'Breaking Bad' Full Cast Reunion ft. Bryan Cranston, Bob Odenkirk and Aaron Paul

At some point I thought: Should I do it? I need to audition again because he's a completely separate character, uh, not separate, but you know, it was a totally different type of character and it was fun to do, that kind of arc I want. cook, I love this kid so much, but when I first read this script I had no idea where it was going, I mean, he was supposed to die at the end of the first season, well, you have a brain the size of Wisconsin, we don't. I'm going to hold that against you in 2007.

Breaking Bad was greenlit and creator Vince Gilligan began assembling a group of actors that would eventually become a household name. I don't know what you think you're doing here, I mean, if you're planning on doing it. Giving me some sassy wine that they're about to get it right with Walt's former student turned business partner, Jesse Pinkman, the 29-year-old actor who had gotten some rope. from small roles on big shows like Beverly Hills 90210 er and File you're the man believes jesse pinkman

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was priced right as himself and his enthusiasm, choice of words and gestures are almost exactly like jesse pinkman's, congratulations when we first met jesse pinkman aka captain cook , aka chili pea, is escaping this bust that hank asked walt to move on for us as an audience, we think this is just some poor idiot who got caught up in this terrible thing that happened, but for walt, it's pinkman , his former student and someone he knew from teaching chemistry.

Honestly, I never expected you to be much, but meth, I didn't imagine there would be a lot of money in it, huh, and that gives Walt the idea to team up with Jesse. He comes to him with the idea that he wants to get into the drug industry and that's how their association begins. uh you wanna cook crystal matt you uh and me that's true jesse pinkman wasn't meant to be a long term survivor of a character I'm

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bad what the hell man when I was plotting the first episode for my account? right before I had a writing team it just seemed to me that Walter White, who is a very square and upright guy, needed entry, needed a guide to the underworld.

You may know a lot about chemistry, but you don't know anything about selling drugs and once in the underworld, that guide has served his purpose, you know we could, we could do without him, oh God, I don't want to die, so you know what he will enter his former master and then he will be horribly killed. at the end of the first season he's serious and then we hired

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and aaron paul is amy plays the abrasive things i had written to t i have a wire talking into the microphone the character can be a little annoying, little idiot but also, even At his most spasmodic, this character has heart, what stage are you at? 3a outlines the lymph nodes and that was one of the big moments for me in Breaking Bad was realizing that we knew we had, this kid was golden, yes, this character was golden and the young actor who played them was a keeper.

We needed to keep them close. I want to cook to start with Jesse. I mean, I love him. I really love this kid so much, but when I first read this script I had no idea where he was going. He was supposed to die at the end of the first season, so I don't think you know that Vince didn't know where he was going, the writers didn't know where he was going, so, but where they took him, it was just like that. a brutal fight, you know, this journey that he went on, that I went on, and that we all went on, um, it was incredible, you know, at first it was just this drug exhaustion, but Vince and the other riders were able to tell a much more interesting story. . that just this drug exhaustion and, uh, I love that you and I don't make garbage, we will produce a chemically pure and stable product that works as advertising.

Breaking Bad premiered on January 20, 2008 while critics praised the ratings were lukewarm during the first season when Breaking Bad first appeared on television, you know it was loved by critics from the get-go, but you know it was on AMC , which at the time wasn't necessarily the ratings powerhouse that it would later become with Walking Dead, you know it was like a different universe of Watching TV where people weren't necessarily as interested in serialized television as they would be, but critics They pointed her out from the beginning as a favorite, so sometimes we get things right, yeah, that's about cows, yeah, you know, that scene, uh uh, where he's.

Trying to find out if there's anything around, he's got a big cow house over there about two miles away, but I don't see anybody, then he sees a cow house, a cow house, yeah, it's like a cow house, he says, yes, cows where you know where they are. live yeah where they live a cow house a cow house like he's the idiot you know oh whatever man yeah let's cook here we were just having so much fun with these characters God help me It's a classic type of construct in In the narrative, yes, you have two characters who are forced to be together for one reason or another, but they are diametrically opposed in their composition and for that to come together so quickly and it was so obvious in the episode initial was just it was amazing gold, remember this is the first time you saw Gus do something so nefarious by his own hand and he did it for a reason we never knew, you just don't know what it will be, you have high hopes but we never know In 2008 Breaking Bad premiered on AMC despite modest ratings, the show was a huge hit with critics and Brian Cranston took home the Emmy for Best Actor in a Drama.

