Why the Celtics’ Ime Udoka Is Facing a Suspension | Whitlock Exposes Stephen A. Smith Again | Ep 293

welcome foreigner welcome to Fearless with Jason Whitlock I'm Jason Whitlock your host uh happy Thursday to you and yours we're almost to the weekend. I'm excited for the weekend. I hope you are too. I'm excited for today's show. To be fantastic, the wonderful, charming, intelligent Jill Savage is here with me in the studio today. That's amazing because we have a topic that lends itself to a female perspective. Emmy Adukko, the head basketball coach of the Boston Celtics, as you know. The news, last night and today, potentially faces a one-year

suspension

for what Shamshania is reporting is believing to be a consensual working relationship with a Boston Celtic politics staffer.

I think there's more to the story, we'll get into that. Steve Kim will be here, Shamika Michelle, we'll bring Tiffany Odom because after she gets over this with Jill and Steve, I'll turn the conversation over to the ladies and we'll talk a little bit. a little bit about Adam Levine and Emmy aduka and then the Delano squires will round out the show. Let's go a little deeper into both topics. Adam Levine Emmy educates. Simply the work environment and expectations. A fantastic show. Playing for you. Again we want to start today with what's going on with the Boston Celtics and what's going on with the Emmy Adukko conversation and the media reaction.

He surprised me this morning. I turned on ESPN. Stephen A Smith has a great NBA brand. A lot about the NBA I wanted to see how he reacted to Adrian Warranowski and Sam Charney is reporting on Emioduko and I wanted to see where this conversation was going to go. Emmy is a black coach. She is coaching the Boston Celtics. He is, you know. Going into his second year, we're just a week away from NBA teams reporting to training camp, and he led his team to the NBA Finals a year ago. My expectations have been so low that I knew this story, what has been racial, started to turn racially last time. night on social media and woah, I don't think I didn't tweet this until 1:35am. and immediately the Brett Favre tweets started and I think an MBA coach faces discipline for uh illicit or irresponsible or immoral relationship in his work environment and somehow this has something to do with Brett Favre which surprised me and then This morning I watched First Take and Stephen A Smith blew me away, so let's start there, play some.

I think there are two clips that I want to play Stephen A Smith, let's play him back to back, they're both mind-blowing to me and I'm going to take it a step further. I don't appreciate them doing that to a brother because I have news for you. America, there are There are a lot of white people in professional sports who are doing their own thing and I say that without praise. I don't see the information about them. Why are we talking about this now? We have to talk about it because it is news that is not ours.

Damn business unless you fire him, but if you keep them, it's none of our business, he should never have been, he should never have been released by the Celtics organization and don't tell me you didn't do it because you absolutely did. because the news reporters got it, so he was born in Los Angeles or Utah or something, leaking this stuff about the Boston Celtics, this is all your fault, he shouldn't have been here, that's what I have to say, I What I will say is this. and this is a message for the Boston Celtics. I have a problem with you as an organization right now because if you're not going to fire him, why the hell do we know about this story?

Nobody is going to mention that. I'm going to tell it. What the hell are you telling us? I've been covering the NBA for over a quarter of a century and I'm trying to tell you right now. I can't count the amount of mm-hmm fraternization or dare I say more than what happens. in virtually every damn organization within the National Basketball Association, Major League Baseball, NFL, the list goes on and on, people get together, they work together, those things happen all the time, literally anyone who covers the professional sports will tell you that it is not new the reason why What I mention is not to excuse anything because if you are talking especially and especially if it is about married people and things like that, nobody tolerates any of these things, that is not the problem What I have with the Boston Celtics is that if they are going to fire him they wouldn't tell us why then if they are going to keep him why let us know now why I have a problem with an organization this is not about what happened on the basketball court this it's not basketball decisions if Korean reports say they are two consenting adults and no matter how unfavorable or egregious we may think their consensual behavior is the fact is none of the damn public's business why do we know this?

Because if it were me. and I'm standing in front of the Boston Celtics, you know, if you're a woge, Adrian wojnorowski is an extraordinary expert who has been in this whole story along with Sean Johnny and Elders Johnny and others. I understand what I'm saying is why us? know this why is this being advertised this is a funny question that comes from someone who claims to be a journalist or journalist in his past this is a funny question why do we know this because yes and first of all we don't know about the Boston Celtics all this happened one, two, three, four in the morning, this sounds to me like one of the Emmys assistant coaches is friends with someone in the media and they are gossiping about why they won't have their head coach next. season or why they might suspend him, this isn't Brad Stevens, who runs the Boston Celtics, or some high-level executive saying, hey, you know what?

At four in the morning we want to leak this to Adrian and Shams, these are reporters doing their job. work calling all your TR sources calling agents build there is someone in me. I'm sure he and his agent are mad, they may have leaked it, they may have told these guys, but even if we dig deeper, let's say Boston did it. post this and let's say today they give an explanation tomorrow, whatever is going on with their head coach, if they don't give an explanation they will be crucified, you will suspend the discipline of your black head coach who just led your team to the NBA Finals and you're not going to give an explanation if Stephen A Smith and all the other breeders go on TV and call Boston and the Celtics organization the most racist organization in sports, how dare they to suspend the Emmy adukko without an explanation, this is racist, you can't do this, they better have a great explanation for why they are doing this and they better give it to us, that would be the argument, and what happened is that guys like Stephen A Smith Shannon attacked other people.

Twitter all these guys pander to Twitter Twitter is so racialized and so trained everyone sees every situation through a racial lens no one ever looks at things

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we talk constantly on this show about looking at the world through a biblical lens , looking at the world through a more moral lens social media appeals to everyone every situation must be examined through a racial lens that is the game that the Boston Celtics and all the sports franchises and all the people in America see themselves as forced to play if Jason Whitlock comes out and says "hey, it's hot today, people well, first people are going to say, wait for Jason's black and he thinks it's hot and if you don't like blacks, it must be cold If a white person comes out and says they think it's hot, we don't.

Think carefully, are they right or not? We start, we evaluate everything through race, this is crazy, it's self-destructive, it's toxic, it's ruining our country. .Stephen A Smith, who we just saw a couple of weeks ago, played the race card on BYU based on nothing and That's why I tweeted this morning. It's like Stephen. A psychological operation. Is it a MK Ultra? Do you have any Handlers telling you to do this to throw away all logic and common sense and just go on TV and play the race card? for them to do that is because what they want is for everything to be evaluated through a racial lens, this coach supposedly based on reports that we've been told he's sexually undisciplined, he's in a relationship with Nia Long, an actress and, you know , there are reports that perhaps This is not their first rodeo with extracurricular activity within the Boston organization, perhaps the Celtics have overreacted here because there is some truth to what Stephen A Smith is saying that in sports organizations, in any organization, in this mixed work environment.

In the world we've created there's a lot of shenanigans going on, but maybe and

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there's a lot of things to discuss here, we're going to try to discuss them, but there's a lot of things to discuss here, maybe this is actually a good thing. The Boston Celtics are taking a moral stance and maybe they are trying to create a work environment where head coaches can't indiscriminately screw over their subordinates, maybe they are drawing a line in the sand because their organization may have been dealing with this problem in other areas and Arenas and they had to draw a line in the sand because things were out of control who knows but let's have that discussion before we play the race card and oh white people are doing the same thing and no one is talking .

