Detective Realizes The 12 Year Old Suspect Is Insane

- Where did you read things about him? - It's called Creepypasta. Anissa believes he is real and she also believes Jeff the killer is real because there is someone in Milwaukee who saw the Smiley Face Killer. and she thinks Jeff is the murderer. It was strange, I didn't feel any remorse. I thought that if. Because I still have this idea in my head that it was necessary. - So, really, you didn't feel any remorse. ? - Mhm. I didn't really feel anything. - Your expression of not feeling anything shows emotionally flat or detached behaviors and perceptions, which can also be symptoms of schizophrenia. - Anissa made me sing for her.

Because she said she was afraid. and she wondered what we had gotten ourselves into...this time. - She explains why they risk entering the Walmart despite its bloody appearance. - We considered the fact that they might ask us why we were covered in blood, but then we decided it was Walmart. So... - Is that normal? - AHA. There are photos of practically naked people in Walmart. So that no one looks twice. -Annisa explained a little more about her expectations regarding Slender Man through this conversation she and Morgan had while on the run. - So I asked for some water and then we sat down.

I talked, uhh, how far do we have to go. - Why do you have to go away? What was the (incomprehensible)? - Supposedly Morgan discovered that Slender was in the middle of... Slender has this big mansion where all the Creepypastas supposedly live. And it's supposedly in the middle of Nicolet National Park or forest or whatever in (indistinct) Wisconsin. So we were going to walk all the way there and realized it was very, very far away. A quick search on the Internet reveals that there are many people who have written and read fictional stories about life at the Slender Mansion with the Creepy Pasties.

The common fantasy seems to lie in being accepted as part of the misfit “family,” so to speak, and for Morgan and Anissa, who had trouble fitting in at school and finding other people who shared their interests, this kind of life. It was probably very tempting. - Because he wanted to walk to Slender? - MMM. I knew that if we asked someone for directions or something, they'd probably call the police because what's not strange about a blonde girl with creepy eyes walking around in jackets covered in blood. Then a girl next to her did so with winter boots. -As she continues to explain her journey, we see more examples of her not fully appreciating the gravity of the act they had just participated in. - We were walking and I finally said, "Morgan, I'm thirsty, can I?" Please sit down and have a drink?" (incomprehensible) And she said, "Sure." So we...

Then we talked for about three minutes. I tried to eat two different granola bars or something. One was a buttermilk one. organic peanut that I didn't like very much. I only took two bites and said it tasted disgusting. I only took a bite and then spit it out because I didn't feel very good. However, in the midst of your concern about the taste of granola bars , Anissa shows little flashes of guilt, as if the mental processing of what they had done was slowly taking over her. (incomprehensible) I couldn't eat anything. Because I was still thinking about Bella lying in the area of ​​the forest where we left her dying.

Sorry. - Okay. - So... Finally Morgan said we should probably keep walking before the police come after us. So we were walking and then I had a total nervous breakdown and blamed Morgan for everything. I said: "You stabbed her, you wanted to do this." (incomprehensible) Morgan is not someone who cries very often. And finally she just let go and started crying and then I just needed to vent because she was scared. What's intriguing here is how the girls' self-preservation instincts far overrode any concern they may have had for Payton's well-being. Nissa is about to name two reasons why she was scared, but neither have anything to do with the state Payton might be in.

She was scared. She was scared A, for me and B, for my family because I'm sure we left Payton in the woods near the Murphy area, that one (incomprehensible). She said, "Oh, and there's one thing I forgot to tell you. "I made some kind of deal with Slender" saying that if he didn't... "Saying that if we didn't kill Bella, "He would kill our families and everything." that we love" and I don't want that to happen, "That's why I did this." What Anissa just said next would be very important. Prosecutors would latch on to this statement suggesting that Anissa was only afraid that her family would be hurt after the stabbing to argue that this kill-or-die scenario was never in her mind.

A deputy prosecutor would claim that Anissa actually went along with the murder plot because she was desperate to maintain Morgan's friendship and said it was therefore a choice for which she should be held criminally responsible. - I got very scared then and I started walking quickly and trying to get out of there. I even started singing to myself to calm down. One thing that never seems to have crossed Morgan or Anissa's minds as they walked further and further away from the crime scene was any conflicting feelings about the possibility that they could return and help their victim.

