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Trevor Noah Unpacks Religion, Societal Changes & Problematic Culture In America

Trevor Noah Unpacks Religion, Societal Changes & Problematic Culture In America
Breakfast Club yeah it's the world motivators morning soda Breakfast Club Halloween to God Angelia these are interviews on a little mini vacation we got a special guest in the building my man

Trevor

Noah

is hey what's going on thanks for having me everybody how do you feel travel I've always wanted to know why do you call it the world's most dangerous show what what is that about um I think it might have been more dangerous than it used to be meaning that people used to actually be afraid to come up here Oh like the M&M 1/8 mile thing we kind of like would say what people thought about us before you know and then they come on the show no no no I just wanted that you never know we used to have t-shirts that's it I survived The Breakfast Club I like that yeah I would like one of those t-shirts so what do you think is gonna happen when this whole thing with Donald Trump one day hopefully really soon comes to an end you think there'll be tons of movies and when it comes to an end it's not coming to an end I hope so here's here's the thing I I think people take granted this guy feels like he was robbed of the election when he won what is he gonna do when he loses yeah I'm gonna be real about this by the way I just I I think people take for granted that that guy thinks everything is a conspiracy

Trevor

you're smarter than me please explain to the people cuz I've been trying to tell people just it's not gonna be a peaceful...
trevor noah unpacks religion societal changes problematic culture in america
transfer of power I don't think it could be a transfer of power at all I don't think he's going anywhere I don't think Donald Trump does anything normally I wouldn't be shocked if he just goes like I'm not leaving the way I leave in I could see him just being like I'm not leaving they were fake Gladys 3,000,000 fake Mexicans voted I'm not leaving and they're like and you know what's weird about

America

as

America

has all these rules where you guys have just agreed to things but it's not like written down properly and then they'll just be like but you're supposed to leave Donald he's like I'm not leaving and whenever a bar will bother to do you say we didn't exactly Supreme Court you know what I love about whenever you say stuff like this people be like well you know in our Constitution I'll command Constitution does not care about the Constitution you see how he is it makes great material but it's also like this is amazing that this is even happening yeah you look at them saying yes we did quid pro quo is okay I don't think it makes great material to be honest I think I think things that make great material things that you have to turn into Tyrael what I don't like about Donald Trump is a comedian is like anyone can just do a Donald Trump joke it it's too easy yeah so like what I try and do is I try and use Donald Trump to talk about other stories other things that are happening in the world...
trevor noah unpacks religion societal changes problematic culture in america
so we get to talk about Finland because of Donald Trump you get to talk about what's happening you know and like random country you fight with New Zealand you'll have beef with like no way you'll talk about Greenland he'll so I want to talk about that stuff and then just use him but if I can I don't talk about him Oh question is reporting on this administration actually fun because this is some real serious that we deal with was it is it do you look at it can you make a joke out yeah of course yeah here's the thing I'm not gonna give Donald Trump the pleasure of being the boogey man you know what I mean he's like he he wishes he was that that's why he's got that face yeah he does no sirree he wants you to he wants to be that dude who everyone's like wow I'm so afraid of him I'm man you gotta laugh at the guy you don't I'm saying you you've got a laugh at people like him because I think leaders like that sometimes they they command or they demand a respect that they don't deserve and in my honest opinion that's one of the great things you can do to leaders like this is you laugh you laugh at the it's absurd that they do and you call out the crazy things that they say but how funny is fascism though it's not fascism yet that's their no but that's that's the thing about

America

is like look the road to fascism has always been paved with democracy yes but but I don't think we should...
trevor noah unpacks religion societal changes problematic culture in america
live in an alarmist place where we go like it's happening that Donald Trump is not Hitler you know what I mean it's not yet but he's not now and the thing is

America

is in a place where like for the most part guys have built a pretty solid country you know what I mean for the most part like the fact that people can't be talking about impeachment this is bits it's a solid process yeah there's been a few you know I always think Donald Trump pokes holes in your boat like he shows you all the leaks are hmm but for the most part Charlemagne I don't think I don't think you're there yet I think you'll feel it when it's coming okay yes it's I feel it coming it's the fact that he just did not give a about democracy in any way shape or form he's lawless he like he doesn't care yeah but the biggest thing you guys have in your favor is your military your military doesn't go they like your military likes following the rules yeah they love following the rules and that's the big thing in every country around the world when fascism comes the guy goes like you're military with me and they're like general with you and then there's a coup so turn the military against the people yeah but I mean I don't I don't see that happening in

America

the military goes we go with the rules and that's it now do you think people will forgive Donald Trump if he was singing a Fuji song I think we will be more impressed...
that he knows a Fugees song oh that's a funny idea I'm just picturing Donald Trump sitting there with a selfie camera seeing the food ready or not here I come you can we played that up here actually all you do yes in the room of report right your advice that you gave to artists to just do like how they do radio versions yeah so here's what I was saying is like I think I'd like it's a joke but I mean look I get it I get the confusion you know and I think in

America

I understand that there's a there's a there's a fundamental confusion that happens in and around hip-hop and some people don't understand the sensitivities that they need to have in and around words that they're using on it's like it's not like you can't use the word you can use it but then don't be shocked when something happens to you absolutely no and so you've got to be the kind of person who says look man I understand the sensitivities around this I may have grown up with hip-hop I may have identified with black

