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The Jungle Machete Show Down, My Honest Opinions

Jul 06, 2021
Hello everyone, get ready for the

machete

show

down in the

jungle

. Now a little bit of the backstory on this video and why I'm making this video, okay. We're getting ready to go all in on these

machete

s, but what prompted this video is the simple fact. that there are a lot of reviewers on youtube that review products and they will take a knife or a machete or whatever and take it out of the box like new hold it up to the camera and say what the length of it is made of and all this kind of stuff and then maybe cut a bit now that for me it

show

s you what the machete looks like before you buy it but that's not the real story because they don't have time with that machete and experience with that machete to really understand what you're getting into so that the purpose of this video and i will explain why i chose these in particular and its mostly because of my experiences with these and what i learned and what i want you as a machete buyer buyer consumer what i would like you to understand and look for and expect in a machete ok ok cause i have the real story behind all this stuff here now as a consumer this is another thing there are a couple of things i'll have to ramble on about machetes and consumerism before i get into this, you as a machete-buying consumer there will be four different classifications and I want you to remember them because you have to think about these things as if you were experiencing a machete, okay, okay, bad bad good bad bad good clean up the mud ok ok let me let me clean it good good what that means is when you buy a machete and you take it out of the box it's a good machete you use it experience it you get used to it and it's still a good machete good bad bad is when you buy a machete and it's bad right out of the box and no matter what you do to it to sharpen it or modify it or re-sharpen it it will always be a bad machete now luckily none of these four are bad bad bad ok that's a classification we don't have now you need to pay attention to these other two , there is a good, bad, what is that? either it's too soft and the edges roll or it just dulls really fast and you can't put an edge on it, it's ok it's bad and no matter what you do the bad part is still bad because there are missing pieces on the blade. a lot of these or one of these that two of these are going to be in the classification bad good and that's where it comes straight out of the box it's horrible wood cut butter but you can work with it and modify it and re-sharpen it and have a good machete ok so those are some of the classifications there and then there's a couple other things I want to talk about huh and I'll talk about those as we get into the machetes particularly this one here I'm going to talk about heat treating and what it means and what it does and how it affects the sharpness of a bad machete, okay, so let's start with this, let's start talking about it.
the jungle machete show down my honest opinions
I was asked to do this video on this style of machete because of Max, mostly because of my experiences with these two here and what I had to do. for them and my hate for this one and my love for this one but now people can change their minds this hoax is good very fast cold steel