And then... then I stopped crying. I lay down as if there were a pile of stones near the road. It's called a shoulder or something like that. So I was laying there and Morgan thought he was giving up on me and letting a hawk and everything chase me. -Annisa says that she told Morgan to stop crying, that she was lying there to cool off because she was too hot. But then she decided that she didn't want to risk getting malaria because of the mosquitoes there and they kept walking. - When I was still lying on the floor, I actually said I was tired of this, I want to call my mom, I want to go home.

And Morgan said, "If you do that, you'll spend your life in prison, either that or you'll be executed." - Because he said that? -Because he told me that the consequences of murder were that you would be murdered yourself in less time. -When did he tell you that? - After I said I wanted to call my mom. -So what did you think was going to happen after you stabbed Payton? - I really do not know. I thought he would do it. However, you will eventually get into trouble because... Mommy always says that whatever you do will eventually catch up with you.

So it was. Morgan continues to demonstrate a complete lack of emotional connection to this crime. - Did you think about what would happen to you? - I did it. Anissa didn't seem to think anything would happen. She once said, "Can we go home now?" I said, "No, they will arrest us if we come home." And then she said, "Oh yeah, I forgot, thanks, Morgan." And then I said, "Okay." Although we can't be sure if Morgan's story here actually happened, as she is inherently an unreliable source, Anissa asked if they could Return Home anymore would only be based on the idea that this plot may have been almost "fictional" In his mind.

She probably let herself get carried away by the fantasy of running away to live with the characters she had been reading so much about, but in the back of her mind, it is possible that she still clung to the illusion that she could go. . she goes home and has dinner with his family as if nothing had happened. Finally Anissa described the moments that led to them being caught. She-she started looking at the photos of her and she had another nervous breakdown. And then... And then, after 30 minutes of trying to calm her down and crying, we... finally started walking again and then we kept walking straight for a while.

Then we saw a Steinhafels and (incomprehensible). - They went into the furniture store to refill their water bottles and buy some extra fruit snacks for the road. Then they went out and sat down by a tree. - Morgan started talking about whether or not we should take our consequences or move on. So I lay down on the grass and that's when one of the officers told me, "Put your hands up where I can see them." And then they caught us. - Well. But he started talking to me. I said, "I'm scared, they told me-" "They told me that if I didn't do something, my family would be in danger." And then he said: "You are safe now, don't be afraid." Then he put me in the back of the car and then I looked at Morgan.

I don't know what they said to him because I couldn't hear anything. And after 30 minutes, they brought us here. - Well well. - Four hours and 30 minutes after Peyton was found at approximately 2:30 p.m. Morgan and Anissa were stopped at the intersection of Highway 164 and Interstate 94. A Good Samaritan passing by had seen a post on Facebook, spreading the word to look for the two fleeing girls. They recognized them immediately before calling 911, tracking their movements and relaying the information to authorities. When the girls prepared to take a break, the police arrived and intercepted them shortly after. The officer pointed his gun at the girls and ordered them to put their hands in the air, which they obeyed.

The girls were soaked in blood, but things were about to get even more disturbing. Morgan's reaction to the officers was completely strange and it was clear that she was either detached from reality or faking some kind of act. When more officers arrived at the scene, Morgan asked, "Did I kill her? Is she dead?" Police found the backpack Morgan had packed that morning and began searching for food, water bottles, the five-inch kitchen knife and family photos of Morgan and Anissa. As the officers looked at the blood stains on Morgan's clothing, they asked her where her blood came from.

She responded that she was forced to kill her best friend. While authorities waited for custody to be transferred to the Waukesha Police Department, an officer asked Morgan what she was thinking. Morgan explained that she was thinking about Spock, the Star Trek character and his girlfriend. Obviously, the officer was taken by surprise and asked him to explain further. And he explained that Spock and his girlfriend were disgusting since Spock couldn't feel emotions and apparently he shouldn't kiss a woman. Once stopped, Morgan began to sing softly to herself. When they put her in the back of the patrol car, she said, "What?

