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I'm Greg Cotrell, I'm president and founder of Rugged Radios and I'm happy to be here today. I've known Tony for a long time and if you feel like a part of this we'll do a test one day so I'm part of the

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talk and I can't wait to answer questions and tell people more about rugged radios. Awesome, yes I'm dusty inside, I'm a marketing director. We are closely associated with Greg and are very excited to be here. It's amazing, they came out early today and worked on all of our vehicles. It's great because they are really interested in getting the process perfect for us.

I don't know, I don't know if they worked on the race car or not. like a lot of parts, it's been a lot of parts, but often they come and work specifically on the race car, but this time they actually worked on all of our jeeps, which was great, they have a ton of new stuff. that thing that they've been working on that was installed today on our jeeps and antennas and other things that I'll have you talk about first for those viewers who are not familiar with what a racing radio is. Many of us within the industry have changed from cbs, so let's talk about the difference between a cb and a racing radio.

You know many differences. You know which one was first. Today was great to go out because you know what to give to my team. in racing environments, yeah, because we call it hair on fire, when you're in a race, it's hair on fire and everything has to be done now, so to go out in a relaxed environment, come to your building, go by all these cars , you know it's like that too. For us we have a learning curve that we can go through and see the diversity of all the cars, how things are put together, what they do, where this is a learning moment for us as well, so we can show you the latest in products, give you a little education. about radios, but also about educating ourselves about our customers that are in the field, yeah, today we talked about, you know, from top to bottom, we were coming up with all the different configurations, so it was really nice, like you say, we normally never have that . opportunity to have a good chat, you know it's great because you guys are all jeep, you live that life, you know, for us as a media company we are living the jeep life, the trophy truck life, the class 11 life, aviation life, fire truck. the side by side, I mean the diversity of motorcycles that you guys have, most motorcycles, I mean, it's crazy how many things you guys do and, uh, and the thing is this, so come to the experts by jeep to find out what they are doing. new products the constructions and how to make a cage the top we talk about from top to top what are our solutions what are we going to do we have to scratch our heads a little and find the right solution but dealing with people like you will help us a lot in the future and then there will be things available on your website, so now, just like your customers, when they come to you, they will be able to buy everything, they will also be able to buy everything resistant directly from you and now we can refine it. those things because there is a big difference between cb uh commercial band radios gmrs radios ham radios the world of radio is very broad and now we are trying to educate about which direction people are going because right now it's like the balls are in the air and they're saying what ball do I catch, yeah, okay and that's what's fun today, coming here and talking about this, so just a quick overview of heavy duty radios.

I've been doing this for a long time, I mean, tough. about 16 years for robusto, in fact I started, this is my 30th year doing what I have done in communications. I originally had another company where I designed and built all these products for nascar, indycar, off road aviation, I sold that company and they were done. I'm going to run it into the ground, I got my radio back, I got my factory back, I built all these products, I mean I have people that I hired 30 years ago on the assembly line, it's crazy and people don't even know that, wow, that it's great!

I've been doing this for a long time making private labels for everyone, whatever you say I've private labeled so I've been doing this for a long time. You know, I consider myself the world's expert on this because, man, I have a lot of experience and you know how fun it is to actually do communications education now and do these things because you know we're trying to be the best we can and lead people in the right direction and as I say today, just stop out and look at the jeeps. I have my original JL sitting there.

I'm looking at this thing with 40 inch tires and everything else. Then I bet you that 40 inch tire and that jeep drives exactly like mine with the original windows down the road, so yeah. so I'm a little jealous, you know, although I'm a little jealous and it makes me want to, huh, maybe I need to do a little more with my jeep, well, you know exactly the right guy, so that's okay, so let's go back to cbs. versus explaining to people why there's been this transition and you know, because CBs have been the standard for a long time, man, my dad grew up, so I remember Death Valley in our um 51 Willie's Wagon, okay, we're going to Death Valley with the CB radio inside, check these out.

They have been around for a long time and people have used them for everything cb I don't know how many millions they sell cb has a lot of problems with things and that's why the transition to other types of radios cbs has a maximum of seven watts, uh cv is a band am, antennas and tuning are absolutely critical, you're dealing with seven watts, well, when we have something, a commercial ban radio in your race car, a racing radio quote, we talk about racing radios, we talk about a commercial band. radio they have been using and racing for a long time so the races started very early like in the Baja races they used commercial band radios and it just kept going until the end so you can get 50 watt radios some radios career.

Even if you have 110 watt radios, you can get really powerful radios, well, cbs, 7 watts, yeah, that doesn't go very far, so you know it doesn't go very far, so it's absolutely critical the location of the antenna. Today we talked about the proper placement of antennas. look at that big six foot long Fire Stick antenna on the cb, you must have a swr meter, it is essential to test it, you must make sure everything is perfect so you can use it in a somewhat short range because you are only dealing with seven watts when you have small portable radios so let me grab one of these here yeah so you have something like one of our v3 commercial band radios you have something that is a five watt portable radio so you have a little bit you can get a portable speed of five watts, as well as a mobile holder in your jeep for a uh, a radio with CD is a maximum of seven, most of them are for that, it's almost the same power, so it's almost the same power, so that you have something like this. then you have gm rs radios, gm rs radios weigh about 2 watts, uh, the FCC limits the radiation factor of the gmrs radio, so there is a limitation, handhelds are 2 watts, yes, handhelds they have two watts, but the unique thing about gmrs radios is that you can get up to 50.

Watt Mobiles, so now we talk about we have CB, we have racing radios and then we also call them consumer brand radios, so the radio from the consumer, so hey, you're going out jeeping with your friends, GMR radios are absolutely great, it's a uhf band license. settings for you get a 10 year family license to use the channels on these radios uh the gmrs radios work fantastic, are they also pre-programmed or is it a channel you can select, how does it work? I have never seen it. So with gmrs radios the fcc has a set of channel and frequency assignments for gmrs so these radios are programmed for those frequencies so you can quickly scroll through them and all the gmrs channels if you have another brand of gmrs radio, just select the channel and code and you can talk to any of the others, it's okay, we use something different, we use aluminum chassis radio, so we design and build all our products, so, like this radio , this gmrs radio we have, this is our new gmr2.

Designed and designed 100 by us, so that's what happens with many of our new products. I have used casings from other radios and then built the internal parts. Now we are building our entire radio from start to finish, like this radio is 100. toolbox and we are trying to make them ergonomic the correct button locations the correct display high definition displays we are trying to improve our yes, these were things easy to use that people intended to yeah, yeah, exactly, so we're We're making a lot of changes on the consumer side, so in the races, sometimes, when you're out of the races, sometimes, when you have All these consumers who buy banned commercial radios, what happens is that they are also walking into the racing channels.