On that note, tell Rex Ryan that you remember Rex Ryan, no illegal stories about him and his foot fetish and what he and his wife like to do. Someone texted me early this morning with stories of ESPN doing stories about white NBA executives who were fired for extracurricular sex. in the workplace these stories are written and talked about on ESPN, that's me, so I just want to start because there's a lot to unpack. Steve Kim joins us from The uh, like I already told you, Jill Savage is in the studio, but Steve, I want to start here in jail and I'll tell you first, Steve, what's going on with Stephen A Smith?

This seems very strange in terms of BYU, it seems like he is doing everything he can to bring him. He has become Bomani. Jones and him, I don't think he was ever Bomani Jones, but that's what he became. What's going on well, first of all, although my thoughts and prayers are with Nia Long and, um, she showed that Chris Rockwright is such a faithful man as his choices are fine, but it's related to Stephen A Smith, this is so predictable uh it's almost on cue it's basically like I was reading a script and as this story came out last night and I sent it to you, Jason and other people uh you could already see the racial.

There are lines being drawn in this story, but again, if Stephen A Smith and, by the way, I want to make this clear to a certain extent, I actually agree with them, this seems like a personal matter, people and I'm not condoning it, the People cheat on their spouses. all the time is fine and what you do in the privacy of your own room or hotel room is your business. I don't really care, though, in a corporate workplace like the NBA, it's just disguised as a sport, but it's still a business. Clear rules and guidelines were put in place and obviously he broke them like R Kelly, they didn't keep him low enough to have to deal with the ramifications, but I have a question for Mr.

Smith if he was targeted. Would the coach take the position? Let's be honest about it and because it's interesting, you mentioned the BYU situation a couple of weeks ago with the volleyball player. Did you know last weekend, Jason, that a football recruit who was at The BYU Oregon game actually left the game, a young high school recruit upset because the student section or somewhere in that stadium in Austin stadium were chanting "F the Mormons" and in fact Dan Lanning had to come out and apologize now. I would like to think you know what terrible behavior is.

I want to praise Dan Lanning for coming out and apologizing, but where's the fuss about that when thousands of people heard it clearly, so I'm getting tired of the whole network again? This is what's new on the ISM card, but what about Brett Favre? What's the matter with him? He will probably go to jail and he deserves it but that will be the new thing now if certain people get in trouble and people like you and other media cover a story that will be the car they put out in the back what happens? that's what's new Jill what is Stephen A Smith what is Disney what is ESPN doing it seems like they are trying to get ratings and this is what everyone will click on the Twitter stories everyone will watch these videos but now we are so far away in this cultural path where everything has to be racist, it's literally on both sides of the coin, it's racism, it's just codified. on racism and if you don't see that then you can't, you can't have an opinion on the story, it has to start there first and it's very upsetting to see this because it feels like they're just playing around.

It doesn't seem like it's an honest reaction Stephen A says oh like bro ah right I can't even accept this story no if I was a white coach you'd have different reactions and I just want to judge people based on what they have actually done and I look at what Stephen A says and to the extent that Steve and we have always saidThis, what's happening is a personal matter, but if they came out and fired him, it would be such a big story for the first-year head coach to make it to the NBA Finals as one of the best teams last year of the Game Break. of Stars about that defense in the making, there's no doubt about it, Udoku was having a great first year as head coach, so you can't just go out and fire the guy and not say anything and hope this whole story just goes away. no, it's going to be in the news, that's what you, that's the job, the position you take as a head coach, your life is going to be in the news, that's part of the job requirement now and it's very frustrating to go back. back. to the BYU story where is Jay billis where is Andy Katz right we had they are still defending the volleyball player there was nothing on the tape they went back and watched the Duke volleyball game against BYU there was nothing there Oregon is all over the broadcast, you could hear every time the head coach came out and apologized for it, no one takes that seriously and makes a big deal of it because it's not a special class, Mormons aren't protected, they're not seen as a cool class In this case, you see, okay, we're choosing who we want to defend and this case is just another example of that, you said maybe they're motivated by grades.

I don't believe it. Now, maybe there are some tweets you can get out of this, but I don't think this will lead to ratings. People who cover sports media no longer write or talk about ratings that have been banned and are now off-limits if you follow them. these shows Stephen A Smith's show is not getting great ratings on ESPN Ratings across the board are very low as people are cutting the cord and if people have moved away from the network, this guy of racial harassment does not lead to ratings. I'm going to Steve, I'm going to hype up the Jemele Hill and Michael Smith showcase, they had to get away from them because they helped ruin the Six O'clock Sports Center brand and franchise and their little way of playing the race card didn't do it. did. job and they walked away from it because the grades are very bad and no one right now believes in playing the race card the way they are doing.

Shannon Sharp does it again on Fox Sports. I follow the ratings, it doesn't work. It doesn't generate additional viewers, it does generate more social media influence, but I don't think that's the impetus or motivation for network television. I think chaos and just stirring up the racial divide is the real motivation. I think I don't think Stephen A Smith truly believes what he was talking about today. I don't think he truly believed in what he did about BYU. I believe he has been given a mandate and others have been given a mandate: to stir the racial pot and promote racial division.

What you get paid is no different than LeBron James, Colin Kaepernick and the marching orders they received from Nike, well Jason, although let's take a look at this if you have much more conservative views than Stephen A or Jamel Hill, Kane and Kurt Schilling because they had an opposite opinion, they had no future in the network. I think Stephen A Smith is very intelligent, he understands what is accepted in terms of his messages and what he promotes. I also come back to this when Terrell Owens, of all people, questioned. his street cred because again street cred is very important, right, it's like a right Visa card from Amex, um, and he said you're not as black as Max Kellerman, that's my opinion, but from that moment on Stephen A Smith He said that oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want anyone to question my street credibility in quotes because the reality is that if he had come out and let's say that taking more or less our opinion or even close to it, he would have been skewered, that is the truth for many. these guys I don't think have the guts to tell the truth and that's the truth of the matter and now again the easy default position is to point fingers at Brett Favre and that's why I don't see any of this change in appearance.

Even surprised by the reaction, it's almost like a WWE script, you know how it's going to play out, you know what's going to happen and none of this is a surprise to me, Jason, guys, I want to take care of a small business. I want to continue. After the conversation, I'll tell you where I disagree with you, Steve, in terms of why the Celtics had to take action against Emmy udukko, but first I want to take care of a small matter, do you feel like you can? Not getting back into shape is not your fault, it happens to all men as men age our bodies naturally lose free testosterone, that's because when you were younger you were at the peak of your testosterone production, Aging makes it difficult to stay in shape, but how would you like to have more energy to counteract the negative physical effects of aging?

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I want to come back to you on a point you made or tell you why I think and Jill because I think Jill probably takes your side like the Celtics are overreacting here. I don't think they are in the new world we live in. In the me too world we live in. In the feminist world we live in. Their saving behavior is supposedly putting that organization in a very vulnerable position. with his employees, yes, if the coach goes around beating up his subordinates, my dad told me this when I was in college and I'm going to say it the way he said it, uh, my dad owned a bar in the city center.

