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The Ultimate Dual Action Polisher for Beginners? | New DA8 Review | Picking your first polisher

Jun 01, 2021
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the ultimate dual action polisher for beginners new da8 review picking your first polisher
We're trying to film this live, guys, so check out today's Patreon community video. We're looking at what I sometimes call budget polishes, starter polishes, entry level polishes, why do I use that word? Well, let's get to the point. The price of this

polisher

here guys it's called d8 to detail what the 8 means it represents displacement so if you were to remove this plate you would see an offset free spinning bearing on the main shaft and that's called orbit or the launch , so it has an eight mil throw, so it's not an aggressive machine, you get long pro machines with a 12 millimeter offset, a 15 millimeter offset, and a 21 millimeter offset, this has an eight millimeter offset and a 900 watt motor and costs £100.
the ultimate dual action polisher for beginners new da8 review picking your first polisher

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Do not use discount codes with this machine because it is already discounted. The nice thing about this machine, guys, is that one of the cool features that makes it, aside from the price, that makes it a desirable starter tool, is that it comes with two plates, so I don't have to waste time looking at the ones. plate sizes and accessory sizes. These are, however, they are 5 16, they refer to the size of the fixture, so it is a much smaller little spindle. Here I have put the 75 mil plate there just for show. So you'll use the 75 mil plate when you want to get into tighter, curvier areas, for example a front bumper, maybe a B-pillar or a C-pillar, you know, the rear quarter sections, lower skirts and all. that kind of thing where there's no big pad.
the ultimate dual action polisher for beginners new da8 review picking your first polisher
You'll be able to get into the gaps and it will get stuck, so it's pretty important now. The disadvantage, obviously, of having only one tool is that you have to change the plates and it comes with a small wrench. I'll show you what it entails. When changing plates, you turn the wrench until it bites into the small nut inside and then unscrew the plate. Make sure you hold the plastic washer well with this particular plate and then you can change, there is a little bit of rubber. That little black thing that's a little rubber protector to keep the thread secure, so I'm going to switch it back to that machine and put this on the spindle and turn it and that's it, it's just going to spin until it tightens and then you.
the ultimate dual action polisher for beginners new da8 review picking your first polisher
You will have to put the key in to lock it, which is done and then change the idea. You want to set up this tool, but it's locked now, so it's relatively easy to do, but you don't want to keep doing it. every five minutes so think about how you are going to polish your machine, do the big areas

first

and then maybe change the plate once and then do all the narrower areas or alternatively you get two machines let's go over the rest of the specifications of this. machine guys, so it's an eight thousand reach

dual

action

polisher

, it weighs about 100 pounds, it's 900 watts, it has a pretty powerful motor, although it's hard to translate the motor's power directly into torque, it comes with a warranty from the manufacturer 12 months, supports 125 mil plate and 75 mil plate comes with them, it is not brushless, so use brushes and you get a set of replacement brushes.
If you use the machine a lot, the brushes eventually wear out and are very cheap little things, but I have a spare set there if you need to replace them later. Go to Google how to replace brushes. There is a good article in Pro Details magazine on how to do this. Very important speed range. Lowest operating speed: 25,100 or 2,500 opm per minute. nice and slow so you will generally spread the polish at that low speed and then you can ramp it up to a max of 6800 opm which is fast when you start running at that kind of speed the product is more likely to dry out a little .
It gets your pads a little too hot so I always find you know the question I get asked: How fast should I run my polishing machine? I find that you don't want it to stop when you slow down, eventually you will start to see it stop very easily when you go over small gaps and bumps so you need to turn it to the point where you can't stop it easily and usually on these machines that run one to four, one to six, it's something between four and five is that sweet spot, if you're running it too fast you'll have seen your product dry out and get dusty, then slow down a little bit , find your sweet spot, start at about half past four um on speed dial.
When you're cutting a six meter long cable and I'm not sure I said it weighs 2.3 kilos, it's also CE certified so it should be relatively safe. What are the key features of this particular tool, guys, compared to a normal type of eight? mil polisher where you have a built in rubber bar which is an improvement, it comes with a D shaped handle which is like a big U that attaches to both sides of this machine. You'll see some people like that whose problem is that they get into the that way when you're trying to go under the rearview mirrors and you have this big D shaped handle, a lot of times you want to keep the shape of the machine down, so don't I think you're better off with There's no D-shaped handle than an integrated bale, but you have the option there.
The key is that the integrated gut is now rubber coated so 99% of the time you will have to hold the tool with the rubber bail, that's an improvement, what else guys? Well, it's a little bit thinner body, so you can grab the tool with your hands and hold it a little better, which isn't significant, but it probably helps a little bit most of the time when the tool will be on the ground when you are working. horizontally when you're working vertically, so it's nice to be able to put your hands around it like the daz 6 pro, which is the model I used to use and I think in detail it's used for selling, it has the speed dial under the tap. far under the cable, which is a feature I think could be improved.
I'd prefer to see it somewhere at the top where it's not personally hidden. Whenever you buy a polisher, guys, the

