Denzel Curry on ‘TA13OO,’ Career Lows, XXXTentacion & Florida Rap | Everyday Struggle

good morning and welcome back to the daily

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Tedeschi here with these you academics wait oh and another special guest Denzel

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you know what I mean in a street that you don't see, you're welcome your fans have been hitting us on Twitter everyone's moment like what are they going to do to have to do it here and this and that. I've been a fan of yours for a long time so I'm glad you're here, we made it for the fans so I hope you guys. I'm happy too, how are you? You released an album this week, it will come out in three parts, so two are already out, yes, another part is coming.

We have many questions for you, but why is the three-part wealth reaction released as taboo? I wanted to do this little by little and I wanted people to understand where I was on the album because I've been saying it in interviews like, okay, you're going to have a light part, you're going to have a big part and we're going to have a black part, so for the People don't get confused, they will say, "You know what the light is," what the big part is, what this part is, how do you know when it starts, so I'll show you where. start this is the light part that's already out this is a big part that's already out and then you're going to press the black part that comes in, which is when everything goes backwards.

I wanted the album to go backwards because I usually start off very dark and it didn't light well it's not like it's dark I just wanted to imagine a plant and it just turns into a mmm like it turns into a boo boo that's how I wanted to record the album with the sound like you know it's interesting because a lot of people are putting out the double album it's true we just got another one from Wiz with 25 super long tracks so it's interesting that year this is your strategy so it's a little bit different than just being like there's a super long project here that maybe Site A or Side B or like it doesn't really have a flow so question my foot in the three parts in eight different parts of you, well, sort of yeah, but everything It's like all my personalities are in this one thing, but if you listen to all my albums and stuff like that they are different chapters of my life and you tell me that when I was creating this album it was literally what happened between 2016 and 2017 and what happened in 2018 and that whole process of making this album was like discovering who Denzel Courier was. you know, and in the process I made an alter ego called gel tron ​​in the process and that's like I don't know, it's just crazy like an entity entity where I put all my personalities and one person, everyone goes crazy. and I thought I had done it before in 2016 because I created an altima personality Denzel

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, but it seems that Denzel's best messenger was not the best as he says, so I created a candle trying to really embrace each and every personality and respect every detail to form an album like this, I like to build it and that's what was in the way, you know, I was where I was when I was creating it and 2016 was like that, it was like a really dark period of my life, but it was all happening during Me, at the same time, you know you're an XXL freshman under 20 in a big class, yeah, I was in the freshman class of 2016.

I went on tour for four years in a row, as they call it, but what people don't see is like me. I had to leave the band for my

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, you know, so I had to move back to my parents' house. I had to deal with what, uh, why, just because what happened was like my friends, you know, I didn't want to pay. the rent, yeah, I didn't want the rent to be everything to me and because my friend just lost his job, yeah, and like we were all standing up, this reviewer called the forever house and instead of giving up on the house, I gave it to another. dude like look at Forbes you could take my room 12 people are moving in and that's when my ex Ronnie Jay Jay Cato Reapers like my friend shame is my friend Lord Luci and we were all standing like one crib you know I'm Sam and then, like when Shane lost his job at Whole Foods, that's when I thought, now I can't pay for everyone, you feel me because we had a system where only four of us paid rent and some people who stayed. you just had to worry about the bills, but you could come there and create because that's what it was, it was like a creative Trap House, but as soon as it was done we just left, but we still kept it as a creative Trap House, young-sam and I kind of went back to my father's place to regroup and rethink everything I was doing and then at that moment it was like I was at odds with my family at odds with handling myself I was just angry for no reason this is me like I was dealing with her not like I was dealing with breakups like I was dealing with people not me because like whatever you know I'm saying and then when I got out of that hole and yeah I went on tour Plus it was enough Smart enough to say that the money is going back to my father's house and that she is traveling because the Pam-4 crib wouldn't make sense, right?

