I was in London recently and a friend of mine asked me: can you bring me some of the sunscreen you sell? that I have there because they're so much better than the ones we have here and I was like really and uh and apparently it's true that there was like a whole article, there was a great write up like I think it was It was the Atlantic about how sunscreens are so much better in abroad, yes, but the interesting thing in the field of plastic surgery, you know, is that it goes both ways, like there are also products available abroad and I'm glad that they're not available here, you know, because they're dangerous .

So, cosmetic treatments and things like that that people are doing in Europe and other countries that they just don't have here. You know, certain types of breast implants and stuff. I think it goes both ways and I think sunscreen is something that hopefully in the next few years we'll see some new ones. Did you see this article? So I found out I saw it on Twitter randomly two days ago where a woman I went to El, an older woman went to Mexico for a breast lift and she woke up from her surgery and she had implants put in and it's hugely traumatic and she's like, You know, I was traumatized by it, that's how it is.

She chuckled. because this is something I hear almost every day and it's funny if it weren't so sad like it's just, yeah, I see this all the time, you know, it's called cosmetic tourism or surgical tourism where people go to other places. countries to save money to have surgery and they end up, some of them get incredibly horrible results, and the problem is you know I have patients, you know I used to cover. I just stopped covering emergency rooms for 20 years. erum at my local hospital and we would have people who would fly to the Dominican Republic, have these big surgeries, and come back to the United States with the drain still sticking out, so they would need to have these drains removed.

And so instead of finding a doctor to do it because they don't have a doctor here, they just go to the emergency room and now you're getting the cost of an emergency room visit, you're getting the cost of, you know? ? that they have to evaluate, I mean, it's thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to basically treat someone who is a post-op patient who went overseas to save money to have a procedure and it's maddening because you don't know the quality of some of these doctors. . and it's scary for these patients, yes, super. I'm just Googling this article I found on CU.

I thought it was like terrifying this poor woman. Something happened in I don't know where I saw it, but yes. It was like surgical tourism where we see this woman all the time and there are stories of people who go to women who come in to get, say, a butt augmentation and they put breast implants in their butts, not in their actual buttocks. implants in no way yeah yeah there are stories of people who have had surgeries where they go in for one operation and then they wake up and they've had something else done to them um it's really scary now that there's a lot of Bosch work on March.

Also in the United States, the difference that I tell patients is that if you are abroad and something bad happens, if you don't speak the language of that country and you end up in the hospital, how scary will that be for Yes, and at the same time While your US health insurance will not necessarily cover complications from your cosmetic surgery in a different country, so now you will have to pay the cost of that, obviously they will go. bill you, so yeah, I mean, it's scary, I mean, you don't really want, you know, the two things that you never want to skimp on and go for cheap is sushi and plastic surgery, those are two things, yeah, I like that We should cover the skin care routine at night before we get lost because we talk about the morning, so the morning is a cleansing antioxidant and then the sunscreen at night is very important to clean, It's okay, if you only wash your face once a day, max, and that's okay, do it at night.

If you need to get rid of days of dirt, buildup and pollution, applying an anti-aging cream is ideal. The one I usually recommend is a retinol which is a derivative of vitamin A. Very proven, very safe, what does that do to retinol basically? Retinol has not been tested as much as its prescription form, which is retinal A. Retinol A has been used in dermatology for decades. It can thicken the skin, the dermis of the skin, so we talked about how collagen thins and can actually thicken collagen. Reversing fine lines, can reverse age spots, and can actually reverse early skin cancers.

For people who have, let's say, a history of skin cancer, I recommend that you go to your dermatologist and ask for a retinal prescription. I don't know what it reverses because it just won't show up, but it can help, um, and that's prescription, but if you don't need it, if you don't have really thick skin, you don't have aging skin. which then a retinol is over the counter, okay and that's really all you need to do, cleanse your skin at night, apply a retinol if you want, put a moisturizer on top, okay, it's not necessary, but you can do it if you want and technically that's it so you don't really have to do tons of stuff and then if you can once or twice a week maybe exfoliate your skin using a scrub from us or using an alyr as a gentle exfoliation and that's really how you have to do it and we actually did a study where we put people on a very simple skin care regimen, people who hadn't really been doing much with their skin and we put it on them in two minutes a day and then we looked at phes of them two months later and then we did an online survey to see how old these people were, were they older or younger and ultimately we looked about 5 years younger just by constantly doing that skincare routine that It's amazing, I love it, yes, validation for my nighttime shower habit.

I don't shower in the morning. I like to clean myself before going to sleep so I can go to bed clean. Yes Yes. My wife won't do it if we go out. I like walking and stuff during the day she would get really mad if I went to bed without a shower oh yeah it's gross well it used to be when I grew up and I went to bars like everyone smokes in bars and then you go out to the bar and you came home fuming and my wife was like, yeah, you have to take a shower, yeah, yeah, and then you take a shower and you can literally, when the water hits your hair, you can smell the smoke coming out of your vomit, so different from Well, today I just want to talk about this again about sun exposure because I mean, would you say it's important to know your own personal risk profile and do you know how to have a responsible relationship with your child?

Yes, yes, I mean. I think that's important because in the end we know that the sun can be our best friend and our biggest enemy, okay? So when you wake up in the morning, you look at the sun in your eyes and make sure your circadian rhythms are correct. you know, in the right order, essentially, um also, again, there's that therapeutic aspect, you know, we spend days, even weeks, sometimes without sun in Detroit, I mean, sometimes it's very difficult, um, but at the same time you have to realize that. The sun damages your skin, even a little bit of sunlight damages your skin and I think like everything in life, there is a risk-benefit ratio that you are dealing with here, so the sun will damage your skin with UV rays , you know, the ones I talked about. the different causes of skin aging and inflammation and oxidation are two of them, well the sun will damage your skin in both ways, you know that, so you can get real free radical production by damaging the UV rays will create free radicals and can develop inflammation as well, and can actually damage the DNA of the skin, which damaging the DNA is what ultimately leads to skin cancer.

