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The First 2020 Presidential Debate: Joe Biden & Donald Trump (Full Debate - ENGLISH)

Apr 17, 2024
uh okay good evening from case western reserve university health education campus and cleveland clinic. I'm chris wallace from fox news and I welcome you to the

first

of the

2020

presidential

debate

s between president

donald

j.

trump

and former vice president joe

biden

. This

debate

is sponsored by the Presidential Debates Commission. The commission has designed the format for six segments of approximately 15 minutes with two-minute responses from each candidate to the

first

question and then an open discussion for the rest of each segment. Both campaigns have accepted these. rules for the record, I decided the topics and questions for each topic.
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I can assure you that none of the questions have been shared with the commission or with the two candidates. This debate is being held under health and safety protocols designed by the Cleveland Clinic, which serves as the commission's health safety advisor for all four debates. As a precaution, both campaigns have agreed that the candidates will not shake hands at the beginning. of tonight's debate the audience here in the room has promised to remain silent without applause or boos or other interruptions so that, most importantly, they can concentrate on what the candidates have to say, without noise, except now, when We welcome the Republican candidate, President Trump, and the Democratic candidate, Vice President, Biden.
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Gentlemen, a lot of people have been waiting tonight, so let's begin our first The topic is Chief Justice Trump, you nominated Amy Coney Barrett over the weekend to succeed the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the court. She says the Constitution is clear about her and the Senate's obligation to consider a nominee for vice president, Biden. She says this is an effort by the president and Republicans to hinder an appointment and what you call an abuse of power. My first question to you two tonight, why are you right in the argument you make and your opponent is wrong and where do you think a judge can be found? barrett would take the court president

trump

in this first segment you go first two minutes thank you very much chris I will tell you very simply we won the elections elections have consequences we have the senate we have the white house and we have a phenomenal candidate respected by all excellent academic excellent in all the senses good in every way in fact some of its biggest sponsors are very liberal people from Notre Dame and other places so I think it's going to be fantastic we have a lot of time even if we did it after the election itself I have a lot some time after the election, as you know, so I think she will be outstanding, she will be as good as anyone who has served on that court.
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We really feel that we have a teacher at Notre Dame who is very respected by everyone who said she is the best student they have ever had, she has been a teacher for a long time at a great school and we just won the election and therefore we have the right to elect her and very few people would knowingly say otherwise and by the way the Democrats wouldn't even think about not doing it if they had the only difference is that they would try to do it faster, there is no way they would quit, they had the garland of merits, but The problem is that they didn't have the elections. so they were detained and that would probably happen the other way around, it would also definitely happen the other way around, so we won the election and we have the right to do that, Chris, President Trump, thank you, same question for you, Vice President Biden, you have two minutes, Well, first of all, thank you for doing this and I look forward to this, Mr.
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President. The American people have the right to have a say in who the Supreme Court nominee is and that say happens when they vote for United States senators and when they vote for the president of the United States they are not going to have that opportunity now because we are in the middle of a election, the election has already started, tens of thousands of people have already voted and what should happen is we should wait, we should wait and see what the outcome of this election is because that is the only way the American people can express Your opinion is who you choose as president and who you choose as vice president.
Now what is at stake here is that the president made it clear what he wants. to get rid of the affordable care act that he's been running and that he's been ruling that is in the supreme court right now trying to get rid of the affordable care act that will strip 20 million people of having health insurance now if they're going to the court and uh, justice and I have nothing, I'm not opposed to judges, she seems like a very good person, but she wrote before taking the bench, which is her right. thinks the affordable care law is not constitutional, the other thing is in court and if it is overturned, which happens, women's rights fundamentally change, once again a woman could be helped to pay more money because she has a pre-existing pregnancy condition. they were able to charge a woman more for the same exact procedure that Amanda received and that ended when we actually passed the affordable care act and there are a hundred million people who have pre-existing conditions and they're going to have them removed as well. pre-existing conditions the insurance companies are going to love this so it's just not appropriate to do this before this election if you win the election and the senate is Democrat or Republican then move on if not we should wait until February, There are not a hundred million people with pre-existing conditions as far as your opinion, people already had their opinion, they were fine, Justice Ginsburg said very power

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y, very strongly at some point ten years ago or something like that, she said that a president and the Senate are elected for one period of time but a president is elected for four years we are not elected for three years I am not elected for three years so we have the senate we have a president elected for the next during that period of time during that period of time time we have a vacancy I'm not elected for three years I'm elected for four years and 100 million people jill the 100 million people are totally wrong I don't know where you got that number the biggest problem you have is that they are going to extinguish 180 million people with their private health care that's just not true well, you said no, you're going to be a socialist now you're going to socialize now we're under knights now we're in open discussions yes, I agree, go ahead, vice president number one, he knows that What I proposed is that we expand Obamacare and increase it, we don't erase any of the great debates that we had with 23 of my colleagues. trying to win the nomination that I won they said Biden wanted to allow people to have private insurance, they can still do it, they will do it under my proposal, it's not what you said right and it's not what the party says, that's just the match. your party doesn't say it wants to be a socialist party I'm a socialist right now I am and they're going to dominate you joe you know I'm the democratic party right now the platform of the democratic party is what I actually approved what I approved now, here's the agreement, the agreement is that he will eliminate pre-existing conditions and, by the way, the 20, the 200 million, the 200,000 people who died under his rule, that's how many of them have survived.
Well, there are seven million people who signed up for Covet, what does it mean for them in the future if the Affordable Care Act is struck down? Joe, you've had 308,000 military members die because you couldn't give them proper medical care in the military, so don't do it. Don't tell me anything happy to talk about it and if you were here it wouldn't be 200, it would be two million people because you arrived very late to the draw. You didn't want me to ban China, which was very infected. I don't want you to bend me, gentlemen, who was largely the president, you would have been much later, sir probably later, Mr.
President, you are talking about two million people, you are not president, as moderator we are going to talk about covet in the next segment, but go ahead and let me finish. The point is that the president also opposes Roe v. Wade, which is also on the ballot and in the court, so that's also in play right now, so the election is fine, I know. it's on the ballot why it's on the ballot because it's not on the ballot it's on the ballot in court, I think so in court, well, it's okay there,

