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Does that number keep going down first? Does that number keep going down because that would be a nightmare for ticks and how fast it doesn't go down and how low does it go right before you start this, you only had a couple hundred? cases, when do we get back to a couple hundred new kovat cases? the overall hospitalization rate has decreased, the number of intubations has decreased, and even the number of new kovat cases has decreased, still not good, there were still 1,000 new kovat cases yesterday, so to speak. Focused, that would normally be terrible

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compared to where we were.

This is simply terrible news. 367 deaths, which is horrible and there is no relative context to the death. The dead is the dead. 367 people died. 367 families. What I've been working on. from day one is to make sure that people understand the facts that we are facing because this is a unique situation, the government can't really act unless the people fully support the action. What we have done here, the government could not do. a pure function of what people did, so my plan from the beginning has been to give people the facts and if they have the facts they will act responsibly, but they have to have the facts, they have to accept the plan and it really is a decision individual, right? who takes care of your health normally we depend on what I do can affect your health but it is really about giving everyone the information so that people can make their own decision and the great achievement in this period has been that when people understand the facts and trust the facts and understand them, do the right thing and that's a lesson that I hope people remember after this is all over, but we still have to remember the facts and we talk about reopening, we talk about Reimagining, let's start putting some meat on what we're talking about so people understand that the federal guidance from the CDC is that before we begin to reopen the state, the regional hospitalization rate must be declining for 14 days, okay, that's the decision of the CDC. guidance, the federal government leaves it in the hands of the states, it's up to the

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s, but they also give guidance and in this case I think the CDC guidance is correct, so we are monitoring the hospitalization rate.

We are monitoring regional hospitalization rates. He said this state is a very diverse state, the northern regions of the state are like the Midwest states, even in the west, and we have very different hospitalization rates, so we look at the rates across the state, so as in the regions in which we are going to reopen. phases of a regional analysis about what we call our economic regions that we have been working with the state and those regions have been working together on economic policy, etc., to analyze the regions that are existing coalitions actually works, but look at the regional analysis. a determination and then monitor everything that phase one of reopening will involve construction, construction and manufacturing activities, and within construction and manufacturing, those businesses that are low risk, there are a variety of construction activities, there are a variety of manufacturing activities, but those companies that PO are low risk within them, phase two would be more of a business-by-business analysis using the matrix that we have analyzed: how essential is a service that that business provides and how How risky is that business?

If you reopen that business, how much risk is it? incurring and how important it is for that business to reopen and that matrix will guide us through phase two in Phase Two when we get there, we need businesses to do that analysis, they have to think about how they are going to reopen with this quote . quote, new normal, what precautions are they going to take in the workplace, what safeguards are they going to implement, then it will largely depend on the companies, so we will leave two weeks between phases so that we can monitor the effect of what we just did Well, it is to take action and monitor for two weeks, which, according to experts, is the incubation period of the virus so that you can really see if you had an effect that increased the infection rate, which you would then see in tests of hospitalizations, etc. ., so that everyone understands the general risk that activity begins to increase, the infection rate increases two weeks to do that monitoring, those are the general lines of the reopening plan and then it goes into warnings, one warning is that it cannot do nothing in any region that will increase the number of visitors to that region, you have an entire multi-state region locked down here, you might open something in Syracuse or open something upstate where you now see license plates coming from Connecticut, New Jersey , people from In the state, everyone is coming to that area because they have been locked down and they are looking for an activity, so that is something we have to pay attention to and this is all done in a multi-state context, with our neighboring states being the most relevant, especially. downstate downstate is obviously the most complicated situation, it's New York City, it's Westchester, Nassau, Suffolk, the surrounding suburbs, multistate coordination is vital there because the New Jersey, Connecticut, New York area It's basically very mixed, people come and go, they