Now, interestingly, you might find that, hey, I know someone who drives a truck and the left side of his face has more spots and his left hand has more spots than the right side of his face, so our windshields on they will actually block. There are three types of UV rays: UVA B and C. UVC rays are UV rays that do not actually penetrate ozone. layer, so they are not really a problem. UVB rays are rays that will burn your skin and UVA rays will not burn your skin, but they penetrate deeper into your skin to create DNA changes.

Okay, so your car windows will actually block UVB rays. So you can do it, even if you know you have lighter skin color, you can drive all day without sunscreen and you're not going to get sunburned, but you can still get the UVA rays that do penetrate those windshields and your windows. and that will cause premature aging which can lead to possible skin cancers in the future. Wow, actually, this is something. It is a nuisance for me to be in the sun through glass. Yeah, like I was ever in a I was at an event recently in London where I went like during lunch, everyone at this conference I was at took place in a tent where the sun was allowed in, but I knew that the glass was blocking it so it was like a bombardment of UVA rays and made me feel very uncomfortable.

Well, that too, if you're talking about darker-skinned people, they're like, "Oh, I don't need sunscreen because I don't burn well." because the melanin in your skin will absorb those UV rays and protect your skin from burning, but those UVA rays are still penetrating your skin, so people who have darker skin can still get skin cancer, they can still experience aging premature and all that. um, once again, skin cancer is the big concern, but I also like having the skin of a newborn. Aspire to have the skin of a newborn on your face throughout your life. I mean, that's not really physiological.

I mean, there's probably a lot. of cost associated with striving to achieve that as a goal, if you do not allow the sun to enter your skin,you know we generate vitamin D when UVB rays hit our skin, we generate nitric oxide when UVA rays hit our skin, so there is some good to come, like major benefits, from allowing the sun to reach the surface of our skin ? No? Yes, and I think that's where once again I differ a little bit from my colleagues in Dermatology, you know, I mean. they are completely covered from head to toe and then they take their vitamin D supplements, maybe if they believe in that, it's kind of an analogy I would make, it's like these vegan fanatics that you find online sometimes promote this. idea that we should all be walking around with apob LDL levels of a newborn and I would like to get those levels that are not physiological for an adult, right, you have to like an extreme lifestyle, change an extreme lifestyle, not any of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet that contain any saturated fat, you know what I'm saying, so it's like there's a cost benefit exactly where I think there's more cost than benefit in that situation, no, and I think That's all.

The thing about the sun is that's what you want to weigh, you know, like I said for someone like me, it's February, we're going to the Caribbean. I'm very happy to be able to do it, yes, yes, it's like I'm not going to do it. having sunscreen all the time I'm not going to be completely covered, but at the same time I also understand that I'm not going to burn, like there's no way I can burn and have all that. type of damage too, do we know that people with darker complexions, people of color, have a lower risk of melanoma or skin cancer, do we know that in general, yes, because melanin will protect your skin, you know, there are a level of There is protection, but we know that you can still get burned.

I mean, I still get burned from time to time. I'm using sunscreen though. Now it's crazy. I get sunburn on the top of my damn head because my hair is getting a little thinner. for the best of us, oh my gosh, but yeah, there's definitely some protection there, but again, people who have darker skin have to be real, you know, they have to realize that that's not protection complete, so super, super important, I got it, it's like the person who has been skinny all their life eating junk food thinking that at some point they're not going to reach it, yeah, I mean, you can look healthy there, but then you get a calcium score and then you know your calcium score is through the roof. and you say, well, geez, I look like I can be healthy because I'm not overweight, but you're not on the inside, yeah, you can't go by looks alone, exactly, yeah, super interesting man, well, I feel like we.

I've only scratched the surface, but I'm excited for people to see your book. I know you've worked a lot on it. It's a thick book, too thick with two Cs. It has a lot of good content. Thank you, yeah, I mean, really what I wanted to do is create a book that anyone could read and follow specific step-by-step instructions to be able to turn back the clock naturally, so that you read it, you follow these very simple steps, you know? It's not crazy that you have to do these crazy things or spend all this money, but you take these little steps and give yourself a month, you know, even three weeks at some point is enough to make a start like that, where you can see.

Big changes in your skin and hopefully looking in the mirror and saying wow, I really love what I'm seeing because I mean, don't we all want to do that thing where we look in the mirror instead of being horrified like I sometimes wake up? Like, oh, I'm horrified, but I'm actually happy, like, wow, this is cool and then getting that praise from people makes everyone yeah, and I think it's also a really novel entry point for people because , as you say in the book. you like to use the skin as an entry point for lifestyle changes, people aren't always concerned about this, like the abstract long term, which shouldn't be abstract at all, but this idea of ​​long term health worries them. vanity matters, so if that's the entry point you should use if that's the Trojan horse and of course it's also interesting because if you ask as a holistic alternative health practitioner, you say, hey, what's the best way for me to get beautiful and healthy skin?

They are going to fix it. your gut fixes your gut you ask a dermatologist they will tell you to put on sunscreen and use retinol you ask a plastic surgeon they will tell you to get laser treatments and get a facelift and the reality is that if you combine the best of both worlds you fix your instincts you know you use the right skincare products you take supplements you know you try a little bit of intermittent fasting and then all that really, in the end the best way is to combine the traditional and the alternative in a true integrative approach and that's what I wanted to contribute.

Here I don't know any other book that has done that for skin aging and in that way before, so I love it friend, thanks for writing it. Hey, if you like that video, you should watch this one here and I. I will see you there