Trump lawyer indicted for elector fraud after admitting it on live TV

This month is actually the first time Americans have seen a former president stand trial. Trump at the defendants' table with his

lawyer

s, including a prominent Boris Epstein, a veteran of the White House and the Trump campaign who has become a centerpiece of Trump's activities since 2020. He was in court with Trump, as you see there, along with the main Defense Council, two days in a row, just as he was at the defense table at that first arraignment in New York. His job as Trump's quarterback comes after he joined and led many different efforts throughout the process. 2020 attacking the election results that showed Trump lost and we have been reporting on those efforts for years, including how, contrary to initial impression, they involved not only primarily violence on January 6, but a series of other plots during those months and paperwork and election

fraud

and We have pressed Epstein on his role in those efforts, as well as on his legal views, which of course are relevant since he is involved in all of this and now here we are in this extremely busy week, as he He's there, you see him working on his phone. with the top

lawyer

trying to help Trump stay out of a New York prison, but what we can tell you is part of our special and with all this news you may have missed it for the first time Epstein joins the rows of Trump lawyers needing criminal lawyers from their own Arizona prosecutors accusing him of election

fraud

for a host of Trump allies Boris epin continues to play a prominent role in this 2024 campaign Rudy Giuliani Boris Epstein John Eastman Mark's names Meow that we have heard in the past suddenly return In the news, this is the first time he has been accused, but he is also a former Trump aide who should not remain to this day one of Mr.

Trump's closest top advisors. Epstein. This is obviously a big deal and like any other deceased person, he is legally presumed innocent. However, it is also a big issue and a hot topic in this New York case where the defendant Trump is using Boris as a lawyer there and in reporting on all of these issues we have interviewed Epstein repeatedly, even when those first subpoenas came in when you say you will provide evidence. I mean his intention is to cooperate. I am pleased to provide evidence of the overwhelming fraud that occurred in the 2020 election. It was his plan to try to force a vote in the House to reverse the election result.

I had absolutely no idea that there was going to be any kind of violence in the capital, there was absolutely a plan and a process so that there would be, uh, there would be challenges to the elections. Yes, the

elector

al count law establishes a process to challenge

elector

al votes. There was a process that was under way so we pressed on those issues and questions. Epstein is now charged along with Julian Meadows, Jenna Ellis, John Eastman's lawyers who had to defend whether or not they became criminals, plus Kenneth Chesboro and Trump himself named among the un

indicted

co-conspirators in that same case.

Arizona case. Epstein, the New York Times also says he could be an anonymous accomplice in the Jack Smith case. The sixth place has never been fully identified. The New York Times said we haven't confirmed it, but we can confirm that Epstein participated in the election plot. Because we questioned him about it back then, before some of these investigations had gone much further and we got a newsworthy admission, this was about a year after the January 6th Insurrection, it was long before Jack Smith was active, we pressed on how these AIDS. and even the lawyers seemed to be directly involved not just in making arguments or defending things that they are allowed to do, but in advancing active work that seemed to violate the law and that could be actionable and these clues that we built on the basis of the investigators the they continue, so here We are in our special right now.

I'm going to broadcast that exchange and Abstein finally admitted his role in the electoral plan, he didn't defend the legality of it, but he said that he did it with Giuliani and that it involved, remember, trying to deceive the government with blatantly fraudulent voters. in the states that Trump had lost where the loss had been certified and where this was broadcast in full context about 90 seconds into that original interview and you'll hear Aben admit to the same election plan he's now

indicted

for this week in Arizona has also been reporting on the attempt to seat fraudulent electors, um, is that something you ever worked on or would support, for example, in Michigan, that's so funny, not fraudulent electors, president, crazy quote, we fought to seat voters, the Trump campaign asked us to do that, have you ever done that? make calls like that regarding how you call these substitute electors.

Yes, I was part of the process to make sure that there were substitute electors, so your opinion, just for the record here, is that as a lawyer for the Trump campaign, you could seat these electors. In states where the process is supervised by independent courts and approved by the Supreme Court, it was determined that Biden won, there is no possibility that this could be contrary to the law. The Supreme Court never ruled on the merits of the cases. they were so weak that they never reached the merits, not like Bush Vore where they had the entire case that they didn't even see and that included a lot of Trump appointed judges is a reason to even go there, it was a different makeup, it was a different makeup of the court and every day more and more information is coming out from Arizona Georgia Pennsylvania Wisconsin that if you are aiding and abetting the appointment of fraudulent electors or voter fraud, that is not only potentially illegal but you would also lose your attorney client. privilege under the criminal fraud exception for you for your client the Trump campaign.

I will tell you that the perpetration of the fraud was absolutely committed and it was done by the Democrats. Everything that was done was done legally by Trump's legal team according to the rules and under the leadership of Rudy Giuliani, there you go, that was a big deal at the time. Epstein admitted in our interview, back and forth, after we pressed him and showed him the results, the examples and other corroborating evidence that he was in on the election plot and these are states like Arizona where Trump had lost, so It looks a lot like government fraud.