jungle

machete condor jungle oh hoax i think its like a schk one something is a kukri and then this is a honshu criticizing well huh this farce here is a funny relationship i had with this because when i first got it i liked it and then i hated it and now i love it it's weird and that's why this will be the focus of what i'm going to talk about hate and what you need to know now about these styles of machetes this is a kukri ok it's sort of from nepal it's got a point it's got a belly here and then a curve an up part of the spine. it has a clear break in it ok and thats a kukri now for some reason about 15 years ago it might be 20 the makers decided to make a longer one well they made a longer machete and flattened the top but kept the curve and the sweep up and they decided to call this a jungle machete ok this is the first one i was going to grab this is a condor jungle oh ok it's got the belly the curve and it's a little bit smoothed out on the back, okay, this is a cold steel jungle machete. the same thing straightened down the back with a curve and going up ok these two are actually called kukris but they are in the jungle machete style the tummy with the curve is like a drop but not a Distinctive break, that's a sham. this is the honshu bashing kukri but i don't know if it has some sort of break but i wanted to include this machete because it's so long it's more and doesn't have as much of a sag as a kitchen does. to white because the handle the handle goes as its own and this the spine is basically in line with this so and then I'm going to talk about my experiences with these things one at a time what they cost what they're made of the length of them what they do how they feel in my hand and what I had to do with these things to make them into a good usable machete so I hope you get a lot out of this I hope you learn a few things because I'm going to share a few things.
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I've never shared about machetes before so let's get started and I'm going to go from cheapest to most expensive. I'm going to talk about each of them and what I had to do to them before going into the details. a little bit of chopping and I'm mainly going to talk about this and the chopping part I'll cut out a bit we can go out in the field I'm not sure I haven't decided yet because there will be thunderstorms and rain every day this week so let's start a deep discussion about this, okay, the charade, let's start by talking about the heat. treatment now for those of you who know well those of you who don't this is a little lesson here they start with machete makers start with a piece of steel usually a piece of alloy steel or some type of steel that can be treated thermally ok it has alloy elements or carbon so what they do with it is cut a blank and sometimes they polish one edge of it and then heat treat it ok there is a thing called scaling Rockwell and that number designates how hard it's okay so they put it in a kiln and heat treat it and mix it up and take it to a place where it glows red and then they dip it in oil or sometimes chill it to air I'm not sure how but anyway that's the heat treat part now when it comes out of the heat treat oven it's very very brittle you can cut something with it and it will break in half or pieces will come out , so there is a process called pinning or normalizing or backing there are several different names for it and what they do then is they put it back in the oven at a lower temperature and they put it in there for a longer period of time at a lower temperature and it stabilizes ago something to the molecules is fine and it makes it the perfect rock, well, usually it's, I don't know, 45 to 55 depending on the type of steel, so this is what happens if the manufacturer messes up and they take it to where it is too hard, it will be brittle and pieces will come out. out of it or it will break in half if they don't harden it enough then the edge will just roll because it's smooth because it has such a sharp edge okay now the other thing I want to say is this is this is something that is very , very interesting sometimes you can get a new machete out of the box and they treated it right but they changed it and annealed it right but every time at the factory they were putting the final edge on it very very the edge overheated and it did brittle and that's exactly what Happened with this charade here and that's why I hated it so now that all is known about heat treating and annealing and sometimes even though a machete is done correctly the first grind they have put on it can make the edge overheated and brittle that if you come back with a file and a stone you can take that away and turn a bad machete into a good machete ok so let's get a little closer to this and trade of today jas schkm1 ok this thing has a 13 inch blade and it's made out of three cr13 now when i bought this about three years ago at christmas it was 34 but i've seen it go down to 28 now and they still sell this thing some of the reviews on amazon they're hit and miss there's probably about eight or nine photos of this machete broken in half somewhere in this area and that's due to improper heat treatment and then there's a couple of photos where this edge is all wavy here , so i wasn't expecting much when i bought this but i love the shape i thought the shape was cool ok so i took a chance and bought it now straight out of the box and never gave much thought to charade.
the jungle machete show down my honest opinions
I always thought that Charade was some kind of addicted company, so I stayed away from them, but I couldn't. I couldn't resist this because of the price and the shape, so when I bought it, I took it out of the box and from here to here it was like a giant razor blade. It was wonderful. I thought it would make a great machete, but the first time. out of the box when i used it it chipped nice so i thought that made me so mad i tossed this aside and didnt touch it nice then i thought to myself ok its a wasted machete why not?
