How Your Genes Listen to Your Beliefs with Dr. Bruce Lipton

Consciousness is creating our life experiences. You want to change

your

life. You don't change the world. You change

your

own consciousness. The world changes after that. Basically,

genes

are expressed based on how humans consciously perceive the world, but if you understand, you are the creator. So that is the option to stop creating the hell we live in and start creating the heaven we want. Welcome to the communion. We are on a mission to inspire, heal and unite the world. Okay, Dr. Bruce Lipton. Great to be with you, Jeff. I'm so honored to be with you because you're making a difference in the world by talking to people and trying to uplift them and that's what it's all about because we need this developmental disorder right now and so thank you for being that clarion call that there's a better way. way, oh man, that's so sweet, yeah, a lot of my conversations these days have revolved around this concept of sixth grade extinction and maybe we'll talk about that, but we'll see what we do.

I can do to slow down that process or be part of the evolution of what's coming next, so I'd rather be part of the evolution that's coming next than part of the evolution that's falling, yeah, well, so I've been saving. sort of a mini portfolio of topics to delve into with you over the years and if anything I'm worried that we won't get to as many of them, but hey, maybe I'll take a moment to set this up and I can go back to some of them. these topics that I'm excited to talk about, so to say that you've been a pioneer in the field of epigenetics is basically an understatement, um uh, and just for clarity for the audience and we'll get into You know some of the work of definition about epigenetics and behavioral epigenetics, but basically this notion that gene expression is modified in response to its environment and there are countless different environmental inputs that can influence the expression of a gene, for example, I recently interviewed this fascinating doctor.

Cara Fitzgerald, part of the emerging field of epinutrition, essentially studies how different foods influence protein coding, but a primary arbiter of gene expression is the belief essentially that

genes

are expressed based on how they are expressed. Humans consciously perceive the world and obviously you have written brilliantly. about how perception shapes biology and in many cases surpasses our conventional understanding of DNA, so obviously this work opens a lot of interesting doors to the nature of consciousness, the placebo effect, quantum physics and maybe we can return to Some of those topics by first examining a very tangible way that people experience the relationship between perception and biology and that is through the experience of fear, which is a pervasive and prescient topic today, given everything that is happening in the world, so maybe let's go back a couple of millennia, so for now.

The vast majority of our human history, Homo sapiens, existed as hunter-gatherers and we evolved certain adaptive phenotypic traits that were combined with searching for food in the sawdust, so 200,000 years ago Bruce and I went out and wandered through the savannah in search for food. to bring back our clan and suddenly a saber-toothed tiger or some strange toad-horned ungulate bursts out of the undergrowth and runs furiously towards

bruce

and me, so as a starting point, can you describe the neurobiological cascade what is it? triggered by the perception of threat, before we even get to the human aspect of this, you have to recognize something called the biological imperative, what the heck is that, and that's the drive to survive, uh and all organisms, this is the point where becomes critical.

It's organisms like the lowest organism, bacteria, are endowed with a biological imperative because if you try to kill a bacteria, it's not going to go, oh, okay, kill me. It will do everything it can to stay alive, so every living organism has a drive to stay. I live well, in that case we also have awareness of what could compromise that life and then we develop an awareness of the scary things that could threaten us, so that if they appear in our world, then we will immediately give a response to protect ourselves. Let me take a moment. before because we could get into this later there are two aspects of the biological imperative of survival of the individual yourself let's say what the meaning is why you know you look for air water food you know shelter and things like that because this keeps us alive.

The second is also very critical because the second part of the biological imperative is the survival not of the individual but of the species, which means that there is an impulse to reproduce to keep the species alive, so we can talk about the individual first, okay. , so it says that when threats come to the environment, the biological imperative is the first to wake you up to the threat, okay, where is it? Well, that's why you said well, in the neural system, I go, we don't even know where it is. and it was there in bacteria before much of a neural system existed, so suddenly you say, "We don't know where it is, but we know it exists and the relevance of that is that we all live by this biological imperative." what protects us, okay and then I say okay, like you said, if a threat is coming, then biology changes its community organization of action from growth to protection and they are mutually exclusive.

I will only give one reason why there is a stimulus that offers growth. You go towards that stimulus and you go with open arms to receive it, assimilating it is growth, it has to be food, it could be love, I don't care, you open up, you go to the stimulus, open up and take it, that is growth. protection, you move away from the threat and close yourself in protection. I guess you can't be in growth and protection at the same time, they are mutually exclusive behaviors, so when we go into protection we close our openness and our growth in the world and begin to see how I can preserve myself in this threat.

Well, I said, well, how does the body respond to this? I think the hypothalamus, which interprets the signals, interprets the fact that there is a threat and when. does that it sends a signal to the pituitary gland the hypothalamus of the brain says oh this is a threatening situation and it sends a signal to the pituitary gland which in high school was called the master gland because its secretions control 20, you know, 50 trillion cells that are in your body and then in a state of threat the pituitary sends a signal to the adrenal glands that in school was called fight or flight and suddenly it says what happens, the adrenal stress hormones go to the body and redirect the system they take. away, uh, the energies that are involved with growth like, the energy is involved with the immune system and I go, why are you looking if you're being chased by a saber-toothed tiger?