Oh my god, oh man, she's bald during the second season too. Creator Vince Gilligan started adding a few new characters. You don't want a criminal lawyer, right? Do you want a criminal lawyer? The role of criminal lawyer? Saul Goodman went to Bob Odenkirk. Hi, I'm Saul Goodman. Did you know that you have rights? the constitution says you have them and so do I. The 47-year-old actor started out as a writer on snl, but was most recognizable for his own comedy series Mr Show with Bob and David. Hi, I'm Don Pratt and I want to help you with everything he can do.

Listen to your stories. or just playing with you and for playing charlatan agent Stevie Grant on the Larry Sanders show, I'm just exercising my right to be the best I can be, that's what America is all about, okay, that's what makes it a great country for the company. What did I say? He's very much the comic relief of

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bad. It's an ambulance chasing a corrupt lawyer who, you know, knows the underbelly of Albuquerque's criminal world and is willing to exploit it for his clients as long as his clients have the money to pay him I'm a lawyer even drug dealers need lawyers , especially the drug dealers, I mean, it was a blast and a challenge to put everything into Breaking Bad, it was funny, oh look, should I call the FBI and tell them?

I found D.B Cooper and he was a very energetic character and it was a lot of fun to play him and also get, like I say, a challenge to be in a room with, you know, these actors at this level, but let's start with some tough love. ready for this here you go you two suck at selling meth period what you two need is an honest businessman right, I was used to being around clowns, you're still idiots, kids playing with mud pies and suddenly I was on this top notch surrounded by these people you know someone like that let's say I know a guy who knows another guy can I help you Mr. master meth dealer and owner of a fast food chain?

Gustavo Gus Fring was played by Giancarlo Esposito. The 51-year-old actor had a long list of film and television credits, but was probably best known for his work with director Spike Lee on Malcolm x Mo Better Blues and Do the Right Thing. . I rarely see Italian Americans eating here, all I see are black people, so we spend a lot of money. here we have an ensemble, it's almost like you know this guy who owns a fast food chain, you also know Don Corleone basically on steroids and the way Giancarlo Esposito plays him there's a really magnetic feeling that it's like gravitational force around which everything else revolves for a long period of the show if you try to interfere I will kill your wife I will kill your son I will kill your little daughter what I enjoyed most was being able to create a character who was calm and didn't really know how to do it, so the most fun thing was figuring out how to lower my spirit and be calm and be observant of everyone else and take some time before speaking and develop a very methodical way of speaking, I didn't know how to do it, but I'm a practicing yogi, so that breathing really helped, I don't think we're alike at all Mr.

White, you have poor judgment and in that second episode the end. from the second season there was a stage direction that said hiding in plain sight and this brought a lot of things to my imagination about what Gus could be and I thought, oh, this is the way to go, do this, all you have left. it's an 8 million hole in the ground for sure uh something that sticks in my head was when john carlo pulls out that box cutter you kill me you have nothing send that oh my god let us get back to work we just pick up right where we left off We stopped because that type of sudden violence is so intense that I don't know, it's very shocking and surprising.

Remember this is the first time you saw Gus do something so nefarious by his own hand and he did it for One reason this is to wake you up because this will happen to you and I could do it to you myself. Well, let's get back to work. The message was certainly sent. I remember that scene more than any other scene we filmed because while Jane was dying. I saw my own daughter's face come to light and die in front of me it's jane right jane I have to say this place is amazing it really inspires ah the second season of Breaking Bad also featured 28 year old Kristen Ritter years, like Jesse's short film. -lived girlfriend jane margolis we should do something yes, no, something else jane, who is jesse's neighbor, starts a relationship with him and she is a recovering addict and they are not good for each other, it is a very toxic relationship and once she starts using drugs again and jesse is introduced to heroin she becomes a very negative force in his life wanting to blackmail walt and use what jesse knows against him to get money well jesse wants is what he wants. wait no more no less what are you talking about 480,000.