donald

, you don't know his opinion on roe v wade, no.
I know. Well, okay, let's talk, we would have a lot to unpack here, gentlemen, we have a lot of time, so on health care and then we'll get back to Roe v Wade, okay, Mr. President, the Supreme Court will listen. a case a week after the election in which the trump administration along with 18 state attorneys general are trying to repeal that's right, obamacare, to end obamacare, you have spent the last because they want to provide good health, if I may ask questions, sir, good health care about Uh, in the last four years you have promised to repeal and replace Obamacare, but never in these four years have you put together a plan, a comprehensive plan to replace Obamacare, of course you have, well, I I will undo the individual amendments that I am going to make.
I'll give you an answer, I got rid of the individual mandate, which was a big part of it, it's absolutely a big thing, it was the worst part of Obamacare and I would like you to let me ask my question and then you can answer it in the course. In these four years, there has never been a comprehensive plan to replace Obamacare, and just last Thursday you signed a largely symbolic executive order to protect people with preexisting conditions five days before this debate, so my question, sir. , is what is Trump's health protection? care plan well, first of all, I guess I'm debating with you, not him, but that's okay, I'm not surprised, let me tell you something, there is nothing symbolic, I am reducing drug prices, I am going with the favorite nations that no president has. the courage to do it because you are going against big pharma, drug prices will drop by 80 or 90 percent;
You could have done it during your 47 year stint in government, but you didn't, no one has, so we're cutting health care all the things we've done I'll give you an example insulin that's going to destroy families destroy people the cost I'm getting it for so cheap it's like water you want to know the truth so cheap take a look at all the drugs we are doing prescription drug prices we are going to allow our governors now to go to other countries to buy drugs because they pay only a small fraction discussion, they'll be happy with what I'm talking about.
I want to pick up on one of your points and ask the vice president: he points out that he would like to add a public option to Obamacare and the argument that he and other Republicans make is that that's going to end private insurance. . and well, if I ask him the question, his party will end private insurance and create a government takeover of health care. It's not like that, it's only for those people who are so poor that they qualify for Medicaid and can get it for free in most states, except the governors who want to deny that people are poor on Medicaid.
Anyone who qualifies for Medicare would mean Medicaid would be automatically enrolled in the public option. The vast majority of the American people would still not be in that number one option, which is why they agree with Bernie Sanders, from the extreme left in the manifesto. we call it man who gives you socialized medicine look, hey, aren't you still going to listen to it? The fact of the matter is that I beat Bernie Sanders not by much, I beat him by a lot. I'm here, I'm standing here. in front of you you would have left two days earlier you would have lost all the prices oh he knows how to do it super Tuesday you have to look hard here you have a deal I was very lucky playing very lucky tonight too and tonight I will make sure because this is the deal, this is the deal, the fact is that everything he is saying so far is simply a lie.
I'm not here to call out your lies. Everyone knows he's a liar, but you, I just want to tell you that I want to make sure. first, you were last in your class tonight, oh god, I want to make sure the president, can you let him finish, sir? night at the wrong time listen you agreed with you just lost the left you agreed with bernie sanders on a plan absolutely socialized medicine mr president tells you what he is not for any help for people who need medical care because of fact it has already cost 10 million people getting health care that they got from their employers because of their recession number one, number two, there are 20 million people getting health care through Obamacare, now that he wants to take it away, he will never look at the eyes and he'll say that's what he wants to take away from you oh I want to give the numbers better health care at a much lower price because by the way you don't know how to do it you have to move on mr obamacare it's not good for us.
I improved it and had to take onedecision from the beginning. We removed the individual mandate. We guarantee pre-existing conditions, but we remove the individual mandate. Listen, that's how it is and that destroyed that they shouldn't even call it Obamacare. so I had to make a decision: let my people handle it very well or badly, if I do it badly, they will probably blame him, but they will blame me, but the most important thing is that I want to help people, okay, I said you have to run it so well, that's true, and I just had a meeting with them, they said the problem is that no matter how well Obamacare is run, it's a disaster, it's too expensive, the premiums are too high and It doesn't work, we want to get rid of it. what we want to achieve get rid of that, I understand, but I have to do it.
I have to give it approximately the same time. Please let the vice president speak well. He doesn't have a plan for health care. Yes, we ship it. Please, he sends illusions. He has executive orders. He has no power. he hasn't lowered drug costs for anyone. He has been promising a health care plan since he was elected. he doesn't have any like almost everything else he talks about. He doesn't have a plan. He doesn't have a plan and the fact is this man doesn't. I don't know what he's talking about. I have one last question for you.
Sure, Mr. Vice President, we Senate Republicans were originally talking about the Supreme Court. If Senate Republicans go ahead and confirm Judge Barrett, there has been talk of ending the filibuster. or even packing the court by adding the nine justices there, you call this a distraction on the part of the president, but it was actually not mentioned by the president, but by some of his Democratic colleagues in, I mean, congress, so my The question for you is: Have you refused to talk about it in the past? Are you willing to tell the American people tonight whether or not you will support ending the filibuster or closing the course, whatever position you take on the matter?
The problem is that the American people should speak. You should get out and vote. You are voting now. I'm not going to answer the question because you answered that because the question is radical left justice can you hear who's on your list joe? Here we have finished this segment, let's move on to the second segment which was really a productive segment, wasn't it? Keep barking, man, people understand, yes, 47 years, you have done nothing, they understand well, the second topic is coveted, 19, which is a tremendously serious topic, so let's try to be serious about it. With more than 7 million coronavirus cases in the United States and more than 200,000 people dead even after we produce a vaccine, experts say it could be months or even years before we return to anything approaching normal. .
My question to both of you is Based on what you have said and done so far and what you have said you would do starting in 2021, why should the American people trust you more than your opponent to address this public health crisis in the future? In this case, the question is for you first. sir, two uninterrupted minutes good luck two hundred thousand dead as you said more than seven million infected in the United States in fact we have five percent four percent of the world population twenty percent of deaths forty thousand people a day contract greed also That's why today between seven and fifty and a thousand people are dying.
When they presented that number to him, he said that's what's good, it's what it is because you are who you are, that's why the president doesn't have any plan, he hasn't done it. He explained everything he knew. in February how serious this crisis was. He knew it was a deadly disease. What did? He's on tape acknowledging that he knew. He said he didn't tell us or give people a warning about it. because he didn't want the American people to panic, don't panic, he panicked, besides that, what did he do? He came in and we insisted that the Chinese, the people we had on the ground in China, should be able to do it. go to Wuhan and determine for themselves how dangerous this was.
He didn't even ask her to do it. He told us what a great job he was doing. He said we owe him a debt of gratitude for being so transparent with us and what he did. then he did nothing he waited and waited and waited he still doesn't have a plan in March I laid out exactly what we should do and in July I laid out again what we should do, we should provide all the protection Team positions, we should provide the money that the house has approved to be able to go out and get people the help they need to keep their businesses open.
Open schools that cost a lot of money. You should get out of your bunker and go outside. out of the sand trap and get on your golf course and go to the oval office and bring Democrats and Republicans together and fund what needs to be done now to save lives, so if we had listened to you, you have two minutes, sir, If I had listened to you the country would have been completely open millions of people would have died not two hundred thousand and one person is too many it is China's fault it should never have happened they stopped me from entering but it was China's fault and the way when you talk about numbers no you know how many people died in China you don't know how many people died in Russia you don't know how many people died in India they don't exactly give you an exact count just so you understand, but if you look at what we've done, I closed it and you guys said it's xenophobic, that he's racist and that he's xenophobic because they didn't think he should have shut down our country, wait a minute, many of you, a Democratic governor said President Trump did a phenomenal job.
We work with the governor. Oh really, take a look. The governor said I did a phenomenal job. Most of them said that, in fact, people who wouldn't necessarily be on my side said that President Trump did a phenomenal job. we got the gowns we got the masks we made the ventilators you wouldn't have made ventilators and now we are weeks away from a vaccine we are doing therapies fewer people die when they get sick many fewer people die we have done a great job the only thing I have not done a good job and that's because of fake news no matter what you tell them they give you bad press it's just fake news they give you good press they give me bad press because unfortunately that's how things are, but let me tell you something that I don't care about, I've already used to it, but I'll tell you, Joe, you never could have done the job we did, you didn't. it's in your blood you could never have done that, but I know how to do the job I know how to get the job right you didn't do very well in the h1n1 swine flu you were a disaster your own boss 14. 14,000 people died no 200,000 there weren't economic recession that you invented and there was no one there is no we closed the economy this is your economy that is being closed the reason it was closed is because look at home, how many of You woke up this morning and you had an empty chair on the kitchen table because someone died of greed.
How many of you were in a situation where you lost your mom or dad and couldn't even talk to them? They had a nurse holding a phone. up so you could actually say goodbye you would have lost overseas your own CDC director says we could lose up to another 200,000 people between now and the end of the year and he hugged him and said if we just wear a mask we can save half of those numbers it's just a mask and by the way, in terms of the whole notion of a vaccine, we are for a vaccine, but I don't trust it at all, nor do I know that you don't, we trust like a scientist, you won't let me move on to questions about the future because both of you have touched on one of the two questions I'm going to ask, focusing on the future first President Trump, who you have contradicted or been to repeatedly. disagreements with some of the government's top scientists last week the head of the centers for disease control, dr. redfield, you said it would be summer before the vaccine was available to the general public you said you were confused and wrong those were your two words but slowly the head of your operation, Worf Speed, has said exactly the same thing.
Are they both wrong? Well, I have spoken to the companies and we can have it much sooner. It's a very political thing because people like this would rather do it. political that saving lives is something very political. I have spoken to pfizer. I've talked to everyone you need to talk to. We have great modern Johnsons and Johnsons and others that can go faster than that. very political because the left or I don't know what the head of his operation is doctor warp speed I don't agree with him yeah no I don't agree with both and he didn't say he said he could be there but he could also be I had it in my office for two days.
You talked about the summer, sir, before it is generally available. He said there is a chance we will have the answer before November 1. It could also be available to everyone. Well, let's deliver it properly. away we have the military all set up logistically they are all set up we have our army that delivers soldiers and they can do 200,000 a day they are going to be this is the same man everything is set up for Easter this would be gone by the warm weather it would have gone miraculously like a miracle and by the way, maybe you could inject some bleach into your arm and that would fix it.
This is a sarcastic story. You know what he would have said. sarcasm, so here's the deal, this guy is talking about a vaccine, all the serious companies are talking about maybe having a vaccine ready by the end of the year, but distribution of that vaccine won't happen until early to mid next year anus. take it out if we get the vaccine and let's pray to God, let's do it, let's God, Mr. Vice President, I want to pick up although I want to pick up on this question, although you say the public can trust scientists but they can't trust President Trump.
In fact, you said that again tonight. His running mate, Senator Harris, goes further to say that the appointment of public health experts will be muzzled and suppressed, given the fact that polls already show that people are worried about the vaccine and are reluctant to take her. Is it you and your candidacy? Comrade, senator harris does not contribute to that fear any more than the question he just asked you, you pointed out that he exerts pressure and does not agree with his own scientist, but you say that you cannot listen to senator harris who says no can trust the side well no, no you can't trust the scientist he does, she didn't say you can't, she said public health experts will be gagged, they will be suppressed, well that's what he's going to try to do, but there are millions of scientists, there are thousands of scientists like here in this great hospital who do not work for him, their work does not depend on him, those are not the people there and, by the way, the scientists who are charge, by the way, they will have the vaccine very soon do you believe for a moment what he is telling you in light of all the lies he has told you about the whole greed related thing, he still hasn't even acknowledged that he knew this was happening , I knew how dangerous the return was going to be. in February and he didn't even tell you that he's on record saying that he panicked or just looked at the stock market, one of the two because guess what a lot of people died and a lot more are going to die unless he gets a lot.
Smarter, much faster, Mr. President, did you use the word smart? He then said that he went to Delaware State but forgot the name of his college. He didn't go to the state of Delaware. He graduated at or near the bottom of his class. No Never use the word smart with me never use that word oh give me you because you know there's nothing smart about you joe 47 years you've done this let's add this to ben you would have let me tell you Something Joe, if you had been in charge of what It happened to me, I had to shut down the largest economy in the history of our country and by the way, now it is being built again, let's move on to the economy in the next segment, sir, okay, that's it.
Get up quick, okay, when it comes to how the virus has been handled so far, you two have taken very different approaches and this will affect how the virus is handled in the future, whichever of you ends up becoming the next president I want. quickly go through several of those reopenings vice president