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in one place. work the other place so coordination is important you will get upstate coordination with Massachusetts is more important in some areas, in some parts of the state Pennsylvania coordination is more important so coordinating with the states that They are neighbors of that region in the south of the state, we have said that you have to coordinate the main activities, there are gears that interlock, you cannot turn one gear without turning the others, this is how the gears are removed, you keep trying to explain to my daughter transportation, parks, schools, beaches, these are all coordinated activities, right, you turn one, they all have to turn and that's true for New York City Nassau Suffolk Westchester they all have to coordinate and we are working with local businesses and leaders to do it again in Phase Three opening is my business reopening well what is your business and how do you do business in this new normal, do you normally have people in a conference room, are you going to to do that? you normally have people at workstations that are next to each other, are you planning to reopen that way so this isn't just one? equation of sides here, businesses develop a plan for how they would reopen given everything we know now and if you have a plan, show it at a time that really takes into account these new circumstances, more essential, lower risk, the way open a business will determine the risk.

They can't really determine how essential your services are, but they can determine how risky it would be to open them and open your business. We also need them to be creative and think outside the box and we have been talking to business leaders across the state, but some people even need a new economic model. We want to bring sports back so that this is an activity that people can

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on television. What sports can be done without an audience? What sports can be made to work economically without having to sell a seat at the stadium or arena, how do you make drive-in theaters?

How do you make different types of businesses that could really work in this environment? And again, they have to be creative and they have to think about it in the state, which has particular needs. We need some activities in downstate New York. You can't tell people in a dense urban environment during the summer months. We have nothing to do. Stay in your apartment with the three children. You know that doesn't work. there is also a sanity equation here that we have to take into consideration special attention for public housing residents special attention for low income communities who paid a higher price for this disease than anyone else we talk about the racial disparity among African Americans and Latinos We are increasing testing, we will have more to say about that this week, but low income communities need more assistance through this and I will also have to focus, we need to focus on the basics, we need more food banks, more assistance food there.

There are people who are literally fighting for food and child care. We have to make that more available and I want to bring in philanthropic organizations in a coordinated way. There is a lot of good will. Many people want to help. Philanthropies represent the positive force in our society. I want to make them part of this in a partnership and we are doing that, working on all of this with partners in the business community and the healthcare community because we have an economic strategy and we have a public health strategy which has to be working with companies that are creative and more reflective and health professionals who have just learned a very important lesson with what we went through and I don't want to lose that lesson in terms of companies that think about the new normal, thinking in terms of people.

How are you going to protect your people? What are you going to do differently with your employees? Your real physical space. What will the physical space look like when it reopens in this new normal? What are you doing with the PPE equipment? How are you cleaning? What is the hygiene? What is the access? What is the evaluation? How are people moved? What is the trip and transportation? And then what processes can you implement to make your business less risky? How can you train people? How can you communicate about this disease? do testing in your workplace, these are all factors that need to be considered by businesses that want to reopen quickly and again it's between the two, these are government decisions in association with business decisions because I think all business leaders understand that they can't go back to where were.

We have to step back in light of the circumstances that have developed and in the midst of all of this monitor the impact on public health, all the progress that we made in flattening that curve, we could lose it in a matter of days if we are not careful and it is important for people to understand what that really means and this gets very technical, but it's worth understanding. If I can understand it, anyone can understand it. They talk about the rate of increase in the spread of infection, right at zero R factor, but it's basically simple. if a person infects less than one person, that is the first category of or not a person affects less than one person, the next step is that a person affects a person who then infects another person 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 the worst situation is one person infects two people and then those two people go out and infect two people and that's fire through dry grass right now you're in bad shape that's where we were when this actually started We were there before we knew we were there.

Now we have the idea that the disease came from Europe to New York because it was already out of China when we realized that it went to Europe, it went to Italy, it went to the Lombardi district, it He got on a plane, came to New York and was here for a long time. earlier than we knew and it was spreading much earlier than we knew at a much higher rate, we have to boil it down to one person infecting another person, you can't really go beyond that range at this point, we're in point eight, one person infects eight percent of a person, so one person is infecting less than one person, which is good news, at that rate you see the virus decreasing in the north of the state.

