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It was really great for the support throughout the year. Thank you very much for those people. We have to resolve our position from the last debate because it was about whether Stephen Curry should win a title and a final ZMBP at the end of the year. so he will be in the top ten list in veterans and he said yes. He was against that, a real point of view, so if he wins the title with a file sandwich and then ends up scratching the door, I think he still needs two, three tough years. Maybe a record or two will be broken, maybe a title will be added, it has a chance, but after this season I think I would have a hard time taking anyone off this sick list, which is why Schott is currently working more.

In this range of eleven to 14 for me, I think 14 also suits him very, very well, it's really a great performance and as you say, we haven't seen the end yet, but now only after this year and especially with only one final. MVP, it's hard to defend him. Although he has really good cheese, of course, as in every episode, the popular Scott could win again today in both areas. Just join the discussion. Please enter your Instagram name so that. We can contact you when the random generator chooses. Here you can see last week's winner. Congratulations to this point and now move on to the history of history.

What if Bello or the Actros, you say Terry Crews is the more shameless story? Much more violent for the league and for him I say Avon Carmelo del If the tracks had been selected, everything would have been different now that you have the initial statement. Here is the guest. Okay, a fascinating topic, but for me it is absolute. You know, I'm from Rostock, yes, I'm still there, I mean, the biggest ones in the fall of 2003, certainly one of the biggest draft decisions of all time. Photo from the star community, while Janeway Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony are still available, what are you really brutally painful?

But and that's my point now, neither for the tracks nor for Melo, this decision has had consequences as dramatic as Derrick Rose's injury, listen to me, let's hear how long the crack lasts in 34 minutes, if after. It was the fastest, I wait and wait, now I'm trying. The tracks were still sensational champions against them in 2004. The Lakers almost managed to repeat in the seventh game against the Spurs in 2005. Chevron could not do anything about it, but still six years. consecutive in the conference finals, as I said, the title of the awards or the end of the four play-offs of defense, the images here of Ben Wallace, coach of Finance and Insurance Pope, on the Americans as Maybe a third title would be conceivable, but this a wrong decision was not the difference between the title and the draft lottery so the best still had a successful era a great honor cannot be denied what Mallow did in his career even though he was from Los Nuggets were considered 10 x 22 x yes mgs corner 40 mb for 2013 scoring champion one of the 75 greatest players of all time three-time Olympic gold two-time USM basketball mail first here has the ninth most points in history is god summary legendary first ballet hall of fame maybe there will even be a title for the farewell with the Lakers, who knows, we don't have to assume that now, but more realistically we declare that his career has not yet has ended either way, regardless of whether you remember a great fan career, one of the greatest scorer of all time and also here this draft this selection of the tracks and the fact that he ended up with the Nuggets did not destroy his career or change every complete champion as a rookie with a back we also forget that the guy has a sick resume like that and I don't want to say too much upfront, but I didn't have to tell you what happened with Migros, but I'll get to it right away.

You're already bubbling and set. better because I don't want to say that nothing happens in my career. I didn't say that of course, you just told me what a great player Maloja is and where he is everywhere, old cars and that in turn the track specifications wouldn't have changed much, he would probably have two more titles, but he has them. . He didn't take as long as the injury took the resource. I should briefly mention that key point. Well, now I can quote myself and say more. To this day he said recently in a podcast, to this day I think every day that the pending ones are them.

They actually wanted him, that he had an agreement with them and he only found out on the day of the meeting, Shortly before the draft they don't accept him, they accept him with a chip. That shows you how Kras tries naked again, why you like it so much. Merz himself said that his career was completely different on the slopes. I have also made it to the champion team. Maybe some things in the team have to change and I even read people arguing with me about whether they would have won the title in 24 if they had, Melo would have done it and so on, but who would have done it? if i had been there i would have had chauncey billups, ken wallace, richard hamilton, tayshaun prince, what was he and larry brown as a coach, what kind of organization was the real winning organization and was it a defensive oriented organization,

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Anthony would have one that can become a completely different type of player because he has all the skills to be a great defender, why did he never become one in his career?

