Multiverse Fatigue

From a Marvel perspective, when I was on this stage in 2019, we introduced phase four of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but the fun thing to do here is talk a little bit about the future that we're filming right now, our new series for Disney plus Echo Shazam. has always been out of place in his own part of the DCU, so he connects very well and moves right into The Flash. The nonsense movie will apparently close out the new Republic by tying together the stories told within the Disney Plus shows. Blade starring rehearsals. Ali comes out on November 3rd. and we started filming this October a fantastic movie that I really love that reboots the entire DC Universe our Iron Heart series and to move on to Blue Beetle the Acolyte is a mystery thriller that will take us to the year 2008 and superhero movies are quite successful o Last year, in 2007, I missed the very popular Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy, face planted at the finish line with critics and audiences tearing it apart.

The shadows, thank you, are not pleasant, but this did not stop the demand for these films from nerds everywhere and these nerds. I had no idea what was about to happen because the summer of 2008 was the summer of the superhero three months apart, audiences were treated to The Dark Knight and the first Iron Man movie. Now, obviously, The Dark Knight It was amazing but that's not what this video is about sorry Christian Bale sorry what's wrong with you? I don't know, we're sorry, what don't you understand? Then Iron Man comes out and strikes this perfect balance between humor and serious storytelling, we have this really intimate thing. story about a flawed man who slowly grows as a person throughout the movie, the focus of the movie doesn't seem to be, watch this live-action version of your favorite comic book hero, it focuses on what makes any good movie normal by tell a compelling story.

The realistic CGI pop culture references and real-world political inspiration that Tony Stark was a weapons manufacturer for the war in Afghanistan made it much more believable than comic book adaptations of the past like Catwoman. Iron Man was not even a well-known character or a character very loved by the general public when the film was released, so it was a success more for the film itself than for having a recognizable hero and once the film was finished you would not Go because we have a little surprise for you later. the credits roll who the hell are you Nick Fury director of Shield I'm here to talk to you about the Avenger initiative okay that's cool The Avengers are like that Superhero team with Captain America Hulk and Spider-Man don't say his name OMG what great, really great, Sony owns them and now we have to pay them money because you mentioned them, oh but don't worry, if you love Iron Man, we have a lot cooking here at Marvel Studios, remember Hulk from like five years ago? ago oh yeah people didn't really like that well we have a sequel now Bruce wait the Hulk was always played by Edward Norton it's not important just watch until the end you know I hate to say I told you so General but that one super soldier The program was frozen for a reason.

I always felt like the hardware was much more reliable just a year after Iron Man and Hulk for sure and Hulk Disney bought Marvel Studios for four billion dollars. This purchase began one of the most lucrative powers. and all-time entertainment Marvel Cinematic Universe listen, most of us know the history of the MCU, whether you like the movies or not. Marvel movies have been inevitable for the past 15 years, but if you're young enough, you don't remember exactly where. why it became such a massive hit Marvel was the first franchise to start interconnecting its stories across multiple comic book-like movies At the time, for us 11 year olds this was super exciting.

You wouldn't just routinely get a fairly quality comic book movie. of a new hero every year, at the end of each movie you get a little clue as to where the story was going until you get to 2012's Avengers. This felt really new and fresh for a blockbuster franchise, they built this excitement with movies like Iron Man The Incredible Hulk. Thor Captain America from the First Avenger movies which are by no means perfect but are fun character based stories that got on screen versions of these characters for the first time and finally the 2012 Avengers were released and became one of the events Blockbuster's most important films. story, the film's closing credits introduced a character who is extremely recognizable today, but we're talking about the pre-Stone Age days of Fortnite for non-comic book readers in 2012, this guy was just a big purple weirdo, but we know him.

As Thanos' words spread among the Nerds shortly after Thanos and the Infinity Stones were a concept from the comics that could potentially create an even bigger Blockbuster than the Avengers movie and we could be looking at years of storytelling before this and like 15 years. Us old nerds ourselves were once again more than excited about this after Marvel had the general public in the palm of its hand by releasing some minor films like Thor the Dark World and Avengers Age of Ultron, but also massive hits like Captain America Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy Black Panther Civil War, which featured Spider-Man, Spider-Man Homecoming, Dr.

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Pretty average consumers of things like Marvel DC and other major movie franchises, basically if one of those Blockbusters comes out and it's known to be pretty good and fun, we'll check it out, but we'd also always prefer a heavy non-franchise movie that be great. and Marvel's phase four is the exact moment average consumers like us want out of the game. The endgame ended a decade of storytelling and was a huge moment; Just before Phase Three ended, we got to Spider-Man far from home. Most people love Spider. -Man, yeah, okay, I'll go see that too, but just because we want to get off the ride doesn't mean Marvel will stop the roller coaster from moving.