Interestingly, again it's point nine statistically very close, but upstate the infection rate is one person infecting nine percent less. state, one person is infecting point seven five, okay, that's where we are statewide, if we keep the infection rate below one person, infecting one person, that's where the infection rate continues to fall, that's where you'll see the curve, so we have to stay there as you monitor it you have three basic dials number of hospitalizations that you see every day, I show you every day the number of hospitalizations and you can see that by region the number of antibody tests positives that's why testing is so important We're doing antibody testing across the state in the regions.

Antibody tests tell you how many people have been infected with a little delay because you only have the antibodies after you have had the virus, but it tells you with a delay how many. people have been infected the third dial are the diagnostic tests that are simply positive negative and tell you absolutely what your infection rate is those are the three dials that you are looking at you take these activities you look at those three dials and place your hand on the valve right on the activity valve, so open the valve a little. Phase one,

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those dials like a hawk and then adjust that's called the RT factor, transmission rate, what is the transmission rate of the virus?

Now we areat about point eight, you can't go above 1.2 1.2. You see the number going back up and we'll be sitting here talking about showing you a graph that appeared down and then up, that's what happens if the baud rate hits 1.2 so this is the balance we need to collectively achieve I'm going to go back to work I'm going to go back to work My children want to leave the house I need to do something that I understand we have to do do it intelligently and that is the definition of intelligence in this tax. Also, I don't want to just reopen, we learned a lot of lessons here the hard way, but we learned a lot of lessons and that's what reinventing means to me, how do we take the lessons?

We learned to take this pause in life and say that when we reopen we will be better and we will reimagine what our life is like and we will improve in this pause. Look even at the individual level. It's time to decompress a little or compress for a different set of factors, but I think everyone went through a period where they looked at their life and what they were doing and when someone, all of us, pulls the rug out from under you and you end up in a different place. , you know you just see life differently and I think that's true for most people, okay, after that reflection, how do you know what we've learned?

How do we improve and how do we build back better? Because it's not about going back to yesterday, there is no going back to yesterday in life, it's about moving forward, it's about taking. your experience in what you learned and how to have a positive effect and with that we want to end by simply sharing the story that taught me a lot: There is a tunnel in New York called the L train tunnel that people in New York City know very well. It is a tunnel that connects Manhattan to Brooklyn and 400,000 people use this train in this tunnel. 400,000 people is a larger group than many cities in this country have, so they had to close the tunnel because it was old and had problems.

Everyone looked at it and said we had to close the tunnel. 400,000 people couldn't go to work without that train and that all these complicated plans were going to mitigate the transportation problem and different buses and different cars and different bicycles and different horses, all the alternative transportation and this went on for years, everyone said there was to close the tunnel and that it was going to be closed for 15 to 18 months now, when the government says it will be closed for 15 to 18 months, I heard. 24 months - the rest of your life that's my government cynicism but that was the plan we'll close it rebuild the tunnel 15 months to 18 months the MTA this was going to be a massive disruption I hear a lot of complaints I get a few smart people Cornell engineers engineers From Columbia we go down to the tunnel and we look at it and the engineers say you know there's a different way to do this and they talk about techniques that they use in Europe and they say we couldn't just bring these techniques here and we wouldn't have to close the tunnel all the time .

We could just stop using it in the evenings and weekends and we can do all the repairs and we can do it with a partial shutdown for 15 months. The opposition. This new idea was a blast I was a busybody I didn't have an engineering degree They were outside experts How dare you question the bureaucracy? The bureaucracy knows better. It was a storm of opposition, but we did it anyway and moved on. with it and we rebuilt the tunnel and the tunnel is now made better than before with all these new techniques it opens today it opens today and the proof is in the pudding right, we went through this period of I don't believe it, I'm this is an interference, It opened today and it opens today, not in 15 months, but in just 12 months of a partial closure, so it's ahead of schedule, under budget, and never closed.