the jungle machete show down my honest opinions
I tried to re-profile it so what I did is evidently they've overheated the edge of this thing because I had been reading Amazon reviews about how horrible the heat treatment was and how they were splitting in half so I thought maybe time mine had. an overheated edge where they had sharpened it so I sharpened this thing to a nice s The harp finish took it out, buried it in some red oak and kept the edge. It didn't chip this time, so this is classed as good, bad, good or yes, because it was razor sharp and then chunks came out and then me.
I sharpened it and then it turned out to be good it's a really comfortable handle that's okay and now one of the requirements that I like is that it has to have a lanyard hole because I like to have no matter how contoured the handle is I like to have a lanyard hole because I like to wear a lanyard that way you don't have to have a death grip on it because if you're wearing it all day you can have that lanyard on them okay now as far as the lanyard goes also when it comes to the holster the cover it came with most people would think this cover is a g piece excuse me piece of crap they don't like sanity sheets but this is just an ok cover for me now it came with some kind of a weird strap where you wear it around your shoulder instead of wearing the belt so I had to change a few things on the back to make it a decent belt but the way the machete goes in there is it opens like that and then it just slide carefully try not to cut all the straps now most of these machetes like this they have a strap that clips onto the handle like this that's fine with me one of my requirements is that i like the perfect length lanyard for my hand. in my eyes because I don't like having this thing dangling when I'm walking through the woods and this also comes with a little bag with a diamond sharpener in it and I think this diamond sharpener is rubbish because it puts a really thick edge on this machete, but i guess if you're out in the field and you don't have anything i guess it will work but i'm not a big fan of that ok so that's the farce version of the cold steel jungle machete this has been out for what minus 10 years now my experience experience with this machete almost sent me raja addicts now i never really ever hated or loved cold steel.
I thought they were kind of your average company and every time I looked at their machetes, I really wasn't really interested. them and so on but i was smoking mountain knives one time looking around and i had almost every machete i ever wanted to buy and i saw this one and at the time it was 24.99 so i thought man i'll take a chance because this model has been out for 10 years old so I'm going to take my chances for that price so it has a 16 inch blade it's made out of 1055c carbon steel and uh when I bought it it was everything. black painted a coated black and it had a very very small edge now this thing was probably done at about a 30 degree angle and then it had a very very slight angle like almost a 40 degree angle I'm telling you it could drag this thing through my arm and it wouldn't do anything I could probably stick it through my arm and it wouldn't do anything to me this was the biggest boring crap I've ever bought I was really disappointed but you know how I am i like the shape and style and length so i thought ok im going to sharpen this thing so i take out my stone because i dont want to overheat the edge and i take out my stone and start stoning it and it doesnt do anything its like stoning the glass I actually used my stone down so I took my file and tried to file it down and I couldn't fall off because it was so hard and I thought this was a waste of time and I was getting angrier and angrier and angrier and so I finally put oil on the file and put a lot of pressure on it and the ll I looked at where I would cut and I thought this is so hard that the machete is going to break in half or pieces are going to come out but I fought against it because this machete has been out for 10 years and there is something that people like like this which I finally got it to where it was filed down to a thinner edge of about 25 to 30 degrees asYou know, and for those of you who don't know, say they have a 25 degree edge from the factory, I think they did it with like a 30 degree edge and then whoever sharpened it put a 40 degree edge on it because they just touched it with a belt sander so anyway that's the explanation now it's a little above 25 degrees so after i did that with a file i took a set of stones and stoned them smooth and then took a strap and sharpened them and took them out in the yard and started chopping with them and this thing is now a beast and it no longer didn't chip it didn't chip it didn't roll I have no idea how they made a machete so hard and it didn't chip so it's a pretty decent machete now it has a nice edge to it but it's what took me several days and a lot of raging to sharpen this but once i get a head start it hasn't gotten boring but it holds up. on its edge it was fine the handle was absolutely horrible it was horrible this thing was sending so many vibrations up my arm that i had to grab a bottle of tylenol just to use this machete because there were some falls here and evidently whoever designed it shouldn't be using the machete for four hours because those dips made it very, very uncomfortable so what I did was take this is not duct tape it's duct tape it's much thicker and I actually put what's called a palm swell on it where it's bigger the middle and once I got it made it a lot more comfortable and it reduced the vibration a little bit now as far as I'm concerned what would make this machete a really good machete is cut this handle and buy some micarta and make a micarta handle that goes up here from here to here a longer handle that way it could stay here for cutting or it could choke here for carving so excuse me that's the story beh Find the cold steel now let's throw u n look at the sheet.