He had a very beautiful bar called Debbie and I hate to admit this, but you know, this is just, you know, when he was in college when he was 22 23 years old. I decided I talked to my dad, you know, dad, dad, you told him Debbie was beautiful. my father was my father was divorced at the time and he says no I'm not and I'll tell you he's leaving. I'll tell you why he leaves once you start fucking with them, they don't work for you. work for them and that is the situation the Boston Celtics are trying to avoid when their coach bets and subordinates, she has so much influence over him and the organization particularly in this world and the Celtics as if they are tolerating it or covering it up. everyone is vulnerable he is at the top of the organization he is not an assistant coach he is not an executive vice president he is the head coach besides Brad Stevens and maybe has even more power than Brad Stevens he is at the top of the food chain and it's making the whole organization vulnerable to women being able to sue or men being able to sue at any time and now it's no different than me, and I hate to use this example because I know all the details, but it's like what happened when Isaiah Thomas and the New York Knicks where Isaiah Thomas said something supposedly inappropriate to a nuka Brown Saunders or whatever his name was and she sued Dan uh James Dolan and got a ton of money from the Knicks because Isaiah supposedly said something incorrect to her if this guy, You know, wet his staying somewhere and probably text messages and all kinds of things that could turn on him at any moment.

I don't think Boston had any choice but to deal harshly with him, Jason. In fact, I don't disagree with you. I made it clear that this is the rules in a corporate environment the rules are the rules and there are standards, um, the problem with over and over again, so don't shit where you eat and don't hum where you work, that should be like the 11th commandment and 12, let's just carve that and be a tablet of stone, but this is where I feel bad and for the women, now I see on social media pictures of all the Celtics employees and there is a lot of speculation and I'm thinking, come on guys, These are many of these women who could be married and have children, why put them through that?

And again, that's part of the ramifications of what you did and it reminds me of one of my favorite songs from the mid-'80s by Timex Social Club. Rumors, how do rumors start? started by jealous people and you're right Jason, everything you described there with just random women who happen to be in that media guide are now covered everywhere saying, "Hey, this was part of the success, you're right, that is exactly part." of the reason why they had to deal with this, but I want to say this again for those like Stephen A Smith that I don't want to say sorry odoka but I want to diminish it.

I'm going to say this again. I'm going to say it again, these people's standards and expectations that you have for them, that's what you think of them, so Stephen, what do you really think of a doko? and a lot of other people in the NBA, your standards and expectations are really that low. I will say that your standard expectations are somewhat based on what you're seeing and again, when you're our age, Stephen A and I are about the same age, you've seen a lot of problems in sports organizations and I've seen, I want I mean, I've seen a lot of handkerchiefs.

I've seen serious incidents of domestic violence that don't even involve players, they involve coaches covered up by organizations and what they ended up trying to do they will plant or try. Pawn a coach to another organization instead of imposing discipline and I think that's what Stephen A is talking about. He's seen people move behind the scenes in ways that never come out to the public, but that just can't happen with a coach chief and and Joe, I'll talk about this a little later when Tiffany and Shamika are part of the conversation, but I'm wondering how you feel as a woman.

Have they overreacted here? You know that, right? And again, rumors say that he will receive a one-year

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Adrian Wardenowski says it seems to be going in that direction Shams originally tweeted that last night that's the same suspension that Robert Sarver is that fair I was going to mention that I think the timeline for this This was taken into account with Robert Sarver coming in and saying, "Okay, you know they could be forcing him to sell the team now that he definitely has a one-year suspension, but seeing what he did in the NBA, criticizing him of the way they did it." I have to say that okay, we're going to get back to having morality in the NBA like it's back, like it was ever there to begin with, but I'd like to see if this is going to be the new precedent that they're going to set is that no.

It can be passed, we are not going to defend any of this, but I think this coming immediately after Robert's Harbor makes this a completely different story if this had happened a month, two months ago. Before this really became a reality for Sarver in Phoenix, I feel like the NBA could have approached this a little differently, that it might not have been a full season because it's a personal matter. I still don't like to see it. You still don't want this to happen, but a year for this seems a little long when you look at something like a plate in the NFL, the NBA took action against Robert Sarver, what we're hearing, it's the Boston Celtics, again.

I like that we don't know what's going on within that culture, the dynamics within that organization that can and I've heard rumors that this isn't their first rodeo and and I just think about the current environment that we've got now the racial conversation and everything. that. People are going to be angry when I say this, but I could see Emmy and other black coaches who have had a modicum of success. I'm bulletproof. I am absolutely bulletproof. Who can do something to me? Who can put restrictions on me? I'm bulletproof. I will play the race card with you and if I don't, the will of others will do it on my behalf and that is what we are already seeing.

I think it's unfair to Emmy because he shouldn't be walking around feeling bulletproof, but I wouldn't blame him for feeling bulletproof and I wouldn't blame any of these coaches for building bulletproof because that's the environment we've created. . There are no standards for you, there is nothing that cannot be excused and, therefore,when I take a step back and can't wait to hear if any other details emerge, I tend to think they were going through a tough time. It's time to get this guy to listen to anyone and that's why the punishment seems so harsh. Steve Jason, yes.

I want to end this here. How long was it before your average member compared this racist story to Boston breaking into Bill Russell's house and smearing them? all over your wall. I think on Friday someone will make that comparison and combine that quick thing about Robert Sarver, yeah, I guess he's selling his team and I'm thinking about this. The guy is going to make hundreds of millions of dollars, that's not much of a punishment, you know. what I would have done, guys, not to hijack this, but it's what I do, so Robert Sarver owns the sons and Mercury, the WNBA team.

I think he is a real The punishment would have been to force him to own three more WNBA teams. Now that's the shame. They are making him a team for about 750 million or whatever it is for 500 million. It's not a big punishment, but if you make them say, you know what? Okay, server, we're sick of your shit, you're going to own two more WNBA franchises, let me tell you something that's like a death sentence, that's my opinion. Well, first of all, he's probably going to sell the Phoenix Suns for about two billion dollars, and you know, now he may lose half a billion on the sale, when he also has to add the WNBA team, but he'll make a lot of money selling the Phoenix Suns, okay, thanks Steve.

I appreciate it, good job as always. He can email me and us at Fearless theblaze.com. Shamika Michelle Tiffany. Freedom. Okay, welcome back. Let's expand a little on our conversation about Emmy Adukko, the Celtics coach who is

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disparate action for his extracurricular activity in the workplace. Let's expand it by bringing in Adam Levine, one of the singers, or is he the lead singer? Maroon 5 singer help me, yeah he's been in the news cycle, uh, for cheating on his wife, his lover took him out. some videos and there are rumors that she wants to name her baby after her lover and anyway that made me want to talk to Jill, Tiffany and Shamika about men and women, whether or not it's stupid for women to date celebrities or marry celebrities, uh.

Shamika, we'll let you go first, uh, we'll start there with a very generic, dumb question for women who date, uh, celebrities, celebrities, what do you think? However, you must keep in mind that whatever happens. In your relationship many times you will be in the news and you will have to deal with gossip and people talking about certain things, but I don't think that means you can't date a celebrity, but I also think women should do it. Keep in mind that it doesn't change the fact that you have an obligation to do certain things and I think women forget that sometimes they come to the table thinking that a man will bow down and be faithful to them simply because they are a woman and that's it, They never ask the man how things are going in their relationship, they never want to know what he's missing or what he's thinking, why he's unhappy and they fail, and I think that's whether you're a celebrity or not.

I'm going to back off before I let Jill and Tiffany in. You really think that's what drives Adam Levine. She's not checking to say, Hey, what's going on? Baby, you're missing something. Am I doing this or that right? Do you really think that's why he's four? either five Lovers now or he's just, you know, a famous, selfish little Pig. I definitely think it can be a selfish Freedom Pig as Steve Kim pointed out that you are only as faithful as your choices but I think women are very quick to say when they are not happy with something when they need something but are slow to listen and slow to listen when it's the man uh saying the other thing as a society we haven't provided a space for men to really stay there unhappy with a certain and many times they stay silent or if they say something women are not attentive to be able to read between the lines.