You're going to execute me for killing her? - What do you think should happen to someone who...stabs another person? - I was hoping they'd put me in some kind of strange place or I expected to be put in prison or an asylum, I didn't know what to expect. I don't think I'm crazy now. A type The type of deception is grandiose, in which a person develops an exaggerated sense of power or knowledge and may believe that he has great talent. You will see this manifested in Morgan's next statement. - Have you ever thought about hurting yourself? - I have learned to numb myself to pain when told to. - What does that mean? - Vulcan mind tricks - So, have you ever tried to hurt yourself? - The interrogator asks about self-harm, clearly seeking to provoke additional symptoms of his mental illness. - Not really, I do it sometimes. - What do you mean? - Most Sometimes it's not even on purpose. - What do you mean by hurting yourself? - I fall down stairs a lot and sometimes I just do this and then I accidentally do this instead of this or something like that.

Schizophrenia is debilitating in many ways, and psychomotor problems can also be a symptom, including clumsiness and unusual gestures, which could be the underlying cause of the ways in which Morgan says she accidentally hurts herself. - So, have you thought about hurting anyone else or just Bella? -Sometimes Anissa slaps people for no reason, like me. - How about stabbing people? Have you ever thought about stabbing someone else? - Just joking. I didn't think about it seriously. - So, not really or not seriously. - Not precisely. I wanted to hurt people before, but they are not nice to me.

Then they deserve it. - But Bella was nice to you, why did you want to hurt her? - Because I think it was necessary. - Why was it necessary? - I don't know. -His thinking is disorganized on the topic of why it was necessary to kill Peyton, once again demonstrating the symptom of disorganized or disconnected thoughts. During the interrogations, he asked the girls how long they had been planning this murder, which, of course, will serve to determine premeditation. Morgan's interrogator would later emphasize: "It wasn't until we started talking to the girls" that we really knew that these were two 12-

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-old girls "who had been planning for six months to kill their friend." - So you know, you're very close to Morgan.

You've known her since October and you've been involved in reading Creepypasta since November or something like that. And in December or January, Morgan, who also liked Creepypasta. Did you introduce it to her or did she already know? She-she said that she had also seen Slender in old photographs that she had. So I told him about them. And then he said, "Oh my God, I think I saw Slender when he was five." Because supposedly she used to live in a very wooded area. And Slender likes to stay in the forest. - Wooded areas, okay. A shared psychotic disorder, also known as folie à deux, or madness of two, occurs when a person begins to take on the delusions of someone with a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.

It's a phenomenonseems to oscillate between clarity and understanding to meaningless denials of reality, which is not uncommon among young people. - I didn't want to do this. - Why did you do it then? - Because I was afraid of what would happen if I didn't. - A psychosis with persecution seems to present itself here. Persecutory delusions cause someone to become convinced that someone is mistreating them, plotting against them, or planning to harm them or their loved ones. These obsessions can grow to disrupt a person's ability to live a normal daily life, as has clearly happened to Morgan.

These false beliefs can range from very improbable, such as fear of neighbors spying on you, to completely irrational, such as believing in something paranormal like Slenderman. Since hallucinations are closely related to these delusions, it is not surprising that Morgan's supposed "sightings" of the creepy man only further fueled his fear. And as we saw earlier with Morgan's comments about being left to “rot and die” in jail and that she didn't want her head cut off, her delusions of persecution extend to real-world authority figures as well. . - So you said you were afraid? - MMM. What were you afraid of? - Virtually anything. - Being afraid of almost anything is a classic symptom of persecution associated with schizophrenia. -Because Anissa was already finishing- she was hoping that by playing hide-and-seek she could forget--Who would forget that? -Anissa.

It was like, "Now, Kitty-" And then like, "Oh my God, no..." And I don't know what really happened because Bella freaked out and then Anissa would have freaked out at me and then we were (unintelligible). I didn't want to get hurt. - Didn't you want to get hurt? Did you think about how Bella would feel if she got hurt? - I avoided that, but Anissa said something about us having to do it. - Avoiding thoughts about how the victim would feel is a common dissociation presentation among mentally ill people. As both the girls and the repeals come to an end, there are some more interesting elements to address.

In Anissa's case, one of the most intriguing moments occurs right towards the end. - Can I ask a question? - Yes. - Where is Bella's body now? - Bella is in the hospital. - Well. I thought she was still there at the crime scene. - Did you think she died? - Yes. - She's alive. - Well. - This curiosity is very interesting. And when Anissa learns that Peyton is still alive, her sigh of what appears to be relief may be a hint of remorse. Although it is difficult to know from this single indicator. - How does it make you feel? - It makes me feel a little happy.

