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THR’s Full Drama Actor Roundtable With Rami Malek, Cuba Gooding Jr. and More

May 31, 2021
you can play everything in this role, they are all here in the same way, yes, no, of course, three. bars, three bars, I can tell they will fill football stadiums, come on Richie, where are we with the good rats and what do you get to get to that kind of extreme place? I think it's just an experience. You just know, I feel like I feel like maybe twenty years ago I wouldn't have been ready to play this role and I feel like I've played a lot of different roles in the years leading up to this and I think those roles really kind of prepared me for it, you know. , I've had the opportunity to play a leading man on stage before um and in trash over the last, let's say, ten years.
thr s full drama actor roundtable with rami malek cuba gooding jr and more
I've been able to play bigger roles and

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interesting supporting roles and I think they've all led me to this character of in a way, you know, I feel like I've gotten to play elements of this character elsewhere and I can't really put it all together now and have a lot of fun with it, sure, sure, and force you with your roots, what was that you wanted to say? Okay, time to revisit this. I mean, I think there are some things that I mean it's

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within I think about the character that he contains in his mind, he starts to show you his story deep down in a way that I hadn't understood before.
thr s full drama actor roundtable with rami malek cuba gooding jr and more

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I didn't even understand his religion. I didn't know who he was. a Muslim, you know what I mean, chooses to compromise and give away parts of himself to function and have a good life and has to face it as if it were his own identity, he loses identity at the end of at least my character's life, he regains yours. Identity and I think this theme of identity is something that I've been playing with a lot of different things. I'm trying to understand, you know about being the core of being the essence, you know, so I decided to give it a try.
thr s full drama actor roundtable with rami malek cuba gooding jr and more
There are a lot of challenges, you know, with the violin itself, with other instruments, as I started adding other instruments. You know, you like to express like this the transition of the past that it contains, from the African guitar to the violin, the piece itself, I think. important to the legacy of what it is, you know, people use it today. I haven't seen this. I think it's very important that you look at this and remember it. It is a source of identity to move to the next phase of progression. from tove where we moved to a Kenta quite no, no, listen to me, the wife of the masses does not name you Toby Quinta Kenta younger, taller, more Kenta ding couple Ooty, bigger twist, I will remove any muscle Tina, it can't be better Toby Toby Toby Toby Toby Toby Toby they will tell me now and they will tell me forever I don't care at all about your African wings and did you remember the impact it had on you?
thr s full drama actor roundtable with rami malek cuba gooding jr and more
Well, yeah, I mean, I watched It's like with my family, I mean, with everyone, any family that everyone wants, yeah, so I would sit with my whole family and I would sit in front of the TV and watch it, then we would all talk about it at school and I said something. these are things you've never seen before how you hope the dialogue will change whether it's in Hollywood or beyond with a project like this I think it just frames the situation so that you can understand this kind of alcohol to the Holocaust in a way that shows how what happened in the passage and how we progressed and where we moved to; today the piece allows us to move historically from one era to another and see the progression of our culture and how we become taller or less tolerant or ask if that is if we have overcome those same problems, you can't, you can't see it without being confronted with the civil rights issue, the human rights issue and it's not possible - to watch someone being beaten to death and then we can be forced into a new identity by having to say a new name for yourself, having to take a new life, being powerless, you know, I think those are all things that we have to explore, you know, because this is happening everywhere, from refugees, from slavery issues or in this country, in other countries, all kinds of things that can be touched, that can be identified with, that are happening right now and that we must still try to understand in this dialogue in the shower.
Absolutely, what are the advantages and disadvantages of inhabiting a real character? Something that excites you or terrifies you. I love it. I always love it. I mean, I played some Ben Carson and mm-hmm. Master Chief Carl Bashir and Now OJ and I think it's because we as

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s try to find an emotional truth for the character, in whatever situation you put him in, mm-hmm, so you do your research and try to understand his mannerisms. , you try to understand what you know. hair to look so much like that character, but when you connect with that character, honestly, the audience will forget what it looks like mm-hmm, you know, I've said some things about your show, I absolutely adored it, I really did, but if I said It is a criticism and I have said that it is impressive when they go to the real Pablo Escobar.
I feel like you are betrayed every time I finally still have that image. I'll be a frank giant and then they go back to the real guy. and not only did I say yes, I think it's one of those things where the audience will follow you the truth of your journey, it's like taking wheat, you know, Marlon Brando says he wants to be on the boardwalk and he said in and out in and out and they were like what does that mean, he's like I was in and out really, you know, and it could have just been because of the different flavors that they use, but really it's that when we look at our work, we look.
To be honest, when we really like to get caught up in this, you know, so yeah, I'm curious about Apple. Did you try to imitate him or talk like him or what? As far as I could tell, you know Ryan and I had this agreement. At first I said, you know, I'm as much like him as I can be, but you know I'm going to be the

