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The Best of Karamo | Maury Show

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today with the help of our good friend carama we're helping our guests answer some burning questions that have affected their lives for many years now sitting on our set is gail and her boyfriend of 10 years lamont you see in her heart gail believes she knows the truth about lamont the truth that he has not been faithful but lamont has convinced gail that her suspicions are simply not true in fact when gail caught lamont in the act she was told it's not what you think so last night caramel sat down with gail to dig deeper into this troubled relationship watch this so i know you just told me that you are 52 which you look gorgeous and stunning thank you what does it feel like to know that you are more and you're here in this moment right now it's a bit of sweet you should say um i just want to rectify a lot of things in my life that i'm going through and if this is going to help me i thank

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and everybody for letting me come here and the morning producers told me that y'all live in the same apartment building with different apartments yes wow there's two flights there well when i first met him um he stayed with me but it started to him leaving and not coming home and i say why why you can't come home why are you always out in the street and he got tired of me not opening the door to leatherman because i say if you don't want to be here don't come back how does it make you feel when he calls you clingy i don't like it i don't...
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like it yeah i mean which one we want to be with your man you found a naked woman two two two you found two naked women in his closet or in his apartment tell me about that i called him he wouldn't answer i called him again he wanted to ask so i went upstairs i heard him and the woman talking i knocked on the door i said you miles will open the door i hear you and her in there so when you open the door i push my way in i went to go to the bedroom and i'm looking around and behind the door was a girl standing in his robe she comes out she was like he said y'all not together he said that not together has he ever admitted it in those moments what he was doing no because i see this breaking you up inside yeah i know i deserve better i do i know i do yeah you deserve better it's once you get those answers i feel like that could be the first step for you to really start to understand what you deserve and start moving towards that okay i got you okay all right thank you how would you describe like the first six months you all got together wonderful um he made me happy you know he used to give me um flowers um he used to give me um romantic he was in the first two years very romantic so then there was a time then then you he moved in right yes what did you notice after that him leaving not coming home me calling he not picking up the telephone meanwhile you have a daughter named latasha right yes i do that's my mother and i'm not going nowhere you're not...
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going to treat my mother like that no it's over then all of a sudden lamont starts getting phone calls what's that all about he would pick up the phone and look and then turn it upside down phones get men in more trouble yeah phones don't get you in trouble you know what i mean first of all for you to feel the way you feel that you think that it's okay for you to go until my phone wasn't doing nothing she wasn't automatically when you know somebody of trying to tell people to make it seem like i'm a bad person i've been with him i wasn't raised to be no bad person i wasn't raised i want to talk about these living arrangements lamont do you all get along better living in two apartments no no absolutely not no no together neither you know why murray the simple fact that gail wants control of me no she wants a man with me she can't hurt her i'm 57 years old she goes down to your apartment okay she's a naked woman in your apartment okay true indeed now about that situation there once you already tell me leave me alone don't bother me stay away from my house so you're not together but it wasn't even meant it wasn't two days later we back speaking again we're back together two days later i see she stood there and i said who in here opened this door one ran out she said blue pill i couldn't even catch up i wanted to shall that make it right for you to do what you were doing it's nice to have people live...
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on the stage for a while absolutely it's a little different because he don't want to stop doing what he's doing because i don't want you to keep coming to my house dog doodle on my door i took all his clothes my dog i have a chihuahua he just took a poop i took his hat i picked the poop up i went to his door that you think is good like that and i said you feel me just the woman that you think don't do stuff like this okay i got it okay guys that's what you call talking about doggy do revenge and now gail's daughter latasha has had a lot to say about this relationship and she's with us today have you have you heard them argue like this before all the time

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all the time this is what they do back and forth you think they should break up absolutely 100 yes move on yes my mother should move on he don't want nothing he's not doing nothing you think he cheats on her i sure do do you think your mother cheats on me i sure don't i sure i know you're gonna say that i'm not sure it's gonna be in the pudding anyway when it comes he accused me of people from my job he accused me of the man that works downtown that sells hat the man i messed with was somebody who i knew for years who i grew up with that knew me for years okay i admitted my truth lamont they say that you mess with other women in the building i ain't messing with all the women in the building i socialize with other women in the building i see okay friends my...
daughter asked me the question it's going to be i asked him for i foreign him to help me yes i did yesterday even though why are you saying that what are you doing to me what are you saying though why are you saying that what are you saying with all this your mother is still with him your mother still loves him i know true and i'm still with her she's like one way me saying it both ways because it's the same way how does she feel about me i don't want to feel the same way i don't want to see my mother crying all right i don't want to see my side cause your mother want control of me it's not about control why do you think your mother's still with him i think my mother's still with him because she hasn't given herself the ability to be as great as she could be my mother's been doing really good she could be so grand she's so beautiful like you strong absolutely i won't take none of that from you you have to be with him you don't i want to take nothing you have an ultimatum don't you latasha she yeah is that the lamont or me i don't want to deal with that no more i don't want to hear your arguing so caramel i no matter how i read these results i think you want to spend some time with them don't you a hundred percent especially after hearing that ultimatum that we just heard right now there is a lot that this family needs to heal from no matter what these results say we got to take another step and i want...
to be there for them okay here's lamont's lie detector results do you disappear for days at a time because you're out sleeping with another woman you said no lamont and the lie detector test determined you're telling the truth during the relationship with gail have you ever used any of your family members as a way to cover up your cheating you said no the lie detector test determined you are telling the truth no did you ever sleep with either of the women who gail found naked in your home you said no the lie detector test determined you're telling the truth on man i know what i'm doing man during your relationship with gail have you ever slept with another woman you admitted to our lie detector administrator that you slept with two other women who were those women lamont were they were they in the building no absolutely not we've got your lie detector test okay during your relationship with lamont have you ever had sexual contact of any kind with any of your co-workers you said no the lie detector test determined you are telling the truth thank you other than the one man that lamont already knows about have you ever cheated on him you admitted to our lie detector administrator you cheated with three other men wow it's actually two other men it was three altogether counting that guy as far as i am concerned you all are equal we both got two other people speak for yourself hey friends my name is caramo and today