biden

you have been much more reluctant than president trump about reopening the economy and schools why sir because he doesn't have a plan if I was running I know what the plan is that you have to give these companies the ability to have the money to be able to reopen with the ppe and with the sanitation that they need, you have to give them pelosi, well, shut up for a minute, say yes, by the way, nancy pelosi and Schumer , they have a plan, he won't even meet with them, the Republicans won't meet with the Senate, but he sits, he sits on his golf course and I mean, literally, think about it, you probably play more than me, what's up? with this question? of reopenings and the fact that he wants to close this country and I want to keep it open and we did a great job, wait a minute, let meclose you for a second, Joe, just for a second, we want him to want to close.
All over the country we just went through it. We had to do it because we didn't know anything about the disease. Now we find out that older people with heart problems and diabetes and different problems are very, very vulnerable. We learned a lot. Little children aren't even. Not younger people, we have learned a lot, but he wants to close it. More people are going to be hurt if it continues if you look at Pennsylvania, if you look at certain states that have been shut down, they have Democratic governors, all one of the reasons. are closed is because they want to keep it closed until after the November elections because I wanted to get into something else, but those states that are closed are not doing well in those states that are closed responding that they have begun to question the effectiveness more and more. of masks as a preventative of diseases and, in fact, recently you have mentioned the issue of waiters touching their doughs and touching the plates.
Are you wondering? No, I think they're passionate you have to understand if you look I mean I have a mask right here I put a mask on you know when I think I need it tonight as an example everyone has had a test and you've had social distancing and all the things that you have to do. but I wear masks when it's necessary when it's necessary I wear a mask okay let me ask you I don't have I don't wear a mess like he every time you see him he has a mask he could be talking about from 200 feet away If he shows up with the biggest mask that I have ever seen in my life, I will say Vice President Biden, go ahead sir, look, the way to open businesses is to give them the means to be able to open, we provide money to Congress, I was asking you, sir, about the masks. well the mask should make a big difference, your own head of the CDC said if we just wore mass from now on, if everyone wore a mask socially distanced between now and January we would probably save up to a hundred thousand lives, it's important and they have made.
They also saw the opposite. They also said no, no serious person said otherwise, no, look seriously. Dr. Fauci said he did it very strongly. One minute left and the evaluation is not good, then he changed his mind and said I'm fine. with the masks I want to ask you both about one last topic because your different approaches have affected even the way you have campaigned, President Trump, you are holding large rallies with packed crowds, thousands of people, I would say outside, yes sir, Okay, vice president. Biden, he's holding much smaller events and no one will show up.
People with mathematics. That is true? Nobody shows up to Israel. Why do you organize the big demonstrations anyway? Why not? It goes first, sir, because people want to hear what I have to say. I mean, I mean, but aren't you worried about the president? I will have 25 to 35,000 people show up at the airports. We use the airports well so far, we haven't had any problems, it's outside. That's a big difference according to the experts and we make them. We have tremendous crowds outside, as you'll see, I mean literally 24 hours in advance and Joe does the circles and he has three people somewhere.
Well, by the way, did you just do one of the last big rallies he had and a journalist approached? him to ask him a question he said no, no, don't back away, put on the mask, put on a mask, have you been tested? I am very far from those other people. That's what he said. Can't. everything is going to be okay he is not worried about you he is not worried about the people outside breathing in one of them we have had no negativity no negative effects we have had no negative effects and we have had 35 40 thousand right people wanted Israelis Just finish quickly because I want to move on to the next one.
Yes you would, you have been totally irresponsible in the way you have handled social distancing and people wearing masks are basically encouraging them not to. So it's a fool if you could get the crowds they would have done the same but they can't, no one can, gentlemen, can we move on to the appearance? gentlemen, can we move on to the economy? Yes, the economy is, I think it's fair to say, recovering from the shutdown faster than expected, much faster. in the second quarter the unemployment rate fell to 8.4 last month the federal reserve says the impact on growth will not be as great as they expected president trump you say we are in a v-shaped recovery vice president biden, you say it's more k-shaped, what difference does that make for the American people in terms of the economy? president trump in this segment you go first so we built the largest economy in history we shut it down because of china when the plague came we shut it down which was very difficult psychologically he didn't think we should shut it down and he was wrong and again two million people would be dead now instead of 204 thousand people, it is too many. person is too much should never have happened in China but what happened is we closed it and now we are reopening and we are doing record business, we had 10.4 million people in a four month period that we have put back into the workforce which is a record like never seen before and he wants to close it, he will close it again, he will destroy this country, you know a lot of people between drugs, alcohol and depression, when you start to close it, you take a look at what is happening in some of your Democrat-run states where they have these strict lockdowns and I tell you it's because they don't want to open them, one of them came to light last week. to open on November 9th why November 9th because it's after the election they think they're hurting us by keeping them closed they're hurting people people know what to do they can social distance they can wash their hands they can wear masks they can do what they want to but they have to open these states when you look at north carolina when you look and these governors are under siege pennsylvania michigan and a couple of others you have to open these states it's not fair what you're talking about it's almost like being in prison and look what is happening with divorce, look what is happening with alcoholism and drugs, it is something very, very sad and it will shut down the whole country, this guy will shut down the whole country and destroy our country our country is coming back incredibly well setting records while doing it ago we don't need someone to come in and say let's close it okay you have two minutes sir now we move to you as I said posing the question the president says it's a V-shaped recovery you say it's a K-shaped recovery what's the difference the difference is that millionaires and billionaires like him in the midst of the cover crisis have done very well other ray billionaires have made another 300 billion dollars because of his wasteful tax proposal and he only focused on the market, but you folks from home, you people who live in Scranton and Claymont and all the small, working-class towns in America, how old is this guy, did you pay him well overall? 750 dollars in taxes, wait right now sir, I understand he has agreed to the two minutes, so please let him do it and I will get my time back.
The fact is that, in fact, he has worked on this in a way that he will be the first president of the United States to leave office having fewer jobs in his administration than when he became president less jobs than when he became the first president in the American history secondly the people who have lost their jobs are those people who have been on the front lines those people who have been saving our lives, those people who have been there dying, people who have been working hard to make sure that We can all try to achieve this and the idea that he insists that we move forward and open up when necessary. they have almost half of the states in america with a significant increase in covert deaths and covert cases in the united states of america and he wants to open it up more why he wants to open it up why don't you take care of america you Can't fix the economy until they fix it the greed crisis and he has no intention of doing anything to improve things at home for all of you in terms of health and safety.
Schools. Why are schools open? Because it costs a lot of money. Open them safely you know they were going to give their administration masks to teachers and students at school and then they decided no they couldn't do that because it's not a national emergency they haven't done anything to help small businesses. nothing, they're closing, one in six is ​​gone, he should get to work and take care of the needs of the American people, so we can't open the safe, okay, time's up sir, let's get to what I have. To respond to that, you both had two minutes, sir, excuse me, you made a statement: people want their schools, nobody wants their schools open, they don't want them to close, they don't want their state to close, they want their restaurants.
Look at New York, it's very sad what's happening in New York, it's almost like a ghost town and I'm not sure I can ever get back what they've done in New York. People want their places to be open. They want to get back to their lives. They will be careful, but they want their schools. I am the one who recovered football. By the way, I got Big Ten football back. It was me and I'm very happy to do it and, well, the people of Ohio are very proud of it. You and I are not going to talk about that gentleman, we are going to address his economic plans in a moment, but first, Mr.