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who gives you a truth for whatever you want, so tell me you know we had a shorthand, right? this shot where he's guilty he did this shot nowhere he's frustrated yeah he undid it like he literally told me to come so I had to put myself in that mindset and that was the truth I felt like it was my job and it's like we had a cameraman in the set up every day and especially when we were doing things in the courtroom, so we could see what we were about to film in real time, yeah, you know, and there were certain noises like the biggest one is Sol, a verdict really not guilty when he did it.
I have to tell a story, so I don't know if anyone watched the show, but I'm not my character, you'll see an emotional roller coaster, but in that verdict he was so hard and high that they said not guilty, well, you see. how he laid down, so I tried to mimic his reaction to a t-shirt, and in between takes, I want you to know that you're walking around this set trying to stay away from him. I passed by one of the actors on the jury. which she says uh but it was because trying to do at that moment I was really if I was Cuba Gooding Jr.
I felt like you know I prayed thank God but it wasn't just men so yeah she wants to look like that but it's more about no that's complicated. I mean, you've obviously played real characters before. I mean, is it like that? For you, is there pressure that comes with that or does it actually allow you to find a connection with that character? Yes, I'm sure he can be really liberating. I mean, I've played some historical figures. Jonathan, you know that his father left him. so we have no idea what they really sound like and stuff, so you know you have a certain amount of something really circumscribed.
I've done a lot, you have a lot of freedom and, in some ways, that kind of confinement. I have to look like that and talk like that also liberates you in a fun way, so it's interesting, but I also love the idea of ​​inhabiting a real person, a historical figure, it's an exciting kind of story to get into. So I love doing things like that, I'm sure David McCullough knows what probably looks amazing. Okay, yeah, it was a lot of fun making all that up. How did these people sound like they needed to make all that up?
We invented the accent, since I mean, really quickly, that kind of research stuff is really fun and, um, there's too many, well, you know, I mean, and then it's like a certain point where you have to stop because You can't just play the guy you have to then create and pretend. and make sure you're sure, um Ronnie, obviously this role for you has been tremendously impactful and I imagine it's going to be a game changer. I'm curious since offers probably come when you look around and a baby when you think about careers. you want to emulate in the decisions you want to make about what to do next and how you're thinking about what to say yes and what to say no.
That is a good question. I don't know if any actor ever realizes what exactly it is. they want to, but again, doors definitely opened and they were able to read scripts and meet with directors that would never have had the opportunity a year ago and I always wanted to work on really great content, great material with capable people. inspiring artistic directors and if something moved me or scared me then I was drawn to it. I don't need to work all the time. I prefer to wait for something really special that catches my attention and I think I look for things that I can. shines, but ultimately now that I work on this show, that has really provoked people in such a way that I want to do it more, I want it to be as socially conscious in the way that you know something like roots is something that has an impact not just as a piece of entertainment, but you know, it affects us on a social level and three issues, yes, it empowers people and I mean that's what I like most about this, I'm sorry, no, no, I mean, definitely not, it has to do with the culture and the people. and the movement of culture like that as we grow and expand and understand privacy and all the colors, see, it's really intense crazy, yeah, yeah, yeah, so if we had your agents sitting around this table , if I asked them about, do you know how?
You react when projects are presented to you, what would they say? I think my agent would say that they would never know how I'm going to react because I never know how I'm going to react. Part of what I enjoy about this is not knowing. What's going to happen next and what am I going to get next? Oh, what's suddenly going to be interesting to me? What are the projects that have come your way and that you have been involved in? You're not thinking this would be something they would want you for. because and then you were delighted and you did it, oh dear, I don't know so many things, I don't know.
I made a movie called The Illusionist, which is a little movie, and I remember getting it and thinking that no one had ever liked me. playing a German police detective before this is not a small movie, it's wonderful, my friend, but I remember thinking, "no one has ever loved me and I love doing that stuff. I have no idea. I'm going to be running." Over there". with the pipe and like a cape and jumping on a train and stuff, I thought this is fantastic, I just never saw it coming, uh, hello, and it's wonderful, a big part of it for me is this enjoyment of I have no idea of what will actually happen to me if I am lucky to win two leagues in a place where I don't know if that answers your question, they wouldn't know that he will always be surprised and sometimes they will be.