We're trying to make sure we can separate that when they're a professional racing team. Perfect, you are a professional race. That's a business for you. I mean, they're in the racing business. They are a professional career. driver, you know what and that is in professional racing, use the commercial band radios because that is what it is intended for, you must be licensed for all your channels on all of our commercial band radios. We license all of our channels for our customers to use now. of our channels there we have air licenses and we also have licenses for the entire United States, so it is a combination of channels and all of our frequencies, but we have done everything we can working with the FCC to have all the proper licenses and do everything we can . but gmrs radios i'm going to tell you guys, it's the future in play jeep when you're playing in jeep the gmrs radios is a uhf band it works much better it's amazing the clarity it works in canyons a lot of Sometimes, the jeeps aren't that far apart, so like I say, we have a 25 watt waterproof radio, we have another 45 watt radio, uh, the 25 is an easy little mount on the jeeps, it's just a great product and you know what all your friends do.

It's like when you're running, you tune to the same channel, yeah, you can talk to everyone and you know what an experience when you're playing in your jeep and you're in Death Valley and you're crawling. some and you're talking to everyone else, cool people, I remember being honest, why am I in this business? I mean, I grew up in the number one Kawasaki dealership in the country, so my parents I grew up in a motorcycle shop. a performance mechanic who started out, I was uh, we were known for having the best Honda engines out there, so we had the Urbandale race track every Friday night, we had a race team to compete in motocross, so what I was there and we had the fastest. bikes out there I grew up in a performance shop, it was a lot of fun, but then we started a communications business and I fell in love with communications because my dad would talk on that old CB radio and as a kid, you listen to it. and you're like a man or had a little.

I remember I had this equipment and I built my own radio so I could talk to my friend on the street. I don't remember what kind of kid Radio Shack was, yeah, Radio Shack. or something like that, but that's what I remember back then, when it went to 40 channels, man, it was like the world opened up, you know and you know what, and I love communications, that's cool because you know what's in Everything, you know, people ask what I do. and I tell people very simply that if you have to talk loudly, that's what I do, so anything with noise I can handle it and uh, and that's the fun thing about what we do as a company because I make fire trucks , aviation, police officers, who are engaged in racing.

I mean, racing is a big part of our culture because my dad used to raise Baja, my dad raised the class 11, uh, on the Baja 1000 when it was a Mexican 1000. That's cool, early 70's so last time I ran in spa. It was 2015 and I moved up to class 11. I will not compete in any other class. It's a difficult class. If I'm going to be in a race car, it's going to be a concert performer class. How are we doingin the questions? We have a few questions, are you ready, are you ready for something for sure. Our friend Kelly Sims jumped in right away.

She has an rrp 660. She can hear phone calls through her headphones but can't convey what the problem might be. What is the cell phone music switch? used to hear the engine grind in headphones it's important that it's connected directly to the battery so a couple of things here um the 660 let's see it was a 660 plus it just said rrp 660 I think it's bluetooth, yes then. A couple of things when you're connected directly to the battery, it's one of the most common things we talk about in racing, so we're really trying to make a big effort to educate our customers on how to install it properly because of the noise. of the engine and the wind. and that kind of thing, like a race car, you know, we sell a lot of products and we found out that we need to up our game in education, we're very good at selling, but maybe the instructions weren't clear enough or we didn't do it.

I didn't put it front and center or someone didn't read the instructions so we're really trying to get education and direct access to a battery is a big question because a lot of people, instead of wiring directly, go directly to the fuse block and They say the fuse block is directly to the battery. Well, there are many other things. the ignition is tied to a fuse block, it can create wind in the engine many times they say, well, ground, connect the ground directly to the battery, well, I hit the chassis and the battery is grounded directly to the chassis, you can get a ground loop. you may have a ground loop problem in the communications, it's a lot like the car stereo, okay, the car stereo fights the exact same battle as the communications, you need to connect it directly to the battery, okay, because that will help remove the engine lines as well.

I sell noise filters, so sometimes, as you know, I say it's very parallel to the car stereo because we're dealing with the same issues, we're dealing with grounding, we're dealing with groundwork issues and we're dealing with power. clean that amplifies any noise. there is background noise, yes, as for the other topic of the conversation, so I want to make it clear if you are talking on a cell phone. Yes, our intercoms you can talk on cell phone if you have a Bluetooth intercom. Now we did a The couple changes so originally the um on some of the intercoms the cell phone was aimed directly at the co-pilot so when you had to be in the co-pilot port to be able to talk on the cell phone because we dedicated the microphone there so You would have to see what generation your intercom is if you called our tech line and our tech line could answer the question right away so you may need to change the port driver and code driver that way your microphone It's straight to the cell phone now.

Could I press the talk button when I wanted to talk or does that not work? No, it is because the port is dedicated to the cell phone. Well, since then, a lot of the intercoms that we make today we've made party line cell phones because a lot of people said well, someone in the back wants to say something at that moment, it's impossible, yeah, and I'm like, but now it's collecting everything, so why didn't I do that at the beginning? You know, but a lot of times when I developed a lot of these products. He had a racial mentality when he did these things and he just had a racial mentality and what he did was play when he was driving and he was going fast.

I don't want to talk on the cell phone. I would. I let my co-pilot talk on the radio, cell phone, so I set everything to default in the controller code, so there was a method and a reason why I did that, but this is what changes, yes, we learn, we are doing more. We are listening to our industry and our customers and making changes to the product. A great question. So Kelly has a jeep that was built by us so that she literally she could just take the headphones from the driver and move them to the passenger.

Take the passenger's headphones and the easiest way. Try, yes, yes, that would be the easiest. Try to find out what that is and if so, all you have to do is unplug the cables from the back of your phone, switch them and plug them in and there will be no difference in performance. he'll have his jeep here soon so we can do it for you, so when he's here, hey, if we'd be looking at him outside right now, great question, yeah, what else do you have? John Miller, how to be 100 legal. a vhf racing radio please and thank you so how to be 100 legal?

If you're using it for racing, I don't know if you're a consumer runner. What I would do is go to a frequency coordinator. use fit, they are one of the main frequency coordinators in the country. You give them the areas where you are using your radio and ask them to apply for a license. It's very easy, it doesn't take much time and it's not that expensive. and you can apply for area licenses, you can apply for licenses all over the US, that's the easiest way, the easiest way, it's not difficult and that's different than a ham radio course, it's different than a ham radio course because Amateur radio has a different frequency range, but the frequencies are very close in amateur radio, so there are different levels of amateur radio operator licenses you can obtain.