President, as you well know, there is a new report that in 2016, the year he was elected president, and in 2017. In his first year as president he paid $750 a year in federal income taxes each of those years. I know he pays a lot of other taxes, but I ask the specific question: is it true that he paid $750 in federal income taxes? each of those two years I paid millions of dollars in taxes millions of dollars in income taxes and let me tell you there was a story in one of the newspapers I paid 38 million one year I paid 27 million show us your tax returns I went uh you'll see as soon as it's finished, you'll see, you know, if you want to go to the board of elections, there's a report that's about 118 pages that says everything that I have, all the banks that I have, I'm totally underleveraged because the assets are extremely good and We have a I built it.
I'm asking you a specific question which is, let me tell you, I understand all of that. No, Mr. President. I'm asking you a question. Will you tell us? how much you paid in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017. million dollars, you paid millions of dollars, millions of dollars, millions of dollars, and you'll be able to see it and you'll be able to see it, but let me tell you, Chris. Let me tell you something: it was the tax laws. I don't want to pay taxes before coming here. I was a private developer. He was a private businessman.
People like any other private person, unless they're stupid, they go through the laws and that's what it is, they passed a tax bill that gave us all these depreciation privileges and tax credits, we built the building and we got tax credits like the hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue, you get a huge one which, by the way, they gave to me. by the Obama administration, if you can believe now the man was fired right after that happened, but why does President Biden want to respond? Yes, I want to answer. Look at the tax code that put him in a position where he pays less taxes.
What a schoolteacher earns with the money a schoolteacher earns is thanks to him. He says he's smart because he can take advantage of the tax code and takes advantage of the tax code. That's why I'm eliminating the Trump tax. cuts and we're going to eliminate those taxes and make sure we invest in the people who actually need the help, people need help, but why didn't he do it in the last 25 years in 47? months, I've done more than you've done in 47 years, Joe, we've done things you didn't even think about, okay, including fixing the broken army you gave me, taking care of you, Mr.
President, we're talking about the economy. I would like to ask you about your plans for the future because, Mr. Vice President, your economic plan, if you were elected president, focuses a lot on big government, big taxes, big spending, I want to focus first on the taxes that you propose, more than four billions. dollars for a decade in new taxes on people who earn more than four hundred thousand dollars a year and on corporations, President Trump says that type of tax increase is going to hurt the economy, since it is just coming out of a recession, Well, let's take a Look at what the analysis of Wall Street companies says that my economic plan would create seven million more jobs in four years, number one and number two, it would create an additional trillion dollars in economic growth because What we have to do would be to buy American products.
We're going to make this federal government spend 600 billion a year on everything from ships to steel to buildings andsimilar, and according to my proposal, we will make sure that every penny of that. it has to be done by a company with respect, so I'm talking about taxes that don't spend well, by the way, I'm going to eliminate a significant amount of the tax that I'm going to do, the corporate tax 28 shouldn't be 21 you have 19 companies, 91 federal companies, that is, in the Fortune 500, that do not pay a single cent in taxes, generating billions of dollars, why didn't you, billions of dollars?
Because Obama, because he actually approved that that was your tax. proposal, you did it and you know what happened, you did it, economic boom, Mr. President, let me get back to it, you would continue with your free market approach, lower taxes, more deregulation, right, not lower taxes, American people, but Obama talks about a booming economy, it turns out that in Obama's last three years as president, more jobs were created, one and a half million more jobs than in the first three years of his presidency had the slowest recovery since the ninth economic recovery since 1929 was also the slowest recovery they took over something that was down here, all you had to do was turn on the lights and it would recover a lot, but they had the slowest economic recovery since 1929, let me tell you about the stock market, when The stock market goes up, that means jobs. it also means 401k if you join if you ever become president with your ideas you want to end my taxes my taxes I will tell you what you will lose half of the companies that have come here will leave and many companies that are already here will go to other places They will leave and you will have a depression like you have never seen.
Look, we inherited the worst recession, other than a depression, in the history of the United States. They asked me to get it back. We were able to have an economic recovery that created the jobs you're talking about. We deliver you a booming economy. He ruined it. It was not him? because what you did even before Covent Manufacturing went bankrupt, manufacturing went crazy, excuse me, number two, number three, they said it would take, no, you were number two, no, Chris, Chris, they said it would take A miracle to recover manufacturing, I brought back seven. a hundred thousand jobs they brought back nothing they gave up manufacturing we don't tolerate it fair I'm the guy who totally gave up on manufacturing okay, we brought back they asked me to bring back Chrysler and General Motors, we brought them back right here at Ohio State in Michigan, they blew it, they left, they screwed it up and they actually left, Ohio had the best year ever last year, Michigan had the best year ever, no company came automobiles.
I came from Germany from Japan, went to Michigan and went to Ohio, they are not happening and they did not come everywhere Mr. Vice President, so look what you have actually done, you have done very little, your trade agreements are the same way as he. talks about these big trade deals, you know, talks about the art of the deal that China has made, perfected the art of steel. We now have a larger deficit with China than before. We have the highest trade deficit. China with Mexico. China ate their lunch joe and it's no wonder your son comes in and takes out takes out billions of dollars take out billions of dollars to manage earn millions of dollars and also, while we're at it, why is it just out of curiosity ? the mayor of moscow wife gave his son three and a half million dollars what did he do to deserve it what did he do with the baristas if not none of that is true mr president president please totally discredited totally discredited and by the way well wait you didn't get three million and a half dollars joe mister vice president got it through the president that is not true mister president it is an open discussion please it is a good fact there is no one who has raised an issue let the vice president respond discredited 183,000 a month no experience in energy my son didn't do anything wrong at first I think so Mr.
President you don't want to let me answer because you know I have the truth your position has been totally disgusting whoever testified under oath so let me ask you this I'm listening to you people below you have three people and a half testified, he testified under oath in his administration, he said I did my job and I did it very well, very well. I'll give you the list of people who tried it. I'm sure they already fired most of them because they did a good job. Some people don't do well. Here it is with you. Wait a minute.
They have the last word. Well, it's hard to talk to this clown. Excuse me. This, hey, let me tell you that no, no, I am Mr. President. That's simply why he deserved three and a half million from Moscow. Look, here's the deal. We want to talk about families and ethics. I do not want to do that. I mean your family we could talk about all night your family is fine my family my family lost a fortune coming and helping us with the government and that's one direction Mr. President the only one of them this is not about me family or his family, it's about your family, the American people, he doesn't, that's not true, he doesn't want to talk about what you need, the American people, it's about you, that's what we're talking about, that's the answer to the question, no, Ukraine, no, me, sir, with a billion dollars, why?
Shouldn't it be different from the two of you? So here's the good point: we have six segments, we've finished that segment, we're going to move on to the next segment in that segment, each of you will have two uninterrupted moments in those two. Minutes interrupted, Mr. President, you can say whatever you want. I'm going to ask a question about race, but if you want to answer about something else, go ahead, but I think the country would be better served if we allowed both people to speak. less interruptions, I ask you, sir, to do well and he too well, frankly, he has been doing more interruptions, that is good, but he does it quite well, less than less than a lot, no less than you.
Please, let's continue with the topic of the race Vice President Biden, you say that President Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville three years ago, when he spoke of very good people on both sides, was what directly led him to launch this candidacy for The presidency. Oh, yeah, right, President Trump, you've often said that I think he's done more for African Americans than any president with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln. My question to you both is why should voters trust you and not your opponent to address the racial issues this country will face over the next four years? president biden, you go first it's about fairness and equality it's about decency it's about the constitution and we have never stopped trying to demand equity for all equality for all of america but we have never achieved it but we have never walked away from this as we have has done, it's true, the reason I got into the race is when those people close their eyes, remember what those people look like coming out of the fields with torches, their veins bulging, speeding, just spitting anti-Semitic bile and accompanied from In the Ku Klux Klan they killed a young woman and asked the president what he thought.