The bacterial infection is not your big problem at that moment, it is fine and the immune system. The system uses an enormous amount of energy because when people get sick sometimes they don't even have energy. Get out of bed. So what are we talking about? When we are stressed, we want to allocate all the energy in the body to escape and escape using our arms. and the legs, so I go, your energy is in the blood place, so I go, so what happens when the stress hormones come in? They redirect blood flow and take the blood and send it preferentially to the arms and legs because that's where the energy is.

They are going to activate to get me out of there and I'm going well preferably where I was preferably before the stress I go it was in the intestine the viscera all the organs here I go what were their functions growth maintenance of the body cleaning the system preparing the energy, you know, taking care of the machine, more or less fine, but the moment the stress hormones are released in the body, the blood vessels in the intestine respond to the stress hormones by closing and when they close, that means that the blood is not really going to the intestine, but now it preferentially goes to the arms and legs and that's where we want that energy to work, so stress hormones number one shut down the body's growth mechanisms number two, they turn off the immune system because that's a level high. energy system that is not relevant to an external threat and then number three, which I always call adding insult to injury, is that the blood vessels in the conscious brain are energizing conscious creativity, thinking that you know an action like that, but the conscious brain is very slow. processor compared to the rest of the brain here called the subconscious brain and the subconscious brain is not only extremely fast beyond the conscious brain but it is a million times more powerful so what happens is remember I told you that the blood vessels in The intestine contracts with stress. hormones, that's where people get those butterflies in their stomach, feeling sick because what's happening and the blood vessels are closing, you can feel them and that's the sick feeling, but then the stress hormones go to the brain and do the same thing. same in the conscious blood part of the brain they squeeze the blood vessels to close them, I say it, I am not nourishing or energizing my consciousness, but when I squeeze it to close it, the blood is sent to the back part of the brain where the subconscious has behavioral reactions high reflexes. we accelerate very quickly we become less intelligent when the stress hormones are there because we don't use them, we think we are using reflexes and that is a completely different way of life, so I say what's going on here, I say well, growth, taking care of the body, threat. energy in your arms and legs as best you can and run like hell and get out of there, but by compromising what you're shutting down growth, you're shutting down the immune system and you're shutting down intelligence and I.

Come on, you don't need that to escape the tiger, you just need fast arms, legs and reflexes to make them go, I'm doing well, this is really cool, you know, two hundred thousand years ago, where the only real threat we had was the toothed tiger. saber I'm going so what I'm saying well if you're running away from that saber-toothed tiger and you escape 10 minutes 15 minutes you're gone you're safe then you grow back again keep the body today's world There are so many threats out there we're not taking hormones of stress for 10 minutes, we are taking stress hormones all day and I ask what the consequence is, well, I say that all day long you are inhibiting the mechanism from taking care of itself. and I say that today we have a health crisis.

Yeah, a lot of people until recently were saying, "Oh, the genes, the genes are causing the disease and all this kind of stuff like that scientific fact, less than one percent of the disease is connected." Regarding genetics, I was saying: well, so we have a health crisis, where is all this coming from? And the answer is stress. More than 90 percent of illnesses are directly fraught with stress. Why, because it shuts down the immune system, it stops growth. You're weak and it was just for a short period years and years ago but today that period of stress extends so it's like 24 7. and I say well that's the biggest commitment of life on this planet, the fears and I'm doing fine.

Zero interesting because the media loves to give us all the fears and they manipulate us, so when you watch the news you are just dripping stress hormones through your body, compromising yourself, so it is a point where we have You have to get out of this continuous chronic connection with fear that is everywhere on this planet just watch the news surf the web you know look out the window and you can see this place is crazy and everyone is trying to do what you well know the fear closes you well, you can't survive why because You need to engage with the world and respond to everything, but if you're closing yourself off, you get out and that's where the disease starts to start and it's on all levels, you know, it's like People will think, well, cancer is caused by genes.

I love this as a ready scientific fact, there is not a single gene that causes cancer, there is no gene that causes cancer, they are called oncogenes, cancer genes, they say well because they used to say well, that's the sensible thing that is responsible, uh, your cancer right there. and I say that genes do not cause cancer, what is the result that consciousness will activate those genes if we are not in harmony if we are in a stressful situation, so I say, well, then the gene did not activate and it did. It was consciousness that activated that gene, so, for example, most women are very concerned about what is called the breast cancer chain.

Oh, that's the gene that causes breast cancer. I say it doesn't cause breast cancer. It is associated with breast cancer. Did it cause cancer? cancer no, no, it was activated by a problem and that problem is repressed anger or you know, repressed emotions that were not allowed to be expressed, then you activate the gene that we have been blaming the gene on. I go, no, the gene didn't even do it. This was us and I say, that's the difference, I say, what's the difference, I say, if you think the gene did it, then you're recognizing that you're a victim, my genes there, I had nothingdoes? methods you have at your disposal for perception, so let's say there is a high concentration of serum cortisol, how does the cell know that?

