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The Beginners Guide to PowderCoating Wheels from a REAL shop

Mar 30, 2024
abroad today we are heading to the powder coating

shop

, we are going to go over the process of powder coating

wheels

, very excited to show you how that all goes and at the end we will talk business, so wait like a Child, I always dreamed of growing up , move to a huge city and work in a high-profile financial job, but like all good plans, things changed quickly within a few decades, where my husband and I ran a steel fabrication business together where I spent the last decade. learn the tricks of the trade and at the same time provide some interesting insights into the business.
the beginners guide to powdercoating wheels from a real shop
It

real

ly is the best of both worlds, so come with me as I get down and dirty and get into the nitty-gritty of how it works, showing you the tricks of the trade, as well as bringing in some of my business experience to take it to the next level, It's a little tutorial and small business 101, all wrapped up in one nice little package. Hello, good morning, good morning, how are you? Are you ready to start? Yes, then tell me what we are going to do today. We have a set of

wheels

brought in by the customer who wants to powder coat them black.
the beginners guide to powdercoating wheels from a real shop

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the beginners guide to powdercoating wheels from a real shop...

I get a lot of road rash, sidewalk rash. Let's clean them. What is your brush? When? You get too close to the sidewalk and you rub against it, it's the outside of the tire that scrapes everything, it makes it very difficult. What happens first to get these started in the process? So first we will place them. a stripper called B17 acid to remove anything, any pain, epoxy powder coating, anything from the wheels, we'll put them in the acid, probably about an hour, hour and a half to get everything off, then we'll pressure wash them and put them in the oven for about 20 minutes, let them dry and then we'll put them in the glass booth and let them spray.
the beginners guide to powdercoating wheels from a real shop
After I finish polishing, we'll go back and sand the rough edges where the sidewalk is. The rash is yes and we try to soften it as best we can and then we will cover it and then we will cover it once we have softened them, we clean them and then we hang them, we grind them on the cart and then we will put the first layer, put them in the oven . I like to apply the second coat hot, it just makes the powder adhere much better and flow much better. Excellent, so let's get started, then okay.
the beginners guide to powdercoating wheels from a real shop
Foreign protective glasses. Gloves. Maybe an apron. Yes it's pretty. bad, as you can see, I'm ready to edit it, okay, puller, I'm trying, I'm trying to get it right right now, but that stinks

real

ly bad and it's burning, burning everything, my nose, which is very rough, you're Ready, it's burning. So what does this mean? Take this tank here, it's something neutralizing. Neutralize. It should go away, sir. Yes, you did go in there, but it won't take it away from you. Next time we will put them in the oven, they will dry out and expel the gas until two birds in one step explain the outgassing as if aluminum is very porous.
Any gas that is trapped inside the heat will be expelled and burn all the oils, whatever road grime may be on the wheels. What happens if you don't? If you don't run out of gas it will have a very rough finish and then in some places it will bubble and not look very good at all. Okay, I'll help you. So how long do you think is good enough? amount of time to degas them, um, I usually leave the guys for about an hour and a half at 465 degrees. I always have gas at a higher temperature than what you're going to cure, oh that's a good idea, which is 400.
Back me up. up, tell me what's going on, they just been, I've been drying, right, they've been in the oven, guys just drying, let's take them out, check them for popping and they're plastic, okay, walk me through this. If we've dipped all of these into acid and they're reduced to Bare Metal now, why do they have to be destroyed in the first place, so let's blow them up? You want to blow them up so you have something for the dust. The cling coating will not stick to a smooth surface, so we spray the medium extra fine and give it a bit of a rough profile, but it's not real sand, yes, I think it's actually a cold flag, yes, they have too sand and glass beads, right?
We used to fly with real sand and then the environmental agency put us down so now we use both legs so the hoodie on that airflow goes into the hood and keeps the dust out of there so obviously everyone is completely clean and beautiful. rinse them and they have a very nice dog tooth, what a dog tooth if you were to look at this under a microscope you would see little peaks and valleys and that is what allows the powder to adhere very well once we put it on so this is the way where someone says white metal, this is what you're talking about, okay, so sandpaper is next.
No, we'll put them on the table and just make sure you don't miss any stitches on the black boots. blow them out and then we'll start masking them off so now that they're coming off we'll just go over them and make sure nothing's been missed against the black food like row. Dirt or paint that is stuck there, we still found some. We'll scrape it like here, so that's what we're looking for. It's like going to the dentist, except I'm sure they are much cleaner. I hope that goes over the edge. base of the sandpaper, you rub your finger and it will feel hard.
The day we will tear it down. We don't want to dig into the metal, although we just want to smooth it out. This is road rash that cuts into your grooves. We won't get rid of it. You'll still see it after we cover it, but we can smooth it out. It will be less noticeable. I think they are fine. Yes, they feel good. Now we will mask it. let's mask, yes, this is where the wheel goes to the hook of a vehicle. It has to be a smooth surface, otherwise it will vibrate as you go down the road.
It's just a machine surface, so it has to hit. perfectly, so we don't cover that area over there, we're just going to remove this here and we're going to cut it, we're going to cut the inside of this, this is the only surface we're not going to go on, okay, everything else. It will start so we are not worried about rust or rest on that, probably once you put your Hub in because it will never be an exposed surface and I'm sure there will be a lot of grease involved, there will absolutely be a lot of dirt and stuff from the dust from the brakes and all that, yeah, it's not going to rust of course because they're aluminum so you'll never know, but I guess that's why I think these get because they're aluminum.
Get out of here, okay, there's a little bit of space right there, could you cover that? Yeah I would cover it okay so let's go ahead and hang these on the cart so you just put them there flush and it just hangs like this in the car oh yeah we plug it in and put it in and well cuz we have too our own manufacturing work

