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Joe Biden on Ukraine Transcript, Impeachment & Defeating Trump

Mar 23, 2024
Jimmy: IT IS AN HONOR AND A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE. IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. Jimmy: WHAT'S NEW? SOMETHING GOING ON? NOT MUCH. RUDY AND DONALD, I DON'T KNOW. Jimmy: YOU'VE BEEN IN POLITICS FOR A LONG TIME. HOW DOES THIS RANK ON THE OUTLAND ISHISH SCALE FOR YOU IN THE LAST 48 HOURS, WATCHING THIS TRANSPAIR? 18 OF 10. Jimmy: MM-HM. NO, THIS IS A BIT STRANGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S RUDY GIULIANI IS A GREAT WITNESS CHARACTER THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS. Jimmy: MM-HM. YEAH. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE HE WAS MAYOR OF NEW YORK AT ONE TIME AND SEEMED TO BE DOING A GOOD JOB.
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He is LIKE HIS BODY HAS BEEN TAKEN BY ANOTHER BEING. I DIDN'T KNOW THE PRESIDENT COULD DO THAT. Jimmy: MAYBE IT'S MORE POWERFUL THAN WE REALIZE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU AND PRESIDENT OBAMA LEFT THE DOOR TO THE WHITE HOUSE OPEN AND A BEAR CAME IN. IT IS, SHE IS CRAZY. HAVE YOU HEARD FROM PRESIDENT OBAMA THIS WEEK? NO, I HAVE NOT. Jimmy: YOU HAVE NOT DONE IT. I DON'T HAVE IT. Jimmy: YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS KIND OF THINGS? NO, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS KIND OF THINGS. Jimmy: IS THERE ANY ELEMENT OF GOSSIP IN THIS KIND OF THING OR IS IT JUST A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
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LOOK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET AWAY FROM THAT, THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME AND MY FAMILY. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE LEGITIMATE JOURNALIST IN THE WORLD WHO GIVES CREDIBILITY TO THIS. THEY HAVE DISASSEMBLED EVERYTHING I HAD TO SAY SINCE GIULIANI STARTED THIS A WHILE AGO. WHAT I DO WORRY ABOUT, I DO WORRY ABOUT ALL THE OTHER FAMILIES THAT CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THIS PRESIDENT AND HIS CONSTANT DETOURS TOWARDS, LOOK, WE WANT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION, WE HAVE 70 SURVEYS IN A ROW SHOWING HIM YOU ARE HITTING AND SUDDENLY CATCHES YOUR ATTENTION.
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I THINK THAT'S WHY I AM THE OBJECT OF YOUR ATTENTION. BUT LOOK, THERE'S A LOT MORE AT STAKE THAN WHETHER HE'S ACTING SO STRANGE OR NOT. THE IDEA OF SOMEONE CALLING A HEAD OF A FOREIGN STATE, AHEAD OF TIME, WITHHELD MEANINGFUL AID WHEN HE NEEDS IT SO MUCH TO STOP RUSSIAN SEPARATISTS IN UKRAINE FROM TAKING UKRAINE, AND THEN ASK, BASICALLY, CAN YOU COOPERATE WITH RUDY? GIULIANI IS COMING AND WHAT I LEARNED, WE LEARNED, WE ALL LEARNED RECENTLY IS THAT THE 2,000 WORD STATEMENT RELEASED TALKS ABOUT INVOLVEMENT OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IN THIS. I mean, it's such a blatant abuse of power that I just don't think it can stand.
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Jimmy: YES, IT IS, WELL, DO YOU THINK IT'S AN IMMACULATE CRIME? BASED ON THE MATERIAL THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGED TODAY, I FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO AVOID THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS IS AN IMPACTABLE CRIME AND A VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL RESPONSIBILITY. BUT LOOK, THAT AE, I TRUST IN THE ABILITY OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE TO DEAL WITH THIS. MY JOB IS SIMPLY TO GO OUT AND BEAT THEM. AND SO I, WHAT I CAN'T LET HAPPEN, I CAN'T LET THIS DISTRACT ME IN A WAY THAT TAKES ME AWAY FROM THE ISSUES THAT REALLY, THE REASONS WHY I'M RUNNING, THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL REASON ABOUT THE FUND, OUR VALUES.
HE DOESN'T WANT US TO PAY ATTENTION TO HEALTH CARE, WHICH YOU AND I KNOW A LOT ABOUT, OR TO DO ANYTHING TO TREAT THE ENVIRONMENT, OR TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE DEVELOPED GUN ABUSE ON OUR STREETS. I WANT TO SAY MANY THINGS. And much less the international problems we have. I mean, this guy hugs Kim Jong Un, talks about him believing in Putin over his intelligence community, I mean, the damage that's being done is monumental. Jimmy: HOW MUCH OF YOUR DESIRE TO PRESENT YOURSELF IS RELATED TO DONALD TRUMP BEING PRESIDENT? In other words, if someone, if a decent man like JEB Bush had won the Republican nomination, would he be motivated to run?