Because he was drafted by the Nuggets and they told a 19-year-old kid, here are the keys to the franchise, do what you want, interested Not us, our team is garbage anyway and then he supports the decree, he played a season of much better rookie than LeBron, turned Strange Lake into a playoff team in the Western Conference, which is much harder than what we had to do save Brawn in the East with the Cavaliers and now I imagine this still young guy and in form he was not the Merlot later but the Melo of 18 and 19 years in a championship team under the direction of Larry Brown with defensive specialists.

What do you think he could have become of? I don't want it right now. I'm throwing the name calendar into the room because I don't think the level would have been possible for fans, but a defensively oriented Mallow who would have become Andy's super free player and can still use it openly, think about it, think about what men would have. Instead of throwing the Trek franchise at them and saying here are the keys, that's a big difference it can stand. Do you think he would have said something better? LeBron in this shameless rookie season and also in the one he played there, no, no, he had the opportunity to develop there, not that, I don't know, because I had the opportunities that were on the counter, but what is the aspiration for the championship . that team really plays basketball the team that is there gives a rookie 20 points, let him average and take 18

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per game.

I'm not saying that his development would have the same weight, I'm just saying that. It would have been better for him as a player because we agree that no later than the year 345 you would have the development of Mendes. We can't stop him anymore, he's one of the greatest scorers of all time and Annette also saw Larry Brown in At Some Point. Okay, we have to use this guy now when he's really safe or not, but in the years that followed and especially when the clues fell apart a little bit. If you had given a message because he had matured in this system for a few. years, that would have been very good for him, but well, first of all, it gets a little easier if you say "okay", talk to Larry Brown three times and you would have a big advantage in the sport and the game with change and therefore advertising costs when you participate and what do you do here you can get the beds I came to Cuba I did not say it but it would have become a defender in a trance and once they placed it there among the manufacturers but with shameless Pankower something That alone is enough for a letter but let's put it this way Yes, he still didn't develop badly in the mb, he didn't become a bad basketball player, let's say in Mainz cora is a scoring machine. okay let's say it always say defender let's say it would be a team player less well all three things are reserved with the track specifications 100 percent in the team there would be no super soldier just simulated once secured I used to be a champion through of symbols, so what did Mallow do in his career in Denver in six of seven years, he lost in the first round once in the conference finals, he lost against copies with Chelsea, by the way, he is left with an old Jones, the image He doesn't want the same with anything He's only been in the play-offs three times, twice in the first round in Rome, twice out and then again in the first round with OK and twice first by the journalists, the guy He survived the damn first round. twice in his entire career, if he were at the beginning of his career with the Pistons, he would have been a completely different type of winning team player.

It's a little easy for you. The guy is a calling machine, but he is not a winner and he is not and would never be the best player in a championship. I can't give you a spec, not even with the clues, okay. , before we talk about Melo all the time, so explain to me, then explain to me what Gary did big, yeah, if he doesn't get injured then I'm really excited to see what happens. What happened? So now Erik Roos was in? Deprived of the chance at an absolute superstar career after less than four years in the league.

Let's start for the first time. In 2008, the Chicago Bulls, of their local franchise, began perfectly towards a glorious Rookie of the Year history, already in their third season in the entire NBA. the first youngest mwp of all time at 22 years old after four seasons already three times All Star and then happened in the 2012 playoffs the Bulls for the second consecutive time the best team in the east with a very young team with a leader who he is 21 22 you play at home against the sixers prince 122 closed with twelve points game by air france put up 23 99 the thing is told through him we know the story the playoffs happened the season ran after this special and we know that everything

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It was never the same again after that And I needed an injury, there were more injuries, a lot of people came, you know, you can have vehicles too, but that was just the starting signal and Derrick Rose was about to take over the East of the league.