This is a multi-million dollar business with movies, TV shows, toys, clothing, video games. parks and more Marvel won't stop making money from our video, that's not how companies work, hey man, did you see Burback's new video? No, what they said is that they don't want to watch Marvel movies anymore, what does Kevin get? Kevin call Kevin, there's simply too much money involved to care about these projects as comic book fans got mad at Martin Scorsese for calling the movies theme park attractions and I implore you if you're mad at him, watch more films by important filmmakers.

I need support, yeah, and the problem is, um, amusement park movies, there's no that, that's very difficult for substantial movies or I don't want to use the word personal vision, but I have, uh, that doesn't mean it's not entertaining, right, but these? projects uh uh where can they be shown where can they be shown if cinemas have taken over well-made, beautifully made animated pictures, in a sense, listen, we like Marvel, there are absolutely good projects that they have done that you can connect to emotionally. , but Jesus Christ put a price on your movie catalog because there are better movies waiting for you after making so many franchise hits.

Artistic integrity has to become an afterthought for a business so big that it has produced over 32 blockbusters, but after all this. That's when Marvel started playing with a hot new idea in Hollywood

multiverse

s, let me just say it now,

multiverse

s or crossover episodes are not a new concept by any stretch of the imagination, we've had crossovers of different worlds in the media for a long time. . Hearts was a cross between the world of Final Fantasy and the world of Disney Super Smash Bros did it with all the characters from Nintendo Marvel vs Capcom that is so sweet the life of Hannah Montana and Jimmy Timmy Power Hour to name a few from our childhood the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour, a truly revolutionary idea with one of the ugliest art styles I've ever seen on TV, the Multiverse as an idea dates back to the 1960s with the Two Worlds flash in this comic.

The Flash goes so fast that he vibrates into a different Universe, this is generally accepted as the first use of the Multiverse, although the actual term was not used until later, as both Marvel and DC Comics regularly use multiverses throughout their runs. stories in big crossover events, but in the comics it's not such a crazy concept because they already do a lot of crossovers with other comics, different heroes and even companies sometimes, but the Avengers 2012 set off an act of domino effect in the movies and especially in Marvel, where these giant Blockbusters would be treated as episodes of a larger story.

Instead of focusing on telling a story contained on its own, that doesn't make the individual films any worse, yes, but they make a lot of money, but not all Multiverse projects are heartless decisions by the company. Just a few years ago, we put Spider-Man in the spider. -verse, this movie was probably the first to introduce the entire idea of ​​the Multiverse to the mainstream, and to make matters worse, it was absolutely fantastic. I mean, not only did this movie revolutionize the kind of style a 3D animated movie could have, but it was also an incredibly heartfelt, character-driven story that juggled a lot of crazy ideas, it all came together so well that it's one of my favorite movies of all time our good time, just say time, time, I say it has to be all about you, hey new thinking, maybe it's not just about you, this applies to everything too, in all parts, at the same time, that and spider-verse use the concept of infinite universes to delve into who the main character is and who he wants to become.

These are carefully crafted stories that people love to talk about on Letterbox, but they are also stories where the concept of the multiverse is used to tell a character-driven story. Spider-verse is a movie that includes infinite universes of every possible Spider-Man, but it's about everything, everywhere, at the same time. It's not a story about everything, it's about a single family, multiverses in their nature are an extremely confusing concept for storytelling, which is why if you're using it for anything buta character-centric story, say maybe for a concept for the next phase of your film and television franchise is going to get very messy Marvel spent over 10 years slowly building a relationship with the viewer through character-centric stories. characters.

Towards the end we started to lose that a little bit, but the stories were shaped into a larger narrative, so I sure can understand that, but the end of the game included time travel and multiversal concepts that somewhat destroyed what was up for grabs in the MCU and that's fine if it had ended there, but to pick up the pieces later and give us Loki Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness with no way home. and a split of all stories that briefly touch on the Multiverse or are completely about the Multiverse but talk about the Multiverse in completely different ways leaves the viewer confused and disengaged now we thought the strange doctor Multiverse of Madness was supposed to clean up these concepts for the average viewer and refocus the franchise in a way that a non-comic book Tick-Tock fan can understand, but holy man, the villain of the film is the Scarlet Witch who had just concluded her own side story on Disney plus, but the writers of Madness Multiverse couldn't even see the show leading up to their movie because Marvel's content machine hadn't spit out a split yet, it was still in development, it's a similar Madness Arc and Multiverse, in which they could there be a division.