I guess the honest answer is NO. LOOK, I HAD NOT PLANNED TO RUN AGAIN. WHEN, WHEN MY SON DIED, I MADE MYSELF PROMISE THAT I WOULD NOT TELL ANYONE HOW SERIOUS THE CIRCUMSTANCE WAS. So my staff still thought we had a campaign waiting. AND WHEN I CAME OUT TO TELL THE PRESIDENT THAT I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO RUN AFTER BEAU PASSED, I, HE SAID TO ME: GO DOWN TO THE WHITE HOUSE, TO THE OVAL, WE'LL GO OUT TO THE ROSE GARDEN, YOU ANNOUNCE A MONTH. AND I SAID THE MOMENT WHEN I CAME OUT, I KNEW THEY WOULD ASK ME QUESTIONS IF I HAD ANY REGRETS.
I HAD TAKEN THE SHOT AT THE CANCER MOON AND WE HAD MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS, BUT EVEN THEN, I HAD NOT PLANNING TO RUN, UNTIL I SAW THOSE PEOPLE, IT'S NOT A JOKE, JIMMY. WHEN I SAW THOSE PEOPLE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, LEAVING THE FIELDS, CARRYING TORCHES. CONTORTED FACES, WITH BULGING VEINS, SCREAMING THE SAME ANTI-SEMITE BILE THAT WAS SCREAMED IN THE STREETS OF NUREMBERG AND BERLIN IN THE 1930S, ACCOMPANIED BY THE KU KLUX KLAN AND WHEN A WOMAN WAS KILLED AND THE PRESIDENT MUST ANSWER, AND HE SAID THERE WAS VERY GOOD PEOPLE IN BOTH GROUPS. NO PRESIDENT HAS SAID ANYTHING LIKE THIS, THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF ANDREW JACKSON BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR.
THAT'S WHEN I DECIDED, HOW CAN I, I'VE SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE DOING THIS, HOW CAN I STAY SILENT? BECAUSE I WAS RAISED BY A DAD WHO TAUGHT ME SILENCE IS COMPLICE. THIS IS THE WAY HE HAS TRIED TO DIVIDE THIS COUNTRY AND PIT THE PEOPLE AGAINST EACH OTHER. AND SINCE IT'S NOT DONE WITH JUST CHARLOTTESVILLE, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PASSAGE RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, A YOUNG MAN WHO SAYS I SHOT ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE THERE'S A HISPANIC INVASION. WELL THE PRESIDENT WAS ONLY WEEKS, AND THE 2018 FREE YEAR CAMPAIGN KEPT SHOWING THAT VIDEO OF PEOPLE MARCHING, WE ARE BEING INVATED BY LATINOS AND MEXICANS ARE RAPISTS, AND THIS DIVISION IN OUR COUNTRY IS SO DEVASTATING, SO DEVASTATING FOR SO MANY PEOPLE, AND IT'S RUINING OUR STANCE IN THE WORLD, IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO LOOK, WE CAN PROBABLY STAND FOR FOUR YEARS IF YOU DON'T GET US INTO A WAR NEXT YEAR, AND I'M NOT BEING A WISE GUY.
I AM NOT BEING FREE IN SAYING THAT. BUT EIGHT YEARS OF DONALD TRUMP WILL FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THIS NATION IN MY OPINION. AND I CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN. Jimmy: WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHT, BECAUSE I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS YOU BELIEVE STRONGLY IS THAT WE CAN GET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS CAN WORK TOGETHER? YOU HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO ARE REPUBLICANS. In fact, Lindsey Graham said today that she considers you one of her very good friends and then she said, you know, and then she put something nasty on it.
WHY AREN'T MORE REPUBLICANS STAND UP AND SAY HEY, SO WE CAN'T GO ON WITH THIS ANYMORE? WELL LOOK, FIRST OF ALL I DON'T KNOW WITH ANY DEGREE OF CERTAINTY, BUT I DO HAVE A KNOW THAT MOST OF THE TIME, WHEN A REPUBLICAN IS BEATEN IN A STATE THAT IS A PURPLE OR RED STATE, IT MEANS REPUBLICAN OR REPUBLICAN STATE , THEY ARE HIT BY THE RIGHT. THEY ARE NOT WON IN A GENERAL ELECTION, THEY ARE WON IN A PRIMARY. AND DONALD TRUMP HAS A KIND OF, HE HAS THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WHATEVER, 34% OF THE PUBLIC OR 38, I DON'T KNOW, HE HAS CONTROL OF THAT PART OF THE PARTY.