What's so interesting about her? is that she also really causes a challenge for walt um i mean in a sense she becomes the most important person in jessie's life and decides that jesse should have a bigger share of the money than some kind of black man or something like that, this is blackmail. because what I know about you, high school teacher turned drug dealer with a dead brother-in-law, would make a great story and, in a weird way, it ends up making her Walt's nemesis of the season, essentially, and leads to the scene. of her death in a really horrible way, how do I know she will stay silent?

I guess not, you're not seeing it right, jessie. You are making a mistake when I read that Wall allowed Jane to die. um and how he played it and it stayed with me for the rest of the show because that was always this burning question: Will Jesse ever find out? uh, the way it was originally written was much more malicious in a way, when Jane was choking on her vomit, she was hating it. It was originally written that Walt pushes her onto her back and in return, you know, I thought she would be more comfortable, maybe this will do it. help her, you know and when I read that, I knew I had to leave the script, I just couldn't believe it, it was already there, you know, this was very early, it was the second season, um, and I think they did a uh, I don't know about where the note came from, but I think they made a good decision.

I think Sony and AMC talked to Vince and said, "This is getting too fast for him to be shoving her atrociously onto her back." Doesn't that make him so guilty that there is no tournament? um and it ended when Walt was trying to shake Jessie awake and in that "You, Jesse wake up" push of hers, she falls on her back and starts choking and then yeah and then. she eventually dies and in my experience something happens that we were talking about earlier about your body and your emotions, when you voluntarily subject them to something traumatic, your body and your emotions don't recognize that you are acting the way you are.

I'm still going through trauma, yes, and I remember that scene more than any other scene we filmed because as Jane was dying, I saw Kristen Ritter giving it her all and her face then faded away and I saw my own daughter's face. coming out into the light and starting and dying in front of me was so disturbing that you couldn't shake it off.above but one of the things I wrote when I was doing my work before the scene of what might be possible emotionally is why should I save her? She could be my daughter, yes, and somewhere in my subconscious she reached the conscious level and there she was.

I watched my own daughter die in front of me and to this day that makes my heart, uh, you. I know I feel heavy, but that's one of the things, it's an emotional risk, I think it's the most dangerous one we face and that was it for me in that scene, everything is going to be okay, I promise, don't move, I know who to call. Jane's death opened up. the door for another new character fixer and occasional hitman mike ermantrout played by jonathan bank the 62 year old actor had enjoyed a career spanning four decades but was perhaps most recognizable for the 1984 hit beverly hills cop are you still mad at me oh no no? but i should have taken care of you in detroit when i found your little friend when we met mike for the first time.

It's not entirely clear who he works for. He has connections with Saul. He has connections with Gus. but we do know that he is a fixer. inside, so after jesse's girlfriend dies, jane mike is brought in to fix the situation and make the authorities not ask questions about what happened here is your story, you woke up, you found her, that's all what you know, no, they needed someone to come in and clean up a mess right, yeah, and bobby couldn't do it because he was doing some comedy somewhere, i'll see you later, uh, randall wilkerson, marshall, eric, gary dinkersfield, like that They called and I went in and I thought I was doing a day job and I went.

When I did, I slapped Aaron really hard in the face, which he still complains about and I went home and I guess the happy accident Jane died and he calls Saul his lawyer and that's how it was written, but Bob was not. He's not available because he wasn't a serious regular at the time, it's still not a serious record, but one day, one day, one day, he keeps fighting, that's true, and hence the need to have another character and I think Vince and the writers. I realized that, wait a minute, Saul wouldn't be the guy to come clean up the mess anyway, he'd know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy and that's who, uh, Jonathan Banks, is the one. room.

I know a guy, yeah, along the way a long career being the fourth guy through the door yeah, yeah, I need to state the obvious, I wasn't here, figuring out when to end up being bad was an agonizing decision, please tell me how much is enough, how big is this pile? It has to be everyone in the world the strobia in 2008 Breaking bad premiered to excellent reviews but mediocre ratings and by 2010 it had not changed much the audience during the first three seasons was almost identical, while Cranston won three consecutive Emmy awards for best actor . I love this business and thank you.