He said there were very good people on both sides. No president has ever said anything like that. Now he is the second, sir. The second point I would make is that when Floyd was killed, when Mr. Floyd was killed, there was a peaceful protest in front of the White House, what did he do? He came out of his bunker, he had the military use tear gas against him so that he could cross to a church and hold a Bible and then what happened after that, the bishop of that same church said it was a misfortune, the general who was with him said that all he ever wants to do is divide people, not unite people at all, this is a president who has used everything as a dog whistle to try to generate racist hate racist division this is a man who actually speaks to help African Americans one in every thousand African Americans has been murdered because of the coronavirus and if something is not done quickly by the end of the year one in every 500 will have been murdered one in every 500 African Americans this man this man is the savior of about african americans this man doesn't care at all this man has done practically nothing look the fact is you have to do it look at what he talks about you have to look at what he did and what he did has been disastrous for the african american community so, President Trump, you have two minutes, why should Americans trust you over your opponent to deal with racism? 1994 where you call them African American super predators the super predators and they have never forgotten it they have never forgotten it jefferson no sir it's their two minutes so you did that and they called you a super predator and I'm letting people out of jail now that you've treated the population community African American, you've treated the black community as badly as anyone in this country, you did 199 and that's why if you look at the polls, I'm doing better than any Republican. in a long time because they saw what you did, you called them super predators and you called them worse than that because you look back at your testimony over the years you called them much worse than that as far as the church is concerned.
As far as the generals are concerned, we just got the support of 200 thousand. 250 military leaders and generals. Full support for law enforcement. Almost all law enforcement groups in the United States. I have Florida. I have Texas. I have Ohio. I have all my apologies. Portland. The sheriff just came out today and said that he supports President Trump. I don't think you have any law enforcement. You can't even say the word law enforcement because if you say those words you're going to lose your entire radical left. followers and why don't you say those words? Joe, why don't you say the words law enforcement?
Because you know, if they called us to Portland, we would put out that fire in half an hour, but they won't because they're run by radical left-wing Democrats if you look at Chicago if you look anywhere you want to look Seattle they found out we were coming the next day and they raised their hand and we went back to seattle minneapolis we took it back joe because we believe in law and order but you don't the top 10 cities in almost the top 40 cities are run by democrats and in many cases by the radical left and they have you in their grip to the point that I don't want to say anything about law and order and I'll tell you what the people of this country want and demand law and order and you're afraid to even say it right, I want to get back to the career vice president question. biden after the grand jury in the brianna taylor case decided not to charge any police officers with homicide you said it raises the question quote whether justice could be applied equally in the united states do you believe there is a separate but unequal justice system? justice for black people in this country yes there is systemic injustice in this country in education and work and in law enforcement the way it is applied but look the vast majority of police officers are men and good, decent and honorable women, they risk their lives every day to take care of us, but there are some bad apples and when they occur, when they are found, they have to be solved, they have to be held accountable, they have to be held accountable, they have to be held accountable and what I'm going to do like The president of the United States is called on a whole group of people in the White House ruining everything from civil rights groups to police officers, police chiefs and we're going to solve this, we're going to resolve this so we can change. the way we have more transparency when these things happen these cops aren't happy to see what happened to george floyd these cops aren't happy to see what happened to brianna taylor most of them don't like it but we have to have a system where people are held accountable when and for how violence and response is never appropriate is never appropriate peaceful protest is violence is never appropriate right what is a peaceful protest when they run through the city and burn their stores and They kill people President Trump i' I would like to continue with the issue of race.
I promise we will address the topic of law and order sometime this month. His administration ordered federal agencies to end racial sensitivity training that addresses white privilege or critical race theory. Why did he do it? I decided to do that to end racial sensitivity training and do you believe there is systemic racism in this country? Sir, I ended it because it's racist. I finished it because a lot of people were complaining that they were being asked to do things that were absolutely crazy. It was a radical revolution that was taking place in our military, in our schools everywhere and you know it and so does everyone else and he would know what was wrong.
Full racial sensitivity training. If you were a certain person, you would have no status. in life it was kind of a change and if you look at the people, we were paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars to teach very bad ideas and, frankly, very sick ideas and they were really teaching people to hate our country and I didn't I'm going to do that, I'm not goingTo allow that to happen, we have to return to the fundamental values ​​of this country. They were teaching people that our country is a horrible place, it's a racist place and they were teaching people to hate our country. and I'm not going to let that happen vice president biden, no one does that, he's just the racist, you're just not, here's the deal, I know a lot more about this, the fact is there is a racial sensitivity and people have to being made aware of what other people feel what insults them what is degrading to them it is important for people to know that they do not want many people do not want to hurt other people's feelings but it is surprising it makes a huge difference it makes a huge difference in the way a child can grow up and have a sense of self worth it's a bit like this guy and his friends look down on so many people they look down on people like Irish Catholics like me and I grew up in Scranton look down on people who don't have money they despise people who have a different faith they despise people who are a different color in fact we are all Americans the only way we are going to unite this country is to unite everyone there is nothing we can't do if we do it together we can confront this and we can defeat racism president, I mean president Trump during the Obama Biden administration, there was tremendous division, there was hate, look at uh ferguson look you go to many places look at oakland look at what happened in oakland look at what what happened in baltimore look what happened frankly it was more violent than what i'm seeing now but the reason is that the democrats running these cities don't want to talk like you do about law and order violence you still haven't mentioned violence are you for it of law and order I am for the law that you follow you are for the Lord you asked a fair question where people are treated fairly and the fact of the matter is that violent crime decreased 17 15 in our administration it increased during your mandate decreased is much more, everything is fine, Mr.
President, Mr. President, every record, Mr. President, you will be very happy because we are not going to talk about the law in order because we had problems with the cities governed by Democrats; that is exactly my question. There has been a dramatic increase in homicides in the United States this summer in particular and the blame is often placed on democratic mayors and governors, but in fact there have been equivalents. spikes in Republican-led cities like Tulsa and Fort Worth, so the question is whether this really is a partisan issue. I think it's a party issue. You can give a couple of examples, but if you look at Chicago, what is happening in Chicago, where 53 people were? shot and eight died shot if you look at new york where it's going up like nobody's seen anything the numbers are going up one hundred and fifty two hundred percent uh representatives of crime are crazy about what's going on and he doesn't want to say law and order because he can't because he will lose his radical left supporters and once he does it will be over, but if he ever got to rule this country and they ruled it the way he wanted, we would have our suburbs.
By the way, our suburbs would disappear and you would see problems like he wouldn't have suburbs unless he took a wrong turn. Oh, I know celebrities, I grew up in the suburbs. This is not 1950. All these dog whistles and not racism. It doesn't work anymore, the suburbs are largely integrated, there are as many people today taking their kids to soccer practice or whites and blacks and Hispanics in the same car as there have been in the past, what is it that Is it really a threat to the suburbs? their safety is their inability to deal with greed they are dying in the suburbs their inability to deal with the environment they are being flooded they are being burned because their refusal to do anything is why the suburbs are interested I do want to though , talk about this law and order issue and in the joint recommendation that came out of the Biden task force Bernie Sanders talked about quote, reinventing policing, first of all, what does reinventing policing mean and do you support it, Let me if I can finish the question.