There are parallel stories told about how to cope well with pain and loss. I propose that to the writers who wrote Multiverse I said do you know what we are doing in long division? You've seen? No, they hadn't seen it because it wasn't finished yet, so Marvel is now in a place where their production is moving too quickly to connect their projects. in a cohesive way and they're also juggling the most complicated and messy concepts with the Multiverse, as well as having more characters, TV shows and movies than ever before, so to the average person, how could they care if we're already sacrificing movies individual? being complete pieces Just so we can see one giant interconnected narrative then the story should at least be easy to understand and not a massive commitment to follow and after all this Thor Ragnarok was the project that Christian Bale chose to join the MCU , I'm sorry.

Christian Bale but we saw this movie and we didn't like it I'm sorry oh good for you and how it was wrong don't shut up now the Multiverse is getting a little crowded but potentially one of the biggest franchises of all time managed to avoid this . and stay in a timeline that takes place in a galaxy far, far away Shrek, no, I wanted to say Star Wars for decades. Star Wars was a simple and clean franchise for the general public, yes they had an extended universe, but that's for nerds and we're not. I care what you're going to make me read about Star Wars: it's a movie from 1977 to 2008, there were a total of six Star Wars movies and one animated TV show, and as someone who isn't a Star Wars fan but does enjoy frequently, this is an extremely easy compromise to see them live in theaters and rewatch them every few years today there are 11 movies with four more on the way there are also 10 Star Wars TV shows with 24 seasons now, for Of course, this is partly due to the passage of time and To be honest, fans who wanted more content, getting another trilogy of movies, getting two seasons of Mandalorian and allowing Dave Filoni to make Clone Wars for big fans of the franchise, It was good because when the sequels came out, you only had to make six movies. marathon, but especially the Original Three to catch up, but let's say you hadn't seen any Star Wars but you watched The Mandalorian because someone recommended it and also baby Yoda is incredibly cute, Mandalorian had the ability to be a show in the universe that didn't require any other material to enjoy and then they completely destroyed it, for example, if you're watching season 2, they dedicated an episode to introducing Ahsoka.

Ahsoka was one of the main characters in the animated show The Clone Wars that took place between two of the prequel movies, she has a lot of backstory that is covered throughout the show and even appeared in another animated show Rebels, but Mandalorian was the first time she was shown in live action, aren't you glad Ahsoka's live action now? I mean I didn't really watch the Clone Wars so I don't really know who's okay well let's say you did and let's say you're happy to finally see Ahsoka in live action so thanks for bringing back Soca Ahsoka Ahsoka. with an ah thanks for bringing back Ahsoka you're welcome as we said before we're pretty average consumers when it comes to this stuff but we've also watched and streamed a ton of Star Wars content and rewatched the movies .

I played the Lego games growing up, I watched the Clone Wars, some of the rebels played a lot of Battlefront 2 and until recently kept up with the Mandalorian and at this point we are so tired of Star Wars, holy Jesus Yes, it's too much, it's too other. than Andor, which was fantastic. I can't be bothered to get excited about just Star Wars anymore. We love Dave Filoni, but after the experience with Marvel we just can't commit to another Disney Plus story that requires seasons of TV and movies just to keep up with what's going on and Mandalorian is a perfect example of why these universes they're actually pretty bad for human storytelling and art.

John Favreau, one of the creators of The Mandalorian and also the person who gave rise to the MCU with Iron Man in 2008, said himself that The Mandalorian does not have a planned ending. He said it's not like there's an ending where you also build things because at the end of the day it's not about storytelling, it's about business and I know that's not a surprise to most of you, but for some people, it's a good story, it's planned, a good story has meaning, and to convey that meaning, the story needs a final look at Game of Thrones, for example, a show that was loved by so many people and now can't even play again. -was watched by those people because the ending was so bad that they felt the rest of the story didn't make any sense and I think what's so frustrating is that some of these comic book movies can be art in the Spider-verse, they end up to come out and they were fantastic and it's an achievement in the art in many different ways, but obviously we know that these companies are not going to stop making the money that they make.

I mean, for God's sake, we couldn't even touch DC EU and Flash because I mean, Tony, I think we just don't want to do it right, yeah, it's boring to talk about them, so, for God's sake, at least Slow down a little, take your time, make it less of a commitment for the rest of us. Give the CGI artists a little time to work on these movies to make them look better. Give your writers more time to create a story that is coherent and maybe at least try to have an individual message and a personal touch for each film because we are all so. tired, so at this point it's too exhausting for us and it's going to be pretty hard to get us to go to the theater and watch a Marvel movie, even if you add a top-notch talented actor like Christian Bale.

I'm probably just I'm going to see the movie on a flight, sorry Christian, baby, sorry Christian, you can kick your own ass, you know, shut up, oh, thanks to Stanford for sponsoring this video.