God bless you all. Lee Trevino was struck by lightning twice and now I know how he feels. God bless you all. Thanks to the academy. Good night. It's hard to believe it took this long, but in the fall of 2011 the public finally began to take notice. oh, how long do you think that would take? In September, AMC struck a deal with Netflix, suddenly giving viewers instant access to the first 33 episodes. This word, this phrase, I had never heard, seeing it excessively, practice allowed people to catch up. with a very serialized show, I mean, when I started in television it was anathema to have a serialized show.

You wanted an episodic show, but a serialized show like a hyper-serialized Breaking Bad where you're only really rewarded if you pay strict attention to the smallest details. that really only works in a post-Netflix world that only really works in a post-on-demand streaming world, I mean, you know, I'd love to say, oh yeah, I saw that coming and we planned for it, we just got lucky, I was lucky. It was a pretty drastic difference when Breaking Bad came to Netflix and I think you're right, I think Breaking Bad was the first Bingible show that was still streaming.

I think it was like 30 of their streams at one point, yes and I wish I had bought their stock back then Netflix really was a yes when the Season 4 finale aired, ratings were up 20 percent and almost 2 million tuned in to see Walt end his two-year feud with Gustavo Fring for me there. It was sad but also a relief to let this character go because I felt like you knew it was time to go now. This is Walter White's journey and Gus has been a really wonderful nemesis. I felt like I was leaving something behind with Gus. people could really enjoy themselves and if I could do that then my time was up my job is done what happened I won in 2012 it seemed like the whole country was watching Breaking Bad and in July almost three million were glued to their sets to the fifth and final season premiere yeah magnets oh amc finally decided to greenlight a slightly longer 16 episode fifth season and they split it into eight and eight so it was essentially two shorter seasons instead of a single season and Vince Gilligan has talked about how he almost felt it was necessary in the first half of the fifth season to reset the show and set the scoreboard so that he could then get to the ending that he expected in the back half of the season well, what happened there, it's my birthday, yes, happy birthday, figuring out when to end Breaking Bad was an agonizing decision, please tell me how much is enough, how big does this pile have to be, it must be one of the things I'm most concerned about proud. is that we finished the show, you know, the show was designed as I said before it is a kind of experiment, it was designed to be something finite, the character was designed to not be in stasis but to change to evolve or devolve however you want to see it, we had to our good guy and a certain number of episodes, then he was going to be the bad guy and at a certain point, as a writer, you tell yourself how bad a bad guy can be. and as we saw, walter white got pretty bad, that's right now, say my name, heisenberg, you're absolutely right, I was really saying goodbye to you, your character, but you also know what I'm saying, it was good, skylar, brings. the children here and now we will talk that is not going to happen after a hiatus of almost a year, the second half of the fifth season premiered in August 2013 and almost 6 million viewers tuned in, so maybe the best thing would be to walk with careful.

What's interesting is that when you get to the second half of the final season of Breaking Bad, you get this incredible feeling that a show that had been a critical darling and had a sort of smaller but devoted fan base, suddenly you know you could just feel like there was an emotion brewing around it, it's like it's comparable to how people feel now about the final season of Game of Thrones, it was just this feeling that people were talking about it all time and was wondering, do you know what would happen? Walt and what would happen to Jesse.

What would happen now that Hank knows who Walt is. I think the best testament to any of us who are so in and connected is that we couldn't accurately predict from one episode to the next what was going to happen. How is that possible? When you read a script, you say. I did not see him coming. I didn't know I didn't know it was going to be like this. Yes, it was a trip. Every script was like opening a present so you're here to confess there's nothing to confess when I think about that awkward guacamole scene that day when you talk about what you spent all day telling yourself that you should go and kill yourself what do I have What to do so that Do you think I committed suicide and I looked you in the eyes and I meant it every time I told you that and I had chest pains and I felt like I just wanted to kill myself?