You have a human side. I think a lot of times when you're a fan on the outside looking in it's easy to say, why are you disappearing? why didn't you turn this off? why don't you do that? But I remember that people go through real moments. You know, yeah, but I can tell you that I disappeared for a while. I didn't really like it at all, although you know what I'm saying, it was like I was looking at all my classmates, from my freshman class to my friends, you know, I'm saying it exploding and the people you think are I wasn't really there when it was happening because everyone had their own agenda or just oh yeah, whatever I'm getting today.

I got a little discouraging for you, it became a little discouraging for me until like I had to make decisions on my own, I was being selfless to the point where I didn't care, you get home early and then I had to choose between being selfless or be selfish and I had to be. Selfish for the right reason, you know, I say it that way. I moved to Los Angeles. I didn't have a place to stay when I was in Los Angeles. I didn't have a home, nothing like I was just hopping from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb, but I didn't have a set location until I met this girl named Kelly hmm and she let me sleep in her crib for about five months hmmm ya you know, it was there, I knew it written there and then, like eventually she became a part of my life, so I ended up getting the crib and then I thought, since she was helping me through the whole process that I was going through and recording this album and people were talking about me and people weren't with me and like realizing who your real friends were, realizing that your family is going to be there no matter what I had to go through all of this and then it was like it was kind of thing where I had to find out who that curry was before I started. smoking weed before he started experimenting with acid before he started delving into this music before he started doing anything, you know, before this whole cloud of fame, whatever was going on at the time, who was he? and then when I took a step back, I started to realize. like I was standing where I was I was getting stuck yeah when did you get off to a great start?

I have this post, I think it's from March of this year, where people, fans are getting nervous that maybe you were really I'm going to take a break for a moment and backtrack, so you said my biggest fear is not letting people down. my fans and my family. I know you just want me to release music and you will receive it, but from now on I am with nothing and life doesn't mean if your purpose is not fulfilled. I meant what I said. Do you feel like you've found that purpose? That's how they found a purpose for me, but that's how everyone wants it. you gotta make the decisions they want you to make, like fans demanding you do what you better drop something like this or you better do it like this, shut up come on bro shut up if you don't like my bounce like to you. with me and you want me to evolve, those are the people I need in my life, period and when he was no longer with me, he was talking about social media, he was just saying everything that was happening at that moment, he was not with any of them.

Sometimes it's entertainment, sometimes it's overwhelming and I'm like, man, do you feel pressure to be on social media more? Like some artists like to get a lot of views just for the antics that people tune in to see. Do you feel pressure? People? No, no one around me pressures me to do that now I'm handling it, not my friends, nothing, but I'm not going to play the game of deception. I won't do that, you know, yeah. I'm not going to do that, you know that's not me, well, I think you know what I really appreciate hearing all this about you being a man because it takes a man to admit that you know you're this high in your

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and then like the things stayed with you and you said that a lot of artists wouldn't admit that they had to go live with their parents, a lot of artists wouldn't say that I was depressed and then another person encouraged me even when we were just talking. about like you stayed with the same guys you stayed with like what was the moment with you that you had to understand I was what you understood who Denzel Curry was before all the same when was that moment like before after what you just said how you use it like I was trying to figure out who Denzel card was at the time I stopped smoking weed that's all if you smoke weed you know to each his own if you do whatever to each one, but like me, I felt like the most.

The clarity I had was when I stopped smoking marijuana because I remember all this stuff that I was doing when I wasn't doing anything when I wasn't smoking pot when I wasn't drinking when I wasn't doing anything and then and I was like you know, when I wasn't doing all this stuff because I knew that my life I was going to be boring at some point, I thought: what do I do from here to stay happy? And I just focused on what made me happy when I was there. As a young man, drawing made me happy, I'm an artist, right, I was drawing before I rapped, so writing made me happy, I write a lot, you know, like freestyle that made me happy, like go, that made it fun to go to the studio and you know, saying it's like leaving something stupid and the stupid thing turns out to be something really cool and then you polish it and you do it and you just like the process and like you know, just um, you know, just live my life and come back. to martial arts. and stuff and so on because it's really a fight, they're really into martial arts.