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let me guest host this next segment y'all know i'm quietly freaking out because i've been watching

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forever and this next story is one that i can truly relate to and i'll help them with a resolution joining us from rochester new york is christana christina was shocked when her boyfriend of three years devon accused her of cheating but nothing prepared her for the moment he demanded a dna test for their two-month-old baby nova chrysonna swears she's been faithful since the day they met but devin simply believes she's a liar check this out let me tell you something christiane is no angel before she got pregnant she was out partying 24 7. and me in the house playing babysitter taking care of her kids but men do you know babysits why a woman goes out to parties when the baby wake up at night i tap kristiana tell her to get her baby i'm not getting involved with this baby until the dna says that i'm the father and i'm not married if i find out i'm not the father i'm packing up and i'm leaving because johnny's gonna be on their own wow there's a lot going on there so first of all everyone help me welcome kristiana to the

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christiana thank you so much for allowing me to help you today with your story i want to ask you first of all how does it feel when devin accuses you of cheating it makes me feel like a waste of space honestly we've been together for so long and um i thought we planned this baby...
together so the fact that he's actually denying our baby on national tv is crazy if there was any time that you ever felt like you did not want to be with me you did not trust me or you felt like you could not build a family with me you should have just left me alone i can tell you christina that would blow anybody's mind especially after you keep saying that you were building and building and now it's causing you to feel like a waste of space but christina what i want to know is what was devon's reaction when you told him you were pregnant he was happy why are you trying to act like he don't um he wasn't happy uh we didn't plan this whether my baby was playing or not we knew what was doing he was happy we was inside of a phone store buying up some new phones and i wasn't doing like a medical cleanse i was just doing like a six month flush dumb are you happy about the phone i caught that little shade right there but at least you were here man i was rocking out with it no no no i'm not gonna we're gonna get to your point of view a little bit but you had to throw that little quick little shade in there really quickly he was happy about that pregnancy testing when i put it out my pocket he was so happy the excitement was there in the beginning but uh christana when did devon tell you that he wanted a dna test for baby nova he would throw shade like he would throw out um throw shots at me like oh yeah um the next time i have a baby i'm...
having a dna test so with that being said in the hospital they actually won a paternity test he didn't take it he signed the birth certificate fine after the fact we get back home i was pressured that was the president and i'm like okay so do so that's when i sat him down and asked him do you want to get a dna test and he said yeah the actions that you take made me thought the baby too and plus i'm part of the swat mob so any baby that come this way getting swapped exactly so you say little dumb stuff like that but he wouldn't bring it to me oh yeah i can um we need to take a dna test we can say dumb stuff oh christina do you you know since he over here give him a little shady comments i wanted you to take a look at this child because these shady comments your child could see one day if the child is proving to be yours do you think that nova and devin look alike look at that beautiful baby right there yes look at my baby that forehead that ain't my forehead for what cause i don't got no big forehead that's his forehead she reminds me of somebody right now but they're gonna be juicy she got his lips that ain't my nose don't do that that baby is a beautiful mixture that baby is a beautiful mixture kristana how do you feel about the fact that devin won't marry you without the dna test for nova i don't care about that part because i feel like get do do do what's right by you you feel like you ain't going to marry no...
woman until you figure out if the kid is yours didn't do that that's fine by me because i wouldn't want to marry no man who i felt like was you know i was doubting or whatever the case may be i wouldn't want to but all i know is i can't wait till we do because this is baby all right well chris my baby looks just like you devin what has cristana done to make you lose trust in her christina is very very very sneaky and she has her family like like right there on her back just helping her out she feels like you know at the end of the day she feels like she's regardless she has a lot of male friends yeah i just i we gave you a chance to speak i want to hear what devon has to say about this because i i want to get clarity on all this i mean i caught it in action i caught her like sneak texting i've seen it all i've seen like texas from people from her past relationships she just had the baby two months ago and she's already going out tuesday wednesday thursday friday saturday sunday that's that's her day monday she might get a break but no that's a lie devin there is some behavior right now that you're exhibiting that does seem controlling is that why you're controlling do you feel like you're controlling or trying to control christana i feel like i'm just putting my guard up like in that aspect like i mean i never see myself being controlling like just telling her like hey you can't go out i mean she got...
she's grown she can go out and do all that but it's i'm not babysitting you just said earlier that you felt happy y'all went and got another pregnancy test and did a second one to bring back the drawer i just saw your face change your whole bone structure in your head got soft because when i started talking about the child in that moment because i didn't believe the baby was when she said she's pregnant i didn't believe she was really pregnant and stuff and all that because it's like we've been was together two years before she got pregnant so i didn't even think we can have a baby together so then devin why did you ask christana for this dna test oh this is a must i'm part of swat mom we we gotta get this with this dna test you see he says dumb stuff like that and then what is what is this i do want to know who's the small mob who's the leader of this swamp mob who started this club there's a treehouse club with you and your brother that's what you call it oh okay i got it now there was also a text message exchange between another man that is sort of feeding into this distrust can you tell me about that well it was a text message from her so-called weed man so she was from who from her man from her weed man she said that this was her weed man and texting him because she knew him and she was doing her hair i had i don't believe that at all because the guy is young like me and who doesn't reply goes to the...
weed man it's but it says what you doing baby girl just got out the

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er why don't you come over here hold on i'm doing my mom's hair hold on if anybody texts me that's not my partner and says what you're doing baby girl and you out the

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er hold on hold on hold on you know that's a little bit more intimate of a conversation okay so could you just tell me right now christina is that an actual real text that you sent and remember i cannot be getting out the