first

thing you should do is check the clearance. between the free swing plate and the cover and make sure the plate does not wobble this way; in other words the bearing is mounted on the machine on the straight shaft and there is no play in the bearing and also just move the plate and see if I can make it click, click, you know, it shouldn't sound so that it's the counterweight that moves, but there's no play in this aspect, you see, so that's a good thing, so it should be, you know, it should be solid to use um as well.
If not, if there is wobble, it is more likely to rub against the deck. There is a fairly large gap between the cover and the plate on this machine, so there will be no support of the plate with the cover, which is common on eight thousand professional machines. so they tend to spin and not stop as well, which is good, what's another key thing about this guy? Slim line rubber handle with integrated bail while I put the word vents, oh vents, the main board has vents for air to flow into the machine. it draws air through the back over the motor to keep it cool through the gear you know on the shaft to keep everything cool and then it blows vents out here to keep the temperature of the pads down so you don't overheat your pads, that It's another improvement over its predecessor or not, but regarding the das 6 pro, now the das 6 pro is a great machine, guys, it was something that I bought for the same reasons that you might be looking to buy. one of these is like a backup polisher, a good entry level affordable machine polisher that works well.
The improvements on this over the das 6 pro are minor things, they are minor things and the daz 6 pro is also a great starter tool. I rated this tool. Imran sent me one about six months ago, not for a

