Never Before Seen Abortion Debate With Charlie Kirk

um, I'm wondering what your stance is on

abortion

and how you respond to the violinist Thompson case, part two. Sorry, the case of violinist Thompson, oh yes, I've heard it, I mean, happy to see it again, but yes, under the hypothesis that that will

never

happen, I'm happy that that's what thought experiments are for, I mean, but I don't need a thought experiment when it comes to

abortion

, but you want to tell people what the violinist abstraction is happy with. Tomorrow morning, as will likely happen, you will wake up in your hotel room. I will be right next to you in bed and you will be connected to me.

My blood is going to enter. your kidneys and then back to my body and that's going to be necessary for me to survive if you disconnect me. I die for how long for nine months, okay, n years, so playing it again, playing it again, how did it happen? Oh, that. it was against her will, oh really, so rape, sure, okay, that's only less than 1% of all abortions, so the thought experiment doesn't apply to the other 99% of abortions in those that are consensual sex, do you agree? Okay, so the thought experiment is On The. Fringe Of The Fringe of any applicability but under that thought experiment and that abstraction yes to be consistent with Saving a Life I personally would give part of my kidney to save someone's life for nine months if you couldn't get out of bed for nine months well Pregnant PE Pregnant women are not bedridden, some are very rarely, so I don't know what you're talking about.

I mean for you, if you go into preterm labor around 25 or 26 weeks, maybe with a similar treatment with magnesium. to bed rest for 3 to four weeks, are you familiar with that? It's not a perfect analogy, but it's not a good analogy at all, but let me ask you a question, when does life begin? Why is it impossible to define it? Define I think life is very abstract Are you alive? I'd like to think okay, are the people around you alive as far as I know? Okay, what gives you that belief? Intuition, intuition, not the fact that they are breathing or we could take their pulse or their heart is working they have brain waves Consciousness we can go all the way to idealism like what if you can't know anything for sure okay, can I?

I'm asking you this, you know you're thinking too much let me be let me be honest maybe I am maybe I am I think so do you think that if someone didn't hook you up with someone in bed they said they were going to commit to N9 months do you think that he had the ability to deal with people? do that all the time it's called being a kidney donor it's so different millions of people give away kidneys livers all the time to people who need it strangers in fact do you think they are morally obligated to do it?

If so, let me. let me give you another example if you are stranded on an island and one of your organs that you personally don't need to survive could help that other person on the island you are with two people on an island morally obligated to give one of those organs to that person so that can survive, otherwise it would be at least manslaughter, at worst murder, yeah okay, I guess it's just a difference of opinion at that point. I think you would be a very, very good person. doing so maybe even okay, so AG there is a morality, so now we have built a good by sacrificing something that you may not need but may be inconvenient to help someone else, therefore it is bad if it is good to sacrifice part of what you don't need to help someone else is therefore bad not to do that.

I think you have the right to your own things, as you said with socialism, you have the right to your own things and if you give it to help someone. You are a very kind person for doing so, but I don't think you are morally right. You said good before. Good and good are two different words, but okay, but if you let me ask you. another question, it's just another hypothetical situation, you're in a deserted town, someone is starving, they haven't eaten for 30 days, you happen to have two Big Macs, you really love them both and you know the Big Mac will save their lives if You don't give them that Big Mac and they starve, what kind of person are you a shitty person?

So how is that different from someone saying hey, a woman saying I'm pregnant? It's not what she wanted. I might have to go through nine months that may not be the easiest nine months of my life, but another human being can enjoy the beauty of life. I think you can be without doing anything morally wrong. That makes sense? And at this point I think it's okay, yeah, I mean, being a jerk and being evil are two different things. I agree, but aborting a baby is not being a jerk to that fetus. So what does fetus mean in Latin?

I don't speak Latin, yes, little human, oh, then, the little one. little human is just that, what does it mean in english? What does fetus mean? What does it mean in English? Yes, little human, unborn baby. So the reason people use fetus is because it makes them feel good. That's okay, because they don't want to use the fetus. word baby because they want to try to hide the horror of abortion, so they say oh it's a fetus like it's like a rhino or it's like a giraffe, no it's the same species as a human, it's just not as big as you o As advanced as you are, it feels better to be able to end that being, but I can see that you are looking for this in a good way.

If I asked you a question, should we try to limit the suffering in this on Earth, obviously? Well, if I tell you that most abortions that occur, the baby is in pain, should we probably stop doing it? Well it's not that simple, obviously you're making it simple because obviously giving birth also causes a lot of pain and if you try. a no, I'm making the complex simple because it's really not that complex. This is what college does: it makes very simple moral questions so complex that you have to keep asking for money, you don't have to keep getting these degrees to overthink things. good and bad that someone on the side of the street can easily say that murder is wrong, it doesn't take much and deep thinking.

I wasn't making it too complicated. I was bringing up the reality of what someone who gives birth goes through. pain, you gave a tangential speech about college, which we're not talking about at all, they do go through pain, but you know thanks to modern medicine it's not as much pain as it used to be, so you can get an epidural. out of every three births in this country are done by cesarean section, so, very good, thank you. Any other questions or do you want to fry, uh no, I'm fine, thanks.