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er and doing my mom here i live in my own house okay okay okay you were so caught up doing you you were so caught doing your mom's hair no you didn't get this message from your weight man we don't have a clear answer on the message from the wii man but all right we can't go for that what we do know is that there is baby nova here right now and that's what it is so devin i want to know because we've seen the picture of this beautiful baby come on now look at that she is gorgeous why do you have doubts about the way nova looks so when noah first came out she was a little light skinned on the lighter side you know i was a little scared about that yeah she she actually has a widow's peak so that's really really scary because i know genetic those are genetically and nobody in my family has a little key i mean i got a little bit of a wide forehead but i don't it's not to that extent and she i mean her

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that's what i'm going off of like you can't just bring that to me and not tell me i don't need a dna test okay so i'm glad you brought the widow's peak because you know as black people we come in many beautiful shades and so sometimes you can't tell by the skin color but i know geneticist so i don't know about widow's peaks so that could be a possibility we're going to have to find that out soon but devin i want to know from you and this is real talk because we know what happened in your past we know what went on with this other woman and that child what's going to happen with you and christana if nova is not your child i'm moving in with my mom's house no matter how bad i got to suck it up i'm moving back to my mom and i'm just i'm a dropper but what i have in the envelope right now is your future and we've got to figure this out because no matter what the results are you got to move forward in a healthy way all right in the case of two-month-old nova devin nova is your daughter what i said hope you're ready to marry me period baby we know christina how you feel right now devon tell me how you feeling right now because i saw the smile come in immediately i mean i feel good man i didn't want to get embarrassed man i just feel good man so now that you got the swab and you're not you you're part of the swab mom are we are we evolving to something new is this something new is it the daddy mob the...
proud father mob like what what can we evolve that to come on we gotta try to make it to late night mom i'm trying to stay up sometimes and try to help her out listen i love that that is gross right there now three years ago

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interviewed a woman named jolene and her husband michael these two seem to be drowning in a pool of miscommunication and mistrust jolene was positive that a polygraph test was going to prove that michael was cheating on her during your relationship with jolene have you ever used your second apartment to sleep with another woman you said no you are telling the truth during the six years you've been with jolene have you ever had sexual contact of any kind with any other woman he said no he's telling the truth jolene admitted she's been cheating on her husband because i thought that he was cheating wait so you did cheat on him oh no she did multiple times i want to know is how many and how long and how many different men three jolene was shocked that michael had passed and as you just saw michael was shocked when jolene confessed to him that she had cheated today jolene is back and so is michael because their mutual mistrust is at an all-time high and their relationship is about to implode jolene i'm really excited to meet you and thank you so much for being here again so i want to know how did it feel when you found out that michael had passed the lie detector test last time i was shocked completely shocked i thought for sure that...
he was cheating and to find out that he wasn't was just completely unbelievable now the thing is is that it was shocking for all of us when you finally admitted that you had cheated on him tell me why did you want to admit that then well because i don't want to have um any secrets between us if i if i was unhappy i'm gonna let him know that i'm unhappy and why what else has he done that has made you believe that he could be cheating because he proved the first time that he wasn't oh i've caught him with um stains on his bed at the hotel that he was staying at for two months because he was going to get an apartment so he had to stay at a hotel while he was finding the apartment he's the detective other reasons oh this is the

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i i said i still feel suspicious of you michael and he said i passed that lie detected this is a free what was it michael that you said pass free pass yeah that's what he said so why wouldn't i think he was so he keeps making jokes about saying i get a free pass because you i don't think it's funny jokes and he knows that those type of comments shouldn't be considered jokes because i think sometimes we forget that when it comes to relationships there's something about intention and impact and you can have the intention of wanting to do something as it a joke but if the impact says it hurts me then it no longer is a joke but can you continue to explain why are you and...
michael not living together because i'm a little confused on that part he lived with me for a little while he started to drink and he had he went to a sober house and he was living in the sober house they got him an apartment and he said do you want me to take this apartment they found i said yeah you should take it because in case he drank or we had a fight he would always have a safe haven to go to because i do have i had two minor children at the time now my daughter's 20. so do you have access to the department no he took the key why he lost it he said so you don't believe him when he said that he lost the key yeah and so then when i did come in with my when i came in with my key i caught a woman in his house on his couch and very soon after that he took the key back so i know you told our producers that you and michael are not intimate at all why do you think that is we were intimate one time in the past four months and why do you think that it is i don't know four months one time intimate you need to go back on that lie detector machine that's a lie why are you making up stories michael you're such a liar oh my gosh you're gonna fail this time i know you are okay you lie way too much to pass it well michael i just gotta start off with this there's nothing to prove anymore she just told me directly you just heard her say that she is cheating on her the reason why she said it is because she got caught that's the only reason why she...
knows i know that's why she admits it like because it's nothing new he's lying you've caught jolene now several times multiple but i forgive her because that's the man i am and i'm in love with him he's got the girl from the hotel's number in his phone he's got the girl that was on his couch and his phone texting i love you love ya can't wait i don't say love you to anybody you do it's for you it's in your phone yeah okay i'll put my phone up can't wait to see you to the girl that was on your couch when i walked in and then he's got the girl's phone number from the hotel logged in with her room number as her room number that's the name instead of her name it's the room men aren't supposed to have female friends you're talking about me well she did say to me that she thinks that you were cheating with somebody in the hotel room can you tell me was there someone in the house it's ridiculous going on there of course not julian calls me a cheater to justify her actions which she does that's it plain and simple the fact that i don't have my own place is because jolene throws me out more times than than