You can get a ham radio technician license that allows you to talk on a wide variety of frequencies, so when you go, I tell everyone to go get their ham radio. radio license is great, it's so good to know proper radio etiquette, yeah, okay, it's so good to know, when there's an emergency, let someone handle your emergency because sometimes everyone talks on the same channels and the Proper radio etiquette is really important and you know what? In ham radio classes they teach you a lot about two-way radios, so I really encourage everyone. There are so many ham radio classes online now that there weren't before, you had to go find a ham radio club that gave out ham radio licenses and now. you can take online courses, you can do a lot of things now that were not available before because our world has changed, yes, you know, last year, yes, in the last year things changed a lot, so now you can do a lot more things . online, so yeah, there's ham radio stuff, we can go into more of that later, but it fits, it's right on our website, we have a link to go there, which is great, the best way to start getting a legal license 100 in the FCC. legal license to use your vhf uh race radio and their website is simply rugoso.com, right, ruggedradios.comradios.com and then on all of our razer, all of our race radios, all of our vhf radios come pre-programmed with our license channels by the FCC, so use, you know, buy one of our radios and use the channels there and we have all the information on our website, uh, we, wide channels, the area, the area channels, we have everything detailed there , etc., but as I say, it fits. there is a great company, very friendly, very easy, we send a lot of clients there, okay, very good question, okay, our viewer michael roarick.

I would like to know how to program my rugged radio, so a couple of things programming the best we can do. I found out about a company called rt Systems. Well, they are software engineers. These guys are amazing. They don't do anything with the radio itself, but they made programming easy, so for us programming has been the hardest thing in the world because half the time if we had software. We had to be computer engineers because then it's not on the right communication port and I mean we had to diagnose your computer to try to set this up right, it's your software so you have to diagnose it and man it's so hard for us not to do it. .

I know if you're running Windows 95 or 2000 or what's going on and some old programs like Motorola programs were made for DOS systems oh wow and they're still like that today it's crazy okay a lot of the radios don't have appeared. to the new operating system standards well rt Systems we also have the link on our website for rt Systems they are software engineers they

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ize in easy software for programming radios so I recommend going to their site I think it's about fifty dollars I think it's fifty Dollars for the cable and that's awesome okay so I have a question about that because I bought it and I've never used it but is that going to do this and the base units or is it specific to each one?

That's right, but certainly do you have a list of the software that works with each right? Well, the thing is, they have a lot of our software and it's the same, so we work with them, we haven't designed a lot of software for ourselves, so that way they can do it. You pick up all these different products that they make, so you might even have something other than our brand radio, which is something else. They have a huge list of things you can choose from and all the programming protocols are the same so once you learn. how to program one, you know how to program them all, yeah, and there's always one guy in the group that's like the computer guy or the tech guy, you're like he's the one who gives it to you, get that guy to turn it on. . that's right and then give him a six pack of beer and have fun and stuff, yeah, okay, now it's that different for these, so you don't have to schedule anything at all.

GMRS is a set frequency, they are a set band of channels, so they are all the same, so my GMRS radio and one you pick up at Walmart will have the same channels, how many channels are we talking about here? There are 22 and there are three subsets for each channel, yeah, and then there are repeater channels like well, so you can bounce off repeaters instead of wherever and there are sub-audible tones that you can put on there, I mean, so you can program on many more channels. I forget how many you can change all the combinations to be able to have a channel and all these different subtones, so there's a thousand or twelve hundred different variations that you can possibly in a jeep club and you guys can find a channel that nobody else is on and then your friend who didn't plan ahead and didn't If you don't install cell phone, you can stop by Walmart and grab something that doesn't work as well, but you can still talk well over short distances.

Is this what you used on the ground and on the road? Were you telling me that story or was it this. I know they're good so yeah we're good so dirt and handling and this kind of stuff works very very well and this way you know we really want to try it and we're trying to educate people more because like When you talk about racing when you're in the race car, I mean, we've had cases where we've heard other people talk on racing channels, yeah, and the thing is that man, we don't want to see that for you, and that.

What people don't understand is that the moment they get in line, the driver and co-driver can't talk properly, that eliminates the intercom conversation, so you know we're listening to whatever it is, even if they're just standing in front to the microphone. I can't talk anymore, so it's quite frustrating when you're in the race. Well, I would love to have a consolidated list of all the riders so that everyone is on the same page, you know, and everyone is on the same protocol, and you know I would love to, but it's really difficult because it's gotten a little bit out of hand because there's so many races, so many racers, yeah, and then you have the team guys, yeah, Deb has another question, uh, anthony, travis andre, uh, but what radio do you recommend for a chase truck? um, chase truck, that means you're racing in Baja, so you're racing, you're racing in Baja, that's why I would do a VHF for Baja racing, we're using VHF, which goes back to this, yeah, it goes back to a commercial band.

VHF. radio, so that's what I would use if you ran one of ours, I would use our rdmdb, uh, a lot of what we're doing is going digital. Do we have one of those here? I don't think I have one here, okay? It's a little different than some of the radios we have pictured here, but we're also making a massive transition to digital, so our rdm is analog and digital now, so for you guys, we have a lot of new things coming. so stay tuned for what we're going to set up for the near future on race radios and we're going to radically change the game yeah we're a little off color trying out some things so we're going to have a lot of things that are going to be the ultimate in communications amazing, like our new rdm db, which is a digital radio, so it can transmit digital or it can transmit analog, so that's really important because once you get into the digital revolution, what it does is it only transmits your voice, so when you start talking back and forth, when your pit crew calls you, you will only hear their voice, when you call them, theyThey will simply hear no. noise, we have text messages built in, so we have burst technology and text messages, so you could have pre-programmed text and then you can send it punched, you could say, we're good, we're good, yeah, you know. flipped we're fine, you could have things pre-programmed and send messages, hopefully we're not flipped, you passed the competitor who flipped and now you're in first place, if that's pre-programmed you're doing it wrong man. uh but yeah, I forgot to ask the question, the rdm db would be the best radio we have right now for a chase truck and chase trucks are very important because there are a lot of times that you guys go out and put all this effort into your running a car and do all that and then you get a friend who can volunteer their time and you don't know what they have, yeah, and your communications are only as good as the person you're talking to, very important, but one thing I want to touch on is when you have a chase truck, what I would like you to do is talk to our team in your chase truck.

Send a photo of your chase truck so we can tell you the proper antenna location because just like we saw here today. of your employees had the rack that was right next to the antenna and that will radically interfere with the antenna, so no matter what radio you use, what we would like to do is educate you on how to place the antenna in the proper location because it doesn't matter what No matter how powerful the radio you have or whatever you have, if you don't have the right antenna and you don't have the right location, it won't work, yeah, so make sure you do it, no matter what you buy, just give us a call.

We will consult with you and tell you what to do with your vehicle. Yeah, cool, okay. Our friends at Alien Fab 4x4 asked me if there was a one radio combo set that covered CB channels and their channels, so there's no need to do that with AMCB. uh and VHF radios it's not legal for the FCC to do that so you can't do that. The FCC has made a lot of changes to the rules and things, especially in the last two years, a lot of things have changed and they've gotten a lot tougher. Down on a lot of different things.