Well, how do we know what's going on in the world? Well, you have eyes, I can see, I have a nose, I can smell, I have ears I can hear taste touch pain temperature I have emotion of love I have emotions of fear I have I have senses of all this I said how would you get them I said I have receptors an eye is a receptor an ear It's a receptor I mean at the cellular level, cells have receptors that are not that complex, but there are proteins like antennas, like television antennas, that are tuned to different frequencies of what's happening, so a cell in your skin it has receptors just like a human being has receptors in its eyes, ears, nose integrated into its skin to read the environment so the cell needs to read the environment to be able to adjust its behavior to survive the biological imperative what is the behavior that I need in this environment I say well, what is this environment?

I said well I have to read it to have all these receptors Well the brain sends signals that respond to those receptors and so they determine what signals will be released into the blood and they go to the cell and the cell has receptors like the ones we have on your skin read the environment and then adjust their behavior and the meaning of this is that here comes the critical part: an amoeba lives in the outside world in a pond. Well, I say well, since an amoeba is a single cell that is reading. The world around you fits that world, but then I go, what happens to my liver cells?

I'm going to wait a minute, well, it's supposed to respond to the world. I'm going, yes, but he's inside, how the hell does he know what's going on outside? Because I have to adjust my cells on the inside to match what's happening on the outside, that's where, suddenly, something new is introduced. There is an environment and the cell that will respond to the signals, but the cells are not in the environment so that they can I don't see it, I mean well, how do you see it? I say that the brain reads the environment and then sends the appropriate signals to the cell to control its function and stay alive in that environment.

Everything is fine except this, we can interpret that environment, so two. people can receive exactly the same signals but have totally different behavior depending on their experiences, so the point is that my liver cell has no idea what the hell is going on outside except that it takes the signal from the brain and if it's a individual who is afraid, then the signals that come from the brain are the stress hormones and they say: "prepare to fight or flee", but the same person sitting next to them receives exactly the same signals and reads them totally differently and says No, okay, I'll go, then the liver cell and that person.

I'm not afraid and suddenly I say well, the behavior of the cells in person is different from the behavior and yet we are in the same environment, I said well, how did that happen? Correct interpretation and culture, it is like that. fascinating because you know, if a snake slithered across the floor here in the studio, it might fight or flee, in fact, I would because my father had an incredible fear of snakes and he taught me that behavior, but in some cultures or e.g. , there was a I don't remember what the snake experts called it, herbology, herpetologist, herpetologist, yeah, um, if that person could clearly identify that that snake was not poisonous, that's true, so both these guys, the herpetologist and the another guy walking. on the same sidewalk, the snake encounters totally different, totally different behaviors and then I say, but one of them is a stress response and the other one is a knowing response, oh yeah, look at that snake, I'm very familiar with that one. snake, blah, blah, blah.

I can lift it I can hold it I'm not afraid you, on the other hand, you will run like hell if the snake even comes close to you I make the same sign totally different answer why I learned they were learned like you said your father brought that concept of fear into your world you bought it and now you're afraid of snakes, yeah, so let's say, uh, yeah, I recently interviewed a brilliant guy, I'm sure you know him, uh, friend Gabor, so speak up, oh yeah, brilliant guy, just oh man, um. and you know, he talks a lot about trauma-inducing events that are then concomitant with disease, so let's say abuse or neglect, how do we ourselves recognize abuse or neglect and how does that change the protein synthesis mechanism, for example? , our abuse? and neglect or a trauma-inducing event causes like DNA methylation, so that certain genes are not expressed or are expressed, can you unravel that mechanism for me?

Yeah, well, I basically said, well, the nucleus of the cell has genes. Genes are programs we used to think about. they were read-only you have this gene you have that program nothing you can do about it now we know that epigenetics says that genes are not read correctly I can read the gene but I can also alter the gene I say why because as environments change I have to adjust my self and my behavior to survive in that environment if it's a threatening environment I'm going to have to make some kind of protective mechanism to stay alive uh versus if it's a healthy environment that's a totally different behavior and I mean well how?

I learn these things also from the experiences that you have, but also the most important thing as you mentioned and is this really critical? In the beginning we download other people's experiences and I'll give you a simple reason, just simple, not in the old days. like today, you would go to the store and buy a computer and I say computer because the brain is a computer, so I'm going to make a parallel here, you bought a new computer, you took it home, you plugged it in, you pushed start the screen turns on it's booted up it's ready to go I have a new computer I say okay now do something write a story draw a picture you know how to surf the web you say I can't do it I say you have a new computer let's say first I have to put programs on the computer and then I can access the programs without programs on the computer.

I have the screen on but nothing, there is nowhere to go, there is nothing, there is no program, so the child's brain is a computer, the screen on that The child's brain starts in the last trimester of pregnancy and I say, okay, use this brain, I go, there are no programs, I can't use it, so I said, ah, the first seven years of a child's life, the machine brain mechanism is designed to download programs, I said where. Did you get the programs? I said ah, the first seven years of your life you are in a state of hypnosis.

I'm going, so what I'm saying, whoever you focus on, you're going to download their behavior like a video recorder. You focus on your mother. your dad, your brothers, you focus on the community, you see how they do things, I go and not only did you see how they did things, you recorded how they did things, so the idea is this, now that I have some programs, I can participate in those programs and I will behave, but now there is just one more problem here and that is that most of the programs that we have downloaded from mainstream psychology are programs that take away our power, you know, limit us in our ability, They self-sabotage. us and these are programs that we downloaded in the first seven years.