I'm really interested in that and then the same day I started smoking weed, I signed up for moita and I thought okay, so. This is 2016. I imagine if you're on a freshman cover in 2016, it's like it created a moment. I didn't care about anything, bro, I really didn't care about anything, man, because at that point in my life it was like depressing for me, okay, but career-wise, maybe even money-wise, maybe like you. They were doing good, but you said mentally, mentally, mentally, I was you, you just weren't the person you should've been, yeah, 'cause you know when you go on tour, crazy hoes, them crazy rappers probably already know, and then you say you're taking the drugs and you like them, you just like them, not at the right time, you tell the management it's stupid, not everything comes to you the right way, you know, you say and then I had to realize that I was dealing with internal problems, internal problems. with myself and I was projecting it on others, you understand me and at the same time I was receiving energy from all these people that you know, examination that makes me feel more disordered inside, that is very adult of you to recognize that as if it were someone else .

Did it help you get to that point or was it just an internal feeling saying I just don't feel this, I'm not happy, no, I like it. It started with me when I was in Miami and I realized that it was okay to For some reason I met the light, you know, just being in your hometown it was like people were going to start hating you for something, for some reason, but to all artists like to deal with it well and most artists who unfortunately lose their life, lose their life and their hometown, I mean, and that's from New York to Los Angeles to Florida, right, it always comes from home , no, I'm like me, I looked at everything I was, if I don't do something now, I'll get into something with someone or something or just anything, even with myself or my family or whatever, oh, like people who say they are friends and even with my ex to some extent it was like you know so I broke up with my ex and I thought I'd move to Cali I need to get away yeah clear my head for a while and that was like most of 2017 I'm going to feel your shoulders before, and I like it, it shows us an experience, I'm sure your show is deadly, explain it, claim the rafters of the South. for Southwest, yeah, so I wanted to know if at a time when you said you had one or two, it was that part of your life that kept you afloat through all of this, like your experience with your fans firsthand, definitely , Yeah.

I mean, I like meeting people, but when it's like a ton of people trying to meet me at the same time, I feel overwhelmed because you're not doing it, no, yeah, but yeah, touring keeps me afloat, like performing every nights, why not? most negative beforeto go on stage mm-hmm true like oh that just happens in my life and I don't do this or I like that I felt embarrassed or anything that hurts me in the least I just go on stage I even think about my brother, a times, like my brother passed away in 2014, that was another reason why I didn't even get a chance to grieve my brother's death until 2016, so that was another thing that really bothered me and every time I go on stage I think at things that really bother me and I just get angry and that's why you feel all that anger and rage and I like why it becomes Well, look, people obviously like to connect with their rights as a form of therapy for themselves and , in fact, they want to play a clip of your Cobain video.

The press release that came with this was pretty incredible. Let's show a snippet first. Okay, so I want to listen. Just a little bit about how you put this together, but the release that came out with this said that it's an inspiring wake-up call to fellow artists and their fans that the cyclical modern minstrel show ends lives prematurely. There was more, but clearly this is it. It's not a light video, so where were you? What did you get by coming into this, bro? It's just a circus. Leyna, you sure use a circus. That is a fact.

Well, what did you get? I mean, I understand what you're saying, but again. More or less inside too, so for me it was like I was going to grow up and be a journalist, and you come into the industry and you realize all the horrible things that happen and I go through phases like you a lot of times, I disappear. It's always like you don't post enough on social media, you don't do this and that. I just don't want to be a part of, sometimes you know what I mean, so I guess from your perspective it's even heightened because you're an artist, you pull it with a much bigger lever than I ever will.

I mean I have the choice to deal with it, you see the idea, whatever I don't, we all do it well, but in the end we were passionate and We wanted to follow our dreams and that's why we are here, it's like balancing your dreams with politics and yeah, I mean, fun is like the song I actually wrote because I was like I had an argument with a friend about something about something I did young-sam hey Dan, I was like me, this is it and then I don't look at it from his perspective, he like me, you know, so maybe I was a bad friend at the time and then you meet me and now she's good friends, but it was the fact that I wrote it because I was somewhere angry. somehow sad at the same time because my friendship had ended and then I wrote it right there or whatever is bothering me.