I wish there was a combo. Now we do multi-radio.interfaces we do things like that, like I have a multi-radio interface where you can put three radios on a handheld microphone or three radios on your intercom, which allows you to change the inoperability, so I send vehicles for the police, so in command vehicles. I can put three six nine radios in a system so they can then talk on all these different channels and select which ones they want to talk about, but that's still the HF or they're still individual radios that are merged into one unit.

It can't have been merged well into a separate unit and I think this question comes from when you were talking about digital and analog, they were thinking, oh I can do all this stuff, yeah, I'd love it if you could, if you could. do that, I would be all over that, but unfortunately you can't do that, even at ejs we had a gmrs mo one of our mobiles in the vehicle and then we had a lot of our race teams, race ambassadors and things were out. There, we also had one of our v3 portables in the jeep, so a lot of times, unfortunately, it's like VHF DVD Beta Max, yeah, it's the same thing, but it's not a different shape and you know what it is. good question, so don't think it's a very common question because look how many CVs there are.

I just talked to my son. One of my son's friends bought a truck. He's going to make some landings. The first thing he did was. He goes out and buys a CB radio because that's what I have to have right and all the CB fares still sell a lot of them, they don't work very well but everyone thinks they have to have them so now you have a group of people. with cbs and you have half the group on gmrs radios and they can't talk to each other well, how do I talk to each other? You know it's going to take a little time because this is the future and things are like competing.

The vhf playback will be on gmrs radios and it will take some time for them all to filter in, you know, in the new way of doing it, and I want to mention one thing: you said this will talk to a frs radio, yes. but it's smaller, like less power, yeah, yeah, the frs is like it's basically your toy, yeah, when you buy your grandson or your son, you know, for ten bucks, yeah, yeah, no, fr radios -s have a very low radiation factor, so they have the radiation frequencies around them, they are regulated to a very tight tolerance, so most of them are not even a watt.

Heck, most of them are three-quarters or half a watt, which is why they're made for kids. So when you hold the radio, the radiant factor around you, they are subject to it. They've made some changes in the last few years so the tolerance is so strict that they don't go very far and I remember Debbie. and I had it for when I was reversing the motor home, she would get into one and obviously it's 100 feet or whatever you know, so it's not far, that'll work great, okay, okay, What else do you have, huh, Cory lonewolf picard?

I asked if the rugged team will be on the Colorado trip. We haven't been invited so one of the events we go to is uh Rock Junction in Grand Junction. It is the first week of June. Awesome, so I know you guys do a lot. of events I don't even know if that's on your radar, well it would be fun to take a look at that event and it would be fun maybe if we could, even if we work to be there at the beginning of the event. help people prepare spend a day to get everyone connected so everyone has a great trip uh that would be fun to do and you know the race events and they're hard they're hard events like this one they're fun yeah that one It's the kind of thing I want to do more of, I mean, we do robust radio, we do about 92 events a year, okay, when everything changed with the coven and everything that happened, our events stopped, I'll tell you what it was, man, we have a break, we have to break 92 events. one year I have these trailers everywhere from Mexico to the east, I mean, we can't even post our event calendar because it's so overwhelming that, I mean, it's hard, it burns out our team, but no, but I saw them on uh . trail hero, I mean, you're hitting a lot of people, we're hitting a lot of people, yeah, because you know how much we love jeeps, yeah, you know the things that you guys do as a company, I mean, and you're very focused on what you do and I mean, we would love to focus on one place, but jeeping and it's a family event, yeah, and that's the great thing about it, you can go with your family and you have fun and then when your kids grow up and they're driving and my son has a jeep my wife has a jeep I have a jeep my son has a gene you know we love jim and even when we do our experience koh, we do all the storytelling about race, so you know it's one of those things in the ones that if you want to hear everything we're talking about, that's how you have to do it, so the only thing I don't like about your experience with Koh is what's after Koh. hahaha okay so you're like oh so we're so tired that as soon as we're done we're like pedaled to the metal and out of here we're the first fuck get me out of here yeah.

Now that Jordan is the main racer in our family, you know he used to be me and I liked to navigate and narrate everything and now it's all him, yeah, so I just drive and let him talk, you know, this happened here and there. So, it's good, what else do you have? Your friend Kelly Sims. How much does a radio like the Jordan 110 watt cost and how much better than my radio? You know, a lot of the radios for a radio production struggle like the Kenwood is really struggling in radio production right now, so it's hard to get them.

People are asking such high prices for them right now, which is why they are very expensive. How much do those things cost? I don't even know now that they cost $2,500. What I mean is that they are now manufacturing all the digital standards, so the prices have gone up a lot. Components have become very short, so many radio factories are really struggling with that. We now make 50 watt radios, we have more on the way. Upon arrival, we have been investing in coal and tool production and we have a lot of components to build, so Kelly's radio, his antenna was mounted like Jeff's and Jamie's in that back corner, so Kelly what they were told was that it needed. go to the roof so that a properly installed radio, a correctly installed lower power radio works very, very well, so what happens is when people ask me all the time about 50 watt radios, 110 watt radios, then It is not like this.

You go from a 5 watt handle to a 25 watt radio, that's your biggest jump, so you go from 25 watts to 50 watts, you get a smaller jump going from 50 to 110, you're gaining about 20 percent, no It is equal to twice the power. the wattage is only about 20, well here's the thing, if you have a properly tuned antenna and a proper cable and everything for your radio and your ground connection is correct and you are putting out maximum wattage on your 50 watt radio, surpasses most. of 110 watt radios because most 110 are not installed correctly the antenna is not right it is not tuned now if you have a 110 watt radio properly tuned it can have that twenty percent more power, that is twenty percent hundred more distance because No power and distance are not equal one by one, so it's not equal like that, so what it will do is whatever you have if you have a 110 watt radio.

Great, it's a great radio, but have the right antenna and get a swr meter. make sure your cable is not coiled, there are no extra cables, make sure your cable is cut to the proper length or that it is routed perfectly and away from anything else that could create interference and then you will be able to get the most out of your radio as well which yeah and Kelly, uh, they were talking to Lee today, one of our installation techs, and they gave him a ton of tech tips on how to do it, so maybe Lee can even take a look at his jeep next time he's in In it, I'll say something funny.

Kelly because he's a friend of mine most of the time Kelly, I can't hear you because I just turned the volume down. Well, you know what? Hi Kelly, I'm glad Tony has a friend. Good job. Kelly, good job. Hey, but you know what? Another quick thing is that we also have a state-of-the-art facility that we just built. We'll have a whole center in case someone installs things like that and someone wants to drive. If anyone would like to drive there, they can come and every time someone wants to come, I buy our building and talk technology with us.