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walks his dog i don't judge the way that anyone defines a relationship but it is a bit unconventional that this married couple does live in two separate homes it's been unconventional since the beginning you know what our own father said it's a smart thing keep that...
house about when jolene said that there was a woman sleeping on your couch okay this is what happened i went over my friend's house there was a girl that i started talking she started talking with blah blah laughing she was homeless would you not help someone out of this homeless if you could she called me and asked me if you could stay i said sure sleep on my couch you've said that you're a good guy you're a good guy and i also know that you told our producers that you feel like jolene can't accept the fact that you're a good man explain why you said that i'm too good for her listen every other man he's his own sister i'm too good for her sad that you're too good that's what she said and let me tell you something how could i be in love with you i don't know you think you're too good for me that's what your sister said are you you always say it to me i'm too good for you you're a piece of garbage why do i waste my time stop cheating and stop lying jolene you just said how could i be in love with you are you not in love with him no i'm not i love you now she's not in love with me no i'm not in love when i asked her she was in love with me the other day she said yes no i didn't yes i am in love with her what do you love about jolene well she was my

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friend and my wife and my lover and my everything do you want your marriage to work i obviously don't because i don't want to argue with him...
and that is all the man wants that's what she's doing right now i don't want to argue i got to tell you i'm seeing a lot of things here and i have sick of him i have clarity on how i can help you all michael i want to go ahead and start with your results okay actually since passing our lie detector test on the last

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have you had any sexual contact of any kind with anyone else you said no and the lie detector test determined you're telling the truth he's telling the truth that's right you seem shocked by that i think you know in your heart that this is a good guy you got here that's right jolene it's time to get to yours do you have anything to say before we get to your lie detective yeah i'm gonna fail i'm sorry i'm not gonna fail okay other than the three men you previously admitted to have you slept with any other men jolene no you admitted to our administrator that you have not sex sexual contact semantics you admitted she admitted that she had other than the three this is the thing other than the three you got fooled around with another dude sexual contact means slapping a butt no it doesn't yes it does have you slept with any of your exes you admitted to our lie detector administrator and you admit admitted to all of us here earlier today that your words there are too many times to count wow that's amazing too because you lied about that jolene we asked did you start cheating on your husband michael within the...
first year of your marriage you admitted to our lie detective administrator that you did yeah no i didn't you said that you started when i went to my grandmother's i just asked the other day he knew about that another lie he said three times with three different men on the last

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that is the three first year you are something you are alive this is the last question have you slept with another man in the past month you admitted to our live detective administrators that you have in the past two weeks what the frick am i doing what a waste of time ten years i've invested in you and love you stop telling me you cheated on me stop telling me that you guys are saying that okay she's making me sick i'm crushed the only advice that i have for you two is that this relationship needs to be done yeah it's just the honest truth you know it already you've checked out this is the thing i have a feeling that you're not willing to let go of this relationship until she lets you go probably because it's pretty sad i really feel bad because you know something when i leave when i do leave it's gonna lost cause for her do you believe this relationship needs to end i don't i don't want it to do you think it needs to not what you want to do you think it needs it it should yes great can you let him go right now you don't want to and why don't you want to let him go you don't want to let him go because you're you you you need...
this you're using him this is an unhealthy relationship in every way shape and form you know it and you know it i'm gonna give y'all one more shot right now can you say it's done no will you let him go no so unfortunately you're going to be in this cycle of this unhealthy relationship over and over again this is unhealthy this is not going to ever be resolved whether it's with

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whether it's with caramel it's not going to be resolved until you two do what you need to do which is ending i'm really excited because caramel is with us and we're bringing you all new updates from the explosive mari stories that he was a big part of now you really do have a way of connecting i mean i got to give it to you uh uh what why do you think that is well i appreciate that i think it's because i'm the guest almost every storyline you've ever had on your

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i promise you i've lived through it and so i relate so in other words i've been there done that they've done that okay so last season caramel guest hosted an episode and it featured a young woman named jasmine who was determined to prove to her ex-boyfriend ray that he was the father of her son aiden now as you're about to see rey's fiance brenda she was a big part of this story why is ray convinced that you cheated on him raymond actually found some messages on snapchat and i was messaging his ex-