I'm a little worried that... I'm just scared, all over the place. - What do you care about? -I know that she will never speak to me again and that she hates my guts. - Yes. Well, what happened is quite serious. She came very, very close to dying today. - Well. - Very close. The doctors were able to save her. - Well. - How does it make you feel? - Good. -Does it make you feel good that she is alive? - MMM. -She may now be beginning to understand the seriousness of her circumstances, but it is difficult to assess it considering her immature and possibly mentally ill mind. - Will I be able to go back to school? - What day is today, Saturday? - Yes. - You know, I don't know if you'll be able to go back to school on Monday, but at some point you'll be able to go back to school. - Well.

How many stab wounds did they find? -19.-Okay, Morgan counted 17.-Was she talking out loud while she was doing? Him? -No, I think she was counting in her head. Are they cutting our clothes? - No. They are drying to ensure that part is dry. It can also be a biological hazard. - Ah OK. I just realized something... If I don't go to school on Monday, that will be the first day I miss school. - Are you kidding, have you never missed a day of school? - Never. The last time I remember missing a day of school was for my great-grandfather's funeral. - Wow. - And that was in third grade. -Anissa is still worried about childish things even though she has a very adult crime on her hands.

It's safe to say that she has no idea what serious trouble she's in right now. - Will I ever get my clothes back? - I don't know if you're going to get those clothes back. I don't know if you want those clothes back. Do you want those clothes back? I mean you can probably get them back at some point. Yeah, they probably have blood and stuff, I don't know, but... - It also makes me feel a lot better knowing she's alive. - Good. -Are you worried about not seeing Slender? Or do you think she doesn't exist? - It does not exist, it is a work of fiction.

I think people who say they've seen it in person have read Creepypastas and then remember a strange tree that they thought was thin because I know that was one of the cases on the bus, I look back at the tree. , and it was strange. Does Morgan know that Bella is alive? - I don't know, I don't know if Detective Casey told you. Did you expect her to die when you ran away? Did you expect her to die so you could see Slender? Is that all... - Part of me wanted this to fail, because I... I hear about manslaughter and all that on TV and it doesn't bother me much, but when I see it, it traumatizes me. me.

But the other part of me wanted her to die. But part of me wanted to do it, the bad part of me wanted her to die, but the good part of me wanted her to live. - Feeling of conflict between one's good side and bad side could be a precursor to schizophrenic behavior, but at this time it is only a subtle potential indicator. -It scared her, the place where they stabbed her was near her heart. They had to go in and open her chest. And sew part of her heart to repair it. And after that, they had to cut open her stomach because they cut out her pancreas, they cut out a part of her liver, and they also cut out her stomach. -Yes, Morgan said she hit him in the stomach. - So those were very serious injuries.

And she was... She was very close to death. So what you were trying to accomplish today was very close to happening. But the doctors were able to cure her. -What's up with the big cut on her leg? - I'm sure they'll be able to sew that. There are no major arteries in her leg. As you get closer to the pelvic bone. But yeah, this is pretty serious and I know you were worried about execution and stuff like that. We don't have the death penalty in Wisconsin. You're 12

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s old and I'm not exactly sure what's going to happen here.

Something horrible happened today and I know you realize it now. - I regret it. - But here we have to accept some responsibility. And by giving me that statement, you are accepting some responsibility. You are very honest with me and cooperated with me. And that means a lot. That means a lot to Payton, okay. - From Anissa's calm demeanor, it is evident that reality has not yet set in. Even when the interrogator finally reads her story to him and asks if there is anything wrong or if she missed something, Anissa feels it is important to add more information about another Creepypasta character. - Could you add Slender Man and Zalgo in (incomprehensible)? - Zalgo? - Yes. - How do you spell Zalgo? - Z-A-L-G-O. -Does Zalgo also have representatives? - Yes. - Does Zalgo like Slender Man? -He is supposed to be this demon with seven mouths. - Oh, that's the demon.

So what I just read to you was the statement that is written here...-Morgan complies when she finishes her interview and she is handcuffed. As a result of this crime, the agents found a message written in Anissa's phone book. It was dated May 28 and said: "My last wish for those I care about." Do not regret my absence, but remember me as I was. "I love and appreciate you all and I wouldn't hurt you. "I want everything I have to be for my parents" and my best wishes to everyone who knows me personally, "don't miss me." Recovering Anissa's notebooks and Morgan School lockers revealed drawings that appear to show bloodied figures, knife-wielding characters, and sketches of Slender Man.