culture

but I also understand funtom fundamentally as a person you got to be like you could be the kind of person who says look I also understand that I'm not black or I have not lived the black experience I may have lived as a part of it right but there's something that comes with that way as black people we go like yo dude it's like the one the one perk to the oppression is getting the n-word in a weird way you know like if...
you're a heterosexual man singing a woman's lyrics they'll change those words lights a suit who they are here's the thing with me people censor themselves all that you you give a wrapped around your mom when you were young yeah everyone sense that they were like no one no one like they no one slipped up instead of curse word in front of their mom or their grand or they answer something everyone knows how to censor themselves right especially when it comes to hip-hop so I don't get why people make it such a tough that wall just like it's my favorite song I just I can't what am I supposed to do what about when you caught a bum the plain white devil's advocate when you caught up in the moment when you caught up in the moment a concert are you in the car Eli sometimes you might not caught up in that you never caught up in the moment man there's no such thing you boy you don't know the lyric the n-word just pops round the corner surprises you you didn't know what coming feeling because I never hesitate to put it oh I didn't expect that caught me off guard Charlemagne I have to say it I did I did agree to that rappers have the power to change the narrative though yeah well I was saying it as a joke and I mean I was just like just like they should just make like another version radio I think they should make like it like a non non black people version that everyone can rap along to like they just find like an alternate word and then...
everyone can just rap you know what I mean and I use the word it never feels good using it and I also feel like imagine you was teasing somebody their whole life and then they finally started calling themselves exactly calling exact an insult right that's not what I think Oh why he would look at the n-word yeah I also think white people didn't think the n-word could be cool like that I think that that that pisses a few white people off is they thought it was only gonna be like a word of oppression and then black people made it a cool thing and they're like I want it back now it's like no no no it's done like why do y'all call yourselves that I know I understand this I don't think there's a right or wrong answer mhm right I just know that it's black people who should be deciding the things that's all I know but it's hard to individualize like say well this person grew up in then it's just there's no way you can make a rule there's no right or wrong answer I get like there's a lot of older black people who'd be like you just you we gotta get rid of that word and it never existed and you you holding us back and then young black people are like no people are still gonna say that word so the I'm gonna I'm gonna own that word as a young black man I'm gonna own that what is a young black woman I'm gonna own that word before somebody tries to own me with that word and I think that's what a lot of...
people are saying but I don't think that there's a wrong answer yeah you know it's just personal preference some people curse some people don't curse some people will say the n-word some people won't say the n-word but if you are not black I can save you a lot of stress in your life by just saying don't do it I used the word in context I don't use it as a term oh you don't now like this morning I did donkey today or for this teacher named mr. Miller who part of as part of his science curriculum he had the girls twerking in class yes he gave him $25 and I play a game called guess what race it is and I'm like no guess even I don't agree with that I don't think there is context I'll be honest with you I think I think to be honest with you I feel like sometimes providing context for the word gives it a little bit more of the power that it used to have when in fact we're trying to get it away from that in my opinion but there's no answer there's a higher frequency words I don't think yeah but what I'm saying no what I'm saying is this is I go I don't think they should be like I don't think there is context to the n-word right it's it's the same way so I'll give you an example is like like when you hang out with a group of women they'll say to each other in like five different ways I don't know I don't understand what's going on I don't even understand how they're...
doing that you can't do it I never jump in I never jump in and be like yeah I would never say this but I don't I really don't understand what the what the thing is did you see and that's that's great that's great you don't remember the gay community will say things to each other where I'm like I'm not stepping into this using these words it is not my place no do I wish for it to be my place that's my thing I saw young to have a

Noah

at the Bernie Sanders rally yeah it's funny you said you said there's somewhat much my best friend from home sent that to me he's like damn Bernie makes you look real young thank you for thank you for that thank you very much everyone everyone says that every time anyone sees any type of mixed-race child it's mine it's not funny for me yeah cause like you know people Charmaine look your kid like it's like no you can't just say that you should say I saw a kid who looks like I say my kids like you're not just like that's like I don't I don't don't even want to put that into the universe that there's just like like a random little Trevon or running babies though I just know man you Obama j : Drake that's like the mixed-race baby that's it those are the four okay okay I'll take it I'll take an equivalent for the word is there one yeah we had Kappa Kappa interesting interesting story this is how while this is this is why I like I so when people...
argue with me about the world the word this is what I say is I go I don't agree with the idea of saying you should and the word or get rid of the word or you I don't think you can I'll tell you why because I don't think the word the word itself has the power it's the power that comes with the word that it's like that's associated to the word does that make sense so what the n-word represents especially in

America

is a system of oppression and what happens to black people in the country but when you travel to other countries they have other words for what they did to black people as well so in South Africa the word the n-word doesn't mean anything in the same way but we have the word kafir or cafard and it came from the Arabic kaffir which means one who does not believe in Allah and so what happened is during the spice trade like the the the the the Muslim traders landed in South Africa and they met like the Zulus and the British because was like a good you know it was a colonized space and they were like yo do you guys believe in Allah and they were like no we got another dude who got a contract with him and they were like alright kaffir all of you calf ears which means non-believer and then the white people were like oh they talking to you guys they were like yeah all the black people you the kafirs and then that that became the work but on our side no one made it no one made it cool no one like owned it no one so the word has basically Jeff...
died because we didn't have rap maybe that's what it is we never app yeah have you gone to a Kanye Sunday service yet no I haven't are you interested in that what do you think about it I I'm torn I'm torn because I grew up in a very religious family so like I love Kanye Sunday service I love the music and I love the way he's composed of things but it throws me off sometimes when it's like a hip-hop song that's been turned into gospel and I just think of this because of my mom like you know if you grew up in a religious house you always thinking about like what would your mom say about what you you know so like I don't i don't i still don't bless i don't i don't say like jesus christ this is crazy i don't say that just cuz of my mom Salome's like I say you know Jesus yeah that that was that was my life man yeah you didn't i'll Joba witness oh yeah oh Lord yeah I see why you say no no I get that I get that I'm just saying yeah no you had a gruff yeah no you had it really rough you know but you know what yeah I did now you had it wrong the holidays like I had like fun

religion

that's what I had Jehovah's Witness not funny

religion

and I was fun

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evangelical dancing in the church water drovers writtens don't they believe that heaven is full already they believe only 144,000 are going ahead full people were looking on my door telling me yo you want to join this but it's full I'm...
sorry why would I want to join no cuz heaven is gonna be on earth boobs 144,000 who got in a Gaza and I remember the first time I knocked on the door and I spoke to him I was like wait so it's full he's like no it's not force 144,000 is like but when when did you start like I always look at it as exclusive membership I think that we had too many people in here and it's full you were telling me in what how many years is the job is Witness church being around and you telling me all that time a hundred and forty no man that's one

religion

I like the idea that I'm gonna be part of a

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where I'm gonna be in heaven but think about if we talk about people being sinless and not committing any sin that's why I say it's not fun

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that's why it's not fun

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exactly what I'm talking about Kevin's the high club that's why I'm saying the

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I grew up in was a fun

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all you have to do is accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you were getting into heaven believed in Him shall not perish but have eternal life you know Roseau ever believed in him a sinner yeah everyone is a sinner and that's what makes