review

, but to ask the question: should I go ahead and stock it? Is it worth stocking after trying it for a few weeks? My answer is yes, the tool is solid, there is no creak, it goes through the old test, we will fix it to see if there are any loose objects making noise. I turn it off and on about 500 different times to see if this thing ever breaks.
Pull this cable to see if you can make a loose connection where it's stuck underneath, it was fine, and it just has a couple of those improvements I've talked about with the ergonomics, cooling, and slim nature of the tool that I think I said It's worth having, man, and the power too, guys, so what we're going to do now is all the specs. What we're going to do now is try to record this video in a live shot, which is very difficult, you won't see many. the people who do it are going straight to polishing now this is the first time I've used this machine okay you can see me taking all the stuff off what I'm going to do is I'm going to switch to the potato chamber um because that's the La easiest way to shoot live, so we go here.
Well, I already have my panel down there that just tripped, so it's connected there. What am I going to do if I turn the camera this way? Now you can see. the car and yes before we start I'm just going to show you the type of paint that we're dealing with now this car has been washed and you can see what we have you see that peel that's where I've applied clay aggressively with a clay cloth and It's like you're sanding paint. The high spots have become a little blurry, so you can see more of the texture of the shell, so we need to polish, let's fix everything. that and it's also swirls, guys, if you see all the swirls, if I let the camera fix itself on the focus, there we go covered in swirls and it's also covered in little pieces of paint, which unfortunately for old paint there is nothing really.
I can do this, but it will probably need to be repainted at some point and look how bad the paint is. I'll show you this covered in swirls, so here we go, so it's good, it's good to demonstrate what else you need. When you're machine polishing, we need a good collection of microfiber cloths that I have here, but these are just standard round ones, if you want to buy them, buy something like Rag Company's edgeless 300 or 365, very similar, or if you're working. on a car with very nice paint or a high-end car or a car with smooth paint, then use these open pile cloths for detailing, they are very cheap, lovely and just great, but I can't get them. because there's not enough room to take the box out, yeah, so it doesn't matter and I'm just going to do a series of demonstrations.
Let's set up the camera. Here you can see the potato and the infamous potato can before switching to Guys, potato cans, those are the cloths. I am also using the Koch Kemi seal as a panel wipe. Think of this as 99 proof ipa, although that's not the case, it's primarily alcohol solvent based, so it's pretty much 99 proof ipa. Don't use this knee. Throw it in at least one, two, three, one to four, think about that when you do your math, so it's 99 ipa proof and you don't go over 30 of this for watering, so use about 25 percent of this two or three percent, two percent of hd surface. or apc and the rest distilled water and then you have a very affordable and effective panel cloth that is absolutely ideal, holds the camera absolutely ideal for small inspections, cleaning and things like that, if you are going to put down a ceramic coating, do you want? to use a more expensive degreaser like jion prep or um geotechnic c2, they don't see the 2g panel cleaning technique you can do or the hammer cleaning fluid built.
I've talked about it, it might be worth doing, but only for small inspection cleanups. I use that product in terms of abrasives. You will see there. Koch Kemi. Let me grab the viewfinder so I can see what you're seeing. Koch Chemi h9 f6 m3. Everything you need finished. I also sometimes recommend the sandbar concept. Some people film. you could use s2 black s20 or a s40 as your combo these three combos i am starting with the heavy cut medium cut finish polish and the medium cut you can also use a single stage polish which means one stroke, one pad, a product, which a lot of people like now pad choice guys pad choice would recommend padsflexible and you only need these two pads this is your cutting pad it's the purple flexible pad it's an expensive pad you can use hex logic if you want to save yourself I don't know what four pounds or something like that I would recommend you not to do it because this pad lasts a long time further.
This pad has been used many times. You can see that it is in very good condition. I would recommend you get two of these. These fit 125 mil plates. I think they are 140 mil speckled pad sizes but they fit 125 mil plates and I would recommend you also get two orange pads from fleck the flex which are polishing pads so cutting pads polishing pads with these you will be able to use higher cut products on harder paint you will use these with finishing products on softer paints or on harder paints now if you want single stage which of these two should you use if you are doing single stage on german paint hard?
Then use the purple if you're doing a single stage over soft Japanese paint, that's the kamar above. If you are using a pad that is too stiff, then you can use the orange one, it is worth saying, although it is very rare for this purple pad to damage the support, so it is also suitable for soft painting. This is one of the reasons I recommend this pad, it cuts well, it has a good amount of stiffness and density, but you can also know that it is not too rough and is not going to ruin very smooth paints.
They are the only two pads you need. How many of these should I get John? A minimum of two. I've talked about it before and a minimum of two. so you can trade in I would say and it's probably on average about four, they start to get very expensive and of course you can buy the 75k equivalents of purple and orange for your small plates and they're all available for detailing. They are almost ready to go, the only other thing is the issue of re-detailing tape, so this tape is called sp-80, it's a low tech tape and that's it, and it's reasonably well priced, that That's all, sp 80 grit, the green tape, how to do it? use tape what is the tape used for is it used mask any rubber that you like if you look down here you can see that you can't the edge of the car like all of this is rubber if you don't take this rubber and just polish well against that rubber you're going hit it and the rubber has all the dirt on top and you know you're going to get debris and grease out of the gap also onto the pad and the grip and you're going to be able to scratch the paint and maybe put it in like pigtails and things like that, so there's an example of something you'd like to tape down so that the tape actually seals that horrible piece of rubber so you can't get the dirt out.