Please come, yeah, and again you're at a lot of events, so they're at Royal Grande if you don't know. um that's the pismo area and it's actually just a few hours north of here it's two or so yeah I'm not sure so if you know where we are it's not much further it's a good drive , you drive along the coast. of the times, yeah, come see us, come, come drive on Facebook and how long until you're in the same state completely in the next three weeks, so give them a month, give us a month, but yeah, our facilities They are amazing, yes they are.

I mean, it's state of the art. I built it. The entire complex is us. We have a robust building. I have a fabulous store. I have to collect a store or a museum for all of ours. cars and I have tacos and coffee yeah, yeah, that's good, I know I'll be right now. Under what circumstances do we need an amateur radio license? you go to a ham radio store, a lot of people buy ham radios and you need a light ham radio license to operate it because it's in a different frequency range, yes it's in a little bit different frequency range in uhf and vhf, so the ham radio channels , if you look them up online they will show you the dedicated channels that are for that and if you buy a ham radio like we sell ham radios we have an abm radio and if you operate that radio you need to have a ham radio license.

Okay, Brigitta Hopkins. I have a rm60 in my jeep. Do you sell replacement mounting screws? One of the screws on my radio and one of the mounting bracket bolts fell off and now my radio is beeping. Yeah, that has to be a common question because I know that's happening, so what would I do with this? I would call and talk to Anna, so in our tech department, Anna is amazing, just tell her you talked to us in the tech talk with Tony. Yes, you are talking about technology and she would be more than happy to put a bag with the four screws and mail them to you.

Excellent there is customer service which I like and also added is there a way to brighten the The screen during certain lighting conditions is very difficult to read so in programming you can change some of the functions of the screen. I know with that particular radio some of these are correct. Yes, sometimes with this radio you know what we cover a lot. of the screen quality in many of our new products, it's okay because we keep learning because what would happen is thatif you didn't have the right angle on your visual cue, if you look at it straight on, you can see it.

Okay, but if you have that many degrees of difference, everything gets a little more difficult, so I'm with you and you know maybe at some point, if you take a look at some of our new products, maybe you can change that radio and upgrade it . to one of the new products or see, I would love to say yes on that front screen, but it depends on the angle you look at it, so what you could try to do depends on where you have it mounted, if you could tilt it. Continue a little further to see if that helps you see the optical view of that screen, yes, and many times it gets very dusty, make sure you clean it and keep it clean, yes, that's the problem, yes, yes, vb tom , where is a good place? to mount the antenna on a soft top jeep oh man we were talking about this before we were we were talking about this before um oh man so proper placement of an antenna okay that's where it all starts okay center of a roof metal, what does the jeep have a metal roof, well, no that one, it doesn't have a soft roof, okay, so it's like the center of the metal roof is the optimal place for an antenna on a jeep, okay, but you don't have that yeah okay so we did a little uh of the driver. side and passenger side fender mount so it's on our website so you can see the sweet spot is here so it's right there it's right in front of your regular am fm radio antenna it's the On the contrary, it is technically the best.

No, because the best place is in the center of the metal roof, but jeeps are difficult now when you're in a convoy. The location of the antenna works very well, so when you go out in a jeep you don't go that far, it works very well, which we talked about before. We have a metal plate that you could put a magnetic holder on in the center of the wrong part or something like that. Yes, the hard drive you already know, so when you have a soft top and you take it off, the problem is. this you don't want to put a hole through your soft top you don't want to do that um I would say the fender bracket is the new one the right side on the eight pillar bracket that we have I would take a look at that and see what you think that some people mount them outside the tire, but that also has its limitations and I was talking to you earlier about when you put them on the tire mount, now you have to run the cable through the tailgate and it's always moving and bending the wire.

Antenna cables aren't made to move, bend, or bang against a door all the time, they will eventually break, so that's why that eight dollar bracket works well because you can walk through it. the body and vein them and then you just flex it a bunch of times and then you don't flex it, but it's hard, we're trying to find the best system. I even told you before about the device, yeah, so, um, The main thing every time I asked him, well, what's going on here? What's happening here? It's all about getting the door hit, or we're flexing it a million times, so you know, bending that wire because the center isn't solid.

So the moment you break it, voila, you know what? We have a couple different cables because we have some that we're trying to make that are stranded cables that are more flexible than others, but they're not made to break or bend. in a door all the time, so the problem we have is that your product will work for a while, but at some point it will break, then it won't work and won't turn on the radio until you leave. to your event with your friends and you're out wandering around and it's not working and then you're mad at me because my radio isn't working and I'm trying, I'm trying really hard and you know what I do?

I would love to get feedback from Jeep owners, how do we build the best product or source the best? Install a router cable into it. I have three jeeps from a lj to jk and uh my jl yeah so I have them all but I'm still trying to figure it out and you have a variety of covers. I'd love to get customer feedback on this. I would love for you to call my tech team and give us ideas, and we would even help you prototype and come up with ideas, send them to you and let you try them out and tell us what you think, well there you go, we just got a plasma table, we have a laser, so we can do a lot of things now.

The only thing that matters to me in getting this is that we are not going to produce things, but we are going to make prototypes so be careful because there are 20,000 people who are going to call your office now as long as they do not want the same support that molds them yes exactly but you know how funny it is Now we have a system that records every call and we do that because what we also do is how many times people give us an idea or have a question or we're answering things so now we can start to evaluate if it's right and get something. more standardized, yes, but that's why going to events, I love when I can go to an event, a fun event where I can talk to people, because I love it.

I come here and I'm almost looking around and I look at your jeep. so I say, wait a minute, that's wrong, that's wrong, oh wait, hey Tony, those two extra antennas that you wanted to save us, no, don't do that, that's fine, but you know what I learned so much from talking to people that , uh, that's what I'm not a race? Yeah, I've raced a lot of cars before and done my thing on motorcycles and jet skis and everything else, and man, I love what I do and I get to talk to people who are using products. and use any type of products and I love that network and talking to people so if you see me at an event come up and say hi yeah okay I love talking to my clients what else do you have Greg Mina, for those who do jeep sponsored jamborees? and now gmrs is required, what do you recommend they buy?

This usually involves three to five events a year, primarily on the East Coast. Alright, our gmr2 is our handheld. It is a completely new product for us. It is absolutely excellent radio. It is perfect for all jeeps. jamborees I'm playing and everything else if you want something mounted on the jeep we have two options we have the gmr 25 which is a 25 watt waterproof radio it's also portable it's not a mobile that mounts inside the jeep and then we have a gmr 45, no It is a waterproof radio, but it is a high power GMRS. It's one of the most powerful gmrs radios on the market so we have those three options for you and the waterproof one is good for someone who doesn't. having a top on your jeep is that kind of oh, absolutely yes, and we have a jk mount for that, so it goes up above uh, yes, for anyone who doesn't know a place or something up there that's really cool.