I think that happens a lot in relationships, whether you're a celebrity or not, um uh, complaining, that's not my problem. I know how to complain, that's what I do for a living. It's stupid, stupid, dating celebrities. I think you should know what you're getting into when you date a celebrity. It is not easy to be a celebrity today, the stigma attached to it is It is generally true that sex drugs and rock and roll live a wild lifestyle. Women throw at them every day, creating a world where it is easy for them to fall into sex addiction.

It's not an excuse, but I'm just saying it's their job. that way, not just rock stars, football players, NBA things that are just given to them, so for a woman to date them is very, very difficult, so she has to put blinders on. I guess that's what you're willing to put up with. I'm not saying you have to put blinders on, it all comes down to your morals and standards, if you have certain things you expect from a relationship, maybe a celebrity isn't for the two of you, well, Money Mo Problems, Jason, that's what are. When you look at it, Tiffany alluded to that.

Women attack men who are celebrities. Our culture has put them on a pedestal. If you are a musician, you are an actor, you are an athlete, you are a coach. Women will constantly approach these guys and yes, you can say no once or twice, but you have to say No over and over again, it just lends itself to being a more difficult relationship and you see, you know, like a celebrity. Couples who get together, they both have a similar saying on both sides that they both have to deal with the same thing, which might be a little different in my opinion, but if it's just you know the man is the celebrity with women constantly. throwing yourself at him, you know what you're getting yourself into and you know how to give and take in a relationship and I want to add this, go ahead please, sometimes you don't know the behind the scenes of a relationship, what arrangement you might they're right, maybe Adam Levine's wife knows he cheated, he cheated before her, maybe she got it by cheating on him, maybe let me, I want to move on, Shamika, no, I was going to say what Tiffany said many times, you do not.

I don't know what you've established in your relationship and it's about what you're willing to put up with or what your deal breakers are. One of the things I liked about Monique, the comedian, is that when she was with her husband, she let everyone know from the beginning that our deciding factors are not that I sleep with someone else or that he sleeps with someone else, so don't even mention that, don't mention it to us, it's not going to end our marriage, but there may be something else that's her. deal breaker who knows how to leave the toilet seat up, we don't know, but I think you have to understand what your deal breakers are in a relationship and sometimes you might know that that's not a deal breaker, let me throw it back at you. 'Everyone particularly Tiffany in jail, but Shamika you intervene after them, you've basically argued oh the women are just throwing themselves at each other, they're just throwing themselves at each other and I'm sitting there, well wait we're in this.

Social media DM world where let's not pretend men don't slide into the DMS hunting and fishing, uh, so I don't think you know it's just Adam Levine, everywhere he walks there's a pair of panties falling at his feet , maybe. he's looking for those panties and social media sets him up where it's easy for people to have affairs and cheat. There is a disappear mode, you can have a whole conversation and then remove your Snapchat conversation, you can send a photo that no one knows, they do it. It's easy for people to be able to slide up into your DMs, I mean, as single women, oh, there's a famous married guy who didn't know what Vanishing on Instagram was until this guy was and I was like, what is this? this just happens, I have no idea why no, I don't look for ways to oh how do I delete my messages?

No, if I say it, I say it, but it's definitely something that men who are looking for, yes, Shamika let you participate. but it's a two-way street, yes, yes, it's definitely a two-way street. I've had people slide a couple of blue checks into my DMs and let me tell them when they have two phones that Vanishing doesn't mean anything because I think I'm just as important so I'll take one phone and take pictures of the other because you're not preparing to cheat on me, so I want people to know that it can disappear on your part. t Disappears in mine but yes, men follow behind and sometimes they are just being greedy, they can be intrigued by anything, the way you think, the way you look and they just want to see what you are going through , so yes. it definitely goes both ways okay let's be even broader uh and Shamika I'll let you go first.

It is unrealistic to expect monogamy for men. I don't think it's unrealistic. You know, I know men who are monogamous and who are very faithful and who are handsome, attractive men who could win over any woman they want, so I don't think it's unrealistic at all. I think what's unrealistic are the expectations that you can be in a relationship and not have honest communication. I think that's where we fail as couples. or or like people we're not honest with, we're honest with each other. I saw a video the other day. There is a viral video of this boy who is missing two front teeth and his mother asks him what kind of woman he wants. and then she goes through a series of questions and she says: do you want a light woman or a dark woman? and he says: I want a sexy chocolate woman like me, you know, and she's fine, do you want her tall or short? and he said: I want her shorter than me, every man's wife is shorter than her and she said when do you want her skinny or fat or fat and he said I want her skinny and then she inserted herself into the conversation and said: Do you know what someone would like? like your mom or you don't want someone like me, you want them skinny like he's too fat and eventually he says to his mom like I love you, I love you mom, but you know you're getting a little big, you know it's you.

You're fat but he constantly combines that with I love you mom like I love you and I think that many times we don't want to hear something harsh nor do we want to say something harsh to the person we love. I don't want to say something that makes us look ugly or makes us seem like we have a weakness or makes us seem like we have a problem with something. There is no room in the relationship to be honest and keep it bare, like I say all the time. time, so I don't think it's unrealistic that you can be monogamous.

I think it's not realistic that you can be in a relationship and not have good communication, not have strong lines of communication, monogamy is not realistic for men, um, I think everything is sometimes. That's how you were raised. I was raised that monogamy and cheating was wrong, but we're in a society where even today's TV shows tell us it's okay, so when men can get it for free from women who live in Nashville like an experience. Why would they want to be monogamous? I mean, I don't know, I'm half and half with that. Hey? I'm going to enter here.

I'm not going to be a coward. I'll have an answer here shortly. I still want to believe that monogamy is a real thing in the real world um, I would love for it to be that way, you know, if that's what you want in your relationship, that's what you get, it's not the way of the world, it's a lot of fun because a guy who used to play in the NBA forever. I had this conversation with him and he said, oh monogamy, that's not even what men were bred to do if you go back to when they were, you know, hunting and trying to gather everything.

These things for women had all these women in their little tents and I'm like, yeah, we're not doing that like we have cable TV, we're all sitting here like we're cooking in the kitchen. like the chicken came from the supermarket like this isn't that world and he said but it's Primal it's in your head it's in your blood it's just what you do and I thought that's a very convenient excuse for someone who grew up in a world where monogamy didn't exist like we were talking about before about the NBA and I just look at that and say, I don't want that to be true.

I want there to still be morals and values ​​in this world and I desperately want that to take hold in society again. You know, five years ago I certainly wouldn't say what I'm going to say now, anyone can, uh, you know, I used to write humorous columns, but they were all based on uh, disrespect for monogamy uh, I used to have a very famous column. , anyone who's been following me for a long time, uh, I used to write this column called Galore, uh, do the James Bond character, but it was my way of knowing, I started anyone ever heard the same thing uh, he's undefeated.

I popularized that in the sports world and that was the Tiger Woods thing and every time an athlete when these people from ESPN got in trouble, I said oh. There goes the Lord again, she's undefeated, you know, she's been defeated by men forever and that's why I used to think very differently about monogamy and now I feel like I understand the importance of monogamy and that's why I I feel there as frustrated as I am with the world. I know it's himfailure of men that has caused all the chaos that we live in now and part of that is really related to our lack of sexual discipline, our lack of monogamy, the only one.