The meaning is clear, the conscious mind was not functioning when the shocks came. So what is relevant, I say, well, the conscious mind can review and say this is a good program this is a bad program I say without conscious mind all the programs were downloaded good programs bad programs it turns out that about 60 percent of the behavioral programs that we download by observing family and community are behaviors that disempower us, I go Jesus, you know our programs are sabotaging us, we don't choose those programs, we just download them, okay and I'll go, but what? what are these programs?

Because they control our lives. I go, they control your life. I'm going, yeah, remember, I said the first seven years is downloading a program, but. after the age of seven and this is an important fact of science 95 of our behavior in life does not come from the creative conscious mind which is the one that has desires and desires I said Jeff, tell me what you want from life, that is a thought creative, you say, oh, I want health, I want a great relationship, I want a good job blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that's great and then I say it's that conscious mind that will lead you to manifest things.

I go five percent of the day, that's how much because 95 is read directly into the programs, yes, but if 60 of those programs take away your power, then 95 of the day, 60 of them you are sabotaging yourself and then you say , oh well, I would see if it was attractive behavior that sabotages me. go, no you won't, I'll go, what do you mean? I said, why are you playing these programs when you have a conscious mind that is a creative mind that can manifest what you want and the monkey wrench in the game is this and this is the most. important wrench and that is what the conscious mind that has desires and desires and can guide you to those destinations can also think I go I think I said what I said consider your body as a vehicle with a steering wheel when the conscious mind has its hands on the steering wheel it is looking out the window and driving us towards the desires, driving us towards the desires, I am doing great, but if the conscious mind is thinking, it is no longer looking out the window, why is there a thought inside, you want to think, go into your head. you have to think you can close your eyes you can think more easily with your eyes closed well I'm going inside I'm going well if you go inside and you think then you're not looking outside I'm going that's the problem because I give you a simple example where the biggest problem could be I say that you are driving your car with your conscious mind I'm going to go here and I'm going to turn in this place I'm going to do all this in your driving and all that but what happens if you start thinking well oh wow when I get to the store I'm going to buy this and I'm going to buy that and I say oh are you thinking I said at that moment you're not looking I go out through the windshield, you drive the car, you're not looking through the windshield, I go, don't worry, the subconscious has a program to drive the car because it was a habit you picked up, so I guess what the timing will be.

I'm thinking I stop looking out the window, the subconscious is the autopilot, it will take the wheel and drive me, but it won't take me to my wants and desires, conscious mind, it will take me to whatever direction I downloaded the behavior if they have a problem in his behavior and when I'm not paying attention I'm playing that mistake, do I see it? Not because I'm not even looking at the damn window so whatever behavior I'm playing when I think I'm the one who can't see it and that's why for 40 years I tell the same story so here's 41 years.

I go, what do I say? You have a friend and you know your friend's behavior very well and it turns out that you know it. your friend's father and one day you see that your friend has exactly the same behavior as his parents about you, you just have to tell them hey Bill, you are like your father, stay away from Bill, I can tell you exactly what Bill is going to say the first time time. bill smith thing i know he's going to say how can you compare me to my dad? I'm nothing like my dad, the audience laughs why I go to personal experiences, do you understand what that story just said, the deep point and I was what Bill has behavior exactly the same as his father .

I said where he got it from. I said for the first seven years he downloaded it. He was in the state of uh theta, which is hypnosis. He unloaded his father's behavior on him. I mean, but then when he's playing it, I said why. Is he acting out his father's behavior and suddenly he says oh why isn't he paying attention? So I say that whatever behavior is arising was not from the conscious mind that he was busy thinking, so whatever behavior he is acting out when he is not paying attention. it's from the program he received from his father, so he plays his father's program, he doesn't see it, so he doesn't see it because he is aware that he is not looking at the behaviors looking inward, but everyone else sees it and if that behavior is not a very supportive behavior so it is actually undermining his life without him even knowing it, it was his invisible behavior that was sabotaging him but he didn't see it and I wonder what the result of that would be. as a result I have desires and desires to go here and it doesn't manifest and then I have to say oh that person interfered with me I am a victim for this that is happening I am a victim I am a victim and I am going to guess what you have taken away your power because now you claim that your life is being controlled by external forces without recognizing it.

No, it was your unconscious behavior that was playing out 95 percent of the day and you didn't see it except everyone else. Are we creating this? Okay, now the important story here is Bill's story. We are all Bill. Each of us 95 times a day are playing shows because that's what the average person thinks and if he's thinking, then. are playingprograms that they are not even aware of because it is unconscious behavior that controls them, not conscious behavior, okay, so I say this is the problem of the world because we have all perceived that we all have great things. desires and desires and they do not manifest those of us who do not look at ourselves say oh, they these people caused the problem well, you took away your power because you say I have no power I am a victim of those people, I go, no, you created Those situations that led to your own self sabotage, we all do this all the time and the unfortunate part is that we are not aware of what we just said, the average person says it's not up to me, I'm a victim of the world.

