QNAP TS-464 vs TS-453D NAS - Which Should You Buy?

Hello and welcome back and today I hope to help you answer the simple question:

should

I buy this or this? That's how it is.

qnap

has now updated its range of solutions for SMEs and prosumers, the previous favorite of that range, its type of flagship product The 53d series has now slowly but surely begun to give way to the ts 64 series, however both are available on the market, it has to be said that at the moment, no matter

which

e-tailer you are looking at, their standard Amazon and the Like some of their more specialized retailers around the world, the 64 series has most likely been released now between the first quarter and the first half, depending on where you are in 2022 this system is available and I would say the more expensive option of the two as well.

It came with less stock available globally, it has to be said that it is a completely new release and that's how these things tend to be, but at the same time you have this 53d series released in spring summer 2020 a couple ago. Many years ago and now this system is much more available and now that price is also a little more affordable some places list price differences between these two units of around 50 to 100 pounds. Now, the first disclaimer from the beginning. I am well aware that these are not strictly the same profile system. This is the ts ts-464 and this is the uh, sorry, ts 464 and this is the ts 653d.

However, this is the six bay model because it didn't have the 4xd. series in the studio I have this on the table here, but take it as it reads in this video that practically everything we are going to cover applies to the two bays, the four bays and the six bays, but for clarity. in this video I'm going to refer to both as their respective four bay systems just know if you're looking at the 253 um or the 253d 264 or if you're looking at the 464 and the

453d

or any combination of that combination pretty much everything. What I'm going to talk about now applies, but let's really dig into that price difference.

We are going to have between 450 and 100 panties. That's not a small sum of money that you can accumulate in a couple of terabytes here or there if you shop around smartly enough. So the first thing we really have to combat in this video is that the new device in the series is worth that extra money and I would say mostly, mostly, because it also has to be when we compare these two boxes, one against the other. It

should

also be noted that when the D-series was first released in two four- and six-bay devices, it was more expensive.

It's just the way these things work when these devices are first released, they tend to be very, very close or else Take advantage of the recommended retail price, that rrp number and the drop in the price of this device is It's simply because it's been around in the industry for so long that it's been around for over two years in terms of availability in models two, four and six, and because the new series has come out, that's the other reason for that difference in price, so although I will of course say that the new generation box is much better in every way in terms of internal and external hardware for the most part, it will be very difficult to say that. justifies the price difference in terms of software, they both run exactly the same version of software,

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qts platform there with the regular updates, applications are added there, client tools, all that kind of stuff, the only real difference Among them when it comes to the software is that this device can do more things at maximum volume and by that I mean that a single user interacting with these two devices will not really feel any difference in terms of what the software is capable of. do in most cases. cases, but the moment you start increasing the number of users and the number of processes active on the system simultaneously, from individual cameras to individual file searches, individual shares and snapshots and more, you find that the next generation system , thanks to its more modern renovated architecture, be able to do more things and in similar tasks, whatever they may be, you will find that the d series box will use more CPU in any given task than the internal 64, so in In terms of software there is very little difference unless we are going to push these boxes, but I think let's be realistic, let's delve into the hardware difference between them because in the next generation box we accept that a new version will have better hardware and for the most part of the cases, that is true, here let's look at the difference in measurements between them, so the CPUs inside these devices are Intel Celeron x86 64-bit processors based on Celeron.

This family of Nazis has practically, with some small exceptions, always featured a Celeron-based processor and the reason for that. If it is the most cost-effective, it strikes a fine line between efficient 24/7 use and not requiring a fan built into the system while still allowing for a price that allows users to have a good idea of ​​all the features available. The brand includes a lot of third-party stuff without having to spend a lot of money, here's how they are generated to find them. They are also known as devices for small and medium-sized businesses or prosumers or professional consumers.

Now both CPUs have a clock speed of 2.0. gigahertz on the j4125 and the n5095 or n5105, we'll get to that in a moment, the CPU is called convention, but between them they both have a clock speed of 2.0 gigahertz, however this one broke out, meaning you can overclock up to 2.9 gigahertz, while the 64 can also clock at 2.9 gigahertz on all four cores, although both have a graphics manipulation hardware encryption engine and the integrated graphics are slightly better on the 6-4 series, so If you're looking at things like multimedia you're looking at things like the plex media server you're looking at you know how to handle files and data that have a graphical or opengl component, then you're probably going to be better off on the 64 series, not by much, but certainly to a marginally noticeable degree for average one-to-one access.