I just wrote it right there and I wanted to say it simply so that everyone understands it well, not so that no one understands it because I know that not everyone will understand what I'm saying, but one thing that people will do is ask what I got out of this because it's me, it's kind of graphic, especially at the end with the window dressing suicide pretty right and seeing the crowd interaction, especially when you pulled the gun right, it was basically kind of like hip-hop, especially even social media. to the right point, you want to see something happen, it happens right because the crowd reaction was like almost like, do it, do it, do it until it happened, it was like, oh, it happened, you know what I mean and that was a reminder of just what is it. not just entertainment but what life is like and I just held up a mirror I held up a mirror for everyone to see what was going on I didn't do it to offend anyone, but in a society where everyone likes some people to be offended You're going to offend and if you get offended then that means I was talking about you but at the same time it's like bro it's just reality and the reason why the videos are creepy because it's real yeah like people are scared of the truth , yes you can.

I can't handle the truth, I can't handle the truth, but if the government came out and said, we did this this and this, this is why this happened, this is why this happens, we're going to lose our minds, right? Yes, you know. I'm saying it reminded me a little bit of who pays poorly when he made that video, you know, it's kind of an exhibition, like you said, showing everyone what's going on because now I see so many people acting and pretending. like they want to see a lot of this, but ultimately like you said, when it happens then it's a completely different story, but what was your mindset, who directed that video, the end of the arms, okay, yeah, yeah I mean, it was like interesting to see like you know because I've seen bits and pieces of yours like I'm not going to sit here it's like we've known each other for a while but a lot and the actions have been in person yeah I never really had the chance to be a fan of yours.

I knew the person before I knew the music, so it's kind of new for me to see him and see what your perspective is after you tell me all these things about yourself. and seeing that you're growing up in such a different space and I think people will have a perception like they look at you and see that you have dreadlocks and there are some colors in your joints and think that you're a certain type. as an artist but you're changing that narrative with the content no, because you could put a meaning behind anything you know, I'm saying everything has a meaning, you know there's a reason I have a nose ring, my brother had two nose rings and I was going to like two different ones you know because he had two studs so I was going like I already looked like my brother in the face mmm that's why I did it and then when it comes to colors in my hair and I like it I'm a Dragon Ball Z fan so it's like a force a Super Saiyan yeah blue is like Super Saiyan God yellow Super Saiyan one two and three and then you have red which could be Kaioken of Florida rap, you know, I think it's probably the best representation of, I'm going to keep saying, promising, like new, like the resurgence of any particular region, but it's so different that you have like a bomb that makes a certain type of music if you make a certain set of muesli like if you have a codec that makes a certain type of music, what do you think of the scene?

Hey, I think she's beautiful, honestly, everyone's their own little, you know, Sam, everyone's their own person and there's a little scene where you don't know anyone. It's not like we're all going to be like, I mean, we all grew up with Trick Daddy Trina Rose, like we all grew up with that kind of stuff at the same time, like when everything was formulating, when they were doing their thing, we looked like it works. or we walked in and no one was trying to shake that hand at first. You know, I'm saying they're doing it now, but at first they weren't trying to hold his hand, so when the criminal came out and the Raider clan came.

I realized that's why I put my hands out and that's how we tried to help the generation, then Ray refused, disbanded, then the blueprint happened and then people like Pomp Kodak followed different blueprints, but the ones that came from the Riddick line could See it in the industry, if they weren't a clamp type of fan, there was a southern fan, so they even had a blueprint that he followed, you know, he was really prominent, yeah, we were talking about the Clint type , I think there's like the The first time I was presented with the rating, Clinton said, Hey, Rocky, you know, I mean he's affiliated with a Rocky shot and he likes Space Ghost, that's why space girls for second they become big for 2011.

