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Alte Schule, Folge 182 Eberhard Thiesen (der Podcast)

Mar 12, 2024
base fill and then filled with soil and planted. Yes and fortunately there is still a very small corner that can be seen from the car that is the history of the UNESCO World Cultural Heritage but be careful. The interesting thing is that the main thing that was different was that you covered it and many other things, the goods were preserved, otherwise the car looked terrible and the corner of the car that faced the bank was attached, then there was someone who represented it , then he ordered us to dig again and then we kind of lubricated our way to the minister, who was the one who made the decisions.
alte schule folge 182 eberhard thiesen der podcast
Of course, they also thought they were crazy or that it must be gold. They handed it out without asking first, yeah okay and then my friend is in an open truck, he brought it to Cameroon via Nigeria and then I met him and carried him to Germany and they still lubricated him, how do you imagine that? There were people there who then said and it's worth gold if you now bribe one of the inferior sheep who pretends to be the one who can issue the permit. and without you giving something personally, nothing works with Africans. Of course, he also handed over a small piece of paper afterwards, but then the person above found out and He also wanted something, so the third man after was the superior. one who decided and then also held out his hand to say how much money they had to pay, exactly 5,000 marks or something like that...
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I had a special workshop for that at that time 600 Mercedes and I had two wonderful people who rebuilt the car, it was amazing , curiously it was the prototype, and in 1965 he was the first to use it for state visits in the federal government and after three and four years it went to France and was then presented to the President. Chat was given away because I guess there are no car papers somewhere in the safe. How can you then assign these belongings to yourself or if you have the car here you go to the Mercedes to look for a registration so that's what the government had for them to issue us that the car had a letter on it I still have it somewhere and with this letter we were able to go to Germany later, when the car was finished and the papers we could leave. that, its history was amazing if now they could find parts of what it was or when it would be as they make the car interesting again for collectors so sometimes there is an auction where they say we have a chassis number 7 real so and so if now there is only the frame, but none of the inlays on the engine, transmission, steering wheel, who knows where the drivers touched it.
alte schule folge 182 eberhard thiesen der podcast
If you have ever seen it or seen a race track, it is still an interesting or good car, the frame, if it has the chassis number, is the identity of the component and if you find the frame with a number then you also have the right to make a car with it. But you can't build a car around my gearbox or an engine. That would be doubtful. For example, I found the remains of the first Bugatti Royale in America years ago. I didn't find it, but someone else gave it to me but added that this frame appeared.
alte schule folge 182 eberhard thiesen der podcast
Mr. Bugatti Royale was at that time the most expensive car in the world Bugatti was intended for royal families and actually the richest, to give an example of the price, when a 540 compressor bracket costs between 22 and 27,000 real marks and 120,000 OK, seven of which were built, including a prototype that was given up as lost and this frame Bugatti the son of Gates, who later took over the business and, above all, showed this car to people in issue that they had an accident with the car and then this chassis number was stamped on the next car for tax reasons and on the frame in the accident.
I ended up in America at some point and the radiator was still there and the rest of the engine was missing, but it was still an interesting project because you got through it. Frame could also say that that was what the car used to be and with the help of In various museums, Bugatti museums, we were able to put together the old sets of drawings, so some had the sets, some had them, so we practically built a new rear axle and a new gearbox. A steering system was found somewhere in England and turned up in the accident. of the front axle in New Zealand, so we gradually completed the car and we knew it had a Packard body, so Bugatti had run out of money for it by the time he bought the first car, a Packard cut in the middle, extended We separated the body and put it on the Royal and then we bought a car like that, we did exactly the same and well, when the car drives again today and it is, as I once said, the seventh Royal that came back to life and that is definitely justified to say that this is the car because the chassis is the essential part and it is also original.
If what the car will bring now or what it has there, you can do it. It's hard to say, so a Royal has achieved the highest price, there are only six pieces and the blue VW has one, then there are two in the Smurf museum in Mühlhausen, one in the United States or two in the United States, so I don't know exactly where they all are, in any case they will be. It wasn't sold like that, no, but one was sold, it must have been in '87 or something like that, so in the year Bugatti died there was a Monte Carlo campaign exactly and they said that a car like this reached 14 million German marks 87 87 yes below the GTO. "I think 12 million paint chips come off and you can only guess what kind of car would be produced today.
That's also a big myth about the condition of the vehicle and Bugatti made money between the wars as one of the best brands, too." very important contribution to motorsports. So we also gained a lot of reputation through racing. Well, that's it for your question of whether a chassis frame is enough to reestablish a car's identity. No, I always built the car and then sold it at some point. I didn't sell it, I have it. I sold these parts to someone and had the idea of ​​making a car out there again when he now admits it and says, man, I'd like to sell the car, which is usually the case, which is rarely the case right now. , but sometimes they come and sell it.
I can't rate the moment, I have to say it from the beginning, but of course I would. I don't advertise it but I would offer it to select collectors who have vehicles in their private fleet or museum or foundation that have this carat of this equipment and there aren't that many in the world, I think so, how many of them? Well, I know almost all of them by name, I would say, but I've personally had to do with maybe half of them, that's 10 20 yeah, I'd say maybe ten twelve really great people, most of There are United States very well-known ones that we can talk about, so I'll say Florian, now I think he's one of those Kellers who certainly has the most important collection in the world, he lives partly in Mexico and partly in California.
The museum is in California and its collection is worth, let's say, more than a billion. I would say how to get to the search. How many cars are there? Maybe 300 billion. Yes, it's a collection you couldn't put together today because he started buying. things in the '60s and what he made his money with he builds the European cars for all the cars that are manufactured under license in South America, the interior, but and they also came back, offered the cars and then left them to collectors. come and say I have two interested parties offering more get it or you definitely wouldn't give it up at auction but a car um no okay I wouldn't give it up at auction why isn't it that you think a car is more likely to be organize there or not, but the price is transparent and most owners do not want this to be published everywhere, of course, if there is a limit and it is not reached, then the car burns out and, unfortunately, with the car was burned for the auction, my technology also gave up the ghost and that's why I have to make the last 50 liters of Eberhard, just from memory, he poured it into his Horch 853 and took it to his youngest daughter's wedding, a worthy occasion in my opinion.
I hope you enjoyed this episode. I've linked it again below from Eva's page. We will hear from you again next Thursday. Until then, I wish you a great time and stay healthy. Information, photos and everything. What you need to know on the website www.h

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