Why, to me, women go against their nature in an attempt to be more like men and women are now rejecting monogamy and we look around and no one really cares about the children in the family, no one really delivers. his word or commitment because, again, if you will go before God and your entire family and make a sacred covenant with God about how you are going to treat a woman and then immediately repudiate him and start doing whatever you want, why would you wait? that someone would live? They live up to their word and now we live in a society where there are no sacred covenants, it's a man's word, it's not a man's word, if someone, uh, and that's where I'm weird, uh, because again, I take my word very seriously. and when people don't do it, I get very angry and that's part of it.

I had the wrong mentality. I didn't believe in monogamy and so I thought, "I'm never going to get married. I'm never going to get married. I've destroyed relationships to avoid marriage because it's like I'm not going to lie to someone, I'm not going to do it and I wish I had a different mindset, but I think that many of the problems we have in this society simply because men don't care about their word and I can look around and get angry at everyone else, but first I have to get angry at myself and what we have done through our lack of discipline and lack of commitment to our Sacred Covenant, so let me ask you ladies, this Tiffany.

I'll start with you and I think this will be interesting. You work in a bar and in the entertainment industry here in Nashville. Do you think the environments are getting better for women? No, I mean there are no consequences for dating in the workplace, um, I. I would never date in the workplace because I grew up, you don't date in the workplace. , if you do you will lose your job, but a lot of people don't do it, it's not based on morals and I see people who date multiple people. Employees don't know about each other and then get a slap on the wrist, so I don't think it's getting better, so take away the sexual dynamic.

Do you think that in the course of your working life, women are treated better in the In the workplace, let's bring up the sexual dynamics. I think they are treated better because I have been in work environments where I have felt uncomfortable or been harassed by someone higher than me. If I didn't do certain things, I wouldn't get these shifts or I wouldn't know and of course I never acted on them. I reported them, but now you don't see it as much because you have human resources and you have people to turn to, so I guess it's gotten better in that regard.

Harvey Weinstein Dynamic and you go before and after that and I know it's all wrapped up in the metoo movement, but my first boss, the guys who used to host the radio show, they knew about my boss, they weren't, it wasn't theirs. their direct boss, but they'll always make jokes like, oh, Dave, on that Casting Couch over there, just be careful, was something people might say, like if you were trying to get a job in the entertainment industry, which sometimes You know. This is what you will have to do. By the way, I never did it just to throw that out there, but I think things are getting better if only because people will be afraid of losing their jobs if they do or say anything. wrong, is there some middle ground where we could just live and just be and not have to worry about every little thing we say or, oh, I congratulate you on your jacket today, that will be the workplace? harassment because some people some women say oh you can't comment on what I wear, you know I'm going to take you to my superior, you know there's a fine line where we can come to an agreement, but I think that if you look back, from the Mad Men, Harvey Weinstein era, to where we are now, it's a lot better now than it was back then.

Shamika, things are getting better for women in the workplace. uh, uh, maybe, uh, there's a part of me that feels like things have gotten a little boring in the workplace. I know I got a four-dollar-an-hour raise because my boss, you know, had something for me that worked in my favor, so you know, I don't know, now it's gotten a little boring because I think men are so guarded that they don't even want to have regular relationships because of the way it might look, the way it Someone might think something is happening when nothing is happening and I think that's just eliminating some of the playful banter. between men and women who sometimes make life fun, of course, no one wants to be in a position where someone is hiding something from them that is preventing them from moving up, being successful, or getting to the next level, and that goes both ways. .

Don't you ever want to be in a position as a man where a woman can hold something over your head to prevent you from moving forward and vice versa? One of the things one of my former bosses told me is something a man should never do at work: don't play with money or honey, don't play with money when it comes to your job, and don't get involved with a woman. because that can always lead to ruin, but I think people are so on guard now because we don't really have genuine relationships, we don't joke around as much as we used to, men feel like they can't compliment a woman, a woman feels like she can't congratulate a man So I think some of what we're dealing with now is very boring a lot of times for me, like I'm a joker, a joker person.

I like to make jokes and sometimes they are very rude and I just think people are very guarded now, not you, Shamika, you don't make rude jokes. I have never seen it. I know it's hard to believe, thank you, but you know, um, there was something, wait, I'm sorry, Jason, there was something. You said no, go ahead, you were talking about Galore, something I grew up with was, uh, Willie D, stand, um, you think she did it right, it's not like you can't get a dime board at the house of effort, so I think I've always been the kind of person who understood that it's not just about sex, like you have to bring other things to a relationship, and when it comes to people cheating on you and all that, it's not always It's just about sex and that's where I think communication comes in.

I also want to say in defense of this coach for the people who say oh he cheated on Nia Long, he cheated on his girlfriend who wasn't his wife and I personally think if you don't take your relationship seriously why should you? ? someone else so that's my thought about the coach who wasn't actually married you know you're fair game if there's no ring involved you're just a glorified girlfriend and I don't care if they call you fiancé uh Shamika I'm going to send you the next one question, this will be the last one and then we'll hear from Jill and Tiffany.

It's a blended work environment, it's ideal and I asked the question because I think I'm going to get in trouble, but I think blended work environments are extremely complicated and scary and not as productive as some of the previous work environments we had. . I think once you put a woman in a work environment with a group of men, particularly heterosexual men, everything changes and so I don't think it's ideal, obviously I've overcome my prejudices and work with women and try to create an environment professional. Let me record that in the log. It doesn't stop me from hiring anyone or wanting to work with people, but I don't think it's ideal are you are your thoughts I prefer a mixed work environment I'd rather be around more men than a group of women um so I'd rather not even remember the environment the one I was in It's mostly women, unless you want to say church because you know there aren't a lot of men in church now, but I think I prefer a co-ed environment because it gives you the opportunity to not only have that interaction with a man but also of learning.

From people, one of the things I can say that I've learned even from the men on our platform is watching Delano with his wife, watching you run your show and run a business and watching Steve Kim be able to laugh at jokes and relax listening. Royce to be able to have an intellectual conversation like I've learned so much from being around you men that I wouldn't want to lose that I do a podcast with two men and so I've learned a lot and so if If you took that away from me, I think I would be missing something that I would definitely it would be a void in my life, so I'm all for mixed relationships or mixed workplaces simply because you can learn from people.

I think you just have to know what's okay and what's not. I will say that the first time I met you, Jason, you walked in, six, six. I took a second look at you. You had that earring in your ear, but I knew better. I don't say anything because I didn't know how you would take it, you never know what people are like and you know if they're uncomfortable with something, if they're okay or if they're relaxed, if they're funny, you know and me. Just think you have to know what those boundaries are and you know once you build a relationship with people, you know, that's why I love working with men and women, before you respond and Shamika, I can let you back off.

Here I want to add that I am only afraid because I have worked long enough to have been in different situations with female employees, so I am very cautious in the workplace and also I can be as crude as Shamika, probably cruder. I grew up listening to Richard Pryor albums and that's where my sense of humor goes and, again, I was sitting here telling you that I used to write reviews on Galore and all that other stuff. and as a columnist, that's where I grew up writing, it's a solo act that's just me and then as far as, when I started getting into Sports Talk Radio, it was me working with a group of guys for the most part. in the 90s and 2000s and then I get quiet and defensive and a little distant because it's like if I let my whole personality out here I'd probably get in trouble and then I tend to hold back uh because I just I've seen and experienced so many things that Half the time it scares me.

It's been great working with all of you. I feel like I can be myself, but I just wanted to make that clear and give everyone a chance to I want to hear your opinions but I also want to tell you if you want to ask me something or reject something I've said, maybe what I'm saying sounds absolutely stupid. and I sound like a prayer, feel free to say anything you see. Where are you coming from, but I also mostly agree with Shamika. I can't imagine not being in a mixed work environment. I learned a lot from men.

