Tesla now fits Uberturbines & Pirellis to the Model 3 P. Is this a step forward or a step back?Feb 23, 2022
hi i'm john and welcome to
thisweek we went to see r simons one of britain's leading independent electric vehicle retailers here is richard the owner taking a look at his new 2021
model3 , now the car was fresh off the boat the day before from california it sailed to southampton and richard went there to pick it up
thisis his collection video you can watch the clip and if you want to watch the full video we have included the link in our description below but a couple of days after Richard picked up his car he kindly invited us to drive it and also to see one of the major changes that happened to the 2021
modeland that is the wheel and tire package now looks quite different to the existing wheel, but there are also other changes that you may not be aware of, so we're going to look at this in much more detail in this video and we'll do it for a test drive to see If there's any difference in the road since the 3 Performance E model was first released in mid-2018, it was fitted with a 20-inch diameter by eight-and-a-half-inch-wide wheel called a turbine and the tire that was used has been the much appreciated Michelin Pilot Sport 4s but now all of that has changed the styling of the wheel has gone to what is now called the super turbine or the outstanding turbine if you want to translate that literally some people may have a different opinion on that, but that's completely subjective the main difference with the wheel is we've gone from a 20 inch by eight and a half inch wide rim to a nine inch wide rim the tires have also changed from the michelins and now we've gone to pirelli p zeros so the first thing to point out is that the p0 is actually not just a single tire it is a family of tires and it is very important to understand exactly what p0 is equ Looking at a car to appreciate how it will perform when we take a closer look at the tires that are fitted to this new model we can see that it is a PZ-4 so it is the most recent Perelli P0.
There are also a few other markings on the side of the tire that give us an idea of how it will perform. michelin should wear better than p0 than the other brands in tire traction and temperature and both pirelli and michelin have the highest rating there so traction is the best grip and temperature is the way they it can withstand heat build up and around the other side of the tire there are a few more marks it's something
teslaowners are quite familiar with it shows that the tire has been designed specifically to fit a tesla what the manufacturers do of time is a closely guarded secret, but at least we know that it has been developed specifically for these vehicles and we also see here the preli elect logo that identifies proley tires developed for ultra-high performance electric and plug-in vehicles and that means they can withstand t The extra load and also have less rolling resistance, so they give you better range and, p Last but not least we see the pncs logo which is pirelli's noise canceling system it is very similar to the foam found in michelin tires it is designed to reduce noise and any roughness from the road rim that will be transmitted to the cab now there is a more important marking that we haven't seen yet which is the rim size and you may not think this is important because it is the same size as before a 235 35 20 tire but Going
backto what I said earlier about changing the rim size, this means we're using the same tire size as before but on a wider rim, so what does that mean?
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tesla now fits uberturbines pirellis to the model 3 p is this a step forward or a step back...
There are standard recommendations for matching wheel widths to tire widths, so with a two three five millimeter wide tire like this, the ideal width for the wheel would be eight and a half inches, which is what we used to be now. We've gone to a nine-inch wheel, which means the two wide five-inch tires are very slightly stretched on the wheel. Stretching can be done for a number of reasons. One looks here are some extreme examples. Another is in competition where you might want to make the sidewall a little stiffer to make turning a little sharper in the car, but in a road car stretch is not normally recommended, so why Tesla? did you choose to go this route?
Well we don't really know but if you look at the old wheel and tire compared to the new wheel and tire you can see here that there is a big difference and it makes a difference in handling maybe it makes a difference in handling too the ease with which it brakes the wheels, there is also another difference we want to point out between the existing michelin tire and the new p0 tire the amount of tread width it has now even though the tire is 235mm wide, that doesn't actually tell you how wide the tread is because it may be a different measurement and we run a pretty crude comparison here but you can go to an American site called tire rack where they have run a lot more measurements over a period longer time and you can search for a specific tire and find out a lot more information about it in terms of weight, rim width and all sorts of other data that you don't even i knew they existed on rims so check out tyrak.com if you're interested in that sort of thing, if you're not but have a hard time sleeping then go check out tyrant.com because i think that will make you go right off the bat now one last measurement we thought we would carry out before testing the new car is to weigh one of the old wheels and tires and one of the new wheels and tires so first up scales is the existing turbine wheel with the michelin pilot sport 4s and second is the new uber turbine and as we can see it weighs well over a kilo and most of it is going to be on the rim itself the tires are roughly similar weights so if you were hoping to save a bit Weight with the new uber turbines, sorry to disappoint you, well we put the wheels
backon their respective cars and now it's time for a test drive.
It is worth mentioning that we brought out the upgrade model before. 3, we pulled a previous performance of the model 3 with the michelins so we can have a direct comparison between the two tires, besides the new wheel package, both cars should be the same, so this is the best we can do with a direct comparison, so I definitely think the steering feels a little heavier and because it may be the tires obviously um i i fi I find I feel more of the road through the steering wheel with this and I feel more confident I can feel the little ripples are more so now this is what I'm saying about potentially if you stretch a tire slightly you have a little less compliance so it would feel more on the road yes but now that main no it's necessarily bad thing you know but d depends on what style of riding you're doing if you want comfort you don't really want that I mean this is less comfortable on the
pirellisand I say that assuming the suspension, damping and rates spring and it's all the same yeah if it's just the tires this is more flexible and less compliant so yeah I mean it's been a good test drive of the updated 2021 model 3 performance I'd say overall It feels very similar but there's definitely something different about the tires and you can feel the trail more through the steering, which can be a good thing, but for some people that might be a little off.
This test was carried out on public roads and we could not. to really put pressure on the tires so this was more about how they felt and how comfortable the car was we will be looking at the michelin vs pirelli debate again when we hit the track in a future video so stay tuned in the meantime i would like to thank richard simon s and his team for providing the cars and all the hospitality. I would also like to thank you very much for watching. Please click like and subscribe. If you've enjoyed it, we really appreciate your support.
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