What does it mean to reimagine policing? Do you support the issue of black lives matter? Request a community check from the police. Look, what I support is giving police the opportunity to deal with the problems they face, and I'm not totally opposed to defunding police officers as such. In fact, local police are the only ones defunding their budget and calling for a $400 million cut in local authority assistance. They need more assistance when they show up for a 911 call to have someone with them like a psychologist or psychiatrist. To prevent them from having to use force and to be able to deter people, we have to have community policing like we had before, where the officers know the people in the communities.
That's when crime went down, not up, down. and then we have to be in this that's not what they're talking about Chris, that's not the place, he's talking about defunding the police, that's not true, he has no legal support, he has no law enforcement , that's not true, look who. Do you have a group that supports you? Name a group that came out and supported him. Go ahead, I think we have time, we don't have time to do anything. Well, I want to move on to another topic, which is the topic of protests. In many cities that have turned violent in Portland, Oregon, especially, we had over a hundred days in a row of protests that I think you would agree that you talk about peaceful protests, many of which turned into riots, Mr.
Vice President, you say people who commit crimes should be held accountable, the question I have is as a Democratic candidate and tonight you said you're the Democratic party right now. Have you ever called the Democratic mayor of Portland or the Democratic governor of Oregon and told him you have to stop? this brings in the national guard do whatever it takes but you would stop the days and months of violence in portland now i hold no public office i am a former vice president i have made it clear i have made it clear in my public statements that violence should be prosecuted, should be prosecuted and anyone who commits it, but you have never called the people, the leader, excuse me, sir, I had never called the leaders in Portland and Oregon to call us, bring in the national guard and end a hundred days of riots they can actually take care of that if he stays away look here oh really here oh really here is that young man in the middle of the street they shot him and for three days President Trump did nothing.
He had disrupted the US martial business, Go ahead sir and by the way you know his own former spokesperson said he knows riots, chaos and violence, helpless, because that's what it's all about, I don't know who said. that's what I do what I think, kellyanne conway I don't think she said, she said that, so here it's fine, but this is the point, the point is that's what he keeps trying to irritate everything, he doesn't want to calm the things. instead of going in and talking to people and saying, let's get everyone together, let's figure out how to deal with this, what it does, it just constantly pours gasoline on the fire and each and every loner is fine and to finish this button, I'm going to go up to this segment. to give you a minute to respond, sir, you have criticized repeatedly, I have to respond to your things, you know, if you want to change seats, we could do it very quickly, but I am saying that the national guard would be there.
There won't be a problem, that's fine, but they don't want to accept the national guard. You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically denouncing Antifa and other left-wing extremist groups, but are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and say they need to withdraw and not escalate violence in several of these cities, as we saw in Kenosha and as we have seen in Portland. Are they prepared to do it specifically? I would say that almost everything I see is leftist. wing not of the right what are you? what are you saying?
I'm willing to do anything I want to see peace sir, say it, do it, say it, do you want to call it?, what do you want to call it? give me a name give me a white supremacist yeah and write problems guys stand back and wait but I'll tell you what I'll tell you what someone has to do something about Antifa and the left because this is not a right problem this is a lefty director this is a leftist white supremacist antifa is an idea not an organization you have it not a militia that's what your FBI said tonight your FBI director said well then you know what your administration is not telling you the truth is they have a bad idea, can I tell you what you have no idea that Antifa is a danger gentlemen, now we are moving on to Trump and the black registries, he will overthrow you when he is president.
I'm going to ask a question when the president seeks a second term, it's usually a referendum on his record, but vice president biden likes to quote one of his father's sayings which is: don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative and In this case, sir, you are the alternative. Looking at both of your records, I'm going to ask each of you why voters should elect you as president instead of your opponent in this segment, President Trump, go for the first two minutes because there has never been an administration or a president. who has done more than me.
I have done it in a period of three and a half years and that despite the impeachment hoax and you saw what happened today with Hillary Clinton, where it was a big scam, but despite going through all these things that I had to fight on both flanks and behind me and above there has never been an administration that has done what I have done, the best before it came undercover, the largest economy in history, the lowest unemployment numbers, everything was fine , everything was going well and by the way, unity was going to happen, people were calling me for the first time in years, they were calling me and saying maybe it was time and then what happened, they hit us, but now we are rebuilding it again, a rebuilding of the military, including the space force and all the other things. fixing the va which was a disaster under his command 308,000 people died because they didn't have proper medical care he was a disaster and now we got a 91 approval rating in the va our vets we take care of our vets but we've rebuilt our military with the work we have done and I will tell you something that some people say is perhaps the most important for the end of the first term.
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y three big ones. judges of the supreme court magistrates that is a record like that of very few people and you know one of the reasons why I will have so many judges because President Obama and he left me 128 judges to fill when you leave office you don't leave any judges, that's like you just don't do that, they left 128 vacancies and if I was a member of their party because they have a little bit different philosophy, I would say if you left us 128 vacancies you can't be a good president.
He won't be a good vice president, but I want to thank him because he gives us almost a chance to surpass that number at the end of this term. 300 judges, it's a record, if we look at your records, why should voters elect you as president and not you? President Trump you have two uninterrupted minutes under this president we become weaker, sicker, poorer, more divided and more violent when I was vice president we inherited a recession, they asked me to fix it, I did, we left him a booming economy and he caused the recession with As for being weaker, the fact is that I have gone toe to toe with Putin and made it clear to him that we are not going to take any of his things.
He's Putin's puppy and he still refuses to tell Putin anything about the bounty on the heads of American soldiers, his son was injured, no, no, millions of dollars and by the way, Mr. Price, wait a minute, Mr. President. , your campaign agreed that both sides would get uninterrupted two minute responses, well your side agreed and why not Notice what your campaign agreed to as a ground rule? Okay, sir, he never keeps his words. No, no, I'm not at all. That was a rhetorical question. Can you keep going for 30 seconds? Yeah, it might be okay, move on, so thirdly.
If you are poor, the billionaires have become much richer to the tune of over three to four hundred billion dollars more since you agreed to the home, you have less, you are in more trouble than before in terms of being more violent when we were in office there was 15 percent less violence in the United States that today he is president of the United States is under his command and with respect to more divided the nation cannot remain divided we cannot be like that and speaking of my son of the way You talk about the military the same way you talk about them being losers and that they are and they're just stupid.
My son was in Iraq. He spent a year there. He got the bronze star. He earned the conspicuous service medal. He wasn't a loser. It was. apatriot and the people left behind were heroes and it bothers me that you speak as a hunter are you talking about I'm talking about my son beau biden are you talking I don't know I don't know beau I know that hunter hunter has hunter expelled he was expelled from the army he was dishonorably discharged that It's not true, it wasn't cocaine news and you didn't have a job until you became vice president.
What do you mean you made a fortune in Ukraine in China in Moscow? That's my son, like a lot of people, like a lot of people we know at home, he had a drug problem, he overcame it, he got over it, he fixed it, he worked on it and I'm proud of him, but why was it millions, but he? I'm not giving 10 million, that's totally President, they've already done it, they've already been totally discredited, we've both been through this, I think the American people would prefer to hear about more substantial issues, well, you know that as the moderator, sir.
I'm going to make a decision here, it's three and a half million dollars from the Moscow members. I think that report is totally. I was credited with Mitt Romney on that committee. He said it wasn't worth taxpayers' money. That reporter was written for political purposes. Reasons why he knows I would like to talk about climate change. So, is that okay with me? Wildfires in the West are raging now having burned millions of acres and displaced hundreds of thousands of people as state officials blame the fires on climate change, sir. President you said: I don't think science knows during your four years you have pulled the United States out of the Paris climate agreement you have rolled back a number of Obama's environmental records what do you believe about the science of climate change and what will you do? do in the next four years to deal with it I want crystal clear water and air I want beautiful clean air we now have the lowest level of carbon if you look at our numbers right now we are doing phenomenal but I haven't destroyed our businesses our businesses are It's not out of order if you look at the Paris agreement, it was a disaster from our point of view and people are actually very happy with what's happening because our companies are doing well when it comes to the fires, Forest management is needed in addition to everything else the forest floors are full of trees dead trees that are years old and are like tinder and leaves and everything else you throw a cigarette there the whole forest burns you have to have forest management what do you think?
