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The Colt LE6920 vs CR6920 - The Evolution of the LE6920 and Differences in the CR6920

Jun 04, 2021
welcome to gun solutions today we are looking at the

colt

le 6920 and specifically the le-6920 police carbine versus the current

cr6920

so first we want to go over the history of the le-6920 and where the rifle you see here came from, the carbine Colt law enforcement is the standard that every variation of the AR-15 has been compared to, especially commercially this has been considered the best of the line or to go over some of the reasons so we'll go back to 1995 with the adoption of the m4 carbine uh we have a current we have a cult tdp goes into production now back in 1995 uh that was right after the open man assault 1994 so the

colt

s had to create a whole new line of law enforcement uh carbines that were semi -automatic only before that, well you had a cold spoiler series from which they voluntarily removed a lot of these features, but before uh, the colt spoiler series, all semi-automatic only, whether police or commercial, they were all the same , well, colt.
the colt le6920 vs cr6920   the evolution of the le6920 and differences in the cr6920
After the assault weapons ban began in 1994, I had to create a second line of law enforcement that would include all semi-medical rifles that had objectionable criteria, so obviously the M4 became the standard. 1998 comes Colt presents the LE-6920. LE-6920 for all intents and purposes is an exact replica of the US Government M4 Carbine with the exception of a longer barrel instead of 14.5 (which you are looking at is 16 inches) and the control group of fire that you are now looking at is semi-automatic only compared to the semi-burst safe or the semi-automatic safe depending on what version of the m4 it is, so everything else is exactly the same, so we are talking about cult production.
the colt le6920 vs cr6920   the evolution of the le6920 and differences in the cr6920

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the colt le6920 vs cr6920 the evolution of the le6920 and differences in the cr6920...

Colt has one production line, there are not multiple production lines, there is not one for law enforcement. one for military one for commercial, they all come from the same production line for example, which made this rifle so special at the time, especially from 1995 to the end of the global war on terrorism around 2001 onwards, when you had dough. The production of the M4 Colt carbines would make a series of, say, LD 6920. What would happen is that the manufacturing manager would go down there and remove from the assembly all the fire control parts that were automatic or would burst and replace them with the ones from the semi medical only the barrels would be replaced with 16 inch barrels instead of 14.5 all other components used were exactly the same as the US government there was no this is commercial this is law enforcement this is the government By getting the exact same components, then you benefited because you got all the US government requirements, all the metallurgy, all the quality control, all the quality control, everything needed to make the US government carbine.
the colt le6920 vs cr6920   the evolution of the le6920 and differences in the cr6920
US and that gave you the patrol carbine and the other 69 20. Well, obviously. During the time of assault weapons, these are restricted to law enforcement sales only and then once Assault Man disappeared in 2004, Colt didn't go and start producing them in their commercial line, they still remain in the law enforcement line, meaning all law enforcement guardians. and all law enforcement weapons would go to law enforcement dealers, not commercial, that didn't stop law enforcement dealers from selling them to dealers and they would go commercial, so basically law enforcement and the cult got astronomical sales uh until the introduction of the cr series that you see here which included the 69 20 69 40 and so on so it became the most in demand so I'll go over some of the milestones of this now again we're looking at 1998 when production came in now 2009 would come in 2009 would be a very important year for some of the production changes on this rifle.
the colt le6920 vs cr6920   the evolution of the le6920 and differences in the cr6920
First, Colt gained ATF clearance to eliminate the semi-automatic bulk carrier groups in favor of using the standard full-automatic carrier. group, it wouldn't break any laws, it didn't turn it into a machine gun, so it was in 2009 where the change was made, no more semi-automatic bolt carriers. The second change that was involved was in 2009 when they got rid of the 170 diameter hammer and trigger pins inside with the arrival of the Colt Sporter series just before the assault man, Colt, voluntarily made some modifications to the gun he They would prevent me from accepting full auto parts and that ranged from the standard 155 diameter hammer trigger pins to 170 170.
Since the selective fire components couldn't be fitted, they eventually went back to the industry standard. The following was one that I personally participated in because it was my request. I put it in a couple of engineering change orders. The first was put it on the right side of the safety and fire the rifle because everyone else except Colt had a safety and shoot on the right side of the receiver and to make everything go well, the second was to put the mark on the safety that was showed from On the right side where they were on safe or semi-safe in a cult of infinite wisdom, the engineers decided that it was not necessary because you could remove the safety, turn it around, so it was not necessary, unfortunately, if the latter version of the