This all dies with you, right? And um, and then I asked him. Which I did many times. She would ask if we had it and then cry because Marie was so. That's what you're saying here is that Hank should let it go and wait for you to die or maybe you should leave. go ahead and die then, but I remember saying he needed to hug you and then I said I'm ready to do a comedy now and I and I thought we did exactly what we were supposed to do with these characters and me. I always loved Marie and the character that Vince wrote and I just wanted to take her on the journey that she deserved and that everyone deserved and I felt like we did that and I never wanted it to end, but it did.

It's a good feeling to feel like we really did justice to everyone in this world, you know, and you don't always understand that it was the irony of the awkward guacamole scene where Marie tells me I should kill myself, is essentially what happened. that in the end he did it I wanted to tell him to kill himself a lot of times I never understood that walter white you have the right to remain silent anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law there are tons of great moments Towards the end of the show, but Hank's death has to be the most memorable and impactful moment the show has ever done.

At this point, Jesse is in cahoots with the DEA, he and Hank lure Walt into the desert. Walt is finally arrested by Hank and is about to be detained, but our current bad guys, the neo-Nazis, show up, please drop your weapons, and a horrible shootout ensues. Hank is left on the ground, out of range of his firearm, oh, he shines down there, sparkling, he's about to be murdered by the Nazi boss, sorry man, there's just no setting for this guy to live in, no, no, don't listen and Walt for the umpteenth time in the show tries to use his words and his brain to get out of the situation.

The DEA doesn't know about this, not yet Hank. nothing can change what just happened but you can leave if you're alive in one last attempt to save hank walt beg for his brother in law's life you have to tell him now we can solve this please please please whatever you want to beg hank no back up, he says one of the best lines in the entire series, you're the smartest guy I've ever met, too stupid to see it, he made a decision 10 minutes ago and I remember looking at, you know, Brian. saying: you know new 10 minutes ago I was like I was really saying goodbye to you your character but you also know what I'm saying it was everything was fine there it was like and everything was mixed together You know, with the fact that he was saying goodbye to me to you and Walt Disney and Walter just said yeah, let's make this last a little bit longer and it was, um, it was very, it's emotional, you know, it ends emotional and it ends, you know.

Do what you're going to do when Hank dies. The camera actually focuses on Walt's face and you see how everything slips away thanks to him, as if you knew that a member of his family has been murdered, a member of the police. the agency has been killed like hank like hank is dead now um it looks like from here on out you know walt is as dead as hank is to a certain extent hey i had a really hard time with hank's death and that was It's not the end, but it was part of the end of everything and you know, sometimes we would read the script and we would all email and everyone would email about that episode and I said if I don't read it, that means it won't.

It just so happens that you'll never see Hank again. I haven't seen that scene yet because I just can't watch them drag you away and I just can't I just can't and I understand that it's pretending that you know it's not like texting. I like Marie all day and you know, I hope you guys show up at my house wearing purple, but um, I just, really, and this is what I said about him and I feel her too, I said especially in This story was very funny. to be a part of that relationship because they were, maybe, flawed, but they like such good people and to be a part of love and I thought Hank should be in the world.

You know, the world is better with some people in it and he is one. of them like he should have been in it and I still can't see it, you let that sink in, it was incredibly moving, it was really beautiful and we just hugged each other, you know, and cried when we finished. Our job, I thought, if people love this show, God bless them, I want to do it right after five seasons, 62 episodes, 58 Emmy nominations and 16 wins, including two for best drama, Breaking Bad, which ended on September 29, 2013. More than 10 million tuned in to one of the most anticipated series finales in television history.

I dreaded it because I just didn't want it, I didn't want it and it came too quickly when you're watching 16 episodes to go. your story and then it came too quickly our feelings were exacerbated by the fact that not only were we saying goodbye to our characters, but we were saying goodbye to each other and that under those circumstances we were never going to be able to do that. To be in this situation again, so it was the actors who said, the real people said goodbye and the characters, it's goodbye for them, so it was like that, that effect was very profound, well, what happened there, it's my birthday, yes, well, happy birthday, the end. go back to where we started season five, you know, Walt turned 52, congratulations on his last birthday, he's coming back toAlbuquerque after having been on the run and returned with some unfinished business.