And so if you confront him, everyone knows how vindictive he is and how he will come after you. SO THERE IS GREAT CONCERN. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN, WHEN THEY WERE STOPING, BEFORE TRUMP WAS ELECTED. THEY WERE HOLDING THE APPOINTMENT OF THE PROPOSED PRESIDENT TO THE SUPREME COURT. Jimmy: MERRICK GURNALDA. A GOOD MAN, I CALLED 12 REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND SAID THAT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO DO, YOU'RE SETTING A HORRIBLE PRECEDENT. ALL BUT ONE RECOGNIZED HIM. BUT THEY SAID IF WE DO THIS, IF WE REQUEST A HEARING, THE KOCH BROTHERS WILL CONTRIBUTE $10 MILLION, $12 MILLION TO OUR CAMPAIGN, AND I WILL HAVE A RACE OR A PRIMARY.
IT HAS GOT DOUBLE WORSE SINCE TRUMP WAS ELECTED. I am of the opinion, look, our politics is broken, not the system. POLITICS IS BROKEN. AND HE HAS BECOME SO BAD, UGLY AND DIVIDING THAT I THINK WITH HIM GONE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW LIFE AND DO WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS SHOULD BE DONE. FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE END OF THE LAST QUARTER, WHICH IS VERY PERSONAL TO YOU AND ME, HEALTH CARE. I CARE A LOT ABOUT THAT. Jimmy: YES, YES. AND BY THE WAY I WANT TO THANK YOU, IT'S NOT A JOKE. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE WHAT YOU DID, FRIEND.
FUNDAMENTALLY, BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, YOU POINT OUT, PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH DIFFICULT TIMES. AT LEAST WE HAVE HAD THE BENEFITS, THE COVERAGE AND THE HELP. IMAGINE ALL THE PEOPLE, IF THE LIGHTS WERE ON, IF YOU ASKED EVERY PEOPLE WHO HAD A CHILD THEY LOST TO CANCER OR A SERIOUS ILLNESS OR A SERIOUS PROBLEM AND THEY HAD REAL, REAL CONCERNS ABOUT A FAMILY MEMBER WHO WAS IN EXTREMIS, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. Jimmy: TOO MANY. LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE THERE, JIMMY, WHO ARE DOING THIS, GETTING UP EVERY DAY, PUTTING ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE, WHAT YOU FACED WITH YOUR SON, WHAT I FACED WITH MY SON.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE HELP OF THOSE WHO ARE. THEY ARE HEROES. THEY GET UP EVERY DAY, AND I MADE A COMMITMENT, AND I MEAN IT. IF I AM ELECTED PRESIDENT, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT I WILL PROTECT YOUR FAMILY'S HEALTH CARE AS I WOULD PROTECT MY OWN, AS IF IT WERE MINE. BECAUSE IT'S PERSONAL, PERSONAL. Jimmy: VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IS HERE, WE'LL BE BACK IN A MOMENT. MISTER. VICE PRESIDENT, IF PRESIDENT OBAMA, AT SOME POINT DURING HIS PRESIDENCY, HAD PUT YOU IN CHARGE OF AN IMAGINARY THING CALLED THE SPACE FORCE, WOULD YOU HAVE ACCEPTED THAT?
IS THAT SOMETHING, A DUTY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AGREED TO ASSUME? THE GOOD NEWS WAS THAT I WORKED WITH A REALLY GOOD MAN. AND THE DEAL WE MADE, HE ASKED ME, WHEN HE ASKED ME TO JOIN, HE ASKED ME TO JOIN TINCKET, THE BEST DECISION I EVER MADE. One of the things that worked, Jimmy, was that we made a deal: we would always be direct with each other. WE HAD LUNCH EVERY DAY WHEN WE WERE IN THE COUNTRY AND WE WOULD BE COMPLETELY STRAIGHT WITH EACH OTHER. I asked him why he wanted me as vice president and he said I know the office will never intimidate you.
YOU WILL TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR MIND. WE HAD AN EXCELLENT RELATIONSHIP. WHEN HE GAVE ME AUTHORITY HE GAVE ME PRESIDENT ALE AIAL AUTH. WE AGREE ON 99% OF EVERYTHING. Jimmy: YOU'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE TOPIC YOU BRING? BELIEVE OR NOT, IT FLUCTUATES BETWEEN THE WEATHER AND WEAPONS. Jimmy: MM-HM. AND, YOU KNOW, THE GENERATION THAT IS MOST ANXIOUS TODAY FOR THEIR FUTURE IS PEOPLE BETWEEN 15 AND 21 YEARS OLD. BY WEAPONS. THEY ASK WHAT IS THE WORST, WHAT CONCERNS THEM THE MOST? THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT GOING TO SCHOOL AND GETTING SHOT.