I'm a boy's girl. I like being surrounded by boys. I learn a lot. about things that not all women can, I mean, you know, I know a lot of things about women, but being around a guy, you learn a lot more. How do you feel if you say I've never known anything but a male-dominated industry? through sports television for 13 years or whatever, I was in the studio, you know, day in and day out and then eventually I started traveling for games and being on the road and that was our football team, we would have the same team. every weekend and we all knew I was the only woman on one of those teams, there was another woman on a different team I worked on but for the most part it was just me the whole time and I feel like I've always been one from the guys, so I never felt uncomfortable in that environment, but I never thought about it anymore because that's the job I wanted to do.

I knew it going in and that's exactly what was going to be done, so Jill, what? and I'm sorry Tiffany, I also think that when you put too many women together and if it were all women it wouldn't be a good environment, so for me and I really want to hear Jill's effective perspective on what I've said and argued. On this show, I feel like the injection of women into Sports Talk Lane has softened the conversation now that people are sitting on the shows and the next thing you know you have to deal with the sensitivities of a woman and I've been around boys. look at people on shows women are waiting for Michelle Beadle used to do this to guys all the time, she would pounce if there was a chance to make them look sexist and she could go viral for criticizing Stephen A Smith or whatever or whoever either to make them look fixed and that's why I've been on shows where guys hold back and don't say what they really think because there's a woman in the conversation and he's scared to death that if he says something wrong she'll come back and well. you're sexist and blah blah blah and that's going to go viral and I've watched football shows too this is what frustrates me football shows and I'm sorry if it makes me look bad but I've never met a woman who knows the football as well as I know many men who know it better than me and I watch conversations when Samantha Ponders hosts an NFL show with a group of NFL players and coaches.

I look at the conversation. He's engaged because he has to stay at a level where she can participate and if she ever gets to her deepest level, she has nothing to offer or maybe she can't go on, she can't hear what's being said, that's interesting, needs to be investigated and so I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but uh uh, I talk in the locker room the way guys talk, we insult each other, wewe say semi-disrespectful things to no harm or fault, but when I look now and say well we've injected women into the Sports Talk space pretty much everywhere, that's why I still see men on TV crying, giving in to their emotions and faking it. that their feelings are hurt, something they would never have done if there wasn't a woman on the set or the entire stage.

The conversation has not become an emotional conversation. I've prepared them, that's really interesting because I think it not only speaks to the sports environment, but we've made it bad to be masculine and toxic masculinity and everything has been feminized, whether it's Sports Talk or just local news in daily life, um I think it's interesting, you know Sam Ponder replaces Chris Berman and that was a big change for ESPN and then you watch the Fox pregame show. Chris Thompson hosts the first show, but Kurt Menifee has the second show and everyone is there when you arrive. until that last hour right before the games they're all men and they all know, you know the ins and outs, you know most of them have the Hall of Fame jackets there.

I'm going to say this and please, God, Kirk Menifee, don't be offended. I'm not sure if Kurt Menifee knows more about football than Carissa Thompson, so I'm not sure if there's much difference there and I'm not saying that, I'm saying that to give credit to Karissa Thompson, two. I'm not trying to diss Curb Menifee, but he's not a former player, he's just an announcer and host, but I did it because appearances matter a lot more to women, so we're not really talking about a group of guys. Tom that they played tough sports, uh, I don't think for the most part Sam Ponder was, or yeah, she grew up, she didn't have a television, she was just a tomboy her whole life growing up and she was literally like, oh, I think I.

I'm going to do this television thing. She didn't know anything. I mean, she didn't have a television in her house when she was a kid. I understand that her husband is a former NFL quarterback, so she probably knows more than most, but when I watched that show. I I, it's limited where you can talk, eh, but more than anything it's almost like in the world of sports. I wish there were more like Megan Kelly in the political space, she is fearless and she can have any conversation a man can have. in the political space there is no harm, no fire and, again, it probably took him some time to get to where he is so brave, but it seems that in the world of sport he is so awake and so given to emotions that there just isn't enough of that. or not that Cassidy Hubbard is someone who I think is incredible and for me she should be one of the most important people in ESPN talks on the NBA.

I think she knows it inside and out. I think she has a pretty thick skin and I can get in there, but that's not the one that gets the headlining gigs, uh, and you know, you know, they'll call me anti-black for saying Malika Andrews, this is a little girl who didn't pay any dues that they have put there. because she looks good, you know, I'm off on a tangent and probably got into a lot of trouble. If you say "Sports," you can't say exactly what you mean. I think that's just me and I'm on guard. I'm sure some of these women, not all of course, might say some of the same things. and they wouldn't be offended, but now society is just like Jill said, we're all in this toxic masculinity thing where people are just afraid to be themselves like men are afraid to be who they are because you don't know if you're going to meet this woman who's going to laugh or she's going to go on Twitter and say this is how it made me uncomfortable, so I definitely understand why men are on their guard.

I definitely understand why men aren't really who they are. around a group of women because you just don't know at this point in life because now people are so quick to want a story so quick to want to know, get 15 minutes of coming dragging someone else down, you just don't know . I know who to trust, so I definitely understand why that is. I'm not going to put a name to the next comment, but people will know who or what I'm talking about, but I don't want to put a name. because I don't think it's personal to people, but what drives me crazy is that I've been on Twitter since 2009.

People have been criticizing me on Twitter and saying very mean things to me on Twitter since 2009. I don't care I see too many female hosts who They nail themselves to a cross and say oh this, these tweets, these emails that I got and that's what drives me crazy and P and I see guys come on shows and have conversations that they don't want to get into. those crosshairs of ever being accused of putting someone in a place where they can receive negative tweets and emails and maybe there are men who are just as soft and who complain and cry about the tweets and emails they receive, but that's which drives me crazy and So Jill, having pivoted into the political space, I imagine you'll get a lot, but my argument to everyone is that that's the price of admission, that's exactly the ante, this is one of the first things I tell young women coming up. to me and they said, okay, if I want to get in, if it's sports or politics or just television in general, I said, okay, you better have a thick skin because this comes with the job, it's just part of our society.

Twitter, it's very easy. to get them to message you half the time you don't even have to put your real name on your account so they can just sit back and type, and it makes it so easy that something they would never say to your face is something they have no problem with , you just send it, you know, you look at it and it's an interesting arena to work in, eh, but that's all part of the game, so, this is what you sign up for if you're a celebrity there's something that goes with you your life will be In the public image, if you are on television, people will simply be tweeting at you.

It is the give and take that is the decisions we make in life, so I am going to end on this note. I just wish people like you Jill Shamika Megan Kelly and maybe all of you would do this but it's like I see a guy crying over tweets and emails and he's a girl hey man you're not You're not tough enough to This, go flip burgers at McDonald's, go into Insurance, go into accounting, you're not tough enough for public discourse and to be a public intellectual and an expert, so leave, that's the message I think any man would give. .

I get it, it doesn't seem like we're giving that to women. I've seen videos of oh my gosh, let's read the mean tweets that so-and-so has, you know, I just want to fiddle and say, yeah, we do what we do. do here I think we really tell them how silly they look when they do it. I have a question for Geo, though I want to know if you've gone into any locker rooms and if there's anything you've seen that we can't discuss offline. much, much, in the past, bring back, bring back masculinity, although that is the general statement, we will be a better world with more masculinity, with men being masculine, not women, great job, ladies appreciate it , awesome, uh, get your Fearless Army loot in the store.