Not in the sense that he was better than LeBron, you can see it in the way he looks. He demanded free tobacco. This young team gave us one of the best playoff series of all time back in 2008, at the start of their run in 2009, I absolutely recommend it and if you haven't seen it you can watch it again and again 2009 Celtic Bulls I think twice in overtime once in double overtime once in zippel overtime extremely young team against defending champion boston jörg heinrich if golden board miller joakim noah and the actros epic series then the bull market left yes yes yes champion boston won in six games congratulations but the development continued as usual he said 2011 and 2012 best record in the 2011 eastern conference finals because then he lost to lebron james and the heat that can happen, but you were still at the beginning of this development you were a young team and what did the bottom do in 2011 at 22 years old in The playoffs he led his team to the conference finals with 27 points, 7.7 assists and 4.3 rebounds in 16 playoff games and That is an important point. 16 playoff games in this streak.2011, how many playoff games has the report played since his injury until today?

Which was a good question 22. It's a tragedy. The guy had a 16-game playoff streak in his MDP season and has only played in 22 playoff games to date, so almost ten. For years, games were played and a great career was stolen from him and why do we all react so emotionally? We were so impressed when he scored 50 points for the Timberwolves against Utah. He stood on the field and was violent. Many fans probably came too. tears that touched us all in some way, why not? Because we say that the euro zone is a single-cell elevated player who scored 50 points, Scott, that's very nice, no, because we all say that this guy, we all know what he coulddo, all of which.

Long before him, Lay and the guy took everything away from him and that's why it's so good that now he can put together a game like that again, those were the feelings, those were those, those were the emotions for him and for us. as fans and for you as fans and why is it like that? He never says today when he heads the ball in the court game and the chains can have Melo who still touches me or he never says when a motto sounds why I couldn't. I see someone in the day a completely different big impact okay that's the only thing I'll give you this emotional factor that's really true the big one crying and of course we all know how many years he went through this struggle but that's my first Actually, we're not even discussing here what if Migros in 2012, we're also discussing what if he hadn't been injured 190 times after that, each time to the other knee, an Achilles tendon, or a different Achilles heel.

Whatever he's had, unfortunately, the kid has been a work in progress since 2012. I really feel for him, but it's not just an injury and this playoff situation, of course, was the starting signal. . as you say, the other joints, bones and tendons don't tell if the FCL is torn. Now we can too, that came to me simply because of his play, because he just showed a style of play because, apart from Russell Westbrook, no one has ever done it. he survived without injury and that's simply not a style of play that can be played sustainably in the NGL, but now, getting on the real topic, you say he still had success in the eastern conference.

Honestly, I wonder who was the second best player on these teams. If carlos boozer joakim noah simply thinks that the eastern conference has been dominated by lebron james since 2011, just four years with the song and then at least three years with the Cavaliers, a team led by Derrick Rose would never have broken anything. He made it to the playoffs against Broken and then failed every time. We all remember that in 2013 he removed the greeting from the game. Even Luc Bronner, who defended MWP's point guard, was a machine back then and had a lot. best team, which means that Migros would not have won anything this year, we have to be honest and the most important question is what we call a champion team of recent years.

But it's been 30 years that something has broken with a point guard below 190. Spoilers, you can tell me it goes back to the bad boy in his prime with Thomas. He is the only small point guard around whom a championship team has been built, every other city is like that 190 and. We discussed it again in my debate when every best player on his team is allowed to do that as a camp, what aren't we going to do about it? We better watch the debate again so I can get started on that, okay? without having to put an end to this, Migros has known Stephen Curry for a long time.