All around me, man, I wanted to be successful, it's not working, all these other people did this and it's like no, you have to understand that we do it ourselves and we don't watch these shows. Let me help you with one last thing at this point. I got these programs before I was seven, okay, I said, guess what they were programming you, that computer of yours was getting downloads when even before you were born, the last trimester of pregnancy, you were learning, okay, you learned, uh, during your entire first year of life, from zero to one. you were in a state of recording behaviors, okay, tell me the program you got from zero to one, it's like I didn't know, I wasn't there, I got there okay, how was your program? a whole year from one to two, what programs did you do? go and then go, I don't know, I wasn't there because my conscience didn't even kick it until later, so the point is that for at least the first three years you have been programmed with programs that control your life and you personally have I don't have idea what the hell those programs are, why you weren't aware when you downloaded them, so now we have a problem and we said, shit, my life is run by programs, I don't even know what they are, now I'm leaving. to help for a minute with that, let's help solve this and it says just like this and it basically says this the things that you like and they come into your life the things that oh look, I'm so happy look these things come here they came in because you have a program to accept those things recognize those things but and this is the capital cunt underlined in bold the things you work hard for fights you sweat for I'm going to make it I'm going to do this, I'm putting a lot of effort into this, baby, I'm working really hard to make this happen , why are you working so hard? and the answer and this beautiful part, any program you have does not support that destination and what you are trying.

What you have to do is cancel the programs because you are not successful you say I am going to work hard and I am going to make this happen, I am going to have a lot of problems here because the conscious creative mind that can make those things happen is not relative in mathematics to the subconscious mind and I mean the subconscious mind is a million times more powerful and works 95 percent of the time versus the little conscious mind that works five percent. I said that's the one who's stressed. that's the one who's struggling says I want something and I can't get it and I'm going to get it and I say: you're trying to change the world when your own behavior was what was sabotaging it and that's because you I didn't watch your shows and like Bill , you participate in these shows and you don't even know you have these shows, but like I said well, if you want to watch your shows, your life 95 comes from the show, your life is a printout of your shows, the things you like, like I said , they come, they came in because you have a program to recognize them, but whether you understand the things you fight for or not because the outside prevents you from getting there, it was your own invisible 95 of the day playing programs that you didn't even know you had and that's where the sabotage and yet we want to blame and fix everyone on the outside and think that we are just the recipients of all this without recognizing that we are the creators of all this and that sounds like oh, so new age and I'm going to

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to quantum physics is the most valid science on this planet and the number one principle of quantum physics consciousness is creating our life experiences you want to change your life, you don't change the world you change your own consciousness, the world changes after that, so, beyond that point, this notion of a kind of bottom-up behavior or subconscious behavior that, as you say, dominates 95 of our lives, essentially the equivalent of pressing the turn signal that you know in your car, but and that's an example relatively banal and prosaic, but you can press the turn signal in your life and you may suddenly know that you are going in the wrong direction and this could be associated with oh, I don't know like limiting

beliefs

or maybe you had a parent who essentially told you. said you weren't good enough and you spend your whole life trying to please and be and fit in and well that made you stop for a second, you spent your whole life consciously wanting to please and changing the conscious mind but not recognizing well, that's a great thought, but that is not what you are manifesting because 95 of the time you are manifesting the problem that you think you want to nullify.

Yeah, so what's the key? Recognizing some of the more harmful bottom-up behaviors and being aware of them and being able to direct conscious attention so that we do not fall prey to this programming and have the opportunity to reprogram our lives into greater alignment with our desires and desires. yeah, you know what's interesting, most people have seen the movie Matrix and it falls under the science fiction category. I'm not going to The Matrix is ​​a documentary because the premise is that everyone has been well programmed. That is not a premise. Is a reality. Everyone here had to have been programmed by him.

The first seven years is the only way you can be here, but in the story they said you could take a blue pill and when you take the blue pill you wake up and the program runs as usual, so life is exactly the same. It always has been, but then they offer you to take a red pill and you exit the program. I say, oh, which one would it be? Know? Is there an equivalent to a red pill? I mean, yeah, and almost everyone has experience, probably even you, Jeff and I say what is it and I say when we fall in love immediately after that moment of experiencing love, your life changes, you could have blah, blah, blah, blah, all the days you meet this person, you fall in love 24 hours later, you say, oh, life is like that. beautiful everything is great the food is great the music is great the sex goes beyond everything I love this is great I love my life I go you have blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and then, 24 hours later, you had heaven in the Earth, what happened, biologists have recognized it, done. the equivalent of the red pill when you fall in love you stop thinking what do you mean? stop thinking I say stay present the words are stay attentive I say what does that mean? stop thinking that you are engaged right now in the present moment I am actively engaged in the present moment I am not thinking about the future past I am here I control I go oh then stop playing a program I go fine yes, where did the subconscious program come from 95 of the times 60 bad Well, I said, well, what happened?