I remember going to a lot of things like shows and that was such a big thing and when I look at it in terms of Florida, it kind of changed the way New York changes, no, in New York everyone feels that only You can make music a certain way, yes, in Florida. I mean, I grew up when you said like Trick Daddy and training. I grew up with that stuff too when I grew up here because it wasn't really regional. It was music, you know, and it became for a while every artist in Florida. I was coming out with some wild shooting or something wild like there's drug dealing and it's like with your ex, I mean, Kodak, you know Kodak has a little bit of that in their music, but now it's so different, it's like Dude, what?

Do any of you feel pressure because in New York you always say, oh man, does it have to be like it was before? Aren't they going to press? I simply want to evolve everything that we are evolving a lot because a client already came out, we did it well, like sons of bitches, it was different mmm, we did it well, you know, the first person I saw what color was Ruben Slick, That was the first person I saw what color. dress, yeah, yeah, I was Andy and I see everyone with colorful dreadlocks from time to time, um, it was like in this region of Florida where we were like, let's make it okay to be different, you know, that's what it was.

Hey, it was. We were into something super dark because if you think of a drug trafficking murder, shoot them, that's all dark, but ours was like memes like super super dark, yeah, again, think of the coast, think of the melting pot and then have. you know the Haitians and the Bahamian people, you have your ingredients, you have Cubans, you have everything, you have all kinds of races there, arms down and then you get different coaches and you learn about different cultures and then we just put it in one. and most of us can't afford to go to the studio, you know, they forced you to live in the city where it's like you go to South Beach and it's like glitz and glamor and you want to live that glitz and glamor life even though Even though they will eventually kill you if you stay on the other side of the bridge, you catch me and with that some of us pay for studies and stuff, and the ones who can do it is because, like some people, you know that those were drugs and stuff. put them in put us in those studios, okay, but most of us recorded it from our house and that's why from those five basses you get that crazy sound, that crazy sound because most of us were recording in mixcraft audacity, whatever logic that GarageBand was using.

What we were able to get at that time because none of us would like the distortion and the music and everything that comes from there, that's where everything came from, yeah, it's like everyone did it on their own. 'cause that's all I gave y'all with the funds I had to record, yeah that was it, I mean, normally, when I got my first mic, bro, before I got my first mic, I recorded it on a mic five bucks from Walmart G, when was this? So we met, we just talked about it in 2013, it was different from gel.

Clearly, you've been through a lot since then, your careers have evolved, but at the time you were young and so on. Hungry and so excited for a drink, can you even remember what it felt like to be in that moment? no man, I was just having fun, it was all, it was fun for me, like it still is now that I found who I was but I found who I am but it's like at that time it was fun I just wanted to show everyone that I'm the best period I don't matter what it was like It was like you Soul murder, I'm a job I'm a fact of fiction and tell me if you agree with this, it would be this statement because I've been thinking about it for a while, I feel like Florida is like the new Atlanta, but the new Atlanta in influence and dominant culture Atlanta is Atlanta Miami is Miami, not even Miami South Florida South Florida we have our own sound, I mean in terms of influence on culture, I feel like the music that is coming now I listen to, trying to get that sound from any artist. that's from Florida, as I see you think he's trying to sound like co2.

That's not Florida, they even try to copy the speech pattern. I see people trying to make music like pump. I see people trying to like it. I feel like people are looking at that. as a cultural or musical center for new sounds and creativity and what happened is what would happen with Atlanta is that people all over the country and all over the world copy it, okay, you say it like that, yeah, okay, plays with you like Lana does. that small but period from South Florida to South Florida and I understand what you're saying like it's influencing a whole like everyone else to do what we're trying to do, yeah, but it comes from where we come from, it's how we built this. so you understand me, yes, absolutely, yes, what are you putting that term?, yes, what an influence, so, yes, I understand it and when I say that well, I think it will continue to grow, it will continue to be good because I think I mean, if it's not going to be like that. brothers growing up will just stagnate, that will just go away until someone else we've been with claims it as their own, okay and that's when I get to a problem that I usually point out with New York, right, I feel like youth and what It al

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. young people to grow up and like doing what they do, you can't like to think constantly, so Trick Daddy used to do this, so look at these young people, these young people must be doing that, you let them do it, they find their own pockets , they find their own tastes. cultural inspirations and just keep building and you'll understand over time, we tell you, think about it, look at Atlanta, the way everyone in Atlanta was wrapping the same thing, yeah, who came out right, he's right, yeah, cash did something different , your family.