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on my part i learned from that for the record did you ever change no that's your own fault no i never cheated on raymond i was loyal from the beginning and to the end to the day that he left how is that lawyer if he snapchatted another guy but honestly i think that it was an excuse because he was talking to brenda he supposedly only knew him for three days and then he moved out of my house the standard he moved out of my house he moved in with her so i mean obviously there's something going on he wasn't with you when he hit me up okay not like he planned it and so i was like oh hey you know what let's catch her cheating so why do you suspect that brenda is jealous of you and that's what i heard from the producers that you said i mean we have two kids together and we had we're together for three years some years of history i would have been jealous too jealous of what what was rey's reaction when you told him that you were pregnant with aiden raymond was actually very happy for uh thank you thank you thank you thank you he said a bad man well hold on hold on ray hold on hold on ray and brenda please just one second right now jasmine hold on jasmine what's going on so we're having a moment right now because jasmine is i could see the emotions coming up we're all watching this in the real time and we're seeing somebody whose real life is playing out in front of us and this is one of the things that anybody who is watching right now no...
well hold on brendan brenda because i'm about to come to you right quick really quick but what i need people to understand is that i do respect and i appreciate everything that you all are doing being vulnerable right now and sharing your lives but at the end of the day what we just saw was jasmine truly being hurt by the situation because no matter what the results will be at the end of this this is her real life and this is her kids ray everyone else is talking but you're the father in this like i said she always say uh couldn't not treat me right and provide and be able to cook clean and obviously be a woman like obviously a woman should be and be able to be truthful and loyal and to be able to treat a man right and obviously those flaws are going to play in hand and obviously this is where we land i'm going to come back and get more from you as well but jasmine can you tell me what happened there what was going on what were you feeling very angry yeah if brenda has nothing to do with this she just butts her her nose into everybody's business i can see that not only is the situation hurting you but also the now the way that this relationship has gotten toxic i can see that already let me be real with y'all jasmine was ray there for you throughout the pregnancy and the birth of aiden he was there for both of my pregnancies he was very good he was hands on um he rubbed my feet when i needed to he went and got the cravings like that i i knew when i was...
pregnant he was there were both in my purse he was there and i don't understand why all of a sudden now you know like why he's not there i want to bring up baby aiden because we're talking about baby aiden right now jasmine what does raymond say about aiden's looks he's never directly told me but i think why he think he doesn't look like him is maybe because he's so light-skinned his eyes are blue um his mom actually has blue eyes and our daughter she got his um she got his hazel eyes and has ray been helping you with aiden actually in the very beginning he was but now no he is not he's not helping me whatsoever why because you're claiming child support and you want more help or what i don't care about the money i just want my son to be able to have his father there when i understand that brenda is pregnant now why do you believe rey should get a dna test for her baby i think she is guilty and i think that is amy raymond's son because i added up the dates brenda is actually further along than that she than she is saying the day that she conceived me and reign were still together which proves that he was cheating or it's not his baby jasmine i i got to be real with you it is it is breaking my heart and i'm not taking sides on either of this but i can see the emotion still welling up on you what is the hardest part of all this for you the hardest part is my son not being able to get the same love that his sister got all i want...
is for my son to be able to have his father around and yeah that's what that's what i want because he deserves so much better than what he's getting right now the emotions are raw right now and i appreciate your vulnerability now it's time to hear what rey and brenda have to say about all of this please welcome ray and brenda from lindsay california this is where i want to get in with y'all we've seen the emotions we've seen how raw this is for jasmine but ray jasmine believes that brenda is the reason you walked out on her and the kids tell me ray is that true that is false like i said how's it going to be a relationship when there is no trust built jasmine says that she thinks you're jealous of her how do you feel about that what do you mean jealous of what this this is a concern of jasmine is there a jealousy of the family that she has with rey another funny thing i'm not even allowed to have raymond's actual phone number he wouldn't got a government fund because i'm not allowed because somebody has stress issues they have a joint facebook together i mean what are you gonna do if you find out that aiden is not your child then i wouldn't be providing for him but i mean at the same time if he's gonna be interacting with my daughter then i would have to do and step to step up it's not going to change my love for him it's the fact that at least i'll know the truth at the end of the day and know that it was...
or wasn't a lie i will tell you all this that no matter what these results say there does need to be some resolution and so we're going to have to talk about that but first let's get to these results in the paternity case of 10 month old aiden ray aiden is your son thank you thank you good and that's what we were hoping for the three of you are in this now together we now know that both children belong to ray and jasmine and brenda you're in the picture so what we got to talk about is the way that you all are communicating with each other because it is not healthy i've been trying to move forward but whenever she constantly constantly blames everything towards me brenda what i'm hearing is that you're responding to jasmine in a way because you feel like she's attacking you you want to attack back but this is the thing whatever jasmine does you're in control of your own actions and i believe truly yes you might have some feelings about this relationship yes you got involved in something that had nothing to do with you but you got to do better for yourself you understand again i am okay but that starts with the way that you communicate again with the mother of your man's children but how are you supposed to do that when she throws shade you turn the other cheek exactly and you let your man handle it you let your man handle it that's just the reality of it jasmine brenda is saying right now that you send texts that are...
disrespectful to her no i don't i don't just respect okay i understand what you said that your experience or what you think you've done but the way it's been received jasmine because you see i'm i'm here with you the way that it's being received is that it is disrespectful can you acknowledge that maybe there's a way for you to better text brenda and ray when you have an issue it goes both ways raymond has no respect for me he never has we're all adults here and this one i'm going to end this we are all adults every single one of you right now have to take responsibility for your own action there we go ray and ray right now what i want you to do this is for me because i know this will start the process of healing can you sit there and look at jasmine and say i apologize for bringing you on this

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i can honestly say yes and be the bigger man and the bigger person and adult and say that i am sorry for bringing you onto this

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ray was the father so what happened after the

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did he step up well our producer spoke with brenda who informed us that she and ray are still together which is kind of nice to hear and she claims that rey is definitely stepping up being a great father however she did say that there's still some friction between her and jasmine okay so what would advice would you if they're still friction what advice would you give them you know what the thing in the day they're going to have to sit down and talk...
to each other because they're co-parenting so just you got to work it out two months ago we met christana who was determined to prove that her boyfriend devin was the father of her daughter nova take a look at this in the case of two-month-old nova nova is your daughter what i said he'll be right here very weak period well listen after the

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i really thought these two were going to put their trust issues behind them but today christana is back and so is devin and they have each requested the other take a lie detector test so let's first talk with christina thank you for being here today yeah thank you for having me you know since the last

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has devin been i gotta know a better father to beautiful baby nova um yes he has he gets up at night you know what i'm saying it helped me he changed her diapers in the middle of the night he'd be making bottles in the middle of the night when i don't want to get up and the whole reason you were on that

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for the dna test anyway is because devon was accusing you of cheating on him have those accusations gone away since then no the accusations don't change any time he wants to be in control he he throws it in my face like oh no you're going to go if you want to do this you know i'm saying nope you're going to go you're going to go be a hoe so this is interesting that you say this because when we were on last time i asked devin does he feel like he has controlling behavior and he said no...
it's my wall is up and you're telling me now that you feel like he still is controlling you can you tell me exactly what's going on yeah like i don't want to make him feel like i'm doing nothing wrong when i'm not so when he say oh no you can't go i don't go on the last