cr6920

that I've seen being made in 2021.
They finally changed it, so those were some of the biggest fundamental changes in 2016. It was another big change. This was a change where Colt and all US government contractors moved from their factory and Colts codes. case a c to the cage trainer, which in the case of Colt is 13629, so where you would normally see the c on the rifles that we are going to go over before detailing the rifle, you will now see the cage code of 13 629. Now, looking the models that were introduced now again, the models were all cult law enforcement lines, so you had the le 6920, which is what you see here, with a 16 uh, 16 inch barrel, then you had the le 6920 h with heavy barrel air bar and that one had. the m4 socom profile barrel now, the first ones were purchased specifically by a specialized weapons store that was ken elmore, so the first print run of that concealed law enforcement card, which was the le-6921 h bar, was to ken elmore much later, as in the Probably in the last five years you saw that come back and the socom of course went with a modified 14.5 inch barrel with a longer suppressor, that longer compensator that was set on its place, then you have the le-6921, the le-6921 was an sbr. it was a 14.5 inch m4 gun so now you had all the us government parts with the exception of the fire control group so that was it then you have the le-6921 h rod which was actually the socom cannon, the 14.5 inch silicon heavy cannon.
Gun, everything else was the same as the US government standard again, just for a change, it would be the le-6922 fire control group, this was relatively rare, it was a 16.1 inch gun or a gun 16 inches with a one and nine inch twist and it wasn't chrome. basically that was the same barrel you had on the ar-15a3 tactical but it had the 11.5 inch m4 le-6933 commando profile and that was also an sbr now if you look at the other side of the receiver on the colt sbrs you would see two cartridges rifle that said law enforcement on them.
I will show a picture of what those look like so the sbrs would know if they were richer sbrs or not at the factory it was a change in the markings on the left. right side, so let's go over the specific rifle, now this rifle, I think Brandon is in the gun room, interestingly in my collection I didn't have any specific Le 6920, I had a lot of things modified, I had things that were different a lot of 6940, I didn't have any specific le 6920, so I think Brandon for this one, our cr 6921, our good friend Alex, I want to thank him for making that possible.
Now there were three different versions of this after it arrived when It turned out you had the initial version, a law enforcement carbine on the left side, a law enforcement car on the right side, it would have the government restraint markings law enforcement and then after Colt lost the sole-source government contract that it was, which was in January. first 2011. Colt's car track was from 1995 or 96 I think until 2011, which is now when you start to see the demise of Colt with the loss of government contracts with fn, but right after that change in 2011 They started redoing the commercial line, so now instead of putting in the law enforcement brands, we were going to go with the Sporter M4.
Well, the Sporter M4 didn't last long. People didn't like it. In fact, it was a wholesale amchar. at the time they were sending the drawings to that dealer who was a commercial law enforcement dealer at the time they still had commercial dealers and they showed them this new brand that said colt and it's the m4 carbine that you were now using the real m4 carbine so i saw the drawing that amtar had and colt went to the m4 carbine which everyone loved. At that time rifles were starting to change a little bit because of the loss of the government contract, a lot of the parts that were being made in-house, they started, they started to slowly outsource some of those parts unless they had government contracts.
Now coal still landed him a few government contracts here and there, but those contracts wouldn't be for the US government, they would be for foreign militaries. sales or foreign military aid, the weapons that were actually used by the military were the fn rifles and then we have the displeasure that a couple of years ago they removed the m4 and only had the carbine, which is what we are going to see with the cr6920 now no I have had no one who could explain to me why that had happened. I even asked a couple of my friends at Colt.
They had no idea why they got rid of m4. It doesn't make any sense that people would want m4. They changed it. So unfortunately I wish I had an answer for you why they did that, but I have no idea that it's not those decisions the cult makes that you just don't understand. Now let's go over the le-6920 and talk about what. exactly, now it started at the back of the US government stock, this was the stock that was used in the original when they had the polymer one that was basically the same shape and configuration as the original 15 car that actually It was not seen on the LE-6920.
The US government issues a four-position receiver extension. You have your new m4 receiver extension knot, which is known as a castellated nut because instead of having a wrench, it had four, four, four slots to use a new wrench, which is much better. easier to use, if you had this particular one, it has the detachable carry handle, the initial le-6920 police carbines came with this carry handle, this would also follow the trend of the US government, the US government The US, basically, as soon as they got the m4s, They were taking these carry handles off, throwing them away and putting backup sights on.
They found out that what is mainly happening with the