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my

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fun Charlemagne so heaven much I mean hell must be empty imagine you gonna go to heaven there's no sinners so hell is empty by that logic no no no by that logic it's the people who have not accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior that's what it's about...
mm-hmm that's all it's about you got to think of heaven like a club right okay there's people who are in the clubs people who are not in the club now when they say you come in the club as a dress code right so they say no open-toed shoes and no caps and so what you can do is you can put on a pair of shoes outside the club and you can take your cap off and then you come in that's accepting Jesus as you learn and save it now you're the club but then there's some people who are just refusing their whole lives to take off the cap now you gonna stand outside with your cap in your sandals look but that's your vibe I'm fine with that what do you think of the concept of people putting Jesus before God who does that everyone wait who's everyone that's good these are statements next to me show me is everyone glad show me your step where do you get these things from act like Jesus is God but Jesus is God that don't make any sense in the Bible says you shouldn't God says don't put no it on my level no no no okay which Bible are you referring to coach the LeBron James right because because according to the Bible put into the Bible it's the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost and it's all one so it's really complicated yeah yeah but never but they yeah but they never said they were one thing they never said they were one thing no but they said it was like a group so this isn't a group we knew it was a group no they said...
it's by my eye the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost it's the Holy Trinity the one and the same how do you think the Holy Ghost feels you know you got a name I think I think the Holy Ghost is living the best life can you imagine you like God as well but you get to walk in the streets no one's asking for selfies that's a pretty dope life to live imagine if you Jesus people are hanging on the cross Jesus coming back oh Jesus I wouldn't come back I'd be like yo last time they killed me didn't even have guns you gonna come back now if I'm the Holy Ghost I am living the best life possible you are God without any of the stress huh if you like you like God the Father you gotta worry about like people who worshipping false idols they burning said they beep a white beard pain it's too much stress Holy Ghost is living the life Jesus is more popular than God Jesus died for our sins yes and Jesus has pictures yes connect them to every holiday if you're marketing around that is I pray to God every day yeah but you know you don't you don't think about God like you think about Jesus you know God think about Jesus mean cuz I think I really think they're two different entities okay I understand why you say that and these people named hisses out here I will say this I'll say this look I'll say this I think if if it is because I've always struggled with I like I like

religion

I like a lot of its teachings right what I struggle with...
is the church I struggle with the people attached to the church and I struggle with the things that they do in the name of the church yes so I've always struggled with that my whole life right but I do love the core teachings of

religion

if you apply them correctly because I was tell this to people the Bible has every side to every story you get I'm saying so in the Bible it'll tell you that you need to chop somebody's head off if they're doing some but it also says you need to forgive them it also says you need to go to war it says you need to go you need to you need to focus on peace you know it says you so for me I like I like those teachings because if you read the Bible from from cover to cover it's a balanced book it really is a balanced book it's flaw too though yeah of could but everything is but it's a balanced book you apply it if you you can apply the Bible however you want to apply them you're right everyone can use it okay with that said what about people who use it to justify being homophobic yeah but that's my point but the Bible also says judge not lest you be judged first we are they always forget that yeah but that's the but that's my everyone don't forget during the biggest periods of racism in

America

in South Africa and other parts of the world what did they use the Bible Bible it talked about misogyny ssin they said look at these scriptures that say you should not be mixing of the mixing and they choose...
select phrases in the Bible that then justify what they everyone can live it why blow roughly mask exactly everyone can use the Bible to justify whatever they wanted to say no for doing what okay boy that's that's the more the power is power in the tone people use scripture for like that well done no I didn't see this would that make you not want to go to that person's Terzi but this is what I'm saying to you about the church here's my problem my problem is you should not be supporting a person you should be supporting your God you should be in your

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and I think a lot of the time churches and pastors have taken that power and that mantle and they've created their own world of being a false idol and that's part of the problem do you know me the same thing that happens in politics in

America

I don't understand why people support the politician you should be supporting your your your policies you should say this is what I need done in this country this is what I want to see happen with education this is what I want to see happen with you shouldn't care if the politician gets taken down because that's what happens is people get obsessed with the politician and so it becomes a cultural personality and now people don't know how to separate the person from the policies and so if your politician gets taken down you like no no no they couldn't have done that no I don't accept it why because you're afraid that that...
means now your policies have been undermined where is he a few voice said I support these policies and I don't support in fact in

America

I feel like people should swap the way they treat sports with the way they treat politics I fee like people who treat sports in a really healthy manner in sports they go this is my team this is what we're about if there's players who are doing some crazy that they don't agree with they're not playing well they're not you know not passing the ball not scoring what are they what do they say welcome kick him out of the seats right and you kick that coach out kick that player out that's not what this team is about yes but then with politics people are like no no that's we're just gonna keep him we just you know what I mean that's the problem with

America

now right because whether you're Republican or Democrat you should care about the country's democracy the Constitution so that guy's not good for none of it right but the problem is you only have two parties in

America

yeah imagine if you only had two sports teams people would kill each other whereas now you can team up you can be like yo who you Celtics who you Heat all right we both hate the Lakers yeah why not why not we can be friends you shouldn't saying yeah and I think that's that's a healthier way to live in politics I don't think there's two parties I'm not gonna lie to you I think that's probably one of...
the biggest things that's gonna divide and keep on dividing

America

is the idea that there are only two ideas of how to live life there are not two ideas on anything you guys have 17 types of cereal you only got two political parties we have more than 17 sides a series exactly and you go you go out to political parties only there's others but I feel like no but I mean it's going to create a system where you continuously go what are you I'm a republic I'm a Democrat it's it's over you know you don't go anywhere from there I don't think you can't go anywhere from that I think we should I think

America

ns should start talking to people like you more and the reason I say that like you're from South Africa so your view of

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n politics is very objective I don't think it's I think it's harp you would have a nuanced objective view of

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n politics when you're from here well I mean it's a it's as objective as I can be considering your conditioning is being conditioned so I only I only know what I know I've only been taught what I've been taught my ideas change all the time so I don't know how objective I am as a person yeah I must I'm as objective as the things I've learned yes and let me ask you this people are very fanatical over

