Jeremy Corbyn expresses support for Gary Lineker | LBC

but let's get to Jeremy Corbyn, former union leader, big Arsenal

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er, of course, yes, sitting in the studio next to me, okay, so is the BBC right to suspend him, yes or no, wrong, completely wrong , right, you have a perfect right to express an opinion, um. Even within the BBC's own code, they are allowed to express opinions as long as it is not overly partisan in nature, but I think it has no bearing on their area of ​​work. His area of ​​work is sports. Others Alan Sugar and many others have made the most of it. partisan comments in the past against you, against me, yes, among others, among others, but against me in particular, I remember it very, very well and absolutely nothing was done despite the complaints that were made to the BBC, they have dropped like a ton of bricks.

Gary Lineker and whilst I

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what Gary said and I think he is a decent human being in the way he expressed it and said it, unfortunately the whole debate is now shifting towards Gary and the BBC and ignoring the topic of this piece which I think which is shameful. legislation from parliament on Monday's debate are small notes, well, let's get to that too. In this interview we have Amberaj, the former Home Minister, talking about it later in the show, so the two are linked. Of course, but he also asked me. I started this program talking about the language that the government used Sue Ella Bravaman, the Secretary of the Interior when she proposed this bill, you know, I mean, what is the right word, strong language, abrasive language, some would call it extreme, language which she spoke of. 100 million people who want to come to this country, you know, the whole stopping the boats thing, as it was written in capital letters on the lectern specially made by the prime minister for his presentation of the bill, is about the force of language as a means of deterrence to tell people who want to get on a boat not to bother doing this because they will not end up in Paradise;

They will end up in a detention center and possibly return from where they came from so the force of language is part of the problem here, isn't it? I went to Cali last month and met people who had arrived by truck walking from Afghanistan from Iraq from Syria from Libya from Sudan and many other places, totally desperate people. not listening to the speeches of swella Bravo and all the others so that Terence does not work you are saying that they have no idea what is said in this country they are more interested in how they are going to get a glass of water and how they will feed themselves and They will be desperate to find a place to live, but you know, the asylum seekers who come here and eventually, hopefully, they will get their documents and so on, tomorrow they will be our doctors, our teachers. our lawyers, our engineers, etc., why can't we have a sense of humanity towards absolutely desperate people?

You or I wouldn't get on a leaky dengue to cross the serpentine. They risk everything because they believe this country will do it. at least treat them fairly and appropriately, given that you don't like the language used by the government again. I return to that question. Gary Lineker uses the correct language when he knows when he opted for the nuclear option and yes, this. is lit, this is literally the last resort kind of comparison: you compare someone to the Nazis, well, whoever used you knows you're in a different realm. I'm sure, I think you have to be very careful when comparing things to Nazis.

The Holocaust was the most vile thing that has ever happened in our history, however I would just like to draw attention to the fact that it was Joan Salter, who is a Holocaust survivor, who drew the parallel between the language used by the central office and hateful language. used by the Nazis during their essence of power in Germany in the 1920s and 1930s, so let me ask you basically, so with the language he used in her tweet, are you with Gary Lineker, yes or no? I'm with Gary, yes, he is fine, and how? If the BBC handles this well, I think they should reinstate him and let him continue his excellent job presenting match of the day and accept that he has an opinion that differs from that of the government and his previous interlocutor, Charlie from Fulham, who was saying that If I had supported the government, this would have happened well, obviously not.

Yes, we have two people running the BBC, the chairman and the director general, both tougher, they put it very closely associated with the Conservative party. What we need is a public service. broadcast yes, we need it to be independent, obviously, but we also need it to be accessible and representative of the entire country, but you know, when it comes to language and the correct use of language, you know the correct use, the use of nuances, I mean you yourself are in trouble the Labor party got in trouble for their alleged antisemitism, that's also about perceptions and you're paying the price for that because you can't stand as a Labor MP in the next election so you know about the use of language the use of language is very, very important did you make a mistake there? um I don't think I did what I was doing, but the party things that you did, the party that you've served for decades some people in the party um I don't agree with that on a lot of things, particularly other political views that I have, but first of all, I think that antisemitism is a violent and evil thing and the language I used was that an antisemite in the Labor Party is an antisemite too.

A lot of them weren't given publicity, I think they actually were, and I think they were even on this show, so it's been, you know, the BBC being accused of caving in to the right-wing press and this government. . The Labor party has given in on issues like immigration, on issues like strikes, yes, because I think that, um, the response given by the Labor front of swallowing the Brahman statement in Parliament earlier this week, what happened with the process and its alleged failures, etc. In my opinion, he did not show the empathy that should be shown towards desperate people and also allowed the numbers to be exaggerated.

Seventy thousand people came to Asylum last year through this means, a figure that is less than the number of people who attend a football match in a country of 65 million inhabitants and they have to be desperate to even put themselves in that danger. Can't we work with other European countries? Work with the United Nations. Work with human rights and refugee councils to give people a safe route afterwards. We all spent 20 years in Afghanistan, 10 years in Iraq, many of these people come from countries where we have sent troops there, but the point is that humanity towards asylum seekers has gone out of fashion, hasn't it?

I mean, in France, you know? Even in Germany, which has taken in a large number of people compared to us and is selective, so there is enormous compassion for Ukrainians, yes, there is less compassion for some Afghans, especially those who serve the British forces, there is much less compassion for Somalis or Eritreans. In fact, there is a terrible double standard among workers. I absolutely support and welcome Ukrainian refugees from this country and they should be treated properly and in general we should have the same attitude towards all other refugees. Why do people leave their homes and run enormous danger to try to get to safety?

History is going to be very cruel to the politicians of the early 21st century who descended into this appalling rhetoric against people seeking safety. , let's finish and I know you're running out of time and I have to go, but let's finish with some quick questions: how damaged is the BBC by all of this? Extremely damaged in public perception at a very dangerous time for them due to, after all, full license renewal and everything else that will come in the next few years. I think it is extremely damaged. Is there a way back for Gary Lineker? I think Gary Lineker should be reinstated immediately to present match of the day.

Gary Lineker is a bigger figure. I'm not saying he's bigger than the BBC, but he's very big and the BBC should realize that. And what about Tim Davey, the director general of the BBC? I think he should go. I don't think he ever should have been named. too far from his own Richard Sharp, the chairman of the BBC, in the same way they should all go, they should both go and there should be much more independent and credible figures addressing the BBC to show that it really is a broadcaster independent public service and then this is you know, for my own friends' colleagues of mine who work for the BBC, you know they feel very conflicted about all of this, so it's a complicated position, what do you say?

You know your run-of-the-mill BBC foot soldier who's out there, you know, paid? for the license fee, not with a huge salary, trying to do their job. I support them. Job. I have many people in my constituency working at the BBC. I have a lot of time for them, but I think the solidarity shown by Ian Wright. and others towards Gary Lineker is significant and very important this is a turning point in the public debate on refugees can you win the next election in your constituency where you have been winning elections for decades without being a member of the Labor party?

I'm not going to answer the question of if I run like, in what and with what label? But I'm pretty sure he could win an election in Islington North, yes.