le6920

s as well, they would eventually get rid of the carry handle and go to the Matec backup site and of course with the cr6920. We would end up using the magpul uh mbus, the polymer site receiver, the government standard m4 upper receiver, where you would have the m4 in the front and four in the front, indicates feed ramps indicating that the receiver was designed for an upper receiver flat. which would go along with your f mark front sight base which we'll get to in a minute so you had your colt forgings where you had the c and you also had the forging code on the side that now faces down the receiver from flow I had. your standard a2 grip you had your standard push pin you know front and rear takedown pins now by the time this came out they got rid of the original uh 601 type and they also got rid of the screw and the collets so that you had standard pin buffer h buffer with the m4 uh carbine, the gold color or the copper color spring, which is a little bit of extra power in the barrel, you would have a standard US government profile barrel that measured 16 inches instead of 14 and a half it would have 4140 chrome vanadium, it would have chrome plating, it would have magnetic particles and proof testing, proof testing means it is fired with a 70,000 psi cartridge, which is significantly higher than the 55 52,000 psi of the standard brands of 5.56, uh, we're.
We'll go over the markings in general, but you would have where you would have the chrome marking, you would have a date code on the front and then you would have on the front the cmp five five six one slash seven nato, which we're going to go over a little bit also the look base front, you had the US government front sight base fmark basically means it's slightly higher so you can get proper alignment with the flat upper receiver when you have a backup side there and also You have it there, you also have your side swivel, this allows you to attach the gray m203 launcher and it will not interfere.
Now you can also remove it and turn it facingthe other side, as you already know. The gray launcher comes from the factory. They come with them on the left side. You would also have the standard M4 carbine double heat shield handguards and that will become interesting when we get into it so this rifle is basically in this configuration served probably until 20 2010 2012 in that area when things really started to change in Colt, so now let's take a look at the new cr6920. The cr6920 is quite a different rifle. What you see here is manufactured or assembled with many subcontracted parts now we have to talk about cult subcontracted parts and what happened with that now the change of the rifle you can't necessarily blame Colt because the situation changed with a change with the loss of the sole source contract, the quote was no longer obligated to manufacture everything to the same standard, if they weren't manufacturing for the US government, there were many things they wouldn't have to do, which cost them a lot. money, for example, metrology, checking every part manufactured to make sure it is a suitable material, proper heat treatment, all suitable for US government contracts, for example, they would have to check the barrel to make sure it was the material provided. it was exactly the same, they would have to check the aluminum to make sure the forgings were 7075 t6 compliant, make sure the gas tubes were compliant with the printing, every part that came from a subcontractor had to be checked and all of them had to be checked. the materials and then, of course, after that, the government ran tests that would be interchangeability, durability, six thousand strength tests and then you would have six rifles that you would separate from the same batch, throw them in a container and then you would make a rifle out of some of taking them from parts of each container to build rifles, uh, to verify interchangeability, etc., and also the manufacturing of the parts in-house, the reason why coal would manufacture the main parts in-house, which would include the barrel, the base of the front sight, the top of the bolt carrier. receiver the reason they would do this because those are the critical parts to make sure they fit properly which ensures their reliability and from my ex, from my experience, I don't think there is any company in the world that was able to make the number of rifles that Colt made to the degree of quality uh in the gun industry uh colt was very talented to be able to mass produce with such a high quality uh that it really was second to none so there were a lot of changes with the cr6920 because with the loss of those contracts they didn't have to do that and as their financial situation got worse they started outsourcing more and more parts so when you look at this rifle compared to the original rifle you are going to see quite a different rifle looking at the left side here on the top you will see above here we have the original Colt Law police carving