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and over politics right so have you gotten any crazy like death threats or people coming at you yeah but death threats are par for the course I mean...
hello that's you love death threats I mean you were a strange person doesn't mean I'm gonna love them Malcolm X it if you don't have no critics do you likely have no different critics and I will take critics if you are out there criticize me send the tweets do not threaten my life with anything ever serious enough that you had to take action no no no no I've been I've been really lucky look here's the thing as well like I I grew up in a world where like you know violence and death weren't the furthest realities from what you existed within you get I'm saying so for me I know it's maybe it's as you know knock on wood things to say but I feel like the people who send the threats are not the ones you got to worry about right cuz there it's always the ones just quiet and then pops up out of nowhere so the ones who send the death threats I'm like alright vent went vent as much as you need to vent but you know those are not the ones you should be worrying about a lot of the time I was reading this article in The Guardian and the headline was wire South African city still so segregated 25 years after apartheid did you read that article no I've read a bunch of articles about that though what well here's here's here's the difficulty that I struggle with in life I think too many times we focus on integration not realizing that what we're really striving for in society and my humble opinion is equal access to...
opportunity that's what we're really looking for I don't think we should have to live in a world where we force everybody to live in like it's like yo if Charlemagne if you want to live in a black community that specifically does black things that's good for you that's fine I'm poor umpire with the education system there are many types of communities like there's communities out there the Amish community they'll be like yeah we live in our little Amish community I don't see anything wrong with that I don't think that they should get fewer things in life I don't think they should have inferior access to anything because they have chosen to be with their people and I think that's that's oftentimes the problem I've had is like people keep fighting for integration but what they don't realize is a lot of the time the reason black people were trying to move to white neighborhoods is because they had sanitation they had electricity they had better schools they had and so your mind went I gotta move there gets better food choices but the truth is we should have been getting everywhere that's my opinion and so I don't think we should have to live in a world where everyone is you know now it's like oh no do you want to live in a what if

Trevor

goes I want to live in a South African community in New York am I not allowed to do that I would think that you would want to that we are natural tribal people I...
wouldn't be where I'm all right I don't want to do that that's why I left but yes but I'm not gonna live in the South African community in New York why would I come all the way here community I just want to live in a world where it does not matter where you live you know it should not matter that yeah you know what you you live in the blackest part of Harlem you get a school that is just as good as the best part of Manhattan hey you know you grow up in Compton you have access to the best policing services as if you live in bel-air and I think that's what we should be striving towards you don't have to try and get everyone to live in everyone's area now we're counting people out and trying to make sure the colors are the right ratios it's more about can everyone live the best life possible and can we make sure that it doesn't change depending on the color of their skin and where they live yeah the best I know I love coming outside and seeing black people what a lot of people will be like oh I'm moving out and you know whatever but I just feel like it's nice you come outside how you doing what's good and it just feels good like to go to a good it feels good like so for instance I grew up my whole life Sunday mornings music playing my neighbors cleaning the stoop doing something but that's like the

culture

that I grew up and so for me if there is music playing really loud on a Saturday or Sunday morning I have never...
thought to myself I need to call the police or I need to tell somebody about I'm just like it's life and in your community there are certain shared rules and ideas that you have where you go like yeah this is this what happens a guy's gonna be on the corner playing music loud and that's what he does during the day I'm not offended by that man because I don't see that as an assault on me or who I am but then some communities where people like lights out everybody keep it can you keep it down please everybody keep it down you see I'm saying right and so I get them so we want to live where we like things some people go live on a golf estate with each other because they like we all like golf yeah I don't like off so I'm not gonna go live in a golf estates but as I say equal opportunity equal access I think that's the biggest thing people have been fighting about yeah and the funny thing is I I agree with you but it's hard I guess to live around who you want to live around because even though you may be black it may not be people that are financially as well off as you so you want to live around rich people is what you're saying you know people know that the house with where the money is yeah it's like the projects would be right here but then right across the street is you know houses every community but here's my thing though here's my thing so have you ever been South Africa but it was like a biggie you know so you...
forget where we are in the world no no I forget where we are in the world so I hope you went to Soweto when you were there but if you didn't I think when I went Soweto is a township in South Africa fundamentally one of the biggest hoods in the world that's what it was created as right it was designed by the apartheid government to be destroyed as quickly as possible should the black people rise many people who were working and that's what it was it was like how do we get black people to live in a space that's close enough to the city that they can come work but not so close that they can just walk here and visit us when we don't want them to mmm that community has and has continued to become a bastion of like growth we're like the first black owned mall in South Africa built and owned was was in Soweto like you look at how houses have like people did what you're saying one dude became rich and he was like I'm not leaving I'm gonna build a nice house yeah that's what we need and then another person was like well then I'm gonna build a nice out and I'm gonna build a nice house and I'm gonna build a nice and I do think there's something inspiring about there's something inspiring about going man everyone goes I got a get out of the hood and I get why I get why you sometimes even need to do that but there's also something about beautiful saying no I'm gonna get the hood out of here yeah I transform your...
neighborhood but what's your resource right lock by block block by block which i think is something that's happening now but I do it did it is it is slowly happening yeah it really is slowly happening and that's and that's something that I that I that I I appreciate it when people do that you know is just finding a way to infuse resources into their community and go like no this let's take the money and put it back in let's put it back in let's put it back and let's build ourselves up as well because two things are happening at the same time my mother Way says this to me she goes while you are fighting to receive what you deserve from your government or from your world you also need to be fighting to give it to yourself two things are happening at the same time and I think as the black community yes we should always be fighting for equality and equal access to resources because we are taxpayers you get I'm saying it's not like we're second-class citizens in any way shape or form so you should be fighting for the things that you deserve but at the same time we must remember to fight to give it to our selves right you know what I mean you've got two different spaces where it's like yeah you've also got a bit of personal responsibility there's no one thing that exists in isolation and that's what I'm always trying to do on my side is go like yes fight for the thing but remember this stuff that I can be doing for...
myself as well what could you apply from your upbringing in South Africa to

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n

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that could benefit us oh man what could I apply that's that's a tough one one thing I will say is this one of the biggest things I feel happened in

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you know because of the slave trade is it wasn't just people that were stolen from Africa it wasn't just lives that were stolen from Africa the more I read about it the more I understand that fundamentally they stole one of the most valuable things you can steal from a person and that is the knowledge of your

culture

the knowledge of who you are a part of just because you are and that's such a beautiful powerful thing to have as a human being is just to be like yeah this is this is who I am and this is what I do and it's like it's like I get to it's my team it's my team whether I like it or not whether they like me or not they always gonna be my team and so one thing I've always admired about black