shop

so all of our parts are custom made exactly for what we need so this has been very helpful and these um pins we used to make our own pins these are changing color up to 4000 degrees they are called um I think they're called heat eaters uh math grass I mean these parts are weighted depending on what we have with some pretty heavy stuff and the wheels that we were making were collapsing under their own weight.
These are built for high pressure and heat, so they are very nice to have. I don't know if you noticed that the hooks have been cleaned like Well, so that you have good contact, you can follow the graphics from the part to the point that is being coated, because without a good load or a good round you will not get a good stick and then the dust doesn't look good, so I'm just going to make sure that they're actually grounded and that they're touching bare metal. We look at the ground or the positive so that it touches the negative. super cool ok this is called an ohm meter and it just lets you know you have a good ground thanks is there a certain number you are looking for?
The shorter the battery life, look, now I've had a nine it was like 23 or 32. So your problem areas are what they call Faraday areas, which are like in the corners. Wells delves deeply into any of those things. Usually battery life is destroyed on each side rather than going into the hole I think. that's why I make hot rims if you make it hot as soon as the dust hits it slows down and it just gets stuck to do it so you're going to give me a final hit okay we'll be fine first we'll blow up the stand take everything out that white powder, if this just came from white, let's change it to black, we want to get some contamination like the whites can settle on the bottom, yeah, okay, now that it just got covered in white, we need to clean everything the system, all the lines, okay, gun and everything we don't want, nothing white there, you have the only thing you want to look for every time you take the gun apart and clean it, a small electrode on the end that is what gives the The powder has a positive charge after passing through the gun, so they are different.
Check out this tip. Here's the tip of the fan and this is for Faraday areas like where he was talking on the wheels, like inside the recessed part for the nuts, yeah, it shoots more directly. and that's what the fan is like a phone, so we run a game with people like two in our store, that is this type of weapon, they are Eva has a newer and bigger version of Battier Assier, this is the best line and we have been very happy with this we have been coding for the last six years we have two of these made I love them this is called a box gun B literally because you put the box on the vibrator in a minute this will turn on this The bed shapes and vibrates and creates a bit of a fluidized bed of the gunpowder so that the gun itself can pick up the gunpowder and fire it through the hose, which is why the gun cases work great for back system socks like ours. so we'll give these wheels a blah, blah more with the air and then we'll put them on them, yeah, foreign, foreign, because that's very difficult, and open them up and put a clamp on them and then they would fall off, we used to plan well.
There simply wasn't enough room on the chart here. We could call and we'd know and then you'd be surprised and they'd take you off, so it's terrible, so these little pigtails face the solution where we just had these guys. so now it's protected it's not covered and you always have a clean connection point with that quick connection and it helps the station so it was a really smart move after the test here and the test here okay now I'm grounded . over here so this is uh with that six feet I think it's six feet yeah so we have a six foot round of ground so it goes through the concrete all the way to the ground and that's what gives us a Really good terrain for these. parts, okay, you want to go first, no, I want to walk, you go with me, so we'll start with the Faraday area like we talked about before, so angle your gun more when you're in the corners. when you have the fan on, yeah, that's more of an angle, so it'll be there a little bit better.