le6920

so you can see we have a marking that cites police 6920 we have a serial number that indicates it is law enforcement you go back to the back obviously , which is still the defense of the colts.
Now there was a shift from colt making and colt fendering and then it went back to colt making which is what we see now, so now we're taking a look at the hammer trigger pins, the original had been transferred from the Colt Sporter series agreement, only the 170 diameter hammer and trigger pins, ensuring that none of the selected fire-fighting components could be installed, and this had all changed in 2009. to the Colt Sporter series 155 diameter and the trigger pins now also look at this, the selector that we have here, this is the new selector, the selector is much longer on the side here and when you take this selector out, you can change it to the other side which was also around 2009 where this came from so you could change your safeties to the other side now you will also notice that they are roll stamped if we look forward this is the current production Colt carbine this is all laser you also have a laser barcode here now, the Laser technology obviously doesn't look good like the roast brand does, but we can't blame carbon for that because that's how all the manufacturers do things now, they're all going to laser engraving and they're all adding these barcodes here yeah look at the original rifle, the original rifle would go through production, it wasn't serialized until it was machined and could accept a fire control group, that's when the shield was attached, that's when it started being tracked, it wasn't tracked before that, here the forging is laser engraved and traced from its forging to production to the end, so it is more of a security measure to subtract some value instead of Just until they were made, we look at the stocks, the stocks are practically the same.
Now the original mold that was used on the le6920 was a little bit different and we can see that you would probably flip them if you notice that on the cr6920 You will see a circle here this is basically a trading action where you would have a mold so you could leave drop basically like a medallion and it would have the maker's marks on it, so it could be bushmaster, which could be anything you could put on it. there to say what it is, this is a US government action that we have here now we look at the left side of the original cult le-6920 restricted for law enforcement government use and you can see why we don't have that in the cr6920 there is also no safe and fire here, we note that on the current production product we do have safe and fire, this again was done in 2009.
They were still marked with law enforcement carving when they had that there. I would just follow it to the end, let's notice there's no tick, this one has a tick, this is the first rifle I've seen that has the tick on the safety, uh, before because the cult had really rejected me for my engineering. change the order to do it, so this is completely new. I have not seen it yet. This could also be an indication of a part that was purchased from outside. I don't think so because of the length of the safety here so now when we look at the current roll marks we're going to look at the initial one we had the police carbine then we have the sbr police carbine uh now we're going to go to the sporter m4 that no one liked then We're going to the Colt M4 that everyone liked and now we're going mainstream where we have the carbine that people don't like.
The next thing I want to talk about is the fire control group. Now Colt has a single shot control group because what you See, here's the notch that was cut here now, this goes back to the original colt sporters and the ar-15 supporters. You know, the original rifles where you had the notch that was used with the firing pin open to prevent the strike. fire uh because in case the disconnector failed or in case someone tried to make it fully automatic carbon was pretty much the only company that did this when Colt went with the 170 diameter hammer and trigger pin they chose this. was there and you also had more flat here because it had to work with the autosphere block when there was an autosphere block back there that we've seen on some of the more current rifles where you have the standard We see a commercial use which is basically an m16 type hammer or fully automatic with the hook cut off, so we have seen rifles where Colt has been using other people's components as well as outsourced ones.
When you see some like this, this speed now is definitely cold. On a lot of the carbon rifles that we've seen, we've seen a lot of matching parts or to get into that a little bit more when we start looking at these upper receivers, but for the most part the main changes to the lower receivers are the markings as well. like laser engraving versus roll stamps, now we're going to look at the upper receivers again, we have the le6920 and we have the cr6920. The first thing we are going to see is the way the barrels are marked. when we look at the top, we will see the original, we will see the standard cm p 1 7 nato.
Now, one thing I want you to pay attention to is that the main mp particle improves testing throughout the history of foals, even. in 1911, their magic particle and test mark was mp with a character m with a p uh on the right side of the m if we look at the current production ones, we are looking at two completely separate characters m and p, we also look at the c, which is the Colts factory code, now we are looking at 13 629 13 629. This was around 2016 where you saw that change, so this is the really interesting part of why Colt would have changed their mp after more than 50 or 60 years and you discovered that.