There it also keeps you from having to polish the rubber and you can also use tape to protect things anything you want to protect for example if you're polishing under the rear view mirror you might want to get a thicker tape and like some. people will use some paper, you know, and tape it up and stuff like that, you might be worried about the plate hitting something, so you might tape it up so it's a protection and stops you from poking and getting the dirt off things mainly, um. you can't see me there is nothing right or wrong some guys mask the whole car they cut pieces of paper the same size as the glass and put them on if someone does that that shows they really don't do it. actually handling your polish and just exposing the paint surfaces, there's no right or wrong, but it takes a lot of time if you're careful with your polish and how you handle it, you don't need to use as much tape and you don't need to cover things up.
Good compromise: put a towel, an old towel, on the glass because when you're polishing a front bumper, for example, when you get to this edge, you can get little dots of polish all over the wipers and go everywhere. and if you don't remove it it dries and the next day it's a nightmare to take off, it doesn't dissolve once it dries so handle your polish however you want. There are some little tips you can think of when talking about it. About that and I decide, let's go directly to polishing. What I'm going to do is I have a really bad paint job here.
I already showed you this, but what I'm going to do is use a soft orange pad. I'm going to get here, there's one of my oranges. You could also buy one that I've already used, so when mounting the plate it's always best to place the pad in your hand and look down at the polisher when you put the pad on. There is a little space here, so by looking down I can measure the space. You can see when I turn it that it was wobbly, the black line was wobbly. I didn't understand it well. When you're ripping these.
Be careful, don't grab the pad, try to put your fingers on the velcro so as not to pull the velcro because you can wear out the pads if you tear them off quickly, especially when they are hot and the glue weakens and you can damage the pad that way, so take them off with a little bit of care so you can see it mounts pretty well on this package because it has a little bit of old polish on it, but it didn't do the best job of cleaning it every time you did it. See old polish on your pad, turn it on, some dust will come out, so never be afraid to turn on a pad, turn on your machine, let's slow it down and just give it a whack. interesting, well now that we have some speed, we're going to use a mid-range compound instead of the finishing polish, so this is almost like a stage.
I could use the heavy cap, the purple and the finishing polish with the orange but I choose to use the single stage, let's call it f6 although it says f5 on the bottle that will confuse you but I'm using h9, f6 and m3 the latest range of Koch polishes, I've already shaken it. Modern abrasives now are pretty well suspended, so it doesn't look like the old ones where the type of solution, the carrier goes to the top and all the abrasives stick to the bottom and you have to shake it a lot, they are pretty well suspended, the abrasives in these formulations, shake it up anyway guys, first, first, I put four points and now I'm going to switch to the potato chamber, oh this.
It's a nightmare trying to do this on the fly. Well, here we are going to switch to potato. I'm going to run out of battery, but I'll put it in the car so you can have another view. Well, let's leave this. right in the corner there we go, okay, so potato can, here we go, you might want to wear ear protectors, you might want to wear a mask if you want, you might also want to wear clothes that don't have zippers, you might want to wear take off the jewelry you can do whatever you want guys it's about making detailed videos it becomes about spotting the mistakes the reality is we're all going to do things slightly differently and to different standards so what I'm going What to do is go back there, that is. rubber feet, so don't worry, now you can see exactly what I'm doing, guys, this pad is completely dry, so let's get it ready, okay, because it's our first game, so I'm going to turn this on, right?
OK? I'm just going to put a little more polish on to suck up that polish a little bit. Now I'm going to make three more dots, so I made my first primer with four and you could make three or four smaller ones. They just don't want to overload their work area and guys, the initial two by two work area is a really sensible size. I just put the polish on, the wire on my shoulder and I'm ready to spread the polish, that's the first thing. You always do an area two at a time, you can give it a few touches first to have a little more polish, you know, spread over the panel and then we're going to break the film.
Well, now the risk of doing anything. Damages or releases of any product have virtually disappeared and I have a good amount of product in there. Okay, now let's start this machine. I've talked about speeds before, so we'll go four and a half. thousand guys and we're going to polish for about two minutes something like this and you can see exactly how good or bad the results are. I haven't covered my glass, so you might see some splashes before on what what. that goes wrong is a good demonstration of why I said you should do it but here we go okay one thing right away I'm going to slow this down a little bit it feels like I'm going a little faster than I normally am I used to so I just did a little click below four um I'm not putting too much pressure guys what some of you might want to see is the position so let me grab a little marker so if we put a little line here you can see the loss ah , okay, here we go, it should be a better speed.