Part of that business has to do with his family in At least you guys have to talk one more time about how you did this for the family. I did it for me. I liked. They know. Honestly, Walter White says I did it because I liked it. I mean, he's like a huge pull. To pull off the surprise, I was good at it, but it also resonates and makes a lot of sense, and there's just his ability to take all these elements and they were talking before to surprise you with the next script and what's going to happen, and still.

It makes emotional sense, he was alive, that's the trick, it doesn't come out randomly, it doesn't come out like just throwing you against the wall to surprise you or change things, that's the really amazing trick that he did and continues to do. Before I go, can I see you, the most moving scene of that episode, just to witness on set, I will never forget, was the scene where Walt says goodbye to his, his, his little daughter in her crib, that was a of Anna Gunn and Brian Cranston's best acting moments, of course, it was sad, there was a real sense of seeing an era that you know and something extraordinarily fortunate and important, for all of us, that you know, come to an end, but it came to close in such a good way was incredibly moving, it was really beautiful and we just hugged each other, you know, and cried when we were done with our work, so those guys had to go on, they said we weren't.

I get out of here, but this all leads us to this final confrontation, while such a meticulous guy knows that he has unfinished business with Uncle Jack and with the neo-Nazis and we also know that he got that gun a long time ago. the season premiere, what are you going to do with that? The worst was a damn M60 machine gun because we planted it and I would recommend it to anyone starting out making their own show, their own serialized show, don't be cute and put something like ooh, the hero cuts the villain, you know, the protagonist You buy an M60 machine gun at the beginning of a season, what will you use it for?

I have no idea, but it sounds great, let's do it, we did that to ourselves, we painted ourselves in this corner and one of the worst parts, as I remember, one of the moments I've never been more angry with myself, we were in the writer's room and I would say you know, okay, we have to pay for this machine gun. Walt bought that machine gun and I literally bought that machine gun at one point and that's why you need good people around you to keep you honest. I said you know, let's forget the machine gun, the audience.

I'm not going to remember the machine gun and they said to me: Are you crazy? So we're left with that. We finally discovered the machine gun, but it was difficult sledding for a while. I was there. I don't want to go through that. Again, damn man, this thing is a classic waltz, he sets up a meeting with the Nazis, he drives to his compound, he parks his car in this very specific way and you know you're not really thinking about what that means, precisely, no, no, simply directly into the man. okay yeah whatever so he asked to see jesse and jesse at this point has been held captive by these guys he's alive isn't he he's cooking for you what are you gonna lie he He is alive, he and I are not partners, no. for a damn sight and it's like he's saying it's horrible to see Jesse like this, he's clearly essentially like his little cockroach monster that's like making meth and he's held captive, go get him, bring him here, it's just that you already know this . moment when you are surprised to see jesse this way walt is also surprised to see jesse this way he thought jesse was working with them he didn't realize he was imprisoned so there is a very delicate moment when walt he's apparently nice to attack jesse, he's actually grabbing his keychain, he presses trunk type and that sets up this whole mechanism that he built and in one of the most satisfying reveals of the show, this gatling gun comes out of the trunk of the car. spray the entire complex and everyone who isn't lying on the ground is completely and absolutely decimated and you know it's a bit of a stretch to imagine that as if everyone is lined up perfectly right in front of the bullets, like I think that's a situation in which the show is okay, yeah we can accept this because it's good, but you know, the final showdown after the only two left standing are Walt and Jesse and Walt swipes the gun and tells Jesse to kill him Do it, Jesse.

You can see that Walt has been shot and he doesn't want to answer it anymore, so he refuses to pull the trigger, so you do it yourself, Jesse runs away and at the end we have Walt just dying from a gunshot wound and you realize that he is a little melancholic and happy and there is a moment of almost satisfaction at what he has achieved. We start hearing the sky blue tones when playing with bad fingers and you realize that for Walt, this is the final shot of the show, the camera lifting up a dead Walt. on the ground when the police arrive, the ending is almost perfect because Walt gets what he deserves, as the song says, in the sense that he deserves to die.

You know my own mother, Gail Gilligan, in Chester County, Virginia, uh, sweet, uh, well, her. You'll kill me for saying she's a sweet little old lady, as you might expect, you know, photo of Aunt B from the Andy Griffith show and at the end of Breaking Bad she told me why you had to kill him. She really she loved him. to escape, I thought: Mom, are you kidding me? I had no idea that people would relate to this character the way they did and I have to tip my hat to Brian Cranston, it really is all, it's all down to Brian Cranston for being so understanding that we started uh better call Saul I was walking a lot going Where are everybody?