What do you believe about the science of climate change, sir? I think we have to do everything we can to have pristine air, pristine water and do everything we can, that's good, you know we're planting a billion trees, the billion tree project and it's very exciting. that you believe that human polluting gases are greenhouse gases. Emissions contribute to global warming. I think a lot of things do, but I think to some extent yes. I think to some extent yes, but I also think we have to manage our forests better every year. I receive the call. California is burning.
California is burning. if that was cleaned up if it were like that if you had good forest management you wouldn't get those calls you know in Europe they live in their forest cities which they call forest cities they maintain their forests they manage their forests I was with the head of an important country, it's a forest city, he said sir, we have trees that are much bigger, they light up much easier than California, there shouldn't be that problem, I talked to the governor about it, I get along very well with the governor, but I said you know that at some point you can't every year have hundreds of thousands of acres of land burned to the ground that are burning for lack of lord, if you believe in the science of climate change, why have you pushed Obama back? clean energy plan that limited carbon emissions at power plants why has it been relaxed because it was sending energy prices through the roof?
Why have you relaxed fuel economy standards that will create more pollution from cars? Well, not really because what's happening is the car is much less expensive and it's a much safer car and you're talking about a small difference and then what would happen because of the cost of the car? You would have at least double and triple the number of cars purchased. We have the old slugs out there that are 10 12 years old if they did that the car would be safer it would be a lot cheaper but 30 500 they have just had no one would take many cars off the market because people could afford a car now like that and the way they Let's see how that turns out, but a lot of people agree with me, a lot of people the car has become very expensive because they have computers everywhere for a little extra gas and and and I It's okay with electric cars too, I think I'm totally in favor of electric cars.
I have given great incentives for electric cars, but what they have done in California is crazy. Vice President Biden, I would like you to respond to the president's climate change. for the record, but I also want to ask you about a concern: you proposed two trillion dollars in green jobs, you talk about new limits, not abolition, but new limits on fracking, ending the use of fossil fuels to generate electricity by 2035 and net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 the president says many of these things would ruin the economy and cost millions of jobs. You are absolutely wrong number one, number two, if in fact, during our administration, the recovery act, I could, was in charge, able to reduce the cost of renewable energy will be cheaper or as cheap as coal, gas and the oil.
Nobody is going to build another coal-fired plant in the United States. Nobody is going to build another oil-fired plant in the United States. They are going to switch to renewable energy. Number one. Number two. We will make sure that we can take the federal fleet and convert it to a fleet that runs on its electric vehicles. Making sure we can do that, we're going to put in 500,000 charging stations and all the roads. that we're going to build in the future, we're going to build an economy that will actually allow us to take 4 million buildings and make sure that they are air-conditioned in a way that they will actually emit significantly less gas and oil because the heat won't go out.
There are so many things we can do now to create thousands and thousands of jobs. We can get to net zero in terms of energy production by 2035, not just without costs. people jobs create jobs create millions of good paying jobs not 15 dollars an hour but prevailing wage by having a new infrastructure that is actually green and the first thing I will do is rejoin the Paris agreement, I will rejoin the Paris agreement because with us out of this, look what's happening, everything is falling apart and talking about someone who has no relation to Brazil's foreign policy, Brazil's rainforest is being torn down, it's being torn down, more carbon is being absorbed into that rainforest and every bit of carbon that is admitted to the United States, instead of doing something about it, I would get together and make sure that we had to come the countries of the world with 20 billion dollars, say here's 20 billion of dollars, stop cutting down the forest and if you don't do it.
Then you will have significant economic consequences. What about the argument that President Trump basically says you have to balance environmental interests and economic interests and he drew the line right? He hadn't drawn a line. He still, for example, makes sure that we, he, we want to make sure that methane is not a problem, we can, now we can emit more methane without it being a problem, methane, this is a guy who says you don't need to have mileage standards for cars that exist now, this is the guy that says the fact that it's all true and here's the conversation about the green new deal and it's not 2 billion or 20 billion like you said, it's 100 trillion of dollars I'm talking about, they want to tear down buildings and rebuild the building. the most redundant where the planes are out of service where two car systems are out where they also want to take out the cows you know that's not true either true this is 100 billion which is more money than our country could earn in a hundred years if not is the case, okay, let me, let me, let me wait a minute, sir.
In fact, I have studied his plan and it includes the improvement of four million buildings, the air conditioning of two million homes in four years, the construction of one and a half million energy efficient homes so that The question is: what the president says . I think some people who support the president would say it looks like it's going to cost a lot of money and hurt the economy. What he's going to do is going to create thousands and millions of jobs, well-paying jobs. let him finish sir, you don't know how to make that 100 billion, the fact is it will create millions of good paying jobs and these tax incentives for people to adapt to the climate, which he wants to get rid of, will make the economy much safer look how much we are paying now to deal with hurricanes with the deal by the way he has an answer for hurricanes he said maybe we should drop a nuke on them I may have never said he actually did. ready, uh, and here's the deal you make, we'll be in a position where we can create good, hard jobs making sure the environment is clean and we're all in better shape, we spend billions of dollars now, billions of dollars in flooding hurricanes rising sea levels we are in real trouble look what is happening right in the midwest with these storms coming in and devastating entire sections and counties in Iowa they didn't happen before they are due to global warming we represent the 15 percent of the world's problem, in fact, we, but the rest of the world, we have to get them to come, that's why we have to go back to the Paris agreement, okay, gentlemen, wait a minute, Chris, why don't we did?
For 47 years you were vice president, why didn't you get the world? china throws real dirt in the air, russia, india, everyone does it, we're supposed to be good and by the way, he made a couple of statements, the green one. the new deal is a hundred billion dollars that's not my plan that's free well you want to rebuild every building my plan I want to rebuild everything I knew something about the army he said I said something about the army he and his friends did it upstairs and then they continued with that. I never said that.
Okay, that's done in the segment. He called the volunteer vice president. He said stupid. Please go ahead. The vice president answered his final question. The final question is: I don't remember which one. It's all rambling, I'm having a bit of a problem too, but on the economy and on this question of how much it's going to cost the economy, I'm talking about the green new deal and the idea of ​​what effects their environmental changes will have on the green new deal. The deal will pay for itself as we move forward. We are not going to build plants that are actually very polluting, but you will build a new agreement.
Sorry. Do you support? No. I do not support the green new deal. No, well, that's a big statement, I support just the radical leftists, I support the Biden plan that I put forward, okay, the Biden plan, which is different from what he calls the radical green new deal. Alright, gentlemen, final segment, electoral integrity like us. We will meet tonight. Millions of Americans are receiving mail-in ballots or voting early. How sure should we be that it will be a fair election and what are you willing to do over the next five weeks or more, because it won't just be an election? day but also counting some ballots, mail-in ballots after Election Day, what are you willing to do to assure the American people that the next president will be the rightful winner of this election in this final segment, Mr.