Did somethingthey could be Moved to Facebook, so now Facebook, if people do, if you have an artist page and your music is allowed by the people who control the music, obviously, I'm right, but I imagine they work with labels to say hello . If South Korea wants to put your music on Facebook, linking to your Facebook fan page will get people streaming and I'm pretty sure they'll find some kind of fee, so of course that's going to happen and it's inevitable because the music is a lot. A part of culture, like social media, is realizing that there are certain needs to really have control over culture, music is one of them and only for a while can you have people dancing doing challenges to these songs and you have to help record. tag to say hey listen to this license or hey you want to block it or if we allow it they'll start saying you know what we are we're just a streaming service so if you're driving by the car and the music comes on and they stream it if someone is watching you on a live stream you're streaming it so I think it's going to go there in the future it's going to go there and they just got the technology yeah about how many people are going to come to their site just to watch it already they try.

Do it with I remember they did it with noise I think it was cool. Try doing it with a little app that you had to download or not, it wasn't cool. I was in No, it was a wave. But it wasn't Nas' album. was in case he said it was dad's album, so for people to do it, so you know how nowadays, on streaming services, people select the playlist etc, if all the music ends up only on social media, is there still a level of healing or is it just? Like there's music, find the music you want, it's a wild west, yeah, why did they analyze me, it all starts like wah wah West, but in business you have to turn chaos into structure, that's how NS started and there That's when companies start to realize it. 'cause remember abusers keep rapping music yeah the worst thing is when your mom makes a call in the middle of the night all through the download they realize you know people are a lot of people some of this new generation have gotten over the culture of paying for music, so how about you make money off of music but you just give it away in a different way, where they don't have to buy it, they could just pay for the subscription because it's like it's the only thing and I'm sorry because you ?

I'm fat and I guess I'll throw this at Denzel. I don't know if that exactly helps artists because now, let's say, ten years ago, people just buy the album, yeah, now someone says, man, I already paid ten dollars for my subscription. I listen to everyone's album we've seen artists like complain about sym while they probably like you to monetize if you think about it you know if he prefers to subscribe because he listens to everyone's album and the more you click on your album the more it gets downloaded or whatever, think about those downloads and they could monetize those downloads and give them to the person, yeah, and like you know, send them and things like that.

I don't know, it makes sense, no, no, it makes sense, no, the only thing I was saying is that some artists I heard them say, well, you're paying $10 to listen to everyone in the past, you would have only paid $10 for my album and I'll practically get less money, so even if you listen to It's a lot. Now I get a cut of your $10 instead of in the past when people just bought the albums. Now I'd get the full 10, so are you counting? angry in the same way if you think about the doubts, if you think about that and you get less of that, it will just make you want to create an environment around that album so that people can pay for everything else, yeah, because people, I I mean, and now that I was I said this before, well, when I was in high school, everything that a street team will come and just hand out to the kids, now it's merchandise, like they'll come and give you t-shirts and they'll come and give you all these little ones. accessories with the The name of the album now they sell everything because I guess because you know the UM, the sales are down, yeah, and I mean, one thing I say that I like about this era of streaming is that the music is not filter as before, remember. like someone's album a whole week in advance and yeah and then they put the blame on your leg it's like you don't really see that it's not right anymore we're here this wednesday night at 10 o'clock or is it sunday at night at 12 is Like you could pick your pockets long before albums only came out on Tuesdays, then they started coming out on Fridays, now people drop them all kinds of times, you know, 'cause you don't know who's It remains, you don't know what happens if you drop them.

He says he is a little artist like a big artist, he is a big artist in this, we left him, so it's over, son, do you want to ask one more question with us? Okay, let's take out the other guy with the background of

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fighting. Because those are some real fan moves here, you guys got it, okay, here we go, let's take a look. Who fought every day? Your favorite correspondents outside the boss in the past used to be able to get to like Def Jam if I have a hot record and a shot, but if they don't want it, you can go to Interscope Savage today in 2018, what's the equivalent or how can the artists today buy their albums on two labels?