I pass on this story because you can question and you should question. why we do what we do why we do it that way I know we've always done it that way but why do we do it that way and why can't we do it any other way why not try this why not try that To the people doesn't like change, you know, we think we like change, but we don't really like change, we like control more than anything, right, but it's hard, it's hard to make changes, it's hard to make changes on your own. life let alone on a collective social level, but if you don't change you don't grow and if you don't take the risk of changing you don't have the benefit of moving forward, not everything has to be the way it is, so we just went through this wild period in the one that people walk around with masks not because I tell them to but because they understand that they need how to do it better, how do we improve it and let's use this period to do just that and we will do it and we will reinvent it and we will make it happen because we are New York tough, smart , disciplined, unified and loving and because we know we can, we know we can, we show we can question what you present, it seems to be an outline of a kind of philosophical approach to reopening, but what can people expect?, like dates, specific facts and opening hours, what are we going to get?

You've got them there, Jess, you've got May 15, the pause is statewide until May 15, at which point you've got the CDC guidance that says total hospitalization in hospitals is declining for 14 days, so We get to May 15, which regions have seen a decline for 14 days, well we assume we will have seen a decline in the state for 14 days, but what does it say? senior regions of the state decline for 14 days, that's where the conversation will start to get to phase 1 in that region, the regions that would be most likely to open sooner would be the northern regions of the state that will take, like downtown of New York, will take the In North Country, let's take the Mohawk Valley, those regions have seen lower numbers from day one, so there would be talk of opening phase 1 there, which is construction and manufacturing, with the warning not to do anything that attracts people from all walks of life and then people come from New York City, Massachusetts and Connecticut, also, construction by manufacturing is a business by business analysis, not all construction is the same, no All manufacturing is the same, what are those companies doing to incorporate safe procedures, but you would see that more likely in the northern areas of the state, if those numbers continue to decline the way the CDC recommends, the southern part of the state.

New York state is going to be more complicated, you can't do anything in New York City that isn't done in Suffolk. If we do not do that, then it is not done in Westchester, nothing can be done in the south of the state that we do not do in coordination mainly with Connecticut and New Jersey. Coordination does not mean total coherence, but it does mean coordination, we have to know what we are doing. We are doing something different. We've had issues when certain activities were open in Connecticut and you saw a lot of New York license plates in the Connecticut parking lot.

We open beaches in New York City, but Jersey does not open beaches. You'll see New Jersey. people on our beaches so they're not in unison, but before we do anything I want to make sure we know what we're doing because you'll see people react to different levels of activity in different communities, and you'll see manufacturing construction. will begin to come online in certain upstate regions after May 15 with certain precautions after May 15, yes schools are necessary for large scale business reopening so it really couldn't be reached a maximum phase 2 without opening schools. The question about schools will be do they reopen for the rest of the school year and then there will be a question?

Many local school districts are talking about summer school and are contemplating summer school to make up for some of the lost time. Remember this has a real problem. remote learning I think that will be one of the lessons that we learned remote learning is great in concept, we had to jump into it with both feet and we didn't really have the opportunity to scale it up in many of the school districts that We have 700 school districts in the state, Many of them say they want to do summer school because they want to get some of that class time back so that we have to sit down while we go see any of these things. we're really comfortable getting too far ahead, you know you want to talk about a two week period.

I think it's a smart period to talk about anyone who sits here and says, well, I'll tell you what's going to happen in a month. way, I wouldn't believe that individual districts right now are trying to put together their budgets, you presented a financial plan that said a broad-based cut was coming, so what guidance for them, what should they expect?, both leaders, well, you have to put together a budget, you know they want to call, looking at it, they understand that you said 20% is the right number. My nature plan doesn't have an Arad, what not, but they should have one.

I said in the financial plan that it could be up to 20.% additional up to 20% additional reduction on May 15th what May 1st was the first checkpoint on May 1st we will know exactly what the income is we will know exactly where we are with Washington and if we have more money we will release a plan by mid-May, that still gives school districts time to make their budgets, so between now and May 15 we will have more clarity and more specificity in the financial plan in At this time, we inform you that this is our position. That's where the revenue picture is, those are the facts and by the time you put your votes together on the school budget you'll have those numbers and we'll have that moment.