Why do you want to do that? You know I'm going to do it because I want to do something where I have a bird and I play with a bird. Yes, yes, that's true. My agent is always afraid to bring me things that are like a detective or a mafia guy, yeah, because they know I'm going to be like a bunch of pizza guys or pizza guys, yeah, yeah, I actually have a pizza mafia guy , a guy, a mafia guy who likes protection, as I'm sure, and they said, but he's in witness protection in Arizona and I think he could go to the area now, it's not that crazy, no, but thank you to everyone at this table, you've been through that transition when I started this business, I was conditioned to fail and no, and to hear no, so. you go to a billion auditions and then you get one and you know I got a job, I got a job, you know, so you're conditioned to be insecure and I'm going to work on this, so the transition I talked about is now yours.
The agent calls you and tells you that now you have to choose between a lot of things and you say that I have to tell myself no to those things. Yeah, when you do that you're saying no, maybe to something that you should be doing or it shouldn't be like that, that's why I put scripts aside and what are the filmmakers that I want to know because let them tell me what I should do because When I started in this business I was just trying to win any role at any time. You know well? So it ships pretty fast.
Yes, there are your projects that, sir, practically no one has seen. The illusionist doesn't count. um, I told him what I was here for eight years today. There are probably many that no one has seen. What is it about that specific project that made it so special to you and then the other side of the coin is why didn't it connect with a broader audience? Is there a little movie called um Fast Food Nation that I really love? proud that Rick Linklater made, yes, my favorite filmmakers. Coincidentally I had read that book a couple of years before and I had given up not having touched fast food since I read that book, it just gives me chills like that book and then I was doing a play in New York called Hurly-Burly and I was acting like one typenasty, another kind of coke and um and it was like crazy and I had never played that kind of role before, I had played likeable. guys before I had done what I had done as third aging observation station and that was it and Rick and Ethan Hawke were in that play and Rickon Ethan are good friends and Rick came to see that play and he didn't know me and it was like, wow, you're really nasty, you want to play this nasty guy in this movie and that was the first opportunity I had to play a nasty guy to a point where I had only been getting these nice guy roles and they were kind of like that. soft and um, you know, like Paul says, it's the surprises really like you have to be open to anything because I was typecast for two years playing a nice guy and then I got typecast because I was playing the guy who was really straight, but he ends up being gay in the end, yeah, I liked those guys and then I was a pop kid from there, I just never know, yeah, at one point I thought he was going to be a good guy and then Rick gave me this chance and that made me It led to another certain type of personality, but I was very grateful for that because I got to work with Linkletter and no one else.
Like no one has seen that movie for some reason and I'm still very proud of that movie. Surely there are some that come to mind, but it was a long time ago or more recently. I mean, I made a movie called mine. love song Renee Zellweger which is with the filmmaker Olivier Dahan and directed a love Ian Rose was really unique from the heart to the perspective point of view, I mean, in the way he saw the universe in the world, I really thought that the movie was really special and uh but it wasn't even released here yeah I never heard of that I think so we were talking about never coming back what about the girls no yeah Richard that's why it doesn't go unnoticed, no, no, it's like a strong, cold father, yeah, it's like we're working with great directors who know how their sensibilities maybe weren't right for the distribution system in the US.
I love them the movies, you know, I love it, there was a cool thing I did with this. The director named Baltha is our komak or who I thought was a really interesting director from Iceland mm-hmm you know there are several films you know and I thought that over a year my career is old so I've been doing it for about 30- It's been a few years and there have been federals to see you. I have to say I want to make more of those movies like I never care who sees them. I don't want to work with interesting filmmakers like that, you work with everyone.
Those filmmakers, uh, I want to do that. I'm going to work with some little-known Norwegian filmmaker. You know, nobody sees the movie. I don't feel, I mean, you say they didn't come out. Yes, I feel good about the films and the existing ones. world, you know, they inevitably learn from each other, whether they see it, she, you know, what I feel when I wanted to add is like all auditions, I almost wish that sometimes people would come back, hey, I saw you, besides that , although you didn't get it. Those are some, you know, I think we have some good performances that, for a reason, or they should be awards, look at all these, my best off-camera fakeouts, yeah, what's covered there, one that you felt like I nailed it.
I definitely will. I'm going to understand this and I never feel like I'm definitely going to understand it I'm going to do better like I have a good chance at it I think and then I can oh you weren't even close I got zeros as an audition reader really an audition reader when I was much more young and I got a movie in a play for being the reader, that's all I remember when I first auditioned, like readers were always terrible and I remember saying I wanted to try to be a reader and so and I did it, I got a job, I'll be here like I make ice, add my income like working in a bar and being an audition leader and I have to go running, okay, then I'll do things with great readers, I feel. like why don't you put that.