Blaze media Fearless Delano Squires please thank you okay welcome back let's go to Washington DC bringing our main man Delano Squires you know what I want. I want a more biblical view and perspective on this situation from Emmy aduko, uh, Adam Levine and the men, etc. That's why we end the show with the smartest man on the show and one of the most biblical-sounding people on our show and maybe in America, so Dee I want to start here with the Celtics and the decision they're potentially going to make. take. to discipline Emioduko because you know, having some kind of inappropriate sexual relationship with a Celtics subordinate, there are a lot of people who just want to forget this, man, this happens in sports, this happens in corporate America, why are they trying like this?

Tough, with a successful head coach, the Celtics seem to be taking a bit of a moral stance here and upholding company policy. Do you respect the Celtics for doing this? So, Jason, it's hard to put all of this into context until we know. I've got all the details right, when it first came out, I think the way it was leaked or the way it came out, I first saw it from Adrian Wojanowski, it was very vague and it was like, "Do you know any offense he did?" . You don't name it and then you know people start speculating about who the person might be and a woman's name, a vice president ended up getting dragged into this and an ESPN reporter said it's not her, until we get a better idea of which is the real one The crime was correct, so for example it could be that because you said he had a consensual sexual relationship with a subordinate they were dating, they felt good about it, people found out and felt that you knew she was getting preferential treatment, um and me.

I'm not even trying to be funny. I feel like I've seen her, so I'm going with that assumption, so put that, put that pin where it is, um, that's one thing, but let's say she was a woman who was well married and let's say her husband worked for the Celtics. , ended up getting fired or they engaged in certain types of conduct at the facility, you know, they were being careless, quote-unquote, in terms of how they handle their relationship, around the team that they built. To me, there's something very different about the franchise, like that. that, generally speaking, I believe that adultery is a sin, obviously yes, of course, as is fornication.

Do I think NBA teams typically take such a strong moral stance just for that infraction? No, some tell me there is something more. to history unless the Celtics want to take the lead and say that we, as a franchise, take power dynamics seriously when it comes to staff and subordinates, coaches and players, and you know the team members and we want to prove it to you. How much do we want to create an inclusive and welcoming environment, especially for women who want to have MBA jobs, and in doing so are we willing to punish severely? You know, one of the up-and-coming coaches in the league.

I could see that. position because that position would be motivated again by a sense of advocacy, you know, diversity, equity and inclusion, but again something seems to be missing some details that I would like to reveal. I feel pretty confident based on two or three people in the I know I've spoken with reports that this involves the wife of a high level executive and that the executive is furious and part of it seems like this is where I get a little antsy. because they say the executive is insisting on the long suspension, but I don't see any executive other than Brad Stevens who has the kind of influence to do that to the head coach who just took you to the NBA Finals, so it could see if and Again I've heard from people who are aware that this isn't the first time he's offended, so you know, I, I, and again, he's only been there a year and I said it before on the show and I want to ask you this.

He said we've created an environment of interpreting everything through this racial lens and anything that happens in the world we immediately go to the races and if that's the case, if that's the standard hmm, I can see why the Celtics would They feel boxed in. here a little bit because if they don't, if they don't filter or publish the information, they will be crucified either way and that's why the way this conversation has been racialized and the way I think the entire world has been racialized. I got to see guys like Emmy Aduke and I said this earlier on the show feeling bulletproof that he's untouchable because any action he takes will be defended and the organization that resides particularly in Boston and the way that everyone loves is like, "Well, Boston is the most racist place in the world and I can see it feeling bulletproof, so when I try to understand what's going on here, I think this is a successful employee that they've lost control of and that's part of the reason. why the discipline is so harsh so Jason I hadn't heard those other details and again if those things are true then that adds more texture to the story and that would make sense because no man wants to be fooled by another man, right? when you have to look at the guy who sleeps with your wife every day, when you walk through the doors of the facility, he smiles at you because he thinks you don't know, but you know because you have a private investigator and he You know. has been joking with your wife, no man likes that and in some ways, in terms of the sports world, a one year suspension is more merciful than an outright dismissal and depending on who this executive is, take over again that this is true and what kind of juice he has basically being excluded from the league because in Proverbs it talks about you know the sin of adultery, the right of Proverbs says look, you can't take, you know, burn coals in your chest in your chest and wait should not be burned, so in biblical times you sleep with a man's wife, he can kill you, so getting a one year reprieve is better than some sort of death sentence, so to speak , in whichhe means odoko, uh, you know. coaching career Now that being said, he may be the type of person who is careless and don't you know that he can't handle himself well?

He's a very successful coach, obviously in terms of his year, he took over a very good program. took him to the final, he's a handsome guy, he's been in a relationship with Nia Long for several years, so you know a lot of people, men and women, are envious of him, so he probably realizes, look, I have access to whoever and whatever you want in this facility, but every once in a while life will give you a gut check and you might Jason, remember, remember the video, uh, download with R Kelly, right? Mr Big, let R Kelly want to drive. his wife cared for his wife and Mr.

Big did not live in the friend, so he did not require all the men around him to be eunuchs. R Kelly slept with his wife and what did Mr. Big do? He put the hammer on it, right? I left him unrecognizable and that's usually what will happen if you sleep with a powerful man's wife, so a year suspension in that context may not be so bad for this, for this coach, but it's a bad look for everyone. and Jason. I want to echo your sentiment of the way this has been racialized and I was on Twitter before.

I saw Stephen A. Smith. I saw Robert Griffin. The third. I saw a lot of dimmer lights in the sports media and corporate press weighing in on this. where are they going to go oh why don't you talk about Brett Favre? Why isn't ESPN covering Brett Favre? um, because to your point, everything for them is racial right now if it had been a white coach, let's say, and a black subordinate then. It's power dynamics and then they're going to cite roots and say that white men have had access to black women since the plantation and so on, so this is what happens when you dismiss the scriptures as like your moral compass and the only thing what you think about is what role the white man played, what role the black man played and then you formulate your response based on that, so I even responded to a tweet from Robert Griffin III. because he said if you spend more time worrying about this than Brett Favre stealing 5 million from Mississippi, then you're part of the problem and my thing is if you spend more time on both of those things than the fact that a Super Bowling Champion and former Pro bowler supposedly started a fight that led to the death of a man in front of his wife and son, that his moral compass needs some serious recalibration and that's what he would use to describe to ESPN if it has any racial character.

From that angle, they're on it like a dog on a bone, but if it's not one they can play, then they have no interest in it, and that's why this whole thing is a habit that ESPN and other media outlets are promoting to just look at the world. through racial glasses, this is what I find so frustrating because this doesn't work for black people, the vast majority of them, this racial lens that they have everyone tuned into works for racial elites, they use it for black elites , they use it to improve their standing in Corporate America oh, we're going to hire more diversity and equity inclusion executives and we're going to hire more black head coaches and again everyone believes in this racial justice deal that never reaches the masses. benefits the elite and no one else and that is why this is so frustrating, it is as if we have completely moved away from analyzing any situation through a biblical lens and everything is interpreted through a racial lens and that is what which we're obviously trying to push back. against that in this program and the reason why this approach works or why we do it is because that lens works for everyone and that makes Christianity, a biblical worldview, actually filter down and benefit the poorest. among the poor, you know, while this little racing game they're playing benefits a handful of people like Stephen A Smith, who makes $13 million a year.