You stopped playing the programming, so you stopped playing with the subconscious. So I said, well, who controls? Now I go to the conscious mind. It used to be five percent, but you fall in love. It is more than 90. It comes from the conscious. What are those wishes? and wishes I go what did you manifest wishes and desires the honeymoon heaven on earth life experience I know that was not an accident it was not a coincidence it was that you stopped playing the program and began to live from the conscious mind which are the desires and The desires and heaven manifested on earth were always there, they were always there, except if you only use that mind five percent of the day, it's really difficult to experience that, but if you can use it 90% of the day, then your life It really is now. heaven on earth it's a honeymoon and suddenly I say then what is the meaning of this and the answer was that it is the programs that have distanced us from health and vitality and harmony and peace and love and yes you stop playing those programs then for that moment you stop, actually now you are the creator of your life and what will you create, have it on earth because that's what everyone wants, that's what you will get, yes, very interesting, so , you know, when I think about our five senses. and in a sense we are pre-programmed to perceive ourselves as separate from the world, yes, and you know, especially when you create this substrate of seven-year programming, that you know our eyes and you know everything that they teach us. identify yourself in the foreground and not in the background, etc. and all the labeling that then happens from you know the most banal type of labeling to then get to well, there's someone of a different sexual orientation or a political affiliation or whatever and inherent to that process is labeling myself as something separate of the world and that is what I generally consider the ego, the symbol that I actually give myself to navigate, navigate the world, and when you talk about love, I associate love a lot. with a state of being um similar to what the Buddha said about awakening um which is an epiphany or really a mystical experience which is a sense of non-separation of integrated consciousness and we feel that many times in love or even in this conversation where I am completely absorbed in every word you are saying, I am here and now and any feeling I ever had of being a separate self has completely dissipated because I am literally with all of you there and of course I experienced that. with my children and I experienced that with my community from time to time and this is encoded in many Sanskrit words that I know as mudita, like this idea of ​​joy simply for the joy of another person or karuna, the type of compassion that identifies the suffering of another person. as yours, you know these ideas that were these states of being where we don't feel like the ego, where we don't feel separate, where I guess we're not connected and directed by this programming where we essentially have an awakening. .

Yeah, well, a lot of it has to do with something called mirror neurons, and I mean, what are mirror neurons? They watch other people and get a sense of their emotions or whatever they're experiencing and suddenly they say that sounds very familiar to me. We have experienced the same thing and, therefore, when we observe someone who is sad and we have been sad in the past, when we see them, our mirror neuron reproduces to us that they are feeling the same thing that we would feel when we are sad or when they are angry, so we say oh yeah, that's the same thing that I feel, that's what connects us with all the other individuals in the group to recognize that we all share these kinds of experiences like this, and it's really so important, I mean, it's it's much more primitive, I mean dogs hanging in a pack, how did they get a leader, I said how do dogs do this, they don't talk like us and I say no, they follow the leader because they know what the leader is doing. because they have done it themselves and then, by following the leader, they know how to adapt their behavior to fit and match the leader's behavior.

Let's go after this. Let's go here. I look at that leader. He's fine, we do it ourselves. like you just said, when you see someone you know experiencing what you've experienced, then you have a sense of compassion, okay, they're hurting you, can you, oh, I know how they feel, why did I get hurt like that and this. it allows us to connect with each other because we recognize that we see each other more or less with different people and we know what they're going through and if it's something you don't want to go through, then you're going to be compassionate and say I want to help you get out just because I don't want to be there.

With you, a type of thing like this that unites the community is observing other people but knowing who or what they are because you have done it yourself and this connects us. I don't have to talk to you. I could just look at you and know what you are experiencing. Well, and then, if it's something you're sad about. And I said, "You know how I feel." that sadness I don't want to be sad let's do something different and then help them do something different you can help them get out of sadness that's how it works well I can't help someone get out of sadness if I don't I even know they're sad so That the first thing is that I have to experience what they are experiencing and this is a significant level of how we communicate with each other.

The non-verbal had nothing to do with the verbal, you didn't have to ask them. anything, just look at them, the vibration, the energy, you will feel it because when you have that energy, it creates an experience in you. When you see that they have that energy, you say, oh, I know what you're going through, I've had that myself, yeah. We often draw this imaginary line between the internal and external world saying this is all that's going on out there and this is me here, but even this experience that we're having right now, I mean, I'm really just

listen

ing to waves with a certain amplitude and frequency in the air that you're creating through kinetic energy by moving your lips essentially and that's going through all this technology, but it's and then you know, vibrating my eardrum and these little bones in myoh, I don't want to wait until the end, man, my mom remarried when she was relatively old and she married this guy who was, I said, a grumpy guy, he wasn't really a happy guy or anything, he lived until 95 96 or something like that.

He had cancer, my mother took care of him at home the last week of his life, he essentially wasn't there, he was just in a coma more or less in bed and then two days before he died, suddenly his eyes went dark. they opened. there and he looked at my mom and said I didn't have any fun and all of a sudden I just said, shit, he's going to die in two days and he woke up today, he didn't have any fun, I said that's not me. Baby, because when it's over it'll be great, let's do it again, well I'll say if there's one thing you know how to do, it's have fun, Mr.