I always think that about my understudy, when I see a standeth, I see it on the monitor. I'm like that guy, okay, so we'll go to a lighter point when you were coming. You wake up and you get the first big role, was it the first big splurge in the room or was it that you bought something for yourself, made something for yourself, no, actually, I mean, I've been working in Brazil since I was 15, 16 years old and um. I was thinking about the characters. The question about the characters I would like to play is exactly, I mean, never, I didn't have I was a poor child and I started working and I don't need money.
I mean, I don't need money, I mean, if as soon as I have money to feed my kids, I'll be fine, aha, so I was thinking what I'm looking for are experiences, aha, that you know how to have. experiences that add something to my life these narcs think that this means such a gay change in me in terms not in terms of career and I don't even like to think about my little career because it's my life for sure it's not my career it's my The fact of that I'm Brazilian and then we're so euphoric in Brazil because we speak Portuguese and then I felt for the first time that I was South American, you know, working with Max connectors and Chileans, Argentines, Colombians, that's the kind of thing.
What I'm looking for is to bring you something, you know, that makes your life feel easy like you're trying to do, they say, well, we've all bought a car, we have nicer houses, we fly first class, whatever, so go away. Oh, that's when it happened to you, but it's also a coin to work with an icon of some kind and he tells you the story of an iconic director here and you hear a story that you don't know anyone other than the president he's with. not working. what I heard the story those will give me away home they always make me go this is this is the day here yes, for me it is always when someone knows my name the first time I remember the island that was when it blew me away and I knew who it was it was easy of acting and he knew my word, yeah, and I was like, wow, that's good, that's great, yeah, okay, so if they put a gun to your head, you couldn't be an actor anymore, what would you do guys? , if you owned a bar? away, yeah, I'd be at Bob's bar, you could find me at Bobby's.
It would be impoverished far away, oh guys, what would you do, what would you do, something creative, it would still be, I feel like no, it would be something associated with film and television. or scenario in some way writing direction craft service but some concepts, but if I couldn't, they would tell me to clean up on something artistic, anything artistic, what you're saying artistic, you know you have to pay my bills, someone to build us physically, yes. yeah, anything artistic would be difficult would be terribly difficult Did you feel like, oh, I just don't have any other viable skills, I can really do it?
I think construction, for some reason, most Ron, I guess, building something, yeah, you know, there's something to that, uh-huh. I've always been athletic my whole life, boxing and ice hockey in other sports, so maybe it's an athletic thing, professional athletes, it's really scary because your career is over, woman, you're done, I know at 35, yeah, and You're, yeah, you're young and You're okay, would I do that? I hope where you would go to find us and sit down. Oh yes, I know. He would probably be working with the UN or some NGO somewhere in the countryside. I would do that.
Now I'm just kidding, that's what we're all going to do. I love it. So the last one. What people would be surprised to know about you. Well, I can't say. I mean, I can. No, no, no, no, but, oh. No, in fact, I can tell you that when I was a kid I was a competitive figure skater and I traveled all over the world competing, so that's mine, well that's not surprising, oh yeah, yeah, I'm baby seal club. I've been doing jujitsu ever since. it was ah you stay when tracy is backing off you're absolutely nothing but brazilian things and I don't think it's that big of a surprise I've loved it since I was 23 because fuck it doesn't work there aren't many Gracie right there's a problem yeah they're everywhere oh yeah, Yeah, yeah, you do that too, yeah, I've got that, I've got that I can understand for a lot less as a kid.
Ophthalmologist, it's a good secret, but I mean, you're talking about years, how long have you been around. I'm 39 Wow, okay, who's 20? You are not a black belt, you, the blue one, subsist, known, purple, you look like this, guys, you are a black belt. Nothing used to train with me, for example, I was always traveling, but you know it's hard and that style to get a black. it takes a long time this is if you're there all the time let's let us have the rest you can force yourself obviously musical talents you definitely wouldn't know I've been around for 25 years this is something I've been playing with this guy is that if the artistic wasn't out From the last question, I would say that I would play with my band.
I'm playing with this guy for 26 25 - not a minute, it's tough kitsch music with British rock, so it's a weird hole, yeah, he's got his musical stuff oh, you know, guys, I send you baby seals to clubbing, it wasn't sincere and serious, okay, wait a minute, you gotta rap bro leg, got it? Rowley, what do you have? What I like to cook and I would say my specialty is just making something with the numbers that Devers left in the refrigerator. What do you have? I'm a woman. Now wait a minute if you are because I think you're agile.
I hope I don't know. I can't think of anything particularly interesting. Sorry, I had to learn to play the violin when I was a kid. I hated it though, so you know, no, I don't have any particularly hidden talents, they're fine. out there in the world I'm not thanking you very much uh yeah, thank you thank you for watching, make sure to subscribe for more videos from The Hollywood Reporter, this guy, get out of there, Mike, Mike, get that coke out.

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