He will benefit Emmy Aduko. I guess he probably makes four or five million dollars a year, but it doesn't work for anyone else. it's completely unhealthy it's driving a wedge in this country you can't get to the facts you can't deal with the facts you can't it has corrupted the entire conversation and has everyone at each other's throats that's what absolutely frustrates me jason um like you said that It has really negative side effects for black masses. He encourages us not to take responsibility for our own behavior. Well, we are always our first step is to always look good.

Why don't you do it to the white person? You never know what, yeah, I shouldn't have done, where I went wrong, let me, let me try to make amends, it's always a comparison trap between us and white people, but you're right, one of the things I tweeted this. Earlier in the morning, now I have a kind of job where I can tweet during the day and not after five like Fred Flintstone, but I tweet this early in the morning in a tweet that Stacy Abrams sent, you know, she's applying. for the governor of Georgia and as is the case with all Democrats, she talks a lot about abortion and links it to black women, particularly low-income black women, and I said that the aristocracy, the black elite, the tenth talent, the right, black leadership. class like you, as you mentioned, are the greatest impediment to social, economic and spiritual progress in the black community because they reject the power of agency, um, they promote abortion as a moral good, they diminish the importance of the right of the nuclear family , encourage the government. dependency, incite anarchy and bastardize the faith of our ancestors, um, and these people at the top use the plight of poor black people to extract benefits for themselves and much of the black middle class, so our elite Black people really are the culture vultures, right?

That's why I think it was USA Today who published our article earlier this year where they said that two years after George Floyd's death, many companies promised more diversity in senior management and black women haven't realized that. diversity and I told myself that the death of George Floyd on A Street in Minneapolis has to do with some black women who went to Harvard, you know, were promoted to vice president of their law firm, but that's how they think correctly, they choose the corpses, especially the poor black ones they use. anything they can get that has a racial element to hold hostage the guilty white people who they say have all the power to kill George Floyd, you have to give me the day off because I'm stressed out that's why I live in California he was in Minneapolis but I'm so stressed you have to give me the day off or you have to donate to my organization or you have to hire me as a consultant for Dei right and let's be honest Jason, the people who are largely driving this, not exclusively, are black women, women educated black women, the Dei industry, at least from my first glance, I would say it's at least 75 black women.

All the other women, some of them I went to school with, it's diversity. equity, that inclusion is right and some of that, let's say some of that is helpful, right, they're trying to widen the net to reach a talent pool that maybe can't be reached otherwise, but a lot of this is about extortion, extortion, companies, extortion. Brands and they and they use the plight of poor black people to do that and that's why, um, these people, Stephen A Smith, Jamel Hills, Shannon Sharps, all of them, all the members of the aristocracy will jump in the middle of night on a fake hate crime, and even defending it even after it's been proven fake, but when it comes to real street crimes in cities, the same cities they live in are completely silent, you make an excellent point the other.

The reason I wanted to invite you is to talk about the monogamy angle. I just talked to Jill, Tiffany, and Shamika about this and asked them the question and wanted to ask them if it's unrealistic to expect monogamy from men. That's a great question. Isn't it realistic because for some men it seems that way? I personally know several women who have told me that they have never met a man in their life who hasn't cheated on his wife. So I could see why some women believe. that Jason gave our fallen nature, our sinful nature, the basic inclinations of a man, particularly when it comes to sex and sexual immorality, um, in the absence of a man who dedicates his life to Christ or some other religion that have strict prohibitions on adultery.

I'm not going to put my money on it, I'm telling you the truth so I can speak for myself. I could talk a little to the guys I know personally. Any other. If you ask me, could you sign the deed to your house? Know? I bet this man has been faithful to his life for his entire life. I won't do it now. It's a sad commentary on men. Yes and it is a recognition of our sinful nature. But I think monogamy is possible. The good thing, I think it's good for men, women and children because again, when you're married and I don't think Udoku is married to Nia Long, I think they have a long-term relationship, I don't think so. who are legally married, um, we'll leave that aside, um, when you are a person, man or woman, husband or wife, and you invite a third party to your marriage to your marriage bed, um, you are going to bring something serious, Serious. problems in your relationship and it's going to take time to not only get that person out of there but also to get that mistrust out of there and sometimes that takes years and sometimes it's a lifetime so it's not something that I think God should play with if You make a commitment to a woman, in front of friends and family, and God honors that commitment, because I think you know those commitments are worth making and keeping, and especially if you're a Christian man, that should be the expectation that you will. be faithful to your wife, but you and I know that even among the clergy, I mean, there are some types and I've named them before, so I'm not going to say their names now there are some types.

I have said this. I used to not even let my great-grandmother spend more than a day with some of these preachers I'm talking about because they have never shown the will, desire or ability to keep their hands off any woman for any length of time. For a while, you know one thing: by eliminating any discussion about a biblical worldview, we never got to have a discussion in society about the benefits of monogamy and all that in the entire world and I used to have this mentality that the more, better and better. The more you have, the more masculine you are and you know I'm ashamed of myself because it took me so many years to realize it, but my masculinity is not tied to that and that there are tremendous benefits to marriage and monogamy and what you can produce and not even we get to have that discussion because right now and I'll end this right now, our religion is race and that's again when every thought you have is tied together, well, how is this? play in the racial Olympics and virtually none of your thoughts are what God thinks about this race, it's your true religion and it's a shame that that's the society we're leaving for the young, but that's what we're doing.

I'll give you one last thought and then we'll get out of here and see everyone. Sure. I mean, you make an excellent point and I mean there was a point where adultery was a crime on the books because people took marriage seriously. true, they believed it was the union between a man and a woman, um, for a life with a husband and wife dedicated to each other and the fertility that arises from that relationship, but to the point, over the years, each part of us that marriage covenant that we have eliminated, we have eliminated the lifetime requirement, we have eliminated the requirement of a man, a man and a woman, um, the fertility of desire, all of those things have come to light, so now it's basically two adults in a consensual relationship with you tastes better than the average jewelry that's basically it um and I think it's a mistake because a society loses a lot when we get casual with uh you know our sexual nature and our sexual desires and we see Jason because when we, when we criticize the LGBT community, particularly gay men, when it comes to monkeypox and you read all the things about the urine orgies and all that other stuff, we see how You see an animalistic sexual nature and heterosexual men have that.

At our base level, our sinful nature is just as animalistic, so a guy who you know if he was into Stranger Nick or Playboy Ranch could express those same types of desires without any restrictions, so I think it's a mistake to look at . about adultery, as you know, a victimless crime or even considering sex as casual and that is and not here one of the things and really the only problem, the situation and the person that really brought this to light for me was all the conversation. around Bill Cosby and his charges and you know what it was, it's all kind of oh, he's about to buy NBC and all that, they don't want to see the black man and just that they're next, the only thing that nobody ever said : I don't think I've listened to any commentatorscultural figure, no religious figure, no DJ I know, no morning show host, say that Bill Cosby was cheating on his wife, that he was a serial womanizer for decades, and it didn't even come up now.

I'm not saying this is you know adultery is on the same criminal legal level as drugging women, which is the accusation against him and raping women, but at some point I think it should be raised as at least a A guy you know he was seriously unfaithful to his wife and I think you know we as a society should talk about that, but it never came up because we live in a culture that doesn't really value marriage, that doesn't value monogamy, um, and doesn't value. sex, so for us it's about individual pleasures and desires, um, and never about fidelity to God's design for that gift, so yeah, this situation really says a lot about our culture, um, in many ways, monogamy, race and you know. from the workplace conditions aspect, thanks Dee, great job as always.

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