Lipton, let me tell you, Jeff, I've gone a lot of years without it and once I started. recognize it and how come I didn't have it and how I was able to get it by changing my consciousness and my program and then ending with honestly I live heaven on earth, that means everything I want happens like no, but you know what? that doesn't happen, I won't carry it anymore, I don't care, I'll move on to the next thing and as a result I don't worry about things not working right and all that, yeah. I mean, I think you know you pointed out this earlier in the conversation, this mindfulness notion of non-judgmental presence here and now in the eternal now and we're distracted most of the time focusing on the trauma of the past and then projecting. that in the future as a kind of anticipated negative memory um that uh we spend a lot of our lives no here we are somewhere else well that's why I said the conscious mind is not even present the conscious mind is thinking about the past or thinking about the future, but it's not like you just said here, well, I know we're both refugees from the music industry or the music business or as musicians, and you know some of my most epiphanic moments have been lost in certain way. um in music in the creation of music, whether by myself or in conjunction with others, and it's that cognitive absence and that absolute yoke of action and intention um, you know, it's the, I think a lot of people call it flow state. , but it's, um, this, uh, you know, it's the mystical Jeff, it's a honeymoon and I have to emphasize this very clearly because when you say honeymoon immediately oh, that's a relationship with another person, I go, it doesn't have than to be with someone else, you could be a chef and you become so involved in the kitchen that your joy and happiness is there, you are present, you are not thinking, you are involved in present moment awareness, it could be gardening, it could be making music, so on. that the idea is that it's unfortunate because I use the honeymoon because many people have actually had that experience where life changed profoundly within them. hours after meeting someone else and I go there, there is a reason for that, but it doesn't have to be with a person like you just mentioned and it's very clear and very important, you can play music and you will be somewhere on divine land.

Otherwise, man, it's not here with these problems, you're creating another experience and that's a honeymoon, yeah, I mean, I watch my daughters dance, for example, and when they dance without an audience or without awareness of the audience , there are absolutely 100 there and you know. Alan Watts often says you don't dance to finish the routine, otherwise the best dancer would be the fastest, true, there are some impressive fast dancers, you dance to dance and we can live to live and love, love and wash the dishes. just to wash the dishes, you know it as tiknot han, you know it's always fun and you mentioned it because a long time ago when people were like, well

bruce

, do you meditate? and I say no, I don't have any formal meditation or anything, but then a concept occurred to me, you know, I love washing dishes, I understand why it doesn't make sense, it's a procedure, b, rub warm water on your hands , feeling the warm water, it's very nice and all that, and I went in, it was an opportunity. letting the world go by doing something routine that you didn't have to think about doing and as long as you were free to think then you were free to do it, it was a meditation meditation, you are free, think of something in Chinese, there is this notion of mushin, so shin se extracts, but it's a kind of heart mind and then mushin is like mindless and uh, it's very much associated with um way or not forcing um, it just works spontaneously with intuition, not intuition, like a kind of instinct similar to like my Instinct told me what to do. doing it is nothing more than a kind of refined skill of knowing how to apply the rudder on the river in such a way that you are harnessing the power of the water course or applying the sail and tacking with the wind perfectly and I think for me you know that That is living. with the dao of refining this intuition to be there where you can seamlessly interact interdependently with this emerging world and that to me is spirituality, it is a process as if God were not material, he is not something, he is not an old man and a hat cup and something like that. cosmic panopticon with a sex manual, you know, with an abacus that judges your transgressions, you know, that's a form of delusional prophecy, it really is for me, anyway, I study nature deeply, so that I can understand the patterns of the metaphysical within the physical and focus my attention.

It is such that I am aligned with that flow, that is the basic view. I did the same. I was looking at the cells. I was looking at nature, but interpreting what that experience was and then saying I could do that once I started doing it. when I understood the nature of my power to manifest my reality versus the programmed reality that was placed on me, you know, this whole idea of ​​programming is nothing new, you know, it's like 400 years, the Jesuits have said to their followers, give me a child until he is seven years old. and I'll show you the man they knew exactly what we just said scientifically seven years download the program rest of life 95 coming from the program they knew it from the beginning but then they were the first to go, wait a minute, what if we programmed that? child for the first seven years and suddenly it's like, oh my God, the first manipulation and it's become so much more invasive and powerful when you can see a baby walking around, he can barely walk and he's carrying an ipad, but there's some programming going on. . here friends and this is what we have to be aware of, yes, this notion of structural structuralism where we feel like we shape the world, but when we examine it more closely, the world often shapes the self and I think this It's part of having the The great awakening is realizing where it's been like that and finding our ways to essentially be in the here and now, so that we don't fall prey to this preprogramming, right?

You know, there's been a lot of things. . of scientific paradigm shifts in the last 500,600 years, from I guess geocentrism to the Earth orbiting the sun or the miasma theory, which was the theory of disease prevalence during the Black Death, for example, and then migrating to this kind of contentious thing between Pasteur and germ theory and um and beschamp and terrain theory, which is something I would love to explore with you at some point and, of course, from Newtonian physics to Einstein and Planck and quantum physics and then basically how you've altered the scientific paradigm. from genetic determinism to epigenetics and where do you think we are now on this spectrum in terms of how humans understand the world?

Yes, well, a very simple fact: we are facing what is called the sixth mass extinction of life and I say there are five. The previous ones, of course, things that were natural like earthquakes, tectonic plate movements, the last one, the last mass extinction, was 66 million years ago, when a comet collided near the Yucatan Peninsula, a giant comet, and ended with the web of life and 75 percent of life disappeared at that time includes all the dinosaurs that never came back, okay, and today we are in what is called the sixth mass extinction and the reason why this area is so different is that it is caused by our own human behavior, our behavior is undermining the web of life.