Everyone, as usual, says that the cover is also a piece of junk. I won't stab into anything but this thing here what you do is lift up the strap and it opens up like this and you just slide the holster over now here's the thing that you can lock right there but this doesn't work anymore because I've added the tape to it because the handle is it's come back a lot bigger, but this tape won't come off, so what I'm going to do is probably remove this thing here and just sew on a little bit of velcro. a little bit longer piece of velcro so i can put it around the handle because like i said this tape doesn't come off it stays there now so this holster fails the test because this is the proper lacing and it doesn't go this far , okay, but hopefully every time I put this like this, I expect it to contain at least one part. ok and i have added many times people who know me and have seen my videos i don't just carry a machete instead of having a machete and a knife on my belt i always just add the knife to the machete that way i have the whole system right there with me and then I add paracord, wrap the paracord around and put a bunch of hot glue on the back to secure it that way. loose from the hot glue and it will come loose but I paired this with an outdoor cold steel light and I have to say this knife floored me because I bought three other cold steel knives in the past and they were fine but this knife is just amazing, love it anyway enough about that just wanted to say what i added to this so let's move on to the next step we have the honshu hitting kukri when i saw this i absolutely fell in love with the shape i love it i thought this is awesome but the problem is hons hu bashing is a division of united cutlery and i always thought united cutlery was a crap company because their blades were like swords daggers dragons skulls all this kind of fantasy stuff that doesn't i thought no serious outdoorsman would ever buy but since i said i took a chance on this and this thing was seventy bucks ok and honshu also makes a joke i have so anyway this has a leaf 13 inches and it's made out of seven cr13 stainless steel ok here's the deal with this machete when this machete came out of the box it was stainless steel it was seven cr-13 it had a sharp edge like a razor razor i mean if you cut yourself on this thing out of the box then i thought oh great it's going to be a piece of junk it's going to splinter it's going to roll because nothing can hold an edge that sharp well what i do i went out and I cut a bit of ma rotted wood with it good and then I cut some twigs for a twig stove and then I'm like oh what the heck I cut some hardwood with it and it held up and never dull never rolled edge never splintered so it came right out of the box and held up well.
I took it out on some old hard red oak and cut it into large chunks and it's still sharp. I have not sharpened it. this still, so this is a surprise to me, an absolute surprise that anyone involved with United Cutlery could produce such a good machine and it has the lanyard hole. I have the cord where it fits perfectly. You know you can use it. without having to put the death grip on it so let's take a look at the holster the holster is a very very very good quality leather holster ok as usual you pull the strap back and gently slide the machete.
You now have a the leather strap here the straps hold the handle no problem it fits well the right length cord barely fits barely fits into that clasp just like that that part of the sheath passes the test for me it has a very large belt loop it's so big that it will not only fit on a regular g-belt, but if you're going to wear braces like an lc1 or fanny pack with a gi belt, this will fit on your gi belt, which is pretty cool because sometimes i wear a gi belt with an upgraded nylon fanny pack i have i combined this i have plenty of paracord here in case i find myself in a bad situation and i combined it with a martini made in finland thats ok because i haven't seen any honshu knife and i really like this knife , so that's that kit right there the attack on honshu this is condor jungleo ok now i used to be the biggest fan of condor now the reason i say it used to be because for me their quality control has gone downhill and their price ios have been shot in the past every condor machete i bought came straight out of the box perfect razor sharp ready to go i cut it they didn't dull they stayed sharp they were absolutely wonderful well this was the start of my downfall with condor because this came in like a giant butter knife never in my life have I experienced a machete so blunt out of the box now this machete this jungle oh it was 90 if you pay 90 for a machete you are going to expect quality and you don't i got so that kinda pissed me off so anyway this is a 13 inch blade with a 13 inch cutting edge it's made out of 1075 high carbon steel and i paid 90 bucks for this machete and it was so dull i could have put it on my arm and then I hit the back with a piece of wood and it would have hurt my arm I mean it was literally like a butter knife I just couldn't believe it and I've noticed a lot of the reviews It's what people are doing they complain about their quality here slightly over the last uh year or two and also complain about uh uh the prices have skyrocketed which is not good so you know I've strayed a bit from condor and started looking at other options so anyway this thing here and i think it has a hickory handle huh the handle here has what is called a palm shoal big hair joe flores is a long time condor designer and most of his designs are wonderful he understands handles he understands blade geometry he makes good designs but it has nothing to do with quality control in el salvador where they are made and that is where a lot of the problems arise but from anyway this thing here when it came out of the box was a piece of junk so if you can't sharpen if you don't sharpen if you don't want to sharpen if you don't want to re-sharpen then this may be your last option but if you have the ability to sharpen a profile l of ray, you can get one of these, you know, spend 90 bucks, spend some time on it and then once you sharpen it, it's a wonderful machete, it's absolutely fantastic. it had going for it it's absolutely wonderful sh the leather sheets of the boots a lot of them have these danglers on them which is great because you put it on your belt and it allows it to sway a bit if needed while it's on your belt you can lift it up to put it on one hand if you're soft enough you can get in there and lift those straps drop it down and put it like this lock it here here this holster passes my test for that ok now when i first got this thing of course i added the paracord to it when i first got it.
