Simon Jordan ADMITS He Would've SACKED Troy Deeney At Forest Green As He Reflects On His Experience

Troy from many messages coming in for you um Troy there is a Colin Watford fan Rick rickmansworth I

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love to see you return to Watford and help Tom wisely we haven't been the same club since you left um there is another

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I love seeing you back at the club of football, uh, doing your bit with Tom cleverly, so there's no shortage of support for you. The question is, are you ready for management? Well you dipped your toe in the water at Forest Green M and after 29 days there. Troy and um we know what happened, yeah you decided to talk and Dale Vince decided to end it, this was Vince the owner.

I read some of what Troy said after that game. I didn't listen to it, but I read it and thought. it was wrong, very wrong, he later apologized on Sky, so I think he knows it was wrong, but it was definitely a factor and our results, not so much our performances, because our performances, apart from that game, had been good and you. I know he also had a disciplinary yesterday with the fa uh he got banned before the games for uh I think it was abusive and violent language towards the officials when he got sent off when we played Swindon that was a new factor you know ? that those kinds of things had happened, um, so it was really just a bunch of things, we don't have much time left, obviously, to save our season and yesterday I felt that it was better to make the decisions before the round or later because I didn't think this was going to work given those things, so since D Vince didn't stick around, he didn't beat around the bush, Troy and you said maybe you weren't ready for this, yeah, right?

I think you can still convince owners, even like him, that you

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be ready for it now. Well, it's never really about convincing owners that an owner will have a say in what they want to do and how they want to do it, and it's about whether you fit that mold, um, yeah, the idea of ​​leaving CU remember that I was playing in the championship last year, literally, last year, so the reason for moving to farus scen was to play but also help in training, learn how to do it well. This way, if I were to go into media full time, I'm not going to come and go, I'm going to be on the best show with you.

I'm going to do this every week and great, you have to dive in and learn to manage and make your mistakes, um, you know, he, he, he, the owner, he makes a decision. I disagree with that. I think there are certain things and Simon could allude to this as well. I think that you. There are certain things you have to do to change the culture and it's a word I hate, but it's the world that gets used to it, the world that gets used to it a lot, you have to do it when you have such a short turnaround like I did, let's talk specifically .

At Forest Green they lost 31 games a year before a league, not 10, 11, 31 games and then under Dave Horseman they tried to change it into the style of playing all these different things, a lot of young players and they kept losing so when we went. It was at 46 losses in a 15 month period, 17 month period, so look, should I go in and be nice and try to turn it around slowly, gradually? I don't have that luxury now, granted, what I said publicly was not the way you should do it, some players called it, right? Yes, of course, but I already talked to those players first, so anyone who knows me, there's nothing I won't tell you here from time to time and then run after you.

Come back and say something completely different. I will also tell the players everything. She should have stayed on the dress, that's something she shouldn't have done at all and I absolutely learned from it. The bright part of this is what This is the part that no one really looks at now: the director of football is gone, the head of transfers is gone, so the people who are in a position to help you are supposed to help guide me, especially the new role they have. They have been fired, where do they tell us? So the club is in a bit of a mess and Dale would admit that they've made mistakes over the last 18 months and they're trying to fix it and he would wish that um like if and and and The team now, all the best.

I don't have any resentment. It was a wonderful

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. Yeah, and he didn't make me go. I wasn't good at it because I know what we did and I know what we can. I can deliver but obviously there is a lot more work to do on my part, take responsibility first before blaming anyone else, if you had been a deal V Simon you would have pulled the plug and tried yes because he spoke well in public. I think there's that Mark Twain kind of expression is okay, you know, let people think you don't know anything, don't open your mouth and show it. the old expression, let people think you are stupid, don't open your mouth and prove them right. and I think at that point I think common sense was gone, yeah, and a position of frustration and irritation and a belief system that somehow this will make it better, and somehow, I get it off my chest about something and things They will improve as you go. as a result of this, but that should have been included and valued in the decision-making process that Dell had in the first place, which was that I have an in

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d manager working alongside me who is transforming from a player to a manager.

I didn't ask for this job, it was offered to him as a result of circumstances, so I have to make sure I'm pretty close to him and that any frustrations he has he says to me and whatever he wants whenever he wants. talk and let it go and actually try something, then we can do it with each other, yeah, not in the media and that would mean that to some extent Troy doesn't listen to what's being said to him. or the owner didn't have that relationship knowing that he put in an inexperienced manager, so everyone is complicit in that situation, he is complicit for not involving his brain instead of his mouth, um and the owner is complicit for almost not understanding what he has in his hands. yeah, yeah, you've got, you've got someone, what, look at Troy Dei, look at what he says, look at what he does, people say they'll admire him, he'll criticize Arsenal, other people will say who you are, average mid level.