I regret that his executive order places school budget votes after June 1. know when they will be how they will be done by mail by meeting yes, I don't know if we're not there yet presentation I've heard a lot about business and the private sector, but I have union leaders and reactions like we have I don't want to be guinea pigs about the first one . There are workers. They are the first to leave. Have you worked out a plan or spacing for social distancing? Yes, well, we are part of them when they talk about opening a government. office that is not open now we are part of that same analysis in terms of business we would not open any government office that does not have all those social distancing measures reconfiguration of work by location etc so we would do the same thing that we are asking companies to do, yes Yes, we are planning to return in phases, workforce reduction, more space, etc. and then we have certain functions that are more essential than others.

You also know the same thing I'm asking of companies. It would be easy for me to say that all state agencies are essential, yes, but there are all state agencies that are essential, otherwise we wouldn't have them, but there are some that are more essential than others in the short term to a business, yes, all. The division is essential, I understand that, but in the short term, do you have more essential divisions than others that you could bring back and do spatial distancing, etc. in your workplace? It's also an important factor here, that's implicit I think, but let me make it explicit, okay, kind of wrong.

It's not implied, the important factor here is what people do, that has been the factor from day one. Andrew, why do you spend so much time going over all the facts? Because I need people to understand so they can really do it right or not. I told you. the facts on why i think they need to wear a mask if people don't wear a mask do we have the ability to force people to wear a mask? 18 million people don't, so they have to understand it and if they understand it they will do the right thing I think if they think that my facts don't add up or my conclusion doesn't add up then they don't wear the mask fortunately they wear the mask in this phase one aperture monitor monitor monitor that assumes that yes they are going to be responsible in their behavior that now they can go out and go to a new store that opened, it is okay if they wear a mask and wash their hands, that is a scenario if they go to work and they are wearing a mask and maintain social distancing and do not become careless, do not become undisciplined, that is a situation where personal behavior changes.

I tell you we're talking about a window from point eight to point two, that's all. We're talking about we can go through it like a wind through reeds, so it depends on what people do, how smart they are, and how disciplined they are throughout this whole process. We'll show a workplace that's socially distant, people are wearing their masks, they're not. If we go to a cafe, there is no congregation, transport is adapted, we will show that what we do is just a mistake to show that businesses are complying with the regulations, they have to give us a plan before we say they can reopen.

We are talking to companies now, literally, individual companies, we have groups that have been created, our meeting with companies, talking to companies, Steve Cohen, who was a former secretary, Bill Melrose, a former, we are Terry, to me, they have been doing this for weeks. here, in a meeting, a sessioninformative tried his questions and ran away. I don't know if there was a connection between the two, but they've been talking to companies that have submitted individual business plans because even construction, manufacturing, which are in phase one, yeah, what? construction, how will manufacturing operate, it can be anything, how will your business operate in this quote-unquote new normal?

And that's business by business, right where I said with the three dials, you have a hospitalization rate that now you know, we have a new system in locating each hospital in the state day by day gives us their hospitalization rate, so check one, check two, it's the antibody testing that we're now expanding on a large scale across the state and the regional antibody testing tells you how many people were infected with the two week delay, okay because that's about two weeks to develop the antibodies , that's the second dial, the third dial is the diagnostic testing statewide and by region, this is what we got last week when we did the testing last week, we were in Buffalo and we tested three percent of the population tested positive this week four percent of the population is positive oh maybe that's statistically relevant irrelevant four days later five percent wow, close the valve so you have those three dials those three dials hospitalization rate testing rate antibodies positive diagnosis positive negative test rate give you the Transmission Ray, which is how fast the virus spreads.