He is not only a famous shooter of all time, but also the best Montreux shooter of all time, who empowers his team with counterattacks much better than those of the United States. Look at Staff Curry in his fourth career and look at the great or in the fourth career and then hold on to the fact that Derrick Rose helped her not develop further, there was the cut that we have not yet seen the best of them and what we had seen until then it was already crazy I told you the 6 grades listed in the playoffs, among other things, against wbo 27 8 and 4 we were then the deportations of their developed yes but also that you say yes well they would never do it anyway, in the first place First of all, yes, first of all, they don't know how to improve at all, and second of all, who was the Heat's worst opponent this year?

In the end it was the Pacers, the Pacers and the space in the Celtics until 2012. , but after that it was the Pacers, they even forced the game while drunk and then warned rehab because the pacers with roy hibbert the stevenson style and Peaches did it certify and the finished ones really fit back then because I wasn't much older. was number one, so you could say that these bulls who had such sick series from 2008 onwards would not have been able to improve with an ever-improving Terry Crews. I'm not saying they would have beaten them well, but they did.

I could have held up against them at least at the same level as Indiana and I could have had a little more faith in them if the Actros had continued to develop like we saw from 2008 to 2012. Well, look at Dorsten and the point guard. who finally stopped developing from his fourth year onwards and we just make assumptions and say yes, this and that and that and what would that be, but right now with Carmelo Anthony I only have one horn of fame, now I have one of the 75. best players I have a chorus of the best teams for the veterans and as a 19 year old at the beginning of his NBA career I wouldn't put him on a garbage franchise with no veterans to support him somehow I can put them on a championship team and under a Hall of Fame Coach, that's something completely different.

Mental development for the 19 year old who suddenly becomes a multi-millionaire everywhere in one fell swoop, that's a completely different factor. You know how badly Melo strayed in the first few years afterward. he won the bronze medal from someone. See has thrown out all these things we know about the news. Do you think it would have happened more if it had veterans like Chauncey Billups like Ben Wallace Newswires would have allowed something like that? I can't believe average Wallace. I would have said that Villiger wanted to go further back then. He's not there anymore, but with the blazer like I'm now one of the best options, it's completely normal that you come to a trash franchise.

That was an absolutely exceptional situation that the Pistols like. The contenders even had these signs and Dan Brown with the caps were also a pile of rubble, yes, the destiny you have as a top

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is normal and that was what Mallow said, no, you know where you can compare with us, you can compare it perfectly. with Magic Johnson Magic Johnson was very lucky in 1979 to be sent first by them who were also a championship. But the team got the first

pick

for whatever, imagine Magic's career if he was the eleven at that time in '79, I have no idea who. the trash was, most likely the Hawks, imagine Magic on the Hawks, what's your name, that wouldn't influence your career, then there would be the Showtime Lakers.

I have it and then the Hall of Famer, Magic Johnson, is probably fine by now, but if he had done it. that, but if the five-time champion magic johnson were there, the exhibition would also be tougher, we'll see another one at the dam, I don't know, but that's my point too, I'm not saying that his career wouldn't have gone somewhere else, and I'll give him two titles with the skis from track, but first of all, and that's not the best player by any means, the player was the most loan, who in his first year in his second year was not just once our larry brown and the game shares you. get there he wouldn't change and again the guns have their era with 261 conference finals titles and endless awards and that's exactly how Mallow had his hall of fame career both can look back and say amazing, the migros They can't look back, say amazing that's the difference the girls' big day all you get is absolutely a little love now and then a few field plays Woods in the Six Men of the Year that's all that's left of the NGP David Kross everything was taken away from him after four years on the court he had a great era he became a champion Melo has been playing in the NBA for 20 years he had a hall of fame he can set yours records he established one of the 75 best players in all the time that it was followed by the league or it was my fault it was you With what you said it was such a misleading franchise directly in Nokia in the playoffs six out of seven times in the first round in the next.

Nothing broken after that, nothing broken, yeah, sorry, it's your fault too, I think religion was recruited. The Nuggets in Bonn, if they had done so, would have failed in the first round six times in seven years. No, otherwise, you would have to take the blame. Time and time again, Erik Roos was chosen instead of the best. Melo was Melo and the tracks both can say despite this wrong decision, great race, he and Terry Crews can't say that and with that I have won this concentrated point. Okay, you're babbling, ask yourself what it would be because I.