Vice President, first go prepared to let people vote they should go to iwillvote.com decide how they are going to vote, when they are going to vote and what means they are going to vote their own director of national security and also the director of the FBI says that there is no evidence that mail and ballots are a source of manipulation and cheating. They said the fact is that there will be millions of people out of greed who will vote by mail-in ballots like he does by voting. the way you sit behind the desk determined and send your ballot to Florida number one number two we're going to make sure that those people who want to vote in person can vote because there are enough poll watchers there to make sure they can social distance the polls are open on time and their polls stay open until the votes are counted and it's about trying to dissuade people from voting because it's trying to trick people into thinking it's not going to be legitimate, show up and vote, it you will do. determine the outcome of this election vote vote vote if you can vote early in your state voteearly if you can vote in person vote in person vote in whatever way is best for you because it cannot stop you from being able to determine the outcome of this election and in terms of whether or not the votes are counted and they are all counted that will be accepted if I win that will be accepted if I lose it will be accepted but for the In fact, if he says he's not sure what he's going to accept, well, let me tell you something, it doesn't matter because if we get the votes, it's all over, he'll leave, he can't remain in power, he won.
It won't happen, it won't happen, so vote, just make sure you understand that it is in your control to determine what this country will be like in the next four years. Its going to change? You will have four more years of these lies, Mr. President. two minutes, so when I heard Joe talk about a transition, there hasn't been a transition since I won that election and if you look at corrupt Hillary Clinton, if you look at all the different people, there was no transition because they came after me. trying to stage a coup they came after me spying on my campaign they started from the day I won and even before I won from the day I walked down the escalator with our first lady they were a disaster they were disgraced to our country and we We have caught them, we've got them all, we've got it all on tape, we've got them all and by the way, you gave the idea for the Logan act against General Flynn, you better take a look at it because we got you.
In a sense, and President Obama was sitting in the office, he knew it too, so don't talk to me about a free transition when it comes to ballots, it's a disaster, a requested ballot, okay, request, it's okay, you're still listening. you're asking, they send it back, you send it back, I did that, if you have an unsolicited vote, they're sending millions of ballots all over the country, there's fraud, they found it in creeks, they found some with Trump's name, they just happened to have the name of Trump. Just the other day in a trash can they sent them everywhere they sent two in a Democratic area they sent a thousand ballots everyone received two ballots this is going to be fraud like you've never seen the other What's good is that on November 3rd you're looking and You see who won the elections and I think we will do well because people are very happy with the work we have done, but you know what we won't know.
I don't know for months because these ballots are going to end. Take a look at what happened in Manhattan. Take a look at what happened in New Jersey. Take a look at what happened in Virginia and elsewhere. They're not losing two percent, one percent. which by the way is too much you can win or lose an election with that you will hear 30 and 40 percent it is a fraud and it is a shame and you can imagine where they say that you have to have your ballot before November 10 November 10 that means that It's seven days after the election should theoretically have been announced, okay, we've made your states with that gentleman are all run definitely that says two minutes, all run by Democrats irregularities of President Trump you can continue, it has been collect for months and mail-in voting is going to be a disaster, you say it is rigged and will lead to fraud, but in 2018, in the last midterm elections, 31 million people voted by mail, which represented a quarter more than a quarter of all voters that year cast their votes by mail now that millions of mail votes have been sent out, what are you going to do about it? you are counting on the supreme court, including judge barrett, to resolve any dispute.
I think I'm counting on them to review the ballots. I definitely don't think so. I hope we don't need them in terms of the elections themselves, except for the ballots I think so because what is happening is incredible I just heard that I read today where at least one percent of the ballots for 2016 were invalidated they they carry we don't like them we don't like them we throw them away there are millions of ballots going what you do is go and vote you make a requested ballot okay you're going to go I'm asking you about the fact that millions of people go and vote you go and vote for millions of people you do it chris a requested ballot where you send it they send it back and you send it they have a mailman with many, did you see what is happening?
Check out the West Virginia mailman selling the ballots that are being sold. they are throwing them into the rivers this is a horrible thing for our country there is no this is not there is no there is no this is not going to end well okay, this is not going to be vice president of five states for which I have received mail-in ballots for the last decade or more five, including two red states and you don't have to request the ballot that is sent to you, it is sent to your home, what we are saying is they are saying it has to be postmarked by the time of Election Day, If it does not reach the seventh, eighth, ninth, it should still be counted.
He's just afraid to count the votes because you're wrong. I want to continue with you about this vice president because he is very wrong when he makes statements. In fact, the biggest problem for me, Vice President Biden, over the years with mail-in voting has not been fraud, but rather that sometimes considerable numbers of ballots, hundreds of thousands, are discarded because they have not been completed correctly or because there is some other problem. irregularity or should it be the deadline, so the question I have is: are you concerned about the supreme court with Judge Barrett resolving any dispute?
I'm worried about any court resolving this because this is the deal when you file when you get a ballot and you fill it out you're supposed to have an affidavit if you didn't know that someone says it's me you should be able to if you can actually verify that you when before the ballot is discarded, that's enough to be able to count the ballot because someone made a mistake and didn't put the right point for who they voted for testify say who they voted for say that you're the one who's totally legit okay you know it's not it can be done you know it can Okay, so now the postal services, gentlemen in the fight, the last question in eight states, we can continue talking, it is in eight states, election workers are currently prohibited by law, eight States are even starting to process the ballots, even taking them out of the envelopes and flattening them until Election Day, that means that it's likely that because there will be a huge increase in voting by mail, we won't know on election night who it is. the winner, it could be days, it could be weeks, until we know. who is the new president, so first for you sir, finally for the vice president, I hope neither of you interrupt the other.
Will you urge your followers to remain calm during this prolonged period so as not to get involved in any civil unrest? Pledge tonight that you will not declare victory until the election has been independently certified. President Trump. Thank you very much to my followers for going to the polls and watching very carefully because that is what has to happen. I urge you to do it as you know today. It was a big problem in Philadelphia, they came in to watch, they called them election observers, a very safe, very nice thing, they kicked them out, they weren't allowed to watch, you know why, because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things and I urge you . marry my people I hope it's a fair election if it's a fair election I'm 100 for it but if I see tens of thousands of manipulated ballots I can't accept that and I'll tell them what that is From common sense, does that mean you're telling them to other people that you have a fraudulent election?
You're sending out 80 million ballots. These people are not equipped to handle it. Number one. Number two. They cheat. They cheat. Hey, they found ballots in. a trash can three days ago and they all had the name of military ballots they were military they all had Trump's name backwards I think it's good Vice President Biden Final question for you Will you urge your supporters to stay calm while voting? is counted and will you commit to not declaring victory until the election is independently certified? Yeah, and here's the deal: we count the ballots, as you pointed out, some of these ballots in some states can't even be opened until election day and if there are thousands of ballots they're going to take time to do that and by the way , our military has been voting by ballot to make sense at the end of the civil war in effect and that is and that is what happened that is going to happen, why wasn't it like that? why is it for? they are somehow not fraudulent it is the same process it is honest no one has established at all that there is fraud related to male imbalance that is somehow a fraudulent process it has already been established check out caroline maloney's race you had a chance look at caroline they have I have no idea why President Biden, go ahead, he has no idea what he's talking about.
Here's the deal. The fact is that I will accept it and so will he. You know why, because once the winner is declared, after all, all the ballots are counted. are counted, that will be the end, that will be the end and if it's me, actually that's fine, if it's not me, I will support the outcome and I will be president, not just for the Democrats. to be president for Democrats and Republicans and this guy I want to see honestly gentlemen you say this is the end this is the end of this debate we are going to leave this vote count there uh it will continue like in more debates like We continue, uh, President Trump, vice president Biden, it's been an interesting hour and a half.
I want to thank you both for participating in the first of the three debates in which you agreed to participate. We would like to thank Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Clinic. To host this event, the next debate sponsored by the Presidential Debates Commission will be a week starting tomorrow, October 7, at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City. The two vice

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