The reason I mentioned two CPUs listed in this series and only one in this series is because when this nas came out, Intel had just updated their j4000. series with the last revision, the quad-core j4125, there was also a dual-core 4025, but in the two years since then we have had hardware shortages in most areas of IT, but especially the semiconductor shortage changes the level of manufacturing and consumption due to the pandemic and the The way people have changed the technology they need and therefore have had to restructure and of course educate themselves on who would normally upgrade a series of CPUs every two or three years, basically having to have mixed stocks everywhere and stopping updates in the middle range of the result. is that the celeron n5000 series that is used in this new generation are actually three CPUs that fly from Intel, they are quite identical, they have small differences with the best of the three and I really mean by incredibly marginal degree the n5105 processor now that the CPU is more than just clock speed the difference between is not just that the CPU gets up earlier in the morning that day and may stay up a little later, it is more multifaceted than that and the main big big big The difference between these processors is something called pci lanes and the chipset, what that means now is that every time you put different features into a nas, you add more storage space, you add more mains batteries, you add SSDs.

When adding USB, everything you add has to be handled by the CPU and the CPU can only handle a certain amount of features and functions in terms of uh devices connected to the hardware client at any given time, that's why it finds out when the NASA have a certain price. period, they don't come with a lot of added hardware, the CPU can only handle a certain amount of things at a time, well, in the case of the ts253d uh 253d

453d

and 653d, that CPU allowed the system to have a couple of uh There are sodium memory models and the CPU supporting eight gigs of memory allowed it to have two 2.5 GB Ethernet ports.

They're in the back again. This is 20 20. This was years ago. Additionally there is USB 3.2 gen one

which

has five gigabits per second USB and unfortunately three USB 2 ports because the pci lanes were pretty much exhausted at this point, on top of that it also had a pcie upgrade slot; However, at least in the case of the four and six bays, that PCI lane was gen twice two, the result was that PCI upgrade slot, although there were announcements that that slot was being used by 10 gigabit ethernet cards or even ethernet combo cards that allow you to use USB, sorry, network interface upgrades to 10 gigabytes and usb um m2 nvme ssds or just go ahead with 10gb upgrades, you could put them in there though, that pcie bandwidth in the d series it was a thousand megabytes pcie gen two times two gen two is five hundred and then two times equals a thousand, so you could add a ten gigabyte ethernet card and get a thousand bandwidth there if you have the right number of drives to saturate it, but by the time you started looking at m2 ssd cards or started looking at combo cards that had 10gbe and m2 SSD, the communication between the card and the system was reduced and therefore you had the ability to upgrade, But the PCI lanes and chipset inherent to the core of the system did not provide enough lanes or enough paths to move to higher capacity. that pcie, if they wanted to extend the pcie lane on the back of this they would have had to reduce a number of features around it, maybe the storage bays could be removing 2.5gbe which was something critical to the popularity of This system at the time of its future-proofed nature of that CPU, the system also arrived, as mentioned, had 4 gigs of memory that could be upgraded to 8 gigs of memory, the maximum supported by that CPU.

Now I have a long way around the houses here, but the reason I explained all this is because in the case of the ts 464 and indeed the two and six game versions of this, if things are very different, the CPU brings many more lines to play, consequently, it has everything this device has, but a lot. more so, for example, it has its four docks on the front, but the first thing you may notice is that it has that USB port on the front and both of them have a USB port on the front and a one-touch copy button, but this It's usb 3.2 gen 2 and that means that while this can give you up to 500 megabytes per second streaming, this can go up to a thousand over USB, why is it so important if you're going to be backing up a lot of files? from the nas to a usb? or from a usb to nas regularly this can take time whether you do differential backups or not the larger the amount of new data the longer it will take now if you were looking at just a standard hard drive in a case if are you looking at the simple wd passports or seagate backup plus drives, you know that these drives don't really produce more than 180 megs anyway, no point worrying about them, it wouldn't make a difference, but the cost of the hard drives and so In fact, SSDs, more importantly, have declined. is reduced substantially and so you can get drives like this this is one of the extremes of Sandisk and it has a m2 ssd inside it and it can produce a thousand mixes easily and if I use this ssd from this external ssd which again is constantly on sale black friday main day you know any kind of seasonal discount you see a lot of these now you plug it in this will be half the speed of this and for your backups that could make a difference because time could literally mean money now that USB uh doubling down compared to this device is just the beginning, in fact on the back of the device, although it features USB 2, which again I'm not a big fan, it still has another USB 3.2 gen 2 port right there , so again. there is a lot of scalability and upgrades and in fact remember these systems also support that qnap 5 gigabit usb to ethernet adapter which has dropped in price several times and allows you to add even more network connectivity on these devices now talking about connectivity network, this system Like its predecessor here, it also has 2.5 gigabit Ethernet times two, so things seem to be relatively even, what else can this device bring to the party?