There are also many people who don't know that they are also Motorola distributors. I have been a Motorola dealer for a long time and we also sell Motorola GMR radios. Many of them are very low power due to all the restrictions, like our new one. spokes, we designed this around the latest regulations so we can maximize everything. Many radios were not designed with our old tools and old things that have been around for a long time were not designed with all new specifications, so I have done everything I can to maximize the latest in FCC rules and regulations, so that the gmrs are much smaller than this one.

No, I have one that has the same mounting size as that particular radio. Okay, it's just as good as the 25, the slightly smaller 25 is the 45. The watt is the same size as traditional radar, okay, yeah, whatever you get into. The funny thing is that you look at the components on a 25 watt, um, 50 or 110 watt, the same components, okay, it's the same toilet, it's a heat sink, so the aluminum. body to dissipate heat from the amplifier because that giant chaser if you get into the frequent if you get into the components that are in that radio it's about the same as a 20 mile long radio it's pretty fun all the platforms are exactly the same that it's interesting so that heavy brick is all aluminum heat sink you know what car amplifier you know when they show these giant car amplifiers those big aluminum fins and all that's on it is just a little circuit board okay just It's dissipating the heat from the amplifiers, eh, it's okay, dad.

What else do you have, viewer, Rick Harrington? They are tough radios made here in the USA or in China. Do you have supply chain issues that will increase costs? If so, when do you see the supply chain improving in four to eight months? the price goes down at that time, so with all the price increases that have occurred with everything in materials and everything else, we have not had any price increases and we do not plan to have any price increases, the thing is that this is We do everything we can to have the lowest possible price or lower prices if I meet production goals and lower prices.

I've had that basic concept for 30 years and it's sometimes been successful for me when I move up the manufacturing levels I'm producing at. numbers so high my production costs go down so I lower prices so I don't foresee any cost increases now made in the USA I would love to manufacture in the USA we pretty much can't, I don't know of any manufacturers of radio that is made in the USA. I don't know if a TV manufacturer made these or electronic parts that made you say that it is becoming very scarce and it is difficult with the rules, regulations, manufacturing and soldering that you can use and everything the rest on the circuit boards, it's really difficult. a US based company we are a USB, a lot of USB people, we are a US based company, we design and build, we design all of our products, okay, people don't know that I designed all of our intercoms , all our cables.

I designed our specialized k building. I have an individually shielded twisted pair. In that cable, it is a special cable for intercoms. I designed it personally and revolutionized headphones. By fitting the 510 universal connector, it is now made in China. Yes, somewhere in my main factory. My intercom factory is in Seoul, Korea, that's where we make our headsets, our intercoms, the cables that we use, we outsource to another manufacturer in China for our radios, we make the tooling, we do all the 100 design on our radios, like This radio is 100. Designed by us and that's what we do.

Yes. Made in China. I would love to do it in the United States. Are you seeing a lot of production delays because of everything that's going on or are you okay, so we're doing really well with inventory? So when all this started what happened was I saw a need in Japan for most of the components to build radios so kenwood motorola us icom we mostly use the same components so they are all the same components and a lot of our radios, so it's not that one radio is better than the other and everything else, a lot of the radios we use, we share the same components in Japan, there is a main factory that makes our components a year ago, there was a fire in the factory, so Just before Covet started there was a fire in the factory and I said, you know what components are going to be in short supply, so we bought everything we could and everything we could in the radio, so I have Enough radios to build them for years. enough components for a long time when it comes to components this is where the FCC comes in, for example if almost a component is no longer available from a factory that's fine and I want to put a new component in a new part number.

It can do the exact same job, but it is a different model number. It has to have a class 2 change so we have to send it to the FCC and get a class 2 change so every time we change something on the radio we will get a class 2. changing is a process you just have to go through , so one thing is that I bought enough components that I wouldn't have to change my product for a while. Now other radio manufacturers are having a hard time getting components because I bought most of them, so here's the thing right now, I don't foresee any supply chain issues with the products over the next two years.

Now, metal products, we've had some issues, like the antenna mounts and some antenna mounts or the radio mounts themselves, we have a company here in the United States in California, uh, that a lot of people use to cut and bend with laser and things like that, we design all of our products, we send the files, like they have drawings and the guys design all your things and you weld them all together and um and what we do are those products that we do a lot of things in the United States so we sell many products made by us if we can we do and but We are having some supply issues because metal is getting scarce and to be honest our volume is so high right now our business has increased so much we are doing everything we can to have everything in stock, we very rarely delay orders or if we are behind, there is only a short time until more arrive and we can complete and you have manyoptions, you know, even for antenna mounts, so you could say yeah, you know you wanted that one, but we have this one or the right one.

We generally have something, something, yes, and I want to reiterate something. Greg said it's very important to us. We do not intend to increase our prices. We work very hard to try to maintain our prices or lower them and manufacture our products. more accessible to everyone, that's a big focus of what we do, you know, the interesting thing is my dad told me, uh, he taught me a basic concept years ago and he said, can you replace a customer or replace a product? ? Well, you can never replace a customer. We want to make sure that we take care of our customers, we give them good value, we give them good support, we care about the customer and you know what the thing is, if I can offer something better, hey, you know what it probably is.

I'm going to increase my production levels, so I mean what you know: many companies focus on the margin. I focus on the volume margin. I look at the whole package. I think to myself. Well, do you know what happens if I reduce the margin? I bet you I could double the production, okay, and I look at it at the consumer, you get that economy of scale, yeah, yeah, it's funny. When I learned this concept, I was in the aviation business, the second largest manufacturer of aviation headsets in the world. We're big in aviation so people don't know that we have the number one selling headset on Amazon that we sell, I mean millions of dollars worth of aviation headsets, it's crazy, but years ago I had two models so I had this 400. 800 so what I did was they were almost the same models but with a couple of different features.

I combined them and made the 454 and lowered the price and everyone said what are you doing. I lowered the price and it was fun depending on the production. it took off because I was able to offer that better value and we had all the same features, it was just a couple of dollars more than the 400 but a lot less than the 800 and it took off and I think this concept works, uh, Brigitta Hopkins. you offer an exchange option. I may have to look at a newer radio. What do you have that is comparable to the rm-60?

We do not have an exchange option. However, we have talked a lot and if that is something that people are interested in. We would really love to entertain that and give people a chance to upgrade to the newer stuff that we talk about all the time, yeah, yeah, give us a call and talk to my team, uh, in the sales format, talk to Randy. he's one of my best guys, tell them what you've got, tell them what you're doing with him, maybe we can help point you in the right direction for what you're doing because you don't know exactly what to do when it comes to the chase game. trucks.