Eventually I'm going to take that off and put a condor knife in here because I have about three condor knives in leather sheaths with round handles that will fit perfectly here, so I'm going to get rid of this. and put a condor back here like that it'll be a condor combo okay so that's the rundown of everything f our machetes machetes and let's start with our use and take several of these tests to be done in the field but some of them are just easier to film here at home on the chopping block so this is this is the test of speed and how the blade feels to chop up little things because sometimes if you have a swiss volcanic stove or a light amber or something like that you want little pieces instead of just twigs and many times when I carry a Swiss volcano stove.
I'll cut a lot of pieces, little pieces, okay and usually when I'm in the woods what I'll do is hold the piece and cut it like this so all the pieces will fall right there one thing before that very fast a lot people ask how sharp your machete should be well one of the tests to see if you have your machete sharp enough is if you take the whole arm and go down and cut with that is one thing ok but if you take your wrist and just you take a tap and it sticks in your cut with just a tap then it's sharp enough ok so that's one way to judge it right there so let's start the charade and see how it works how it feels how works. in my hand, any machete is going to cut these things into little twigs, but look, usually you'll do it at the end like this, I see that it feels pretty good, I'll do it down here because there's a weight here that allows me to do it. to cut with less force sometimes you can do that but most people will keep this edge for their fine carving ok that thing has a super super super comfortable hand and i don't feel vibration when i'm cutting now it's so sharp that with every hit It just wants to stick and I have to take it out, but I've never complained about things being too sharp, but it feels good in the hand.
There is no vibration. You know it performs well on the speed twig test. Let's see how that kind of bounces that fi The first time I'm not necessarily swinging so I've got this thing clean enough I mean if it bounces then it's not going to be a fair comparison to the others so let's see how this one performs now he's got a lot more length to him and i've experienced vibrations in the past with this thing the vibration isn't that bad really now that it can wear you down with such length so let's see how he does if we choke here and let this target do the most part of the time. cutting works fine but without this this thing vibrates like you wouldn't believe it would also be nice like I said if you could modify this thing and get rid of this handle and put a longer handle that you could choke on here like that and that thing I could really say I don't have a I don't have a good grip because I'm gripping the steel but you could choke on certain tasks like that and then come back here for when you're swinging it vines and thorns and grass so it worked out pretty good but like I said , without this this vibrates speeds and vibrations in my arm like you wouldn't believe now we have the honshu hitting this handle it's a very very hard plastic it's as hard as cold steel but I don't seem to be picking up as much vibration when I hold it use this one so let's see how the test goes here nice and sharp now see how it does on the speed test this thing goes well it doesn't vibrate it feels great lets try it here on this one somewhere here i don't know if i can get a up here or not I don't see that doesn't work well because this has more curve than the others as close as it could be here probably and see when you're doing that thing that tends to wear it down it doesn't wear your hand out as much as if you were doing it last because when I'm doing this eventually I can feel a little bit more vibration and you can also do things a lot faster let me take one more piece here go here a minute so you can make a lot of little twigs you can make a lot of them very very quickly from that way so honshu banging condor jungle oh now if you look at it very carefully this has a serious convex grind I put on it and even strapped it on I strapped it on a leather strap to a nice polish like this that look how it goes it's nice and crisp pretty fair comparison let's see how it works out this doesn't have as much of a curve so i can cut here at the end and allow this white to do the mostbeing some kind of video mute you know why i would just wear them and say i love all three so yeah all three are just going to pass my swapping test yeah brains will be beasts they are awesome of course they are all they are very very old i guess back when they had higher quality control standards but anyway next video is going to be something very interesting there is a piece of equipment i have developed it is an improvement over an old piece so you'll just have to wait and see what's so huh until then enjoy life uh get out uh cut some things and see you next time see you later

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