Well, it has two things first and foremost on top. Here you will have noticed that I have already installed it. a pcie card, this is an optional extra, but the pcie slot on this device is pcie gen three times two. Remember that this was twice two and it gave you a thousand megabytes. Generation three times two allows you to have two thousand megabytes per second. install two ports for 10gbe cards or like I did you can install this combo card and afford to have nvme and 10gbe ssd drives on a single card with that 2000 pcie slotmegabytes per second which gives you much better bandwidth and accessibility to that card's resources, whether they be storage or include greater network bandwidth and the rest of the system.

Yes, two thousand megabytes per second is still not the end, still not fantastic given most SSDs these days, like the Seagate Ironwolf and the wd red. The SN700 series can give you between three and five thousand megabytes and so technically they would still have a bottleneck, but they will have a bottleneck significantly less in this system than in this system. Another thing, because remember that until now we have had more USB ports. By doubling up, we've seen double the pcie bandwidth in that slot, but on top of that, this system also supports up to 16GB of DDR4 memory.

In fact, the 53d series comes with a new generation DDR4 2400 megahertz data memory. It arrives with 4 gigs of 2 66 megahertz of data inside, but you can also upgrade it up to 16 gigs, double that of the 53d in terms of its scalability there, so if you're looking for vms, if you're looking to use multiple IP cameras, yes you're looking to run a lot of different services, each of which will demand a bit of memory, which will be a huge advantage in terms of scalability of the next generation system, another thing this system has and probably the last big difference between them in In terms of hardware architecture, at least, it's the fact that the next-gen device also has M2 NVME slots that you don't even need to use. card, if you use the card you can add more to this system, for example the ts-464 has four HDD bays and two m2 SSDs, technically with six storage bays and those NVME m2 SSDs can be used for caching , so read and write caching improves regular file access or overall load on the system, you can use the Q level, which allows you to create a single storage pool, there is a combination of hard drives and SSDs and then it intelligently learns the most common access files and then moves them to the ssds, not like caching that copies them and creates duplicates or you can just create a separate SSD port.

You could have your four hard drives in there doing the job of file storage and longer, bulkier, cost-effective hard drives and then have a couple of super-fast SSDs in there. order your quick access storage via vms for the important data, now again those slots inside because it's still a celeron, it can't go as far as an intel core, each of those ssd bases are pcie gen three times one, so What each SSD bay only gives you is a thousand megabytes and not the potential three to four or five thousand that some of these SSDs can provide, but still this is a feature that is completely absent on the 53d, so when you really look at it, the new generation device, let's say you're looking online and you see a hundred pound price difference, hopefully you won't see it and as time goes on the price will reach some sort of parity, but if If there were a hundred pound price difference between these two boxes, if we were looking at the two four bays, where does that £100 stack go?

It is heading towards a more powerful and efficient CPU. It's heading towards the ability to have double the storage. It gives you the ability to have a faster USB. Gives you the ability to add. m2 nvme ssds and gives you the ability to add faster pcie cards. I guess the point you must have understood by now is that this system is more future-proof, more scalable, and even though its default base model is a huge improvement over the 53d. it's in its scalability to add up to two 10gbe ports, the ability to add m2 nvmes ssd, the ability to add faster USB and simply more ways it can be improved over time, in fact qnap has a range of Its own expansion series in the TL and TR range has 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10 bay expansions.

You can add them to both systems, but it will be much faster and much more robust on the 64 series and that's what you're paying for. word future proof or technically two words for the script and if you're looking at these two systems and you don't think it's going to be updated in all those different ways if you don't think it's going to run a multi-user, multi-client environment, the 53-d can still tick all the boxes for you. It's still a very, very good nas that can still provide pretty much everything that qnap's hardware software portfolio offers in this fully featured nas, but I just think for such a small price difference and being able to stand out and expand its In twice as many ways with twice the bandwidth, makes 64 a no-brainer for me.

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