Big shout out to the Southside boss. I don't even know. I know how he got the old thing. That's crazy. How did you do that? That's the drug wizard is a complete source, how can you buy the records from him? That's what you said, what do you need to buy at the right time? Wait, I don't think it's not you. Don't do it because like long guys you have a fan base, long guys you have a cult following like basically whatever is making you strong right now and then you have the music behind it and I like the followers and everything and the influence, brother, the labels are going to I want to come buy one, that's what it is instead of buying, because does that mean you're already like Ward behind you?

No, I didn't take your question as okay, you've been making music, maybe even more than buying is recording how. Would you even like to contact a record label for more information for multiple different reasons? And I was saying that men on ours on Twitter use Google Breath, just start. I mean, Jim, things are different because you know I come from an era where it doesn't exist. Instagram, where you had to like, people had to sit after school and wait to see you, before you had to read about these people, watch an interview or see them next to our artist in the photo and then wait next to the stamp and run up to them like, hey.

Do you need an intern now? You can contact us, but as far as buying the record like you said, I don't think you really don't need to buy a record. You know what happens with Bobby Schmurder right when he had the clip. I got so much stuff that everyone was like, "Someone has to find this kid so he doesn't buy his record." People come to him and then that remembers to act, you always talk about the point of leverage, like when you have the leverage and then you dictate how the conversation goes. how you want the conversation to go, it's no one's business to teach you business, make sure you guys are together because they might wave a nice crazy check in front of you, put it in the back, you're not going to get as much pub or you know, they have everything kind of cheating, yeah, all the money you're supposed to get, no lawyer, yeah, and I mean, shows, tours, all that stuff you know, especially when you think about it like that because I was watching this documentary on NWA. and as I remember, Suge Knight was like, oh yeah, I could keep everything else, I just want the Masters or whatever, and I was like, that's when I figured it out, even before I signed on to do it.

I thought, isn't that good? I took the Masters and that's what you need and that's when I said, "Okay, that's what I want." Okay, sorry guys, Denzel said masters and the whole studio broke down for about 30 minutes. You know why? Know? He doesn't even have a microphone now, do you? let me talk, they don't even want me to talk about it, why not talk about it? Hey, look, it's like bro when I first saw the documentary, how Suge Knight just wanted the Masters and that's how I went. in everything and I feel like more artists should be encouraged to get some teachers bro creative control get some teachers to do what you want to do because she was already doing what you wanted to do from day one why should she change that?

Because she wastes money. in your face I'm going to get money anyway I don't care what it is for you right it's no one's business teaching you business they always say people see a check they get very excited they don't realize you're signing your life away, but it's interesting that you're learning all this from documentaries, hey bro, it's like I'm watching it randomly, randomly, to see how NWA broke up, how you know Jeff Rose started. I just wanted to see how everything happened in the story. and then when I saw that he was talking about tonight's show, Suge Knight came in and said yeah, I could have whatever else they had to keep these records, whatever, I just want the Masters and we gave it to him and I I said, that's what happened and then when they got up, so when my mansion came up to me it was like how do you want to handle this?

I was like I want my masters to be so sure that I'm doing that, I'm doing that, whatever he did, I'm doing that. Cool learning from documentaries and movies, okay, cool, you know, that's awesome. Okay, unfortunately we can't stay much longer, but we literally had a 30 minute conversation where the cameras we were recording, the camera wasn't recording at all, no audio. So now we're going to try to get some of that and try to include it, yeah we have to jump behind the scenes, this interview covers this because we probably have our best conversation on camera, some of that, I don't know. but a lot of it was good um but sorry for the technical difficulties but it's been amazing thank you for finally coming here you're going to DAP me for real okay so taboo now after an act yeah they're coming three. tomorrow night this camera I'm looking at what was done wrong but none of them probably work, it doesn't even matter, we'll see them on Monday in the daily fight.