Jimmy: YES, YES. AND -- Jimmy: AND ALSO THE IDEA THAT OUR PLANET IS -- AND SECONDLY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, VERY FRANKLY IN THE LONG TERM, IS THAT OUR PLANET IS IN REAL, REAL DIFFICULTY. WE SHOULD ACT AS IF, AS JOHN KERRY SAYS, WE WERE DECLARING WAR HERE. THIS HAS TO BE A WAR TO FACE CLIMATE CHANGE. IT'S THAT CONSEQUENTIAL. Jimmy: IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, OF WHICH YOU WERE AN IMPORTANT PART, DO YOU WISH YOU HAD DONE MORE AT THAT TIME? WELL, ACTUALLY, WE DID A LOT. WE INVEST MORE THAN $100 BILLION, $90 BILLION IN CLIMATE CHANGE. I SUPPORTED IN 1986, INTRODUCED THE FIRST CLIMATE CHANGE LAW THAT REQUIRED US TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH, AND CETERA.
Jimmy: WHAT DID YOU START THINKING ABOUT THAT IN 1986? I COULD SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN MY STATE. THE SPECIES WERE STARTING TO BE LOST. WE HAVE A LOT OF WETLANDS ALONG THE DELAWARE RIVER AND DOWN THE DELAWARE BAY, AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THEY WERE LEAVING, THEY WANTED TO BUILD REFINERIES, I ENDED UP BEING ABLE TO BLOCK THEM BY CHANGING THE ZONING AND WE ENDED UP WITH THE FIRST COASTAL ZONE LAW WHERE NOTHING WAS YOU CAN BUILD WITHIN A MILE OF THOSE WETLANDS, BUT BECAUSE I SAW FROM THE PEOPLE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE, THE MARINE BIOLOGISTS HOW MUCH EVERYTHING WAS CHANGING, THE POLLUTION OF THE WATERS.
LOOK AT WHAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS DONE. EVERY LEGISLATION OR BASIC RATIONAL CHANGE WE HAVE MADE FROM COFFEE STANDARDS, HOW MANY MILES A CAR CAN GO, NEEDS TO GO, ALL THE WAY FROM ALLOWING COAL MINES TO Dump SLUDGE INTO RIVERS TO DEALING WITH MERCURY, EVERY ONE THAT'S WHAT STAY AWAY FROM. Jimmy: NOT ONLY THAT, HE ACTED AGAINST. HE HAS RECOVERED THEM. HE ALLOWED THEM TO BE INSIDE, HE ALLOWED THE POLLUTRATORS TO CONTINUE. AND HE GOES TO THE G-7, HE DOES NOT SHOW UP AT THE CLIMATE MEETING. ENDS AT THE UN. HE DOESN'T WANT ANY PART OF THE WEATHER.
LOOK AT THAT, I WONDER IF THERE WAS EVER A PRESIDENT, THERE HAVE PROBABLY BEEN OTHER HEADS OF STATE IN OTHER COUNTRIES WHO HAVE ADDRESSED THE UN AND NOT A SYLLABLE WAS HEARD FROM ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE UNITED NATIONS. IN SUPPORT OF ANYTHING. ONLY SILENCE. Jimmy: YES. SILENCE. Jimmy: MAYBE YOU THINK YOU LIVE MOST OF THE TIME IN A SUNBED, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TO THE WEATHER. WELL, LOOK, THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO. LOOK, I AM BETTER POSITIONED TODAY THAN ANYTIME IN MY LIFE TO LEAD THE WORLD ON EVERYTHING, FROM CLIMATE TO CANCER, TO REBUILDING THE MIDDLE CLASS TO UNITE THE WORLD.
WE HAVE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES IN THE WORLD. WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE MORE RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES THAN THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED. WE ARE IN A POSITION IN WHICH OUR WORKERS ARE THREE TIMES MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN THOSE IN ASIA. WE LEAD BY POWER BUT BY THE POWER OF EXAMPLE. WE HAVE A LOT IN FAVOR OF US. IT'S TIME FOR US AS AMERICANS TO STOP FEELING LAMENTATION, LET'S RAISE OUR HEADS, THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN'T DO. I'M SERIOUS. THERE IS KNOWLEDGE BEYOND OUR CAPACITY, NOTHING ONCE WE PROPOSE IT.
Jimmy: MR. VICE PRESIDENT, ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN? I'M SAYING I WANT AMERICA TO BE THE ENVY OF THE WORLD AGAIN. Jimmy: THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. Jimmy: VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN! RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT

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