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when we talked i asked you about your past and you said that your self-esteem was affected in the past yeah because of relationships the way people treated you how is devin's behavior in this moment affecting your self-esteem i don't know i mean when i was 20 and we've been obviously i'm 23 now and we've been growing together but i'm still learning myself as a woman so it's like things that i want to experience and it's things that i want to do and stuff and it's just like i can't do it because you know i have a man who i got to make sure is who who makes trust me because i love him and i want to be with him i don't want to start over i just want him to trust me and i just want him to know that like it's okay for somebody call me beautiful it's okay for somebody to give me a compliment so i want to ask you directly right now have you ever cheated on devin no okay because you agreed to take a lie detector test but you also asked devin to take one why one time in the summer we were at the gas station and i was sitting inside the car and he was going inside the car to get gas i mean inside the gas station to get gas his phone...
kept ringing bling bling bling bling it was a girl constantly texting him like bring me my keys just cursing him out telling him to bring her keys all right so he come back he pumping the gas the girl calls the phone and i asked her like what you calling for she's like oh he need to bring me my keys i'm like bring you your keys for what i'm like who is this i'm like she like what who is this i'm like this is his girl she's like oh his girl oh he'd been at my house every night just tell your man to bring me my keys and then by the time we got off the phone he was getting in the car so i'm like devin who is this and the story he gives me is this is somebody that he gave a ride to and she dropped the keys in the car do you think this lie detector test is going to solve your your relationship problems i don't think he's going to solve it but i think it's going to help i think it's going to be like the first step to him being able to trust me and know that no other man is going to take your spot joining us now on set is devin devin how you doing man i'm good man you look sharp thanks man yeah well first of all you've stepped up and held true to hashtag late night mom try my

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with my baby now man she's my little angel after you got those results i thought that would have relieved sort of the trust issues that were happening you texting people you know you you know bringing people around your friends and stuff that i...
did not trust you said that christina has way too much free time on her hands did she how do you feel like she has all this free time to cheat when she has a brand new baby i work 16 hours out a day like five days out a week so i have eight hours you know to at home with my you know my kids so those eight hours christina is out like she is dipping on me she's leaving me with the kids and i don't know i don't know what's going on and just like how she said i don't answer my phone calls and all that christina don't answer devin is lying i answer every every phone call every text message i text him ten times in a row and he still won't answer don't lie do you feel like you're controlling christana i mean but now that i look back at it i don't feel like i'm controlling i just don't want her to hurt me bro i don't give nobody a chance to hurt me or nothing like that so christina actually says she thinks you're the one that's cheating that's right why be in a relationship if you feel like that we've been together for three years before we had a kid you've been feeling like this during the pregnancy you was feeling like this why stay with me and keep going through the same stuff if you feel like i'm just this bad person because we've been together for three years if i feel like a man be cheating on me for three years i'm done i'm done what do you look no i just don't know this is the problem...
he talk about me like i'm just so bad but you want to be with me why i don't cheat sorry about the text messages and i apologize about the mistakes that i made but at the same time either you're gonna grow with me or you're gonna leave me and i tell you this all the time she actually like i was saying before thinks that you have been cheating why do you think she feels that way i mean i i work a ton and she got that phone call from that girl that i gave a ride to because i was i was doing like rides and stuff i was gay with this girl right and she left her keys in my car and she was snapping and i had you know you can't just glide over that like that was easy like you can't just be like ah no i mean she maybe she feel this way because a girl called my phone and was like uh yo you tell him to bring my keys there's something suspicious about this story yeah my thing is why would she be calling your phone being disrespectful if she wants you to bring her keys there had to be something else there are you both ready to confront the truth that is in these lie detector tests yeah you got no choice now all right so the first question have you ever had sexual contact of any kind with your male

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friend christina you said no and the lie detector test determined you were telling the truth all right during your relationship with devin have you had sexual contact of any kind with any other man you said no and the lie detector test determined you're...
telling the truth no that's not funny it's not funny it's not funny because i'm a good woman and and a lot of people up people bring people mindset with stuff like that you don't understand how bad it feels so i feel good that's why i'm crying and i'm happy that you know the truth but you understand i could have been one of the women that was not felt like nothing after this you know what i'm saying we've got clarity for you now it's time for you devin are you ready yeah i'm ready have you ever lied about your location so that you can sleep with other women devin you said no and the lie detector test determined you're telling the truth you already know baby did you have sexual contact with the woman whose keys were in possession of you told our lie detector that you did kiss her and that you smacked her on the rear end yeah but that was because i knew her from the past like i was way back in new york don't try to admit nothing so you only have to admit the sex person that you ate fast so that you ain't feel the question i'm not dumb go ahead next what i want to know is did you tell her before that you kissed no but i told her that she was somebody from the past like i've been knew her no i didn't know about that did you when she asked if anything went on did you say that you kissed i didn't tell her i kissed her okay other than what you admitted to did you engage in further sex acts with the woman who...
keys you were in possession of you said no the lie detector test determined that that was a lie no no that wasn't a lie yes it was no was it smacking butt and kissing and sexual contact so when you actually did you have any sexual contact you admitted to kissing and smacking the butt because it's not that bad but you only admit it because you didn't want nothing because we have more we have more to go okay are you accusing kristana of cheating to cover up your own infidelities you said no and the lie detector test determined that was also a lie that's not true really that's not true i'm trying to tell you dude text messages because somebody like me through inboxes because people like me i know i don't know i don't know that's not true i don't care this is a critical moment where you as a man start to learn how to be responsible for your behavior and say i want to be better but if you lie to yourself and lie to christana then you're never going to learn that lesson and this will repeat no matter with her it will repeat with other people and it will also start to repeat and this is real and the way that your daughter nova is going to start picking men do you want to admit what you do that's not true i didn't do that catherine and then on top of that that's somebody that i've been knew in the past the question was did i just have sex with her with her in the past that's that's before that's before we got...
together you both have to walk away from this and say is this what i'm worth that's the question for you both is this relationship what you're both worth yeah i want you all to think about that because i know you got a lot of thinking and you got something to think about i want everyone to meet tanya growing up tanya never knew who her biological father was and it really didn't matter until about eight years ago when she gave birth to her son who was born with serious medical conditions that's when tanya started looking for her father in hopes of uncovering her family medical history ultimately that search led her to a now deceased man named tommy and his living daughter erica are tanya and erica sisters erica doesn't think so watch this i feel like i've been living a nightmare ever since i got that shocking message on facebook i'm angry and i'm confused a bomb was dropped on my world and how am i supposed to feel my father was my world he was my everything i'm daddy's little girl i was then and i am now how dare tanya come out of nowhere and try to ruin my father's reputation nobody in my family knows about tanya or her mother and i am quite certain if my father was here he wouldn't know about them either kanye wants us to be sisters