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ns and this something that I feel has traversed the globe is black

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ns created a

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unto themselves which is beautiful you know hip-hop and an style of language and and and and and dressing and everything and and that became a

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but I feel like over time there are a few negative aspects of black

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that have moved forward that don't need to move forward you know so like I don't think we need to celebrate ignorance I genuinely don't I don't think we need...
to shun people who are ignorant because we understand how ignorant comes to be it is something that is taught or not taught and that is the patient yeah but I'm like sometimes we we make it seem like it's just like you don't I mean it's like yeah ma'am do you like gay what do you do with your money you're gonna vet ma'am man I don't invest what I look like a white man it's like no no but that's the trick that's the trick right is this like investing is not a white man's thing oh you say you're doing something that oh you must be raised hell you got money you exactly you doing those white people things now exact you see now what we're now we're gonna make it a crooked teeth is a black thing now but you get I don't want to work so we do that in South Africa as well like and and but but luckily we still have

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but like I remember a time when I I thought it was cool and guys I wrote my first really nice BMW and I pull into the the gas station and the the guy pouring the gas comes up to the car knees like show him LUMO what's in lapa which means like hey the white man what's going on and you sees I'm know why he knows but it's like a term of like you'd say it to another black person like you made it man you got that white man money yeah I don't like how you got that white man success and then I used to think it was cool and then I realizes like no we're reinforcing the idea that...
success is inherently white yes that white is the period exactly that that that you go as a black person you have now aspired to whiteness as opposed to aspiring to success and then you go like no we can be successful whether you're black whether you're Latino whether you're Asian whether you're Indian whether you whatever it's like yes we have lived in the time where historically white people have been kicking ass for a long time so everyone thinks that that is the color of success but it's not true success is success and we need to strive towards that and I appreciate you saying we don't need to shun people who do ignorant things but we do have educate people yeah cuz we see that happening all the time no III honestly don't have time for that I genuinely I I try my utmost to live in a world where I go like I don't I'm gonna judge you because of how you use language I'm not gonna judge you because of how you think if I know that you didn't grow up in a world where you were given you engage inside yeah always I love talking to people I don't agree with it's one of my favorite things you hate castle coaches genuine here's what I don't like about canceled

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I don't like that there are no terms I don't like that canceled

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does not come with any specified type of punitive like like I like like rules or or ideas so a lot of the people who participate in canceled

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are the same people who are...
for prison reform and I know the two are not the exact same thing but it operates in the same space of a society what do we hope to do with people who have wronged us do we wish to banish them to the outskirts of civilization or do we wish to educate them inform them punish them when necessary and then rehabilitate them and have them come back into society so if somebody says something trash online right and a lot of it I would say like 9 out of 10 people they're not trying they're not trying to say something trash they're not trying to be a they're not try a lot of the time people are not trying and then people come in and they go you need to be canceled your trash you that's what you cancel all right what does canceled mean I probably canceled is inherently what it means is you are now out stood from our society is the question is I go like where do you think those people go we're creating a community of canceled people who have no option other than to be cancelled with each other and those people are not gonna be though they have no vested interest coming sorry no but I think I don't I don't think it is in many ways that neighborhood will be fired things back to normal well there's varying degrees of being cancelled it's this very increase I agree with you some of it is superficial people are cancelled and then they just carry on the next day right but I I do think it would be nice to say like hey how do we how do we engage with this...
person hey Charlemagne you said this and it hurt me all right how do we talk to Charlemagne and go like yo this is the thing this is the thing you know you never know Charlemagne might be like I I wasn't trying to do that and now I understand but you know when people are not likely to join in with you is when you just pile on and you like screw you showed me a piece of trash where and then persons back against the wall they like yeah well you know what that's why I like everybody and that's what you yeah that's why you need Redemption

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but what you also said creates these super villains right yeah cuz we got all the people who genuinely does now do people that like that person genuinely does so now it's a wall you you you you have a moment as a person you have a moment as a person I remember when I was in school I got bullied hard when I was in what was at grade four or five and these kids were relentless I mean every single recess they would believe and they just teamed up as a group and they just came after me about what anything man they were like you oldest kids got a fat ass he's got like wide feet he's got what like I'm sure that stuck with me put like deck until like Sinbad became a legend wait Sinbad set me free cuz before then I was just like I'm doomed in this world and so and so like these kids and you know kids they don't need a thing that's the thing about kids they don't need a thing and these kids came at...
me and it was relentless and I will never forget the day when I decided I was like you know what I'm gonna be their enemy I'm gonna I'm gonna dedicate every single moment of my day in my life to destroying them is right and I stay right here that's what happens too but that's what happens to any person when you come at them the animal in us comes out we're in a corner and we go okay I guess this is it now but if you give people an option to join you if you give people an option to join you then you exist in a space where it's like okay okay hey not cool and look there's always gonna be people who are

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regardless but I think a lot of people out there are willing to say I messed up I wasn't trying to do that on my bed or now I understand and I think we should live in a world where we give people an opportunity to come back in and since you're matters definitely I always said that a lot of people say they don't agree that I completely agree with that yeah I also think it's ridiculous to judge people based off Oh stuff you know I'm saying like old things they say it like Muhammad Ali said a person who thinks the same way at 50 that he did at 30 right 20 years of his life right so how can you just money based off what these say that 20 years old here's my bigger issue with that my bigger issue is not that we judge people about what they said or did a long time ago I have two problems one I find it interesting that...
we live in a

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where people will judge just random civilians by what they did back in the day more than they will judge politicians my tweets have never affected your housing my tweets have never affected your schools but people treat it like that whereas politicians just go like well my changed and I my evolved my views evolved and people like yeah but the person has changed now it's like yeah but those things actually affected you or right and the second part of it is to your point I think we always forget when we judge people for what they said in the past that they were part of a society I see this happen all the time with comedians people go like I can't believe this comedian was telling these joke look at these clips from 1985 look what this comedian was saying look at then you're in 85 and you're like no but you realize there's an audience there right you realize comedians we are we are existing in society people are laughing with us in our shows we are a snapshot of the time but things Chris Rock is saying today are happening today when he's talking about mass shootings it's because they're happening right now when you go back in time he's talking about what's happening back then Billy Dee Williams he's talking about what's happening back then Eddie Murphy apologized for something right and I said he wouldn't say that now but of course he wouldn't no no there's like no comedian who would say something...
that they said 20 years ago if the society has changed from 20 especially if you're talking about society some comedians have benign jokes just about the world what's up with escalators you ever notice how that's that's different but if you talk about politics and if you talk about the world that is constantly and always changing and evolving and so my issue is we oftentimes want to pin it on individuals because we do not want to blame ourselves as a society yes we do not want to admit that we were all a part of that

