Nick Ferrari rows with campaigner over deportation flight

Do you have an update on how many might have left this country? Good morning good morning Nick we don't have an update on the numbers we believe a plane has left and I don't think the Home Office have confirmed the number of people on that plane we know a really good number of people who would have been on the plane are not on it because this Court of Appeal ordered that we successfully searched last night and the government's appeal was rejected shortly after midnight, why is it important? some of these people are allowed to stay Bella access to justice is a fundamental principle of common law there is nothing more British than access to justice as you were, can you talk about people leaving at the very least?

We owe justice to everyone in this country. trial and a fair hearing and that is what we know was not happening for those detained at Heathrow sensors, there has been no mobile phone signal there since mid-January, meaning people simply cannot access lawyers and They are not represented and cannot present their case. And this obviously includes people who have been in the UK for a long time. I have clients who have been here since they were two or three years old and have not been able to provide proof that they have family here. They have very strong ties here. and that they have no one in Jamaica or would be at risk in Jamaica, where the authorities were aware that they could not obtain a mobile signal.

We presented our lawsuit a little over a week ago and in the response that the Secretary of the Interior gave us, she admits that they were told that the cell phone signal had been cut off since January 13, it does not appear that any credible measures have been taken to ensuring people had mobile phone signal there are almost 700 people detained in these centers Nick and it was only when we reported that there was a last minute scramble to get SIM cards, she couldn't get enough SIM cards, the SIM card she sent was delivered to defective people and he had no credit and the SIM card still had no work and he didn't even give out SIM cards to everyone who was going to be on this

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She managed to offer them to about half of the people. What is the position of you and your colleagues once these people excuse me? get the necessary telephone communication and they have their appeals, that is their position that then if they are found they should be deported, that should go ahead, the law of the land as it is is the law of the land and I accept that, that's fine , I think access to justice is fundamental, that's the first one and if you have it, if you don't have it, then you won't get anywhere. The second point that I think people like David Lammy have made very well is that there is a broader problem here because these are essentially the children, the grandchildren, the nieces and nephews of the window company, I think, but they still go ahead and have broken the law.

Everyone who is subject to this power is someone who has been condemned. Well, no, I think that's it. I don't think so, isn't it a grotesque disservice to the thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of descendants of the Windrush generation who live peaceful lives, law-abiding lives, pay their taxes, to be lumped in with these people and these are those who break the law? and the others here under the law, you know as well as I do that life is not necessarily as simple as some people would like it to be listen listen to the Windrush community listen to the Caribbean community in this country they are the people they are the people who you don't give them a get out of jail free card just because I'm the grandson of a Windrush person no, what I would tell you, the Windrush generation are in favor of changing the law because these are their relatives and they believe in Principles like rehabilitation and the second chances we should believe in as a country we have always believed and we have a very proud tradition of that, Nick, and let me tell you one more thing, I have clients who are victims of crime.

It is not always clear. I have clients who are victims of sexual abuse and they have been groomed for county line operations, so yes, they have committed a crime, but they were under duress and they were prisons full of innocents. The people who sell it know it as well as I do. Everyone in jail is innocent. Come on, I'm not saying that Nick, well, the prison is full of innocent people. You will know it. Listen, I'm saying he's not black and white. This person is very good and that person is a believer and one more point is that I believe that they are actually the children of these people.

I have a client with six children, all under the age of ten, he is the primary caregiver for the same mother. the same mother and he lives with the mother he is now who shouldn't become a criminal Bella, he committed a drug crime, he was a complete anomaly, he has always worked incredibly well, here we go people, here we go again, but he is rehabilitated , so give it a second. show