Aren't they going to come from around the corner? I knew after the success of Breaking Bad that if I didn't get into something else too Dulce, you know, I would probably enter this state of creative paralysis, I would say that I would start guessing and triple everything that from that moment on I wanted to do and I would say, man, you know, this is who I am. I'm contemplating whether it's good enough that the final episode of Breaking Bad aired in September 2013 and just 18 months later, Gilligan's new prequel series, Better Call Saul, premiered on February 8, 2015. Frankly, I'm not looking Guilty people to represent, I mean.

Who needs that hassle? We entered well. I think we finished a mix on a Friday of the latest Breaking Bad. We got to the writers' room the following Monday, as I remember. I better call Saul. It was the best we could have done. because it kept us moving and for me that was what I needed better call saul takes place six years before saul goodman, aka jimmy mcgill, first meets walter white the kind of hellish math is that 700 per No defense, there is no accused, it dents three accused 2100, who because of the way I negotiated what I did for them are going to go to jail, aren't they sausages?

When does that matter? What can I say? My program. This story still continues for me. But there's a pretty big jump between Saul and Breaking Bad and Jimmy McGill watched Better Call Saul, so I mean you only saw one dimension of him in Breaking Bad, so this show was a setup and then this has been a huge journey on the many sides they brought. For this character in this second show, Better Call Saul is almost like his origin story in a way, but of course the most interesting and compelling person who went from Breaking Bad to Better Call Saul as a supporting character is Mike Erman Trout.

I want to know why I didn't take that money. That's what you're asking. Yes, that's what I'm asking myself personally. I was hired to do a job. I did it. As far as it goes for Bob and continues. It's winning the lottery, it's whatever cliché you want to use and it's painful when you get to the end of the couch to be with you guys, me, what is it? I don't know where that came from, um, when Bob and I. It started when we started uh I better call Saul I thought there was a ghost in the lot Bobby was nervous Bobby couldn't talk It was probably this he was going to the show but I was walking a lot going where everyone is Aren't you going? to come from around the corner I didn't know I was going to do this oh I haven't slept enough that's probably what you are um good luck and I love Mike my favorite scene was killing Mike Ermatra this whole thing could have been averted, let me die in peace and if it took you long enough you want to mention it, you know what we're going to do right now.

It's been 10 years since Walt's first cook and Breaking Bad is still around. the short list of the best television dramas ever made, I think this is timeless because of what it explores about human nature and how it delves into the human psyche and again, I'm sorry I'm drowning because It just reminds me of filming those scenes and how real and scary and heartbreaking it all was and, yeah, so lucky to have had that, oh my gosh, they've really aged, haven't they? I love these people. You know, I feel blessed. I've shared this amazing, uh, breaking bad experience with each and every one of these people.

I remember when we were filming the first season, Dean and I were talking, he says, you know, 10 years from now we'll look back and say, damn. I used to be a part of Breaking Bad and now it's crazy that it's been 10 years and I'm still constantly thinking you know, it's like, wow, how lucky we all are, it's like you know, like the great philosopher Kenny once told you Rogers. You've got to know when to hold them and you've got to know when to fold them and, you know, we, we, we folded them and I think in retrospect we did it at the right time, you don't want to leave the party, right?

You want to be the last guy at the party with the lampshade on your head and everyone's like, when is he going to leave here? So, it was better to leave, leave them wanting a little more. He created a kingdom of storytelling. that that opened up to the world what was now possible that the box that you thought you were in before can be completely erased and we're seeing spinoffs of Breaking Bad, you know, in many ways and I think I find that flattering and flattering. in a lot of ways, you know, I mean people said it was the best show in the history of television, you know, you can argue I guess not, you can't, but we came if we're not the best show, you guys weren't the best. show that it is better for other people to determine yes, it is up to me to determine determinant thank you very much for taking the time thank you thank you thank you damn, I don't want to, I mean, can we keep talking?