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you're gonna make it like one comedian with his or her tweets was being home phobic and that's what was blocking gay people all over

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I think if you look deeper you will find that everyone was a part of that everyone was opposed to gay marriage everyone didn't think that gay people should exist a lot of people thought gay people had problems in their heads and now when societies move forward people now want to look back and then point at one person be like you taught that on your own did they think it on their own mmm and I think a lot of the time we're afraid as society or we don't want to admit the truth in society that we existed as a

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and that's the beauty we're supposed to move forward we are supposed to move forward from your past we but we constantly do that cuz Barack Obama was opposed to gay marriage do you not I mean which politician wasn't think about it and then now now...
every politician and then there's still politicians you're against gay marriage but most of society goes like no we made a mistake and we're moving everywhere against legalizing marijuana exactly it was criminalized look at how many members of the black community were like no we need this three strikes rule we need a war on drugs we need to come up and now now people look back you can only work with the information you have when you have that information and oftentimes in society we learn we change we evolve what I don't like is isolating individuals and saying you are the problem you alone were the problem it's like no you were clearly a part of a world that thought that this was acceptable because there's a reason the tweets didn't blow up back then people were like yeah whatever now what about Matt Lauer what are your thoughts and what's happening with him no Jesus I don't know cuz a new thing comes out every week what are you talking about specifically has metal our there's something new so I don't want to go on record saying anything you like it's all in the ones I'm just like you know I don't think and you like what'd you talk about the what like what happened I don't which which thing in particular you're talking about right now well now is the I think she was a producer that came forward and yeah that she had a relationship with him but that she told him no to anal and then it still happened and then...
he retaliated against her this is the first time he's really like given a whole statement about you know how this is just ridiculous now and I'm gonna stand up for myself and so on and so forth what did you think the whole story is they slept together okay he asked to have anal sex with her uh-huh she said no right and they slept together several times after that okay after the initial time when she said she was raped they slept together several times after that right and I think this is the constant conversation that we need to talk about in society and we you know what's crazy to me is we have we've had like no forum we have no guidelines we have no large discussions around consent okay let's be honest consent is something that has been robbed of many individuals in their lives right

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fundamentally you know I remember beautiful quote someone said to me where they're like

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was built on a world of no consent black bodies were taken without their consent women's bodies were taken without their consent and this has happened around the world consent has always been growing and evolving and I understand why some people would say oh but then she was sleeping with him and what it's like yeah man if you understand the human mind and if you know how we are a person who does something wrong to you has an interesting hold over you sometimes taking some power from you I remember laughing with lmran laughing with my bullies in school you know...
I remember like hanging out with them sometimes doesn't mean that they weren't bullying me I remember guys in the hood who would like robbed you at the corner it's like a regular thing they were just rob you out you just pop hey what's going on what you got it and then pockets out but then some days you would be standing with them hanging out because sometimes you felt like maybe and I don't know what it is psychologically I'm not a psychologist but I know like sometimes you like maybe I can win them over maybe it's in my head maybe and sometimes you feel like it's your thoughts that's the thing you like maybe maybe it's me me maybe maybe this is just the world maybe this is so I get where some people are oh but then the person's like yo someone can do something wrong to you people stay in abusive relationships apparently be like why are you still with him alright people people stay in a beautiful ation ships with their parents all the time you know and you'd be like why do you still love your parents they were yeah but then my mom's man life our minds the world are actually complicated I don't think that should take away from somebody saying hey I said no and I don't care if there's a boyfriend or a husband I said no and he didn't listen mm-hmm there was a time when marital rape wasn't a thing right yes no like you can't rape your wife she's your wife in Psych yeah but cuz she's your wife...
doesn't she she still has the right to say no and I think that's what that's what a lot of people are struggling with in this is they're going like but I I don't understand what why would you go back why would just like why why would we do anything in this world a lot of the time people go back to the people who've hurt them people stay with the people who are hurting them and I think we need to get out of existing in a world where we blame the victims in those situations and start looking at the situations that have created or the situations that have allowed them to become victims how can we even begin to have all of these conversations though everything from like cancer

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with society change my honestly don't know I don't know if you let you because we're all on you individual you cheese yeah but we need to I honestly think we need to like just consent is one of the big ones where I go my mission in life now is to try and find a way for us to sit down and write some sort of manifesto or a thing that people people don't know what the rules are and nobody wants to talk about this no one else to be honest about it people like what are the rules and from every like we all will existed in the world where it's like okay rape was rape and everyone there was like the big things but then as the me to movement grew I started learning from women where I was like wait that's part of it I didn't know I didn't do it but I...
didn't know I didn't know what rape