Emails were also recovered between two addresses named HermioneG516 and alexandriaweier, exchanging furtive messages, such as, "Make sure you don't leave any traces." because when he said events happen, "the school will look for your email." And, "I told myself not to feel emotions and it worked." One that appeared to be from Anissa said, "But smart girls dressed to kill are bittersweet "I think it could be us." Peyton was interviewed after recovering. And she even gave the authorities many details of what had happened to her. When asked what Morgan did to her specifically, she responded: "I can't say, it's so sad." She revealed that Morgan whispered: "I'm so sorry" to her before starting.

She claims that Morgan told her it was the only way to save Peyton's life because one of the Creepypasta characters was stalking her. Peyton told Morgan that she doubted it, but Morgan said, "We're not kidding." To this day, Peyton carries emotional scars that will affect her for the rest of her life. For months after the attack, she slept with scissors under her pillow to protect herself from it and kept her bedroom windows locked, refusing to open the curtains just in case. She was excited to return to school that same September, eager to get back to a normal routine after working to recover from the traumatic event.

Her community came together by wearing purple to honor her favorite color and raising thousands of dollars to help cover her medical expenses. Morgan and Anissa were charged in adult court with attempted first-degree intentional homicide. Morgan pleaded guilty and was convicted. But as part of an agreement he was found not guilty by reason of mental illness or defect. Anissa pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of being a party to attempted second-degree intentional homicide, but was ultimately found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect by a jury. Psychologists agree that Morgan and Anissa's friendship created a perfect storm of shared delusions.

It was revealed that Morgan's father had suffered from a mental illness similar to that of his daughter when he was a teenager and was hospitalized at least four times, demonstrating that Morgan's early-onset schizophrenia may have had a genetic basis. . Doctors testified in 2014 that he believed he had Vulcan mind control abilities, that he could talk to Voldemort, that unicorns and pegasi were real, and that he could communicate not only with Slender Man, but also with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Her mental health has reportedly seen significant improvements in recent years. Even at one point, a state psychologist told the judge that she would not support Morgan being granted probation because she had been hearing Maggie's voice, a hallucinatory voice that she has been hearing for years again.

Anissa was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, major depression, and personality disorder. Her defense argued that she was under the command and control of a delusional disorder linked to schizotypy, a diminished ability to separate reality from fantasy. While no apology will ever erase what Peyton endured, it's interesting to note that both girls have expressed that they regret what they did. Anissa was sentenced to 25 years and Morgan, the maximum to 40 in a mental health institution. However, in the summer of 2021, there was a recent update to this case. A judge accepted a request for parole from Anissa, who argued that the 19-year-old is no longer a threat to herself or society.

Based on reports from hospital staff that Anissa was not exhibiting psychotic behavior, state officials were ordered to present her release plan and a hearing was scheduled for September 10. In a letter to the court, he stated that he has exhausted the resources available to her at the mental health institution and needs to reintegrate into society to become a productive member of it. And when the scheduled hearing day finally arrived, a Wisconsin judge ruled that Anissa would be granted release from the psychiatric hospital on September 13. The full report on the conditions of her release has not been made public, but the judge has stated that Anissa had a clean mental health history and that there is no clear evidence that she poses a substantial risk of harm to others or herself. .

Anissa herself informed the court that she plans to live with her father and look for part-time work. She will remain under constant GPS monitoring until determined otherwise. She also hopes to pursue higher education. She expressed, "I want to reiterate that I'm not saying I'm done growing, changing, evolving or adapting." "I just can't do it here anymore." Reports indicate that she will be under strict regulations, as she will not be allowed to use the Internet except at home, and every time she uses it, her activity will be monitored by the state Department of Corrections. She will not be able to consume alcohol or drugs, enter a bar, or possess a weapon. , or have any contact with Payton or his family.

Peyton has expressed that she is not afraid of what might happen after her attackers are released. She has assured that if they try something funny, they will come back immediately. She has even said that she feels grateful in some ways for what happened to her because it inspired her to pursue a career in the medical field. When leaving ahorrible situation, he said, "Parents need to talk directly to their kids," saying, "This isn't real, it's fake," when it comes to online figures like Slender Man. And for kids trapped in bad friendships, has advised that they listen to their instincts and get out before something bad happens.

Even if they feel guilty for still being friends with that person.