Premier League footballer who plays for Watford talking about Arsenal, I'm not saying that's right, so keep that in mind, so you know, when you look at calling Gage, wait, take that comment aside, look and see, this is it. I'm D Vince, right, and I wouldn't be D Vince because he wouldn't own a proper football club. I don't think the Green Rers are a proper football club. Palace was a forward-thinking football club. I loved them. in the Premier League they were in the Premier League they were the best team in the championship, with such different aspirations, so when you ask me what I do with Dale, would he have done it with Troy?

Would he have hired him? Would I have given him my first chance? a manager uh for Troy at Palace because of the scale of the club so now you're asking me to take a different position which is why I ranked a point between Forest Rover and Palace but the other point is I would. I know with Troy I'm betting here. Someone has no experience. He doesn't really understand the big picture of what management entails. Can they manage it? That will be one of your problems. Are they going to say things that they have ultimately said? I've been able to say it as a player and I could possibly think as a player, but now they can't say it as a coach, okay, what am I going to do?

I'm going to bring this as close to me and I as possible. I'm going to be right, you use me when you want to call them whatever they are, tell me and we'll work it out and fix it, that's what I would have done and you understand. now Troy AB, do you think he will affect you later? Troy with a Warner perspective that thinks Troy D yes FC he yes no, of course he will, of course he will, but it's like anything, yes, of course, you'll have to do it. you have to earn respect respect is never the f is that you can do a thousand things well, a bad thing always remains in everyone's memory, so it's about realigning, but like I said and I'll be adamant about this, I didn't come in very

green

saying I want the job that never was, it was about coming in and learning how to do my badges, do all that fun stuff and understand what it takes at the lower level.

I was in League 2 when I was 19 years old. I haven't done that since, so I don't know what that picture is like. I don't know what the players think. Okay, let's get in there. I know what Premier League players think because I was doing that two years ago. I know what the championship is. Players think CU was doing that last year. I know how those clubs work, but where is my starting point? Realistically, it's probably going to be in and around those areas, so get in there, learn, get your hands dirty and figure it out, and it just didn't work.

Find out if a coach would have called you out publicly, yeah, when you were a player, well, the OB, the obvious thing is, and I think you said this before, I never put you in that position where you could because what I'm talking about is effort not it's about your technical ability it's not about how well you played the position effort desire to get to work on time you've never lifted a leg you've always given 100% every time every time of course it's the best job in the world it's the best job in the world even for this I arrived on time for this you were I arrived early you arrived early we all had talks yesterday and I get it mate I get it I was in that game you played in Yes, for Forest Green against Gester M and you ran it , yeah, and you were brilliant, you won 5 to 0, I think so, um, and I could see that there were moments of frustration with frustration with you even though you were getting through it.

It's not thinking as fast as you, no, but it's not, it's not even thinking as fast as it is and I'd be interested to understand both of your points on this. It's about understanding where you are in life, so let's keep it purely us. We all play football because we love it and we happen to have it, but the bottom line is about finances, so you want to work for a living and live the rest of your life as comfortably as possible. The money is not in the League. Also that you can retire at the end, but you have the ability to advance by putting more into it, yes, yes, because the difference between League 2 and League 1 is not very big in terms of players who are close. a big step up to the top end of League One and the bottom end of the Championship, which you can get to, but then there's an even bigger reach into the Championship and then you get into the astronomical reach that these players probably have.

What I'm not going to reach at the moment is the Premier League. Those who can afford to retire and live comfortably are in the Premier League. Everyone else. The championship has to think well. I have to maximize this potential. I have to maximize the game for as long as possible. Yes, if you are 27 or 28 years old, you played in League 2 it is because you are not applying yourself in the right way. I understand some of that too. I understand some of that, but I would suggest the most simplistic part. It's about leadership and communication and whatever level someone is at, it's about demanding the best version of them and that's a form of leadership and it's about communicating with them and if communicating with them is understanding. his circumstances, football management involves prostitution, I don't know.

I mean using prostitutes, I mean having to prostitute yourself and tell players things that you know aren't true to get the best out of them, having to not bring them out in certain circumstances because today's player can't handle it. I can only deal with praise, not criticism. The days of a player being trained, the days of being forced to do certain things, are gone, so there is an element of having to prostitute yourself to get certain results, but the real thing, for me, you know him as a manager, I've spent time with him and if I was asked about Troy Dei in terms of do I think he has the ability to be a manager, yeah, not because I like him, but because I think he has the propensity to think. he overcomes challenges in life and overcomes them and many people judge a failure and then say that once you have had a failure, that is the categorization you will have forever, go live in America and failure is part of success from someone, yes, if you haven't. failure is not a success in the end in the longer game, so I think the way he thinks about things and the way he applies himself and the opportunities he will create for himself, I think he will get another chance, but also the media and the way he represents himself and what he says in the weeks and months that follow.

Yes, MH will also play a role in you absolutely liking Troy. I do, you like me, not particularly Jim White and Simon Jordan. Monday to Friday morning from 10:00 a.m. via the talk sport app and on your talk sport smart speaker