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was like you know what rape is yes exactly I think a lot of people are learning men and women I've actually learned were they like oh I didn't actually think of it that way I thought I was a willing participant and whoa I thought that was the rule and that's how it was supposed to be and I think it would be great if somewhere somehow we just sat down and had a conversation as people went hey you could like write down a list of rules how would people approach situations how would they work through situations because I remember asking like women at my office one day I said hey can ask you can ask an honest question like we went we did there's sexual harassment training right everyone goes through it and there were a few things I was like you don't allow to approach someone at work and this and this and then I was like but some people are married in the office I was like hey when when you're due to approach you with like what was that and they'll be like all those romantic in those flirty and he'd leave things that my dear he doesn't have fallen that you can't rape your wife no no but then but then they would go it's not though because that's not consent like the person didn't say no approach married so what I'm saying is a person they're not then I would ask and then the interesting answer was a lot of the women would go if any other guy had done that it would have...
been creepy but I liked him and I thought it was cute that he was leaving things on my desk every day and I said but you do realize now as the boss if I saw that I'd have to shut that down because some guy can't be just leaving things on your on your desk every day that's that could be sexual harassment and they're like damn I never thought yeah you don't realize how confusing that is it's very computer it's wrong or it's wrong it can't be wrong based off if I like you it but it is wrong based off if I like you're not and that is exactly consensual I mean thanks that is that is life is it not yeah is it not if I come and I hug you as your friend a charlemagne I hug you a hug is not a wrong thing but if some random person in the street comes and grabs you and hugs you you're like don't you don't know me it is wrong because of how you feel about the person and that is part of the conflict that's what makes consent complicated that happens all the time yeah because of who we are what I don't want you you don't have a rights to my body just because you know me from that way or whatever approach me as a human being greet me if you ask me can I get a hug I can say yes or no I also don't owe you a hug because you watch my show I will choose to give you a hug or I will say no thank you but what I'm saying is consent is directly linked to whether or not the person that is the ring has a woman ever made you...
uncomfortable at work no never at work no I'm really lucky never ever ever at work question what in the world yes I say yes mm-hmm when I hug you I noticed you have an erection right then what I'm asking what is it well you see your narcissism has caused you to believe that I didn't come with an erection you think I might have had a hard-on because I was hanging out with my woman and then looks like Oh should this sharla me let me go say hi and then you think that this erection is for you now you don't know what's going on with the blood in my body Charlamagne how dare you I don't know whoa no we can't I genuinely think we can we just have to find the space and we'll find a way I'll make it my mission I promise you this it has to be the right time to write please listen I've tried I tried four or five years ago to have these same conversations right but but but sometimes people may go is Charlemagne the right guy to have it at that time I think it needs to be a conversation led by women and then men participated but no I was having a conversation based off things that I've been oh I understand but I'm just saying if you if you if you situated instrumental listen to instead of trying to lead the conversation to hear what women have to say but I was acknowledging that I've done that yo they had it they said I raped my wife because I read an article in Teen Vogue in the team vote the article was drunk sex ring right I was...
talking about the first time me and my wife had sex with each other same I guess kind of the same thing what you're saying yeah we were drunk but clickbait is dangerous I remember that happening to you people choose to take a thing I mean it's the same thing they do the mark ronson I'm sapiosexual he never said I'm sapiosexual many people are like he's on the TV show someone's like all that sapiosexual hey mark would you be safe it's people who say they are only attracted to people's intelligence not gender and not looks not anything it's a thing people put in there like they're like tinder profiles it's trash anyway so what I'm saying is clickbait is dangerous because it removes nuance right I think what you were talking about is an interesting conversation now you oftentimes are not the most delicate when speaking about certain issues and so I understand why you get into trouble a lot of the time but I do get the conversation you were trying to have and it is a tough one we don't talk enough about how to engage with each other when there is alcohol people just say because there's a woman if she was next day would have said oh my god did we I didn't even mean to do that I was so drunk did we have sex right if she didn't like you she and she didn't want to do it in retrospect the next day and had no idea it happens she could say right it's it's it's a that is it that is I promise you now that is a...
really complicated conversation again that we're not having properly because think about how how much we worked on the messaging in around drinking and driving yes we hard and they told us look drinking and drive you cannot drink and drive if you've had a drink you throw those keys away okay and it became this messaging and this campaign so that people got it in their heads and there's always gonna be people who drink and drive but now it's like even your friends will be like yo are you drinking man come on man come on grab an uber what's what are you doing and and and I think that messaging became solid and it became clear that drinking and driving do not mix you should not be doing it and then people were like is it one drink is it to drink people like yo man drinking and driving do not mix don't even take a chance and I've witnessed the shift in my life where when it started we're like yeah I'm fine to now being like you know what I think I'm gonna drink tonight mm-hmm let me just let me just take an uber I'm not even gonna take my car I think I'm gonna drink easier can call a car exactly and look at what we've gotten in society we think ahead now and I think we haven't gotten to that place when it comes to sex and alcohol we almost don't think ahead of going like okay hey I'm going to drink tonight therefore I need to limit whether or not I can or cannot have sex like how do we how do we work through that we...
haven't thought about it and so what you have is groups of people leaving clubs together I don't know your level of sobriety you don't know mine some of my friends don't know when I'm drunk they really don't they're just be like

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you drink out like man I can't believe how I'll call hit me harder than I thought because usually if I get drunk i'ma pass out like fall asleep oh right I just pass right out and go and wake up in the morning with the best sleep I've ever had and have no idea like and people be like oh my god you were so funny last night but usually I think with me and my friends when we go out it's always we go together we leave together and we make sure we get home and somebody's always you know that person that's the point person we're like okay we're not gonna drink too much and when I was younger I was a lot more like drink drink drink drink drink now it's like one or two drinks maximum and that's it yeah Malcolm Gladwell talking to strangers no he has he has a great chapter in there about the whole Brock Turner situation that is very interesting it's kind of along the lines you're discussing we but like we have to have these conversations because and and the problem is everything is tied into everything else so what we what we while we're having a conversation around alcohol and sex we also we need to be talking about consent while we're talking about consent we also...
have to talk about toxic masculinity and the way men see themselves in relation to a woman and a lot of the time that's that's why men are doing what they're doing you know men don't take rejection well because it's somehow tied into that their idea of how manly they are you know and if you think about it this was the messaging we got as men growing absolutely from all Spears by the way not just from like out there I remember growing up with alia listen to those lyrics today people huh if at first you don't succeed try again try again what would you do to get to me what would you say to have your way hmm would you give up or try again if I hesitate to let you in you gotta go that far back you can go - how many drinks does it take for you to get me like blame it on alcohol but I'm saying like and so what we don't realize is we also have to go like oh man how are we being programmed what are we what have we thought is acceptable how do we think it's acceptable and how do we change those things it's time and that's you know what I mean someone needs to write an R&B song where it's like you know what I mean like girl we drunk leaving the club let's just sleep tomorrow we'll be sober then we see if we have sex like that's what we do people need to write new songs like Miguel everyone that's a challenge I sent you guys write consent songs write songs where it's like very clear yeah and then I whip out the...
condom real ones and I ask you are you sure you say yeah that's what we need about we need like because if you think about a lot of time we're informed by what's happening when you're in the club the songs are telling you what to do it'll be so dope you said it you know what I mean now about four or five years ago I wanted to do like like like a rape