I'm a little over the limit, so that's four passes. Normally, I would probably do five or six when I'm feeling good, but you know what you get. the idea and we are on a stopwatch with the video, so now we take a clean cloth, these cloths are all folded tightly, pinch the open end, the end with four open ends so it can't go anywhere, lay it flat on the panel and just polish in little smooth circles like that look how easy that polish comes off look how easy it is okay I mean half the bat was just looking for a product that you won't find any problems with, but when you have a good Polishing Cloth Clean microfiber, nice polish and easy to use.
Look, how easy it was. Now I just keep that cloth. I remember doing that side so I could turn it over. That's my new side now. If you're inspecting, you'd probably do it now. I want to use the clean side and a little bit of cloth for the panel, in fact, let's do it, let's do it so that it works well here, okay, so we take a little bit of our cloth for the panel, you can be careful, you could sprout on the cloth if you want . Don't you think? The problem with this is that it's probably going to leave a lot of space, but anyway we're going good and then again we're going to polish this very gently with the clean side nice and cool today, which helps us. i want to polish this before it flashes okay that's great the temperature is 12 degrees so i think underneath it's 10 degrees or 5 degrees even the ipa will have a hard time flashing much slower today you'll want to make sure that everything is flashing and then take your inspection light and if you look here, guys, you can see, oh, we have the right light.
Now you can see the paint looks really good it's pretty smooth so it responded really well to polishing and just showing you the difference yeah this gopro can pick up swirls it looks like an unpolished boom so you can see all that bar of clay ruining horrible things, it looks like a hologram, doesn't it? You can see the swirls, let's pull that back, look and then we go to where we've polished that's why the polish is cool yeah, you know we're going to see things in this painting, although I'm having a hard time seeing anything. If I go up here, I can see a deep scratch here that you'll probably see.
I see on the camera if I move, yes, there you can see it going up and down where the light is, so it hasn't created perfection, but we haven't done anything complicated there, we haven't done anything you can't do and suddenly we've improved our paint from plaster-like defects to now looking shiny and damage-free, and all I would do, guys, would now say, "Okay, I want to go again." I can see a scratch here. I can see another scratch here. Pretty deep, if I'm going to remove those scratches, then I have to be consistent, really you know, and things start going through my head, or I just say, that's it.
I continue now and now work in that area. work on that area, work on this area, this area, this area, nine sections and then on the wing, you know whatever, however you want, work around the car and then voila, one set will give you maximum improvement efficiency. With this nice smooth paint now depends on the levels, the final results are obtained in two stages in which the heavy cutting compound is taken and the finishing polishing, which can become the most efficient. It's a different kettle of fish on hard paint jobs that are old and swirling, um this.
The paint, as I say, is smooth and responds very well to polishing. The downside is that it will probably swirl faster than hard paint, so I tend to like paint jobs that need heavy cutting and finishing. The two stages is where it is at that second. Refining the polish with a nice finishing polish and a soft pad, it's always a pleasure to do that. It gives you an idea, guys, of the level of improvement you can get out of one. You know this painting here, which is all swirly and with a hologram to paint. job, which is you know the paint job is at least 95 percent corrected toes in the wind or maybe not.
I'm here looking at a few more marks, but if I went through and did this on the entire car, I did a final cleaning. down with a nice soft cloth I put wax on top take my car out of the garage with the right light the car will transform and that's something really gratifying there's nothing right or wrong the main thing is when you're doing it, you don't want them to make mistakes so So go ahead and watch my video on how to avoid mistakes when polishing one of these. This is supposed to be a review of this polisher.
This polisher is really very powerful. I was taken by surprise by the speed. I think I was infour and a half or five, it was really powerful, so I turned it down to just below four, which seemed ideal for this soft painting. Maybe I could bump it up to four and a half if the paint was harder, it's nice to have all that. capacity there and not use it, this is a great machine if you are starting out guys, a really great machine, it is also a good backup machine, if you are a pilot, if you are a professional detailer and one of your main tools breaks, you will be able to do anything thing with this tool may take you a little bit longer than some of these other options here, these long range combos that we'll talk about in another video, that's the price compromise of the £99 unit that you can have. this and within two or three years you will be able to sell them for around £70, they are so popular and in such demand, which is exactly what I did with my dad6 pro.
I actually had it for about five years and sold it for not much less than I paid for it, there's a lot of demand for them so here we go. Thank you very much for viewing any questions you have about polishing. Paste them in the video. This is Daz 6. This is Da8. Sorry no.daz 6 pro the d8 from the details and we are doing a giveaway of all these polishes for my clients so if you want to support the channel check out the link on patreon. Thank you very much for watching this, it was a crossover video of a full professional camera that has probably already run out of battery, is that correct?
Yes, the battery ran out, switched to the potato camera, the first of its kind, see you soon, holding on to what I knew, but the moment is over. Where was I when you went home?

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