Do you ever pull the trigger or do you just not hold the trigger down that way the dust can keep coming out? uniform point don't try to grab it we'll take it off okay let's draw your gun back how far are you shooting? I usually go back about eight inches, so disconnect, unhook it, we'll pull it out. put it in the oven, we'll put another one in for about 10 to 15 minutes just to let it gel a little bit and then we'll take it out again, shoot them hot and it'll cover it real quick. Okay, go ahead and take it out of the oven.
It only took 20 minutes at 4 25. Just to blow it we wanted to heat it up here, but what's going to be tricky is this meal and the Cody process is we're dealing with hot ribs on the hot side, yeah, so we're going to be very careful. with where our bodies are, we'll try not to hit anything, not melt any hoses, got it, it should be fun, weird, so you can't even really tell where you've been. I like to just do all the faces because that's what you're going to see on the outside, but you're not covering a technically smooth surface at this point, the dust is still there. pretty rough, yeah, and it won't be super smooth until it's fully cured, so now I can tell the rims are cooling because the powders are slow and pretty fast, so that's like your final run, I mean, yeah That It was the moment you were waiting for, it's more than the cooling, but you know, yeah, because what I'm seeing is a sheen like a powder, like it's not shiny, so it doesn't flow, it doesn't go out, so now you already know.
I have full coverage and then once I come back, now that they've cooled down a little bit with a little bit of alcohol, that's amazing. I think we have it, so now this is going to be the funnel here, so the healing time with this powder. It's 10 minutes at 400 degrees, which means the wheel actually has to be at 400 degrees for 10 minutes to ensure the dust comes out, soThey will come in for about 45 minutes. We have a small graphic that is a bit broken. but I'm checking things from time to time with the gun so you just have to give it a good feel for how thick your substrate is to know how long it needs to be in the oven because it doesn't. 10 minutes in is 10 minutes wine stickers one more time at 400 degrees okay so we would just put four rims in the oven if I wasn't here to slow you down.
How much total time would it take from bath to finish? It would probably take three and a half hours to finish, I got an hour and a half right, so if so, since acid is another thing that works, but not a man and he's just doing his So you can say those tires probably took you all for a set of four, it probably took you like two hours without getting your hands on your actual physical work because once it's in the oven you're gone. You can also move on to something else, yeah, okay, so we're at 500 for that cart, so it's 250 an hour, let's say you work a nine-hour day, it's 10:50 p.m., you work five days a week . 52 weeks a year is 585,000 you could make just from Just Friends, that's a lot of money, I'm practically one, you don't have to have a lot of money, it's not even difficult at all, right? and our shop is kind of set up to be able to do a lot of bigger things, but you could do something like that in a much smaller space, you wouldn't have to have cars that big, yeah, none of that, yeah, sure, you could make wheels in a much smaller setup, more garage type, you could definitely do that, it's a lot of money, it's great, okay, we just ran a lot of numbers with Corey and I want to back up and talk about the money it would take to get started in the powder coating industry, so if you want to do the whole process we just did, you need about 125,000 covering dip tank, chemical, blast booth, blast vessel, paint booth, cost of goods sold to start and a box speed gun, so at $135 an hour and $125,000 start-up, you're looking at three to four months of work hours, as long as you're willing to work about 10 hours a day, seven days a week to recover all your entry costs, which is not a bad margin, the only thing you have to consider is that probably when you are starting out you will not have 10 hours of work a day unless you invest a lot in marketing like Facebook. ads Instagram Ads Spotify Ads the world really is your oyster when it comes to targeting your market, just remember that nowadays people don't come to you, you find them and bring them to you, so investing in advertising It's very important when you're an emerging entrepreneur hey, yeah, you, I need you to like and subscribe to this page so the YouTube algorithm can get this to the people who need to see it.
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