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friends but i ain't here for that i am here for one thing and that's the truth and then i'm going to get tanya out of my life for good then i want to forget that this mess ever...
happened wow this is truly a dna mystery 37 years in the making now tanya i want to start with you judging from that piece right there why do you think erica is so upset because she was her dad's only child i don't blame her for being upset you know i didn't ask for any of this so what happened after you had your second son that made you say i need this closure he was born with congenital heart failure yeah and the doctors were asking me like our family history and i can't say nothing about my father because i don't know you know i just know my mom's side and my husband knows his mom and dad's side yeah you know and he was you know born with the heart defects and then he was also born with a club foot and that's genetic and nobody in my family has it nobody in my husband's family has it yeah and i learned that erica's dad she told me that her dad was born with a club foot and so was her son interesting did your family tell you anything about tommy it was my mom's

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friend that told me the last name and that's when i went searching on facebook for it yeah and i found out that he was deceased and i found erica i want to put up the initial message that you sent for people to say because i think it's interesting you said hey this is going to be where but i don't know who else to ask has your dad ever said anything about having a daughter 35 years ago that's quite the message to send somebody it was hard yeah it was...
hard but i didn't know like and of course the remote or through messages you can't figure out somebody's emotions and like how it's really making them feel yeah you decided then to take that ancestry test what did you discover i discovered that i have a close relative of tommy's and it's his sister that i'm linked to with ancestry dna now knowing how erica feels about all of this do you think that if you are sisters that you all be able to have a relationship it would be up to her my heart's open yeah you two have never met in person today will be the first time it'll be the first time what are you thinking about what are you feeling about this moment scared kind of relieved happy yeah you know to be able to finally meet her and hopefully find out some good answers tanya i want to know are you ready to meet erica for the first time i am well i'ma go ahead and head backstage and get erica right now erica hi how are you doing good to meet you how are you feeling i mean i have a lot of emotions i'm angry i'm upset yeah why are you angry and upset right now just the way she went about it like contact to me you know what i mean and me and my dad were so close it's so hard on me yeah why are you mad at her though for the way she contacted you what other way would you want her to do it just being so persistent and the question is is that can you understand why especially knowing about her son i do um the clubfoot is i mean it is...
common i just need proof i need proof yeah yeah she's called my dad her dad without having proof like that hurt you know what i mean like that really hurt are you ready to see tanya face the face for the first time yeah okay let's go do this this could be your sister right here i wanna know erica what is it like seeing each other face to face for the first time she knows i'm a daddy's girl and i you know i i defend that title you know i mean yeah we were so close and he was my world do you feel like you have any similarities with each other not really none at all no you said that losing him was the most painful day of your life hardest yeah he was the hardest that's why i don't like talking about it and with her i feel like i'm forced too i think that's important what you're saying right now because i i could hear before backstage when you said you're mad at tanya yeah a lot of this anger what i'm assuming is coming from the fact that you miss your dad you heard erica say backstage that she felt like you came on too strong i mean if i did i'm sorry i am but me not knowing who my dad is for 37 years it's all so hard it's hard you did this mainly not only because of your own pain for meeting not having your father but it was because of your child's health right i don't think you know that specifically what exactly is going on with your child um his head like when he was first born at two weeks old he had his hand...
amputated because of a blood clot the next very week he had open heart surgery and then at 10 months he had open-heart surgery and at four years old he had another open heart surgery yeah at a year and a half that's when they had to amputate his leg because of the club foot yeah and you know it's it's hard and my mom is not here either to where i can ask her questions so as i'm on my own did your father have heart issues he did he did as well and my son was also born with a club foot so there is some family dna issues that could potentially link you two together if the test proves that you two are siblings do you think that you two could actually start to bond and become sisters i mean gotta get to know each other i don't know her you know what i mean exactly well it's time to find out how are you both feeling about this homework nervous yeah all right in the case of tanya and erica tanya and erica you are siblings i know in this moment right now i could see two different feelings from both of you there was a sigh of relief here but there was sort of a crashing of your world what's going on right now in your head i just can't believe that is it because right now you're thinking that it changes the person your father was no but me and him were so close and i was everything there could be a chance that he may not even know about me tommy how are you feeling having this sort of 37 years mystery right now resolved relief but i'm also very...
mad because if our parents would have done the right thing we would have known about each other it would have been no surprise yeah i want you to understand something sometimes parents do these things as you said and they leave us as the kids to deal with what they've done it doesn't make them bad people and i think this is important especially for you to hear erica this doesn't change i know i can imagine because you were daddy's girl you still are and it doesn't change these results how important you were to him and it's unfortunate right now in one sense that you had to be the one to find this and be the one to step up further and handle this but i'm almost sure and positive that your father would be so proud of you for sitting here being open and you have to remember that this doesn't change who he was to you as a man as a father but this is also a moment for you to remember how great he was through sharing your memories with your sister like your sister would love to know about her dad i know and you have those moments would you like to hug your sisters this is your sister on today's

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kayla finally found out the truth you admitted to our lie detective administrator that you slept with two other women she found out her boyfriend shamara has been cheating that was a lie with multiple women that was a lie what's going to happen here i think we need to take a little break i'm too pretty too gorgeous and too good of a person for...
you to do that do me like that all i'm saying is everybody make mistakes like i said before i was a player in my past i'm trying to stay after mistake after mistake that's not a mistake right after the

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this couple in crisis sat down with our special guest caramel so i'm working with the