Jeep, you know what else you're doing, but I'd say call Randy and talk to him. I mean some of the radios we have are 12 years old and still working fine, maybe they need a newer antenna, well that's the thing is that's what's wrong with your system today maybe we can help you fix it or maybe a mute setting is too high or anything else a filter or whatever is right, yeah maybe we can help you with just a couple of parts that fix what you have now, sure you'll call back, yes ok George Bood can you connect a CB and the heavy duty radio antenna together or will that cause interference?

You know what you can't, because then, if I do it. I'm understanding the question: you want to use one antenna for both. I think he was saying, could they be set up close to each other? You really shouldn't, I would put them away from each other if you're going to do it on opposite sides of the vehicle, opposite sides of the vehicle or I would say we talk about our mount on the A-pillar, on our antenna, put your CB on the back . Okay, you know something like that far away from each other, you know, a lot of people ask us if I can use an antenna.

Okay, you can't because their tuning is so radically different that it just won't work. Our viewer, John Struvino. You have an amateur license can I have a radio with commercial and amateur frequency bands? So you have an amateur radio license that allows you to use it, but it depends on what amateur radio license if you have a technician license, I think on the technician license. you can, you can transmit on some of the commercial bands, but really on the commercial band frequencies you need to have a commercial band license, so an amateur license just doesn't cut it.

A basic amateur license doesn't allow you to stream as much as it does. to broadcast on the amateur radio channels rick carrington says thank you very much for the excellent answers president rugoso stroll you know, the thing is that we are always a call away i love it when people ask us questions because they also tell us that they hear the questions that they people do because it helps us tell our path and our directions, you know the same thing, yes, there is one, one person had a question, there are ten more who had the same question, I didn't ask, yes, of course, so you know , okay, that's how it is. something with our company we have people waiting to pick up a phone we want you to call like now there are a lot of companies that are like yeah you get the voicemail you know just use the website you know what you know I always resisted pressing one for this, two for that, blah blah blah blah, me too, I finally put three keys just because we have so many employees.

I want to have a shortcut for sales marketing or technology, so when you call, those are the three options you have. and then you get a black person and as soon as you press it you go straight to a live person. I have 42 44 people. Now I lose count, it's okay, and we're always there to answer the phone. That's fine, or if you leave a voicemail, you will receive a call. I even have people who work on the weekends, so I have people set up so that if they want to work from home on the weekends, they can work from home and answer the phone calls that we make. everything possible for customer service it's good to know ryan dunn what is the bluetooth system that

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and jordan use in their race cars for when the co-driver is out of the car so the co-driver can talk to the driver when it's not plugged in That's a good question, good, good question, the wireless copilot and just so you know, we are in a major revamp of those systems, so there will be a lot of new technologies coming because Qualcomm, who manufactures our chips for us, we would work directly with the qualcomm engineers are the manufacturer of the bluetooth chip, in fact all the bluetooth chips you have to get you have to pay them for the bluetooth license, so it's really interesting, we have learned a lot about bluetooth and that system works and works. now, but the new technology is coming, I can't wait, well I know they pulled it out of my terramoto and said let's get you a new game, whatever it is, so what do you tell people and how much does it cost? and what it does now is it allows you to have a wireless co-driver because ultra4 and what you do is very unique, okay, you have a driver code that comes out of the race car, I mean, in low normally we have a floor. low tire we get something in class 11 we're alone it's okay, it's okay, so and it's not loud, it's not loud, I don't have a hundred people behind me rushing up, yeah, yeah, so I'm the last person in the By Of course, something like that, but the thing is we get out of the car, we change a tire or we both get out of the car now, in your kind of situation, you're driving, your co-driver has to get out. the winch guides you what you are doing communication is essential so we do two things we do the bluetooth wireless setup we also do a very easy setup which is a two way radio so we have a small two way radio that we will put one of our blue radios, we have a short cable that goes to the helmet, so you get out of the car, you unplug it, you plug it into your system and that way they're on because a lot of times you're giving instructions and that's a lot less expensive, yeah, that's much less expensive because the bluetooth stuff was 650 something like that yeah to be honest with you I'm not happy with that price well price wise but the feature is awesome no feature is awesome but I'm working directly with Qualcomm, how can we?

I want to produce that product at a lower price because I want it to be affordable to put on every race car, so I'm working on that right now to improve. We have big improvements coming. And when you talked earlier about a customer mentioning price increases, this is an area where I'm looking to reduce cost because I think I can increase production levels and offer a product that can reach more people and that's going to go down. the cost, yes, and I can tell you from personal experience that using that bluetooth is priceless, oh yeah, when you need it because you can't see the co-pilot and the hand signals don't work, so having it and it's like you're sitting down. the car is awesome so yeah the cool thing about racing teams is we can develop these cool products that carry over to recreation yeah so now you know you have a helmet on but you have headphones on but you want to Let your friend jump. outside and hey, look at me, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want you to know, so it works the same way.

Now you don't have a helmet, but you do have headphones, but it's the same type of device. Same thing, of course, that's cool, that's cool, I think Gunner was using a little radio this year, yeah, but we used the Bluetooth unit on the utv, so the radio, um, I'll tell you guys the interesting thing about that is, they break and you're way down in the canyon, you know the co-pilot can walk somewhere with this and get out of the team, so your bluetooth will always have limitations, okay, it will always have distance limitations, so um, some of the things that some people were doing, I saw some integrated that they were putting in bluetooth and helmets that we never do and we always make a box on the outside of the helmet because I saw some that people were putting in polymer batteries of lithium right next door.

You and I worry about the dangers of batteries and things like that, we don't modify helmets, so I won't do it because it's a big responsibility and structural strength of the helmets and you're in a race car, you need to be protected, yeah. and then we do things outside, but bluetooth has its limitations, you're in canyons, you're on rocks, you might have your co-pilots right on the other side of that rock and you can't talk to them. so we're working on ways to get more distance, yes, your portable radios, I always recommended a laptop in the car, yes, just because it's if you see that equipment that's upside down and its antennas are broken when your car is at the upside down and your antenna is on the ground, it's not going to transmit anything, funny story.

A friend of mine used to race a 16 car in the desert, he rode in all the races, but it was one of those, so I had the pre-programmed, we're flipped, so I put an antenna with a b switch and I put an antenna on the bottom of the car so that when it was upside down he could change the other antenna and call his team, which is a funny and true story. I did that. 25 years ago, oh my gosh, that's so funny, that's funny, what do you have? Joe Hank. I have a VHF rm 60. Is there any reason to switch to uhv? and what is the most common channel that everyone uses on VHF radios.