We do not live in harmony with the planet, we are separating ourselves by saying that the planet is something that we have dominion over and that we can control. I mean, who the hell do you think you are? You are a piece of this nature, you are not the self the boss of nature and to live with that belief that we can control nature, which was a mission statement of science, how is that control working well? We are becoming extinct because what we learned is not in harmony with the support it gives us, so basically this is a wake-up call to humans and I say: learn to live in harmony with nature or kiss goodbye, I say oh , is that within a thousand years and no, within the next decades civilization will face what NASA scientists have identified as irreversible collapse that means it is a collapse with no turning back because that return is what caused the problem that is advancing that we are asked to do at this moment nature is giving us a wake-up call it says that we cannot learn to live in harmony within a couple of decades industrial civilization is going to totally collapse and you will not do it, everything this is going to fall apart immediately so it's a wake up call and the wake up call is for us to take responsibility for our lives on this planet and that's why this wake up call of I'm not a victim becomes important because when You are a victim so you can let it all fall apart and say I have no responsibility. a victim of all this, I go, no, you are the creator of all this, there is no way to escape that fact, but if you understand that you are the creator, then that is the option to stop creating the hell we live in and start creating the sky. that we want, that's the responsibility we face right now and nature says, well, you're short on time, I'll give you a warning, in fact, science has been telling the public for 15 years that we are in this extinction. and people are so worried about everything else that they don't pay attention to the main issue of human civilization: we are going to become extinct because we are not in harmony and jeff, you know you mentioned that the first thing to do is to be a musician, it is harmony and you know, band that doesn't have any harmony, no one is going to play and go see that band, yeah, and an isolated note on its own isn't going anywhere, it's only when it's in relation to another note or a group of notes where you really get harmony. and I think in this era of self-isolation, division, polarization and atomization, closed systems degenerate into entropy, we know that so we can recognize ourselves as part of this web of life or you know nature is relatively neutral, it will just select life, so maybe it really is the next one after this extinction, maybe it seems like you know only 500 million humans, I mean of course, like you know, I don't want to model on that, you know, um, but maybe there's a bigger . evolved humanity or life on the other side of this thing, I don't know, this is what we're moving towards right now, this is the rebirth and the science that says, hey, you know well the

beliefs

that you built your life on , most of them are wrong and now we have new science we have quantum physics we have epigenetics we have fractal geometry we have these new visions I say wait a minute we were not seeing it correctly and this is a correction factor you are going to see it correctly well, you have it some few decades a couple of decades and if you do we're going to prosper in the future and if you don't then just kiss it goodbye because it's coming to an end, yeah, well, dr.

Bruce Lipton, I'll be there. holding your hand and this uh well we will be dancing at that point we will be dancing in an effort to try to get humanity to understand itself as an interconnected network or what Buddhists call the web of indra that you know we are part of this emerging spontaneous world that arises in a dependent way that there is no such thing as a completely disarticulated individual now that you have studied, you have studied human cells, so if you were to look at my hand and study it at the cellular level, I love your description of your By the way, it's my first experience with an electron microscope, but anyway, if you studied my hand at the cellular level, you could look at every cell and all the space around it, but you would never recognize this as anything other than a hand, you know, and this is I think One of the great dilemmas of relativity theory is that we all exist as sentient individuals and we are distinct but we are in no way disjointed and I think this is kind of the transition that we have to go through from this. from a form of focus consciousness to a form of focus consciousness like our friend Anita Morgani describes and this is a difficult task because you know, as you say, we are very culturally programmed in a hyper-individualistic world and we have these particular sensory organs that They make us feel so separate and that's why your work is so important because it can wake people up, it can literally cause a spiritual U-turn in someone's life and then all of a sudden they're effusive and animated and full of energy and connect and create that constructive energy that you talk about and, thereforeOf course, man, that's the best kind of virus, well for me, Jeff, this is you know well, I have a message that I also emphasize, but you are an important component of this evolutionary change because you have an audience where you can offer them more powerful ideas. about who they really are and get out of this victim mode because when you get out of this victim mode and become the creator, I can tell you that there is nothing more exciting than being a human on planet Earth that is part of the entire network of life and experience in that positive way, so I just want to thank you for allowing me to have the platform for a while, but I need to thank you because you have come together. the necessary people who will take this information and collectively we can create that world we talk about, it is paradise on earth.

I hate it when people you know ruin their lives like my ex stepdad who goes all the way and says oh I missed it, it's too late man, don't miss it, it's here, it's the most beautiful experience you can imagine to be human, but not if you buy the programs and get lost in the manipulation of control and then I've lost the power and you've lost the joy and now it's a job and I don't see life as a job, I think life is a reward, you know , it's like, wow, we can live here, are you kidding me, this is it? beautiful yeah it's like America I want to say thank you thank you thank you to our audience again because it's with them when we do this collectively that the world becomes something completely different and it's a wake up call and you're here to deliver some answers and hope in this wake up call, so I need to thank you for offering this to the public and our audience that is listening because they themselves are the elements of evolution and when they understand it, the world understands it, it will be heaven. on earth, which is actually what it's supposed to be, so thank you, dr. bruce

lipton

, thank you very much, it will continue, I hope so many topics have been covered and so many others that I would love to delve into at a future date, so the beautiful part If we have a future, yes, we appreciate it, thank you, thank you for watching.

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