Yes, that's why we've said that all of this depends on testing, because without testing you only have one dial you only have the hospitalization tire and the hospitalization dial is a little bit misleading because I'm cheating it tells you what it tells you but it tells you people that they got infected at some period during the last two weeks or maybe three weeks and they are severely infected so they had to go to a hospital, but that's it, that hospitalization rate gives you the antibody test and the diagnostics give you a higher level of information by region, one of the areas that was designed in a temporary In the hospital, infection rates are going down, the work has been completed there, but if they don't have patients, as far as I know, What is done now with those facilities, with that particular facility, that doesn't seem to be very useful, yes, today?

We are in good shape and today that would be a true statement. Do you know if that will be his true statement in 60 days? So what would you do with the facilities? Yes, but what would you do if you were the guy you wanted? I would leave it right there because you don't know what it's going to be, so transfer patients from a nursing home. Let's go back to where we started. A nursing home can only provide care to a patient they believe they can provide adequate care to if they cannot. appropriate care for a patient, they must transfer that patient if they cannot find an alternative nursing home or facility.

The Health Department will find an alternative nursing home or facility. We have vacancies in nursing homes and in the facilities there is no nursing home that says, "I have John, I can't take care of John, I don't know where to send him, so call the Health Department and we will find a bed for John in a facility that can take care of you, that's how it works. one story said that a nursing home said they wanted to send someone to the Comfort, which was the boat the federal government gave us and the Department of Health said they can't send them to the Comfort.

Yes, a nursing home cannot send the person comfort because that is not the agreement with the federal government comfort only two hospital referrals, so the person was evaluated in a hospital first, but forget about the comfort. comfort if a nursing home calls and says I need to send, I can't take care of this person, we'll find a bed for that person, period, but it doesn't, at least a mixed message from the March 25 memo that said, you know what you cannot deny admission or readmission just because of a suspicious boogeyman you were in facility you have covered your back at that facility that facility if they are going to take care of you if they are going to take care of you you must quarantine you must have PPE for the staff must follow these guidelines or they say I can't take care of John I can't take care of him I'm not equipped I don't have the space the quarantine I don't have the staff I don't have the PPE I can't take care of John I'm going to transfer John to another facility or I'm going to call the Health Department and tell them.

I will say come pick up John, but if you stay with John and I pay you to stay with John or John's family pays you to stay with John, then you have to give John, the proper attention and here there is attention suitable for a person who is Cobra, Sir Alec Baldwin, a video was released in which he is asked to grant clemencies for fraud to people in prison in the prison system. Do you have any plans to do that? do it, we've been doing it, I haven't heard their comments, broader leniency when it comes to your upbringing, you know, I'm going by what honorable populations are, pregnant inmates, what if they're violent and they're just getting started your sentence specifically to call us? for you know, prisoners who are near the end of their sentences within a year or what we've been doing, what we've been doing, the Department of Agriculture is watching, just, you know these stories about milk dumping, they really don't I understand. what are the economic forces where they have too much and we have talked to the Department of Agriculture see if there is a way to buy it, we are talking about food banks in New York City for low income communities and then We are talking about dumping milk up north from New York state, right, I don't understand it, so that's exactly the issue we're looking at and if there's a way for the state to purchase as part of these food bank programs, for example, we'll do that. that one of the things is that the New York City schools bought a lot of products from upstate New York because we worked, we worked very hard to develop that relationship, apparently the schools' purchases have decreased or they are different purchases, no I know exactly details, but anyway we can fix that, we will see it, we see domestic violence increasing, we see parental trends in alcoholism increasing, we see some trends that say drug use is increasing, the needs of mental health are increasing, do not underestimate the stress that this situation has created the abnormal circumstances it has created.

I don't know if I have a job. I don't receive a check. The bills keep coming. I see no light at the end of the tunnel and I'm locked in. my house and I'm under tremendous stress and then I have this additional stress of being in a situation that I've never been in before in my life, yeah, that's a toxic mix, so when we talk about reopening, getting people out to do some activities, places where people can walk just something that you know, I say ironically it's the sanity index, but you know that people need to know that there is an opening, that there is a future, that there is hope that someone is doing something and then you need a relief valve only in one day. day by day so that people have some relief in their

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s, some encouragement, this process emphasizes the importance that health workers have even outside of the crisis, that being said, that sheds some kind of light or a emergency; oh, that's a good point, I don't know.