This barrel assembly that we're going to have here is not a cold barrel, it's an outsourced barrel. The next thing we will look at is the front sight base. You will see an image, but I don't know if. You may or may not see it here, but you will see that there is an f marked here now. What this f means is flat top. This is a front sight base that was designed to work with the flat top. receiver so when you put the backup iron sights on there they would line up correctly you wouldn't have to adjust the site up too much now that the Colt factory had forgings they were shipping out you will see counterfeit codes on the right side and on the left side, now you will be greeted as a forge as far as the marked f is concerned, all it meant is that they took a little less off the top to make the site higher and then they marked themselves with f, so It was always like this. the same front sight base now we take a look at the current production the current production is not marked at all now this has been interesting because a lot of the rifles that we have seen come out, some are marked If some are not without having the gauges to see if this is really the F brand front sight base or not, we don't know now.
Generally what happens is that if you don't have an Fmar front sight base, you just use one that's a little taller. front post and that solves your problem, but the reason we bought Colt is because we wanted the exact same US government spec rifle and this is one of those things that doesn't fit, it would definitely have to be. a front sight, but a base that could not be accepted by the US government in the form it currently is, of course we have the drilling and the anchoring, the next thing we want to see is the sling bubble now with the US government m4, you see, we have a side mount swivel, this is all the us government spec, well what we have here on the cr6920s is not this is the standard slang swivel, This is different, now let's take a look at the handguards.
The two we see here are handguards with double heat shields. The one we see here is the cr6920 that we have here. He is a police chaperone. We will see that there is a difference. You'll see there's an epoxy here. Well that epoxy is to make sure these never come loose, it's a factory spec, we don't see that on the cr-6920 curtain, so we have a difference in the handguards again, we're looking at the details, we're looking at why someone will want to buy them. a cult over anyone else's is because it had all these US government specs so we have an immediate difference between the two, the m4 should have the epoxy which the cr6920 doesn't.
Now we take a look at the barrels. the US government cannon, the police carbine that we have here, which I thought you'll be able to see, but we'll have a photo. You have the chrome mark. This is a test mark that says the barrel has been chrome plated and then. we have on the front here we have a date code all government weapons will also have a date code there cr 6920 we do not have chrome marking we do not have a date code but we do have an r stamped here our is the main is an indication that this is a barrel subcontracted to roscoe this is not a barrel it is made by colt this is a barrel subcontracted now i personally have seen two i have seen a w there which would be wilson and i have seen r which is roscoe there could be others not sure now there are rumors that these guys will raid the colts, but from the information I'm getting right now, that colt doesn't have a barrel line, really everything they do is outsourced, so again you're missing all the brands that made this thing. special.
Now we look at the upper receiver. Looking at the front, here you will see a marking that says m4, indicating that this is an m4 carbine. upper receiver which has cutouts for extended feed ramps, this would only be used on the m4 carbine which would use the m4 feed ramps as well as the front sight base, this is higher if you had an m16a4, you would not have the m4 markings there and you wouldn't have the feed ramps because they are not used on the m4 so you would have a separate flat upper receiver for the 20 inch barrel but for the m4 carbine you will have feed ramps and you will have the m4 marking there for the post front sight look at the cr6920 we don't have an m4 here we have extended feed ramps but this is not an upper receiver that canbe used for a government contract because the government contract requires m4 on there so the government can so the military with spare parts can identify the upper receiver of a rifle from a carbine upper receiver so that's different now that we look at the codes of counterfeit when we look at the le-6920 we will see a c there now that c could There would be a couple different ways it could be part of the forging meaning it would sit outwards like a c or you would see an engraved c indicating that it is a cult forge or a cold upper receiver if that was fn you would see an f here is required then you would have your fortune code and there are any number of forging cones that can be used because all manufacturers use the same forging companies.
Look at the current one, 60r6920, there is no factory code there currently. in which you will see the colts cage code 13 629, uh also, since the c is gone, you will see a 13 629, which some receivers you will see that will have that this particular one does not work well, this really goes to show that there is a big inconsistency in the parts used in current rifles because not all of them are cold, it is not like the le-6920 uh police carbine that used all the US government parts, it was the same, it may have different counterfeit codes because they come from different places, but you will always have a c there that identifies it as a cult suitable for the American government, so that's the difference that you will see as well and of course the backup sites, I mean, this is a commercial magpul and bus and you would have the original 6920 would have had the carrying handle and then it will go to the matec backup site.