Like, I do the project myself, so I also used to turn in the written work and say, well, 1 before the teacher got it, so what would have happened to it? We know Derrick Rose, that is, we know how tall he is. he's not a particularly strong defender and we know that the Migros couldn't shoot a three-pointer for the first, I think, seven years, nine years, the first nine years of his career until 2018, he had a three-point rate of 30 percent or worse, you're telling me and the 3-point revolution would have made Derrick Rose faster now. His career shooting average went up about 6-7% because then I'll give you the example of Russell Westbrook and I won't hold out. for the first time a question is even for you a defensive oriented code.

I'll put it this way he leads a very strict regiment, okay, but why wasn't the Webos software a good defender? I that was also brought in the way if the The team under the coach values ​​the fans, you will automatically have a good contract, so if your facilities match those of the Warriors when the Warriors are on their school trip, but a good , that means that Meno Male Apple has its pending, there are men. Just don't expect to do it. defending the facility 20 years a year simply never has the equipment and philosophy to ensure it. You can also go back to the nineties to show me Charles Barkley when I tell you then Charles Barkley replaces Jackson.

You will also agree that it would have been better to bring everything home with a drastic point Derrick Rose was already in his third year at guard who above all focuses on the most open is my best example russell westbrook russell westbrook triple-double machine russell westbrook even more incredible athlete than him. migros but still like facebook alone never managed to develop a triple and now controls something open career more or less disappointing it's also okay if you ask yes and the same would have happened in migros who has the best career for you mello's email or website thank you thank you why then as you say barry kroos could have been better than we blog say the same thing become good but just as successful, that means that even if Migros hadn't gotten injured and then had a career at West Book, Melo would still have had the best career despite this dramatic graph, then you can't seriously tell me that he surpassed this strong of the tracks that he lost than the migrants who couldn't have a boyfriend career in the United States now your argument is not valid because Melo had a much higher rating tall from day one, longer than the entourage on the other side, he is still a 185 188 point guard who, above all because of his speed, dominated in the first years.

He was one of the greatest scorers of all time. Melo was the best player on both courts and Derrick Los, who is Westbrook's career. I don't have to say anything else. I don't have to be people who just met. I just heard about your death of Schneider in general. salary of 200 comments under this debate expected 198 say no 189 for me very clearly very clearly people sorry watch the interview again before commenting on the answer the retro is after his 50 point game and then comment on this episode and then I want being less than 100 less than 190 I don't want to see I don't want to see that somehow makes me feel like you're walking through your life I think you're walking towards his in the hallway and you're meeting him, place the instructions and 631 yes, but you don't have a ticket with you like when you go on a hike and that only you talk is right on the way to the sea.

It's the Trump parallels again, okay, yeah. I'm excited today shows that we are already there. It's been a long time, but I'm over it now. You want to tell me seriously because I said that Melo has a better career than Westbrook anyway and I compare the Migros with him.Westbrook 6 and the discussion turned I would have called you I have the much higher discussion of Werner and everything I explained in the last 30 32 minutes what the guests had achieved that the men had just said Hello explain everything What did you say? here? We all cried because Terry Crews said 50 points.

That's what you told me. But decisions come, yes, if so, it has hardly been influenced by 498 comments, so people feel free to write in the comments how they like the whole device. What's the story of the biggest problem could be my parents, the Pistons guy, or Derrick Rose, who never gets injured and then never gets hurt again because his whole body seems to be made of toothpicks; now you can listen to your biggest defender of the whole time trial larry brown has good traces of defense in training you can but you can still discuss it with larry brown at least you can't use your cell phone anymore put the window in your pocket, it's okay people, them We wish you a Merry Christmas We will go out for an intense debate and we will see you next year.