I don't know if we can get to that problem with this situation. I am aware of it. I don't know if not. I don't know how we can help those people around here. They have expressed some opinion to me. to them, that's smart, not so stubborn, just a cool, moody guy, you know Marc Marc, and then we'll get back to what we looked at, we look at the death rate by region and we look at the hospitalizations that basically track more or less, we know statistically what the variation is between the two, the mortality rate, we look at the hospitalization of workers, that's the initial part, it's kind of newer cases, so you know what the capacity of the system is that We still know it as a proportion.

About 25 to 30 percent of all hospitalizations due to Cove end up in the ICU and 25 to 30 percent, not 80 percent of those people end up in intubation and then that death rate is quite high, so We work when the governor speaks. about hospitalizations, that's that whole process that is factored into the reopening dial, not really, yeah, I remember the train derails here, the train derails when you overwhelm the health system, that's when everything goes wrong , that was Italy, that's what We were very concerned because the infection rate continues to increase, there will be a mortality rate associated with that infection rate, but first there will be a collapse of the hospital system and there will be people in the halls of Gurney who do not They will receive attention.

We worried about that, that's what frankly petrified us and that's why we increased all the hospital capacity, all these additional facilities, that's why that hospitalization rate, 1000 people were admitted to a hospital today, that many people who enter the hospital, that number increases too much. those emergency rooms we go back to where we were transporting equipment throughout the system transporting patients throughout the system that is the first indicator warning sign the CDC calculated the hospitalization rate I don't know their methodology to tell you the truth that we see In both, Jessie, take that last part, what would you say to business owners, particularly upstate, who are being absolutely hit by this economically?

What kind of words of hope? What kind of hope come? Words of comfort and you offer them or you know this will work well. improve, this will end with X destination, well, you know, X date, no one has wave, which could return in the fall. true, no one is giving a date to anyone here, but in the short term the numbers are going down everything we have done is working the rates are going down the hospitals did a phenomenal job but they were not overwhelmed and we coordinated health care services the policies are working Now we are looking at a relatively short period of time, 14 days of rise, if you don't have 14 days of decline, no one would say to be reckless and open anyway.

That doesn't help any business leader in this state start incrementally. which is what everyone says is building and manufacturing the part that you wouldn't have and the business owners that are hurting, retail stores, hospitality, hotels, etc., that's a more problematic area to open, even in some of the states rushing to open. those retail stores, Jesse, they're still trying to figure out how to do it, they kind of left it in the bud: some retail store owners are opening, some aren't opening, some are letting people in, some aren't letting them in so It is a complex sector to deal with hospitality and hotels.

You know that it is difficult to take these precautions in a hotel environment, but there is no doubt that at this moment we have been through the worst and as long as we act prudently in the future, the worst should happen. Sports are over, can you imagine knowing that Yankee games are held in an empty Yankee Stadium down south? I asked for. I asked these. I have spoken to many of the sports owners and sports companies. Look, I don't know, it's none of my business. Don't run I don't know the economics, but if you had an operation, if your choice was for the players to stay home, I don't know what the players get when they stay home per their contract, but my guess is the players get less money or nothing. of money, right? if you could, if you could make the economy work without seat sales properly and you could make the teams play without seat sales, but you had televised, then you would have the television revenue and whatever else came with it, you know we're in a different place.

You know, be creative, try to figure it out, but if the players could be paid more than staying home and the owners would get some income instead of a complete shutdown, why not? But. I have spoken to several sports owners. I don't want to go into names. but it depends, I know enough to know the economics of baseball, a little different than the economics of basketball, a little different than the economics of other sports, so it would have to be up to them to do an economic analysis that says yes, some income. It's better than no income and my players are willing to negotiate a contract reduction and if they could do it, yes, but everyone has to think outside the box, because there is nothing, okay?