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i have a background in helping people through these situations to see where kayla goes from here why would you do that and to see if these two young people could look at what's causing their relationship issues and confront them kayla i can see you are in so much pain right now i just feel like he should have told me he slept with some other people before he brought me on tv shamar do you really care about kayla i really do love her to death you know what i believe you when you say you love her to death because clearly your actions are killing her do you see this she is in pain right now kayla is there anything that chamar could do to ever rebuild the trust with you um i'm gonna be clear with you what he did to you today was wrong and you did not deserve it there's not one bit of you and who you are as a young woman and as a mother that deserve to be disrespected i used to be a player in the past i get too caught up in my old ways get caught up in a lifestyle and for me i don't i don't be thinking both of you are dealing with severe trust issues shamar you have had people in your life who have not been there for you so you have felt like i...
can't be there for other people i can't make certain decisions because you didn't have it modeled for you right and this is not an excuse because this is the lesson right now for you kayla can you look at me real quick i know you're hurting him in pain you have a child these are the moments that are going to ground you and if you learn from this lesson you're going to get stronger and you're going to find the person you belong to be with i'm going to be real with you right now this relationship there's too much broken trust there's too much healing that needs to happen and i believe you're both in a space at this young age where you need to take that time to do that separate we wish everyone the

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of luck going forward samara knows what he messed up in this moment you know it and thanks for watching it seemed like me being in a relationship don't work at all even though a lie detector test proved 30 year old michael stop cheating on her you're telling the truth good baby good 42 year old january was still upset over finding three shocking videos i died inside of her fiance having secret sex with other women we have a baby together our special guest

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was here live watching everything backstage january your feelings are very valid while you're hurting but michael's hurting in his own way and it's not to excuse his behavior but we gotta figure out what's going on there and right after the

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with his engaged couple so we're in a safe distance so i think we can take off our mass now could january and michael take an honest look at their issues and confront them so i want to know from you all what can you do after you leave here so you can have better communication i need him to speak to me you know i have a beautiful heart you do you're a great person you're a great woman don't get that twisted like i didn't cheat on you because you're a horrible person you're a good person it's just hard to speak to you about what's going on with me michael do you think you have addiction before yeah you do since i was a kid bro it's weird like that you said that that just came out of you like that because it's true i do have an addiction to porn but that addiction is playing into the trust issues it's playing into the communication anytime we have addiction addictive behavior it starts to play into so many areas of our lives and if you can confront that addiction if you can confront the communication i promise you this happy couple that i see in front of me that wants to emerge that wants to come out yes they're going to come out i just want to know that you're not going to run to another woman every time we might have a disagreement because that's not how our relationship works as you're learning how to communicate and as you're learning new ways to not argue to listen to each other which one of the big things...
is when he says i'm not getting my point across you gotta find space to let him speak but on the same rate michael you have to understand that she is trying to figure out how to trust you and even though your words are saying something she's really looking at your actions i feel like this is the most we talk to each other like not at each other yeah in a long time yeah me too that's it like we were in the beginning in the beginning we talked about everything in the long term no this is the first step you got a long journey ahead of you yes sir on today's

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we all met a 35 year old man named quinn who do you blame for all this i blame both my mother anzo he grew up with a lot of confusing messages about who his real father was i didn't have nobody no guidance yes you did his mother veronica just recently got in touch with a man named joe responsibility veronica veronica i'm your child i can't take possibility for that and even though joe was never in quentin's life shut up still the mother no i'm not gonna shut up no no no i am so this is my time here this is my time no he asked me a question boy she believed joe was quentin's real father all along if joe was so concerned about quentin joe should have been looking for clint special guest author and activist karama brown was backstage watching everything there is so much pain that is built up in this relationship veronica you are hurt and you are defensive because of that hurt this...
relationship has to be repaired no matter what the results are because that's the only way that you all are going to grow and be better because at the end of the day your son is crying out that he's hurting and i can see in your eyes the way you're talking veronica that you are hurting right now too joe was here and said he carried a picture of quentin with him all these years you carried a picture what about carrying me how about that if i knew where you was at i would thought i would be there you didn't know how to reach your mother i got four kids i would never let them go a day without me never it was time for these long overdue paternity test results you think you look like joe i also don't see the resemblance to find out the truth that has been hidden for over 35 years in the case of 35 year old quentin joe you are not uh so okay okay wow this chapter is my clothes now calm your voice down what did i say mama i trusted you though there were a lot of unsettled issues to be dealt with this is a big moment and quinton i want to be here for you and i also want to be here for you veronica to

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you all how to take this truth and turn to something where you all can start the process and journey to heal and get to a better place so caramel went to speak to quentin immediately after the

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on a video call i don't know how to have spanish just hearing those words you're not fathers just like a whole bunch of pent up anger just just came up man...
listen it makes sense it makes sense you kidding me you have been holding on to this pain and you got to a place where you were able to put it into this nice compartment in your mind and in your body and say you know what i can deal with this and then in this one moment it got reopened and so it's okay for you to feel what you're feeling right now it's okay for you to be pissed right now because you said something very powerful and i want you to know what you said was not only true for yourself it was going to help so many other people you were a child when your mother said this you were a child you have nothing to do with it at that point a very emotional veronica joined the call i know that you might not know how and no one's expecting you to do it today or turn into a genie and make it happen right now what your son is acting asking is if you will actively take the steps every day to figure this out because him dealing with this question is killing him inside and i know it's killing you too veronica was afraid her son might cut her out of his life are you nervous about that with quentin and your grandkids i am angry that that is a human emotion i am human i'm not perfect because the old me i probably done something bad you know but quentin

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ed an incredible amount of forgiveness and compassion i will never stop loving my mother i i would never stop wanting her to be around my kids because they love her medicine i love her veronica he has now...
committed that you will be in his life and in his children's life so you can release that fear but now you've also committed veronica to doing the work for your son so that he can start healing we thank caramel for working with his family i'm gonna get back with you all very soon so we can continue this conversation i think it's the first step okay we wish everyone the

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