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Trump, Modi And Controversy

Trump, Modi And Controversy
all right this is a new episode of truth be told I'm free the sorcerer and we're talking about the big wizard

Trump

in India for just 2 days but there's so much buzz around it there's a new wall that has been built in Amitha bath and we know

Trump

likes himself a good wall and we understand that the city of Ahmedabad is spending between 80 crore rupees and a hundred crore rupees on a three hour visit what's the buzz about why are these trips important to us as a country and are we spending too much money to help us understand what's really going on face senior journalist TJ Chaudhary joins me in the studio but shaadi thank you so much for making time for truth be told and I know that you've been looking at all of this the buzz around

Trump

do you think that it's too much money it's too much hype would you explain to us why as a country right now we need a visit like this well if you were to look at the mutation given by Prime Minister

Modi

to President Donald

Trump

of the u.s. to come and visit they didn't work out earlier then they asked for him to come for the Republic Day celebrations that they turned down now it suits them in a sense I see it as a part kickoff of his own campaign election campaign and the American Indian community is quite powerful in several states of the United States so he may think it's a good time to visit India to accept from mr.

Modi

's invitation and send a clear signal transcend a clear signal back...
trump modi and controversy
home to these Indian Americans or American Indians whatever you want real Indian Americans who have not by and large voted for his party in the past so I think I can see where he is coming from but where are we going like where are we I tell you what it may be right or wrong to spend that much money of course Donald

Trump

has said Prime Minister

Modi

said millions of people will yes I mean his mental numbers make this statement now four times way to his own media where he said Prime Minister

Modi

has promised me that 7 million people would be lining the streets of Ahmedabad from the airport to the location of the stadium now seven million is seventy land which is the population or everybody so I mean you know do if we shouldn't be taking

Trump

seriously anymore given the kind of things he says but it does seem like a Lally more than an actual visit of sorts well this would the millions by present rump does put pressure on the Government of India a government of Gujarat to but you know mobilize numbers which I'm sure they're doing cleaning up the city walls are going up or down we don't know finally where they'll be at six foot turf powerful to hide the slum areas of course there is a there is a unintended benefit for the people if the city gets cleaned up if things get you know organized which were not done earlier which happens when a VIP comes but that a part yes to spend hundred crores and what we should certainly ask what is going to be the benefit...
trump modi and controversy
because this trade agreement is not going through that is pretty well it's a very tricky one yes it's so you know it's stuck on medical equipment on dairy products and you say if I made for a second just explain to our audience what this is so India used to be part of a trade agreement with the US which was for a group of developing countries where we were allowed to export some of our stuff but we weren't taking all of their stuff in return Donald

Trump

and his team kicked us out of that agreement last year and our you know External Affairs Ministry you've been trying very hard over the last one year to go back into some level but we have not reached an agreement and

Trump

actually made a statement saying they're not treating us very well in that agreement suggesting that we're not gonna close it in this trip so that brings us back then to what you were saying of he has said you know you say two words to the effect that I hope it'll happen in the future meaning it'll happen before my election so if you have a bigger thing in course but we'll tell you later therefore what I believe we know the trade agreement which would have given us economic benefit is not happening therefore why are we welcoming him with open I'm knocking wrong that he is the president of the United States I think it may be because we are facing a lot of flak on CA YES on what the government has done in Jammu and Kashmir abrogation of article 370 and there have...
trump modi and controversy
been many voices whether it's in the media where is this Foreign Relations Committee that Congress committee etc etcetera European Parliament yes yeah that's right so the Western world has been critical of what has been done therefore if you get somebody like Donald

Trump

coming it will be seen as a huge endorsement of what the government has done then these small committees may not matter and that is the kind of perception battle I think the government is trying to fight and of course mr.

Modi

is given to doing things big Holi

Modi

and now you know do

Trump

became shorter but we've also apparently bought 2.4 billion dollars worth of helicopters for our Navy from the u.s. around this trip ok is this normal because or is this something that happens around trips like this you know what I find overall what we have done this is not just now but in the past also we don't bargain as hard on the economic issues the economic goodies which will benefit our people or technology transfer of the time that we should go for I don't mean the bugger technologies where is the West does that we go for you know getting some kind of statement on Kashmir much more the immediate political benefit and I think this trip is also part of that trend you know we are looking for endorsements on the steps that the government of India is taken from the particularly from the Western world and not you've not been able to break through as far as the trade agreement is concerned and...
they think we are bargaining hard on whether is on pricing or other issues on dairy products you know in yet let's see what it means well you want to ask you this now we both have a fair level of experience with the Indian media and the way the media sort of goes completely bonkers on events like this is it also likely to sort of eclipsed everything else that's going on in the country for the next several days where people will only be talking about what

trump

et and what he did and where he went and you know whether these shook hands that they didn't shake hands and what the body language was well it says there is no affair about going on in our country right well that is a given that we can expect that everything else gets subsumed do this visit till it's happen and of course we all love tamasha as we all love not hunkies and you know we like performances of this kind we all do and India more than other countries so mr. Moody plays to that and Donald

Trump

is going to play to that also even his political high stakes in his own country well if I may slip in a question on a slightly sort of adjacent topic to this that's the topic of say Shahin bog and sort of the mini shinebox that are popped up all over the country we have Hyderabad and Calcutta I Mumbai and you know Chennai on last ground Lucknow where there are women actually now in sittings Muslim women in sittings obviously a

trump

may come and go but this has shown her sort of you know there's...
certain acity here that perhaps nobody expected there was also some talk that after the Delhi elections are over because this is all political it'll all disappear but has it do you believe that while this tamasha of a large visit from

trump

will come and go the message of Scheinberg is now global I think Cheyenne bog has been watched with great interest I'm all over India of course as you say several shinebox have taken place and women have muslim women particularly of course young people have stood by them but i have not seen you know will muslim women come out the way they have done sitting there week after week with their children and you can call it paranoia on the part about the future but they think we prefer to I would shine by women say I prefer to die here than to die in detention camps now you can say okay very unreasonable that's not the way what we are putting things out Prime Minister keep saying that but I would have personally liked him to have called a group and engage with them as the head of the Indian family but that's not happened so far I wish I had made that offered that is also not so far happened they are taking a softer route through the court yes - rather than removing them forcibly because the implications will be huge if some violence - takes place but I'd say this to you that we are seeing something unprecedented in terms of the empowerment of the Muslim women and the courage they have shown and I think we are in the process P...
probably look back fail we a new leadership is getting thrown up in different ways younger people who are talking about you know the right to equality I've seen a political families where the young people are saying this is not acceptable that inequality be a principle that India subscribes to is not acceptable everybody is equal and that's where commitment to secularism comes and many things flow from that so I think what the political manifestation of this upsurge that's taking place Muslims universities of India I'm at me party winning with the kind of despite the time them device similar campaign I think there's something very significant happening at the ground level all right something significant is happening and a big blockbuster sort of visit by

Trump

might filibuster might might actually eclipse for two days but it won't change what's happening on the ground New Jersey thank you so much for speaking to me here on truth be told if that brings us to a wrap remember if you have specific questions about things we want us to take up on the show drop us a comment in the comment section thanks for watching you