So for example, there's a use for changing the uhf well, um, if the group that you're riding with or riding with is uhf, yeah, you're going to want to change it because they're two totally different platforms, so if you group is currently using vhf keep it on the channels our stock list that we put there if you visit our website those are channels that we use very frequently for us we have the resistant channel that we currently use if we are traveling you can visit them. the rough one and he listens to us talk or talk to us, yeah, so I think the most common one is the weatherman, like yeah, I listen to everyone, you know, the best channel to be on is the one that no one else is on, but yeah, yeah, I mean, 151 625 is a point frequency, uh, it's one of the channels assigned by the FCC, and that's a very used channel, but I would say check our stock list and you'll find out what channel it is. the best first, so there is not one that I could say is the best, but the only thing is that no matter what channels you have, your antenna is tuned, so antenna tuning is really important, for what we always tune in the center, like our frequency package out of the box, that way it's well tuned. for the middle, but it will go in both directions, that's fine, but it's not one hundred percent on the bottom and one hundred percent on the top, so if you find that I use this channel all the time, I recommend that you tune your antenna . for that channel, the bottom, so you mentioned the weatherman is like 151, yeah, and I know a lot of our channels are way up 153 154.

Is it the bottom 151 or is there something lower? No, well, 151 you know a lot of peoplewhich I do not recommend. go lower than that some people do and then you could go up to 155 156 you could go much higher with that so that's why I say once you hook up your VHF radio once you find hey this is what am. Using all the time to tune your antenna, we sell all the equipment for you to tune your antenna. If you come see us we can teach you how to tune antennas or tune them for you, but definitely if you want maximum performance. on your antenna, do you have any videos on youtube or anything on how to tune?

No, we have a swr, yeah, I have a swr video there, okay, how to do it, so there you go, what else do you have? Well, we have. I have more questions than we have time for today, but um uh, Scott Durkin is curious if there is a big performance difference between the small compact antenna and the long antennas, so we just launched a stealth antenna, so an antenna a little covered, like how small like you. Let's go to three inches, it's just this size, it's very very short, it's about the height of this radial body, so we did that because a lot of people in glamas take their car, put it on the toy hauler and don't do it. .

I didn't take away their intention and uh danny stevens uh he has an x3 one of our customers has a really cool car we did some custom stuff on him I gave him that antenna and I said here try this he's like oh my gosh the best thing in the world , I will never hit him on the top of the toy hauler and I asked him, I said, give me your honest opinion, okay, try it, tell me the distance because it's very hard to tell. I hear claims of 36 mile portable radios, that's not true. realistic, okay, it's not realistic all these claims these companies make that they go long distances, so I said listen, try it and tell me what you think, okay, because you know we can go, he's going to say 10 miles with your regular antenna o o 8 miles, what's this little chubby guy doing?

So he says, you know, when we drive from car to car, he's in glamis, he's cool, I'm not going to talk about the glamosto store with the glamis flats, he says, I'm not going to do it. he talks so far away with the stubby antenna but in the convoy all together you're two miles away, man, it worked fantastic, I love it, it's perfect for you, okay? So that screw screws in just like the biggest intensity, yes it works so you can like I said there is a perfect place for your antenna in the middle of a metal roof, we have a hat core or antenna, our half antenna wave is perfectly tuned, fire radios, that's what we recommend, but there are also other options for people you know, a guy who's in his jeep.

His garage every night doesn't want to hit his antenna if you're not transmitting that far get what works for you. I know it when I get my jeep in and I got that thing banged up. I wonder what I just did right and The thing is this depends on where you mount it okay if you're talking about our A pillar mount that we talked about earlier for a jeep and now this thing is buried the way I would . In order not to put that stubby little antenna on, you need to raise the top of that antenna as high as you can, so I wouldn't recommend that, so yes, it will have some performance at close range, but it will hurt, that's just the antennas. difficult and now if you had the center of a metal roof that you see on police cars, the highway patrol uses VHF, okay, so they have some of those stubby antennas, they have a giant metal roof that is a big flat of ground which actually makes the antenna work better, so those types of situations, hey, that antenna doesn't work too bad, right, we know again, fiberglass roof or soft top on our jeep, that's not flat of land, yeah, so what else do you have?

Well, we have a shout out to Greg from a couple of viewers. one of them is michael mcgarrity, you both probably know him. Great job Greg answering all the FCC questions that many on social media continually mislead people and tell false information. I also appreciate the clarification made from parties outside the US, excellent job. Thank you very much and thank you. You, Michael, and I'll tell you what you're talking about about a man that's fighting for our off-road community oh man, with friends at Oceania Dunes, I mean our dunes are important to us, it's right in our backyard, Pismo Dunes is right . where we are and the fight he is giving for our off-road community is incredible and the friends of Oceana Dunes are an incredible group of people.

I can't say enough about them. Yeah, Mike, sorry, I missed you in Calico. Yes, you two have several questions to answer offline. Okay, we can do it. We're out of time, actually 15 minutes have passed, I know that's all, it's going fast, whatever you want, we just didn't talk about it. I repeated it, I think it is one of the most important things. is that the new radio we have that we are talking about is the gmr ii and what we are really excited about is especially the jeep community. Do you know that the jamboree is moving to gmrs radios?

We see gmrs as the new cb radio so if you guys are interested check out the website give us a call if you want to talk about radios we are there they are more affordable they are priced lower than the um some of them are very similar in costs, uh, very similar in costs. uh, it's because they're a little bit different platforms, a lot of times when you're, say, in a jeep, you're putting in a radio search, you know, you're just putting in a two-way radio. I always recommend it in a jeep, put your mobile radio in the jeep and have a portable radio for your spotter.

Okay, do things like that. The best of us as a company. I invite everyone to call and ask questions. I have a very trained staff. Okay, my sales people. They are very knowledgeable in the front, call them if you want to talk to a tech, talk to a tech in the back, all you have to do is push, let's see, one for sales, two for marketing and three for tech, I think Jack It's the number. three, so give us a call and ask us questions. We love when our clients call us because they teach us our instructions and help our clients.

This should sound familiar because I've said the exact same thing. I'm going to go to my website, the phone number is right on the top right, it's here, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome, thank you, but you know the same way, it's been fun coming here today . I called Tony not long ago and said, "Hey, this is my concept I want to come and work on some cars and I want to train some new technicians I want to see real world experience on different vehicles and he said great, come on, I didn't even know about the tech talk, okay, I knew that.

I don't even know about the tech talk that they said, well, let's put this together, I'm cool, let's talk to people and answer questions, so thank you all for having a format, uh, yeah, to go out and talk about things, and they'll be. able to come back, you know this will be saved and you can go ahead and answer more questions I'm sure our guy is already on this, yeah, that's great, yeah, he's. okay thank you all for joining us um we'll be back again Thursday it was really a pleasure to have you here today and thank you rockstar for finishing them up I just want to make sure you have the right branding there so thanks again see you on Thursday. good night.