Now let's take a look at the bolt carrier groups. Bolt carriers are very specific in the way they should be. marked for the US government, they have to be marked on the left side with the manufacturer's code, which would be c, you know, f, it would be fn, so you would have, uh, you know, j or a, or anyone else who was the government contractor who did In current production, the cr6920 has a c in there, but this is not a c you would normally see. The Colts would be roll stamped or have a punch or dot matrix.
It seems like they aren't even. Full C's, they look like they were hand placed, uh listen, they're not concentric, they look pretty weird, so I'd have a hard time believing this is a lump that was made at Colt. A micro is probably best for someone else. So now when we take them apart you will also find cult rifles even with their military or law enforcement commercials you will find Dimac rifles that will have the demtec d on the side that is also correct because use them as subcontracted parts and they are all made for tdp probably even stronger than colts now the bolts we get are even more interesting the one on my left you will see there is a white dot the white dot you see indicates this is suitable for the US government use it if not had the point, it couldn't be now, these would be found in everything law enforcement, commercial and military, and they would all be marked the same.
You won't see it here, but you probably will. Look at it in a picture it says magnetic particle mpc and test c test it is cold current production cr6920 no markings at all no mp test marks there is nothing so obviously this is not a US government bolt no it's probably made by colt perry because colt I want to put the brands on it, so this is probably again micro better or one of the subcontractors. mpc is very very important, there are a couple different ways this is marked and on rare occasions Colt has had bolts that didn't match.
US government specifications for some small reason that would have nothing to do with its function, but something minor and you would see just a big c there. c would be for commercial use and they would sell them in their commercial law enforcement weapons, there wouldn't be anything wrong with them as far as their function, it's just that there was something very, very small, so there was no reason not to could be used, but that was very, very rare, 99 of the time, the bolt carriers that were produced and placed in the meeting area sect had no idea what weapons they were going to use they could use anything they had a big pile of they there on Monday they were making m4 on Tuesday they were making only 6920 they were pulling them out of there exactly The same stack, so again this specifically shows that we have subcontractor parts versus Colt.
Now I want to take a look at the extractors because extractors also make a difference. Now you won't be able to see this, but in the US government extractor, you will see a c here which also indicates colt, now the colt made extractors internally, now the one you are looking at here from the cr6920 has nothing, however it has the spring of the foals, which is the additional golden spring. power spring with the black shock absorber meaning there is a good chance this was assembled into colt uh with some of the parts but the main part of the bolt was missing now as far as the colt is concerned you will also see marking there 13 629 on the front here instead of the c with the current production ones that are from the government so you'll see basically what this shows you is that the bolt carriers that you're getting aren't cold either now the strange thing is when When you take a look at a lot of what's out there you'll see that there are some that are a mixed bag, some will have cold parts and some won't, so this is what separates the original rifles from the current production rifles.
Now the bulk carriers that are used Colt have used subcontractors on the last four military contracts, however those bolts had to be made on their tdp and they had to be checked before putting the rifles on, so that's what the control of Colt quality. What they had an incredible quality control department the things we are seeing today without those brands I now know, from listening to many viewers out there, that many viewers had called cult and complained because why not? We don't have cold parts, why aren't they marked? I have heard of many different ways this has been.
The colts responded that some say, oh, they just forgot to do it. Some people say no, we don't. who have already been making a lot of excuses, there is a reality that Colt has made these rifles with some of these things for the last 50 or 60 years, why are they changing now and that basically tells you this with the rifles that you are coming out of the coal in right now it's just an assembly plant instead of a manufacturing plant which it was now, everything i'm showing you here are different and show where something was made, does this cr6920 work?
Oh, I'm sure you do. I'm not going to try it, I'm not going to shoot it because it's not mine, they just lent it to me for this video, everything I'm telling you, I'm not saying anything about the quality of the rifle, if the rifle is good or not, if it's of lower quality, what we are looking at is where the parts are made and the rifle you are buying is not the same one you used to get now, there is a reason we bought it. carbon rifles, there was what there was, these were the things that set Colt apart from everyone else in the industry.
They made these weapons with their TDP, something that no one else could do. We often had questions. I have received many. questions over the years i want to buy something that is as close to the us government gun as possible do i buy the colt or do i buy the collector's edition fn and i always told them they should buy the colt because the colt has all the US government markings on them are the exact same markings on the same parts of the guns that you have, which are the two