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special just talking to these young men especially these young men on college campuses right having the same conversation but then you know once they labeled me a rapist I didn't like that you had that emotional intelligence Charlamagne these young women was all women and it was in Long Island and they were there all high school students right and it was maybe about like 150 women and they were all talking about experiences that they've had with it was a whole meet to Town Hall right and to hear how like girls who are 13 14 15 certain things that happen to the and how they don't even feel like their own class that one girl said everyday she gets off the bus and this guy who was her neighbor like runs over and grabs her ass and the girls laugh at her and they're like ah she loves it she loves it and how they're not even supporting each other right and the girls like a lot of them started crying talking about experiences that they've had because they don't have a chance or a place where they can vent or feel like that's all generation to hear about them and feel like they...
can be heard but I don't know if that conversation would have been as good if cameras were rolling I don't think so either if there were guys in the room and I do feel like it's something they need to hear so you can see real-life people who are affected and how these young girls you know one girl was talking about she was living with her family and her sister's boyfriend actually assaulted her and she ended up getting pregnant and having a baby and now the family doesn't talk to her and a lot of time that's the story it's somebody in the family it's somebody who everybody knows right and these are all things that people need to hear but it's just I think sometimes so hard until people get to a space where they can express themselves without you know I think that's what I need to just create more of those spaces exactly what you're saying cuz I'm fine with doing it in a space but no one has to see yes it is yeah it has to be closed or competition because in that way you're actually teaching and people are learning nobody's gonna get judged and crucified we're all in the room together it helps women I think support each other when they see other things going on and be more sensitive to that and know that you know this happens to this person I saw how she all right yeah II think how I look at things yeah I I just think we need to do all we need to do more of that in more spaces and I think people take for granted that...
you can start on us on a small level a lot of the time people say like you know you'll say how do we do this he'll know like guys just do it there's also we have groups of friends that's right I've started doing a thing with my friends with theirs like realtalk there's moments where we sit down as men and we just go like yo it's five of us sitting together just talk about consent hey let's talk about what we could be doing better with each other and a lot of the time you know like I remember when we started saying these things there was always like that that hesitancy you know like there'd be the one for me like oh that's good maybe what we were you talking like no no no it's not though it's not and even if it was there's nothing wrong with that what we're talking about right now is as men with each other what can we do better how can we change our thinking what a waste with as friends how do we navigate these issues because we do have groups or all throughout society and I think we take for granted the power of that just sharing that vulnerability that moment now and it's not gonna end up on a snapchat er it's the grand story they're gonna share but just just being honest and sharing it with somebody else I think it starts with us meaning like if people see you actually doing the work like you personally are trying to be a better person with therapy whether you're just seeking some sense of healing I...
think they received a messaging well I hope so I think it contributes yeah I think order but just sharing it helps I remember once like the the story on consent this is like I I I went on a date with a woman and we had a great night and things were looking good and she was like let's go back to your place and I was like oh okay let's go back to my place and we head back to my place and then when we get back to my place she was like oh oh man I don't know if I should be here I've had too much to drink and I was like oh I was like oh you should happy you said this and thank you I call and issues like wait what are you doing and she said no I don't say I want to leave and I said no no no no no I listen here what you said there I have to take and I'm not even trying to be an about this I'm not trying to punish you nothing like that you just said you don't think I should be you've had a lot to drink and I didn't know how much you had to drink I did I met you prude like middle drinks vibes so let me get you a car there's another day we can always meet on another day and that's the biggest thing that I've learned in life around a lot of consent sex and all of these things is you know what helps a lot is getting to know people before you have sex with them just like spending a lot of time getting to know them like it's not going away you don't have to have sex on the first date like just take your time get to know like...
equals a million rap records that say otherwise that is true that's again that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying again musicians can help with a lot of this messaging we need like we need like new songs that come out and chill everything it's a lot of fun if the homies got a way to have something oh she said I'll see you next week oh yeah it's a lot of fun we need to go back to everyone and just be like yo let's let's have let's let's remix songs and create great messaging that goes out to everybody so that young kids out there go you know what I am NOT a loser because I didn't have sex with this girl on the first date if anything this is how it should be and I'm living a great Janet Jackson let's wait a while let's wait a while let's just wait a little while all right wise words from my man

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trouble I love talking to you but why are you here I was coming to promote I thought I'd come and hang out there's only two things only two things that I would love for you and everyone that listens to the show to know about I'm doing two of the biggest shows of my life Madison Square Garden hey no the guard garden got the garden November the garden garden November 8th thank you very much the garden garden first time maybe my last time I don't know it's just been a dream of mine and like that's that's gonna be huge for me November November 8th okay and then December 6 I'm...
in Los Angeles doing the staples Wow so Staples Center I'm gonna be there lifelong dream both arenas both amazing cities two cities that loved me before anyone knew who I was people came out and watched my shows and so if you're in Los Angeles if you're in New York come in laughs we're having a good time I don't I don't wanna disappoint people now but I don't do like a ton of politics I just I try and take a break from that at my shows fun man I talk about other things that there's more to life than just politics and that's what the stand-up is about so it's a blessing and I enjoy it I love to I love I live in politics so I love it but my stand-up is timeless so I go okay I don't care what you I I've you know how many people come up to me this is like the best compliment get a lot of people come up to me and be like you know

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I'm uh I'm a Republican and I don't like your political view but I I like your stand-up comic you're funny guy you're funny guy sometimes when you talking about Trump I wish I could punch you in the mouth but when you're doing the comedy I'm not gonna you got me on the floor buddy you do a great job I'm not gonna lie you could pass as a white man with that boy counter out of you when I make reservations that's the voice I use like how the 85 South show was here they said no the British guy oh you the British dude from South Africa I'm like you just included two...
countries in one but I won't take it that's what someone said to me the other day I was at the Dominican Day Parade that was like my favorite moment ever Dominican de buri was happening I didn't know so I'm trying to get home walking through New York now I mean like I crossed the street but now I'm in it then I gotta walk down with it and then turn so now I'm walking with the people and then one dude was a yo

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I told you to do with Dominican dude yeah okay you know I will take it my friend hey give me the website to buy the tickets for

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calm everything

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calm if you type

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and you type Los Angeles it'll come up if you drive

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no and you type New York it'll come up if you type

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charlemagne some other will come up don't type that

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Noah

that's that's who I am and that is how you shall find me if you are looking for me always a pleasure my bro thank you very much this is Ola it's The Breakfast Club