differences

in the fire control uh and the barrel length, well it all came down to colt because It's your tdp it's your weapon.
They are allowed to put the marks of the US government and all its marks. They are allowed to do that when they have contracts with the US government, but they cannot use their drawings for commercial use. Colt Can, so I would say. Well absolutely buy the colt because you'll get the exact same brands, well nowadays I can't really tell you that at this point, at least from what I'm seeing, it doesn't make much difference what weapons you use. What you're getting is outsourced anyway, uh fn at least gives you, you know, the rast and everything that the colts didn't give you, um colt, they produced some that had the m4 markings, they tried something, they said they had the m4a1 brands. them and I can tell you from personal experience.
I remember when I was working at Colt at the time, Dennis Value, uh, he was the head of manufacturing at Colts on a commercial line and I can remember sitting down with Dennis and telling him what. What we have to do is produce a commercial rifle that is marked as US Government property. It comes in exactly the same box and in exactly the same condition as the US Government drugs at that time. You know he heard me, but I guess so. I don't think it was a good idea, it wasn't necessary. uh they had all kinds of money coming in from the trading market so they never did well.
Here we are several years later and what are they doing? They are finally there. You're finally seeing it, so I want to make sure people understand that we're not talking about the new rifles not being good. I'm not saying this is basically an examination of how rifles have changed. and where the parts are made and what they are doing now due to the colts situation with the loss of the government contract. Is it worth it at this point to continually manufacture parts in-house? Probably not and they will cover the costs. in the commercial line what they did in those days because the law for military contracts does not, if you were to get one of these rifles that was manufactured before 2011, you would know for sure that the rifle you are getting is made with the Exact same parts that went into US government arms with exactly the same quality control, exactly the same metrology, exactly the same, all with those couple of changes, you're buying a rifle now, you don't really know what you're buying, do you?
No? I don't know where the parts come from, you see mixes and combinations, there is no one source for everything anymore, so looking at the two rifles you can see this rifle very clearly. The parts here are consistent, they were always consistent in every rifle you would use. Look, even if you go back to the air, 15 smarter sporting rifles, you would have seen the barrels marked the same as the cmp chrome bore cmp one slash seven nato cmp one slash seven h bar you would see the date codes, you would see the forging of uh , you know, the codes for the chrome process, you look at the upper receivers, you would see the c there, those were always the same with the Colt rifles before the loss of the government contract and the guns that are. produce now those things were all the same from the year 19, you know, early '60s until, say, 2016 or 2015, 2014, when coal started to reduce its production and started bringing in all the parts outsourced, but when we bought coal , that's why we buy coal. from anyone else because of the US government contract we do for the US government contract we have all the quality control that we do for the tdp we have all this that's why we buy coal now we look at what we are buying now well we have a Harford Horsey on the side uh we look at the parts the parts are not the same they are not made in the same places do they work?
I've never heard anyone complain about the quality of this rifle and that it works, the only point. What we are saying is that they are not the same here as they were before, so when you are looking to buy one of these rifles, if you want to buy the quintessential cult, you will want to buy the standard that each AR-15 is made up of. In comparison, you buy one that says police carbine on the left side and you know it was made before 2011, uh, because that's when you know they were making the weapons for the US government, you had everything in place, like this is. the quintessential rifle the current production one is a good rifle uh I'm sure it works well um it's no better or worse than anything else out there uh that's kind of contradictory and put together um I'm sure the coldness doesn't I don't maintain a good quality control to make sure these things work, but it's not a quintessential cold.
This is not the rifle I would buy. You know, frankly, that's why I borrowed this because I had no intention of buying any. These new ones, all my cult rifles, are post 2011. uh they were all made in those days only when I have more current than that's my le901 and the le901 was made by cole because they are all proprietary parts, um, they. They're not ones that you can contract with someone else, so that's really what's different, so I hope you enjoyed this again, this is some very nerdy stuff that talks very specifically about how these things are different and what makes them Old is different from new and you know what you would buy, the price right now, right now, we're looking at, we're looking at what Cole is putting out now, I don't think I would give it any more looks. than what anyone else has right now where, if he was back, you know, five or six, seven years ago, I sawjust a 6920 on the shelf I would grab it right away because I know that's what it was now when we say mil-spec Does that mean it's the best?
No, it means military spec means it has to meet the drawings, so all we expect, for example, this is a military spec rifle. In fact, I can tell you how long this cannon will last. like destruction is predictable because everything is made to a specific standard, we know all these things, we know, I know I can tell you how long bolts last, I can tell you how long springs last, I know because US military specifications say what everything here has to do with different parts I have no idea, I couldn't tell you any of that, so that's where the real difference is.
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