Supreme Court Sets New Limits On Affirmative Action | The View
Jun 30, 2023The Supreme Court has overturned a 45-year-old precedent ruling that it is unconstitutional for colleges to consider race in admissions. Now the 14th Amendment is supposed to promise equal protection, but if everyone were truly treated equally, we wouldn't have had to implement
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, so we wouldn't have had to get it right, people wouldn't have had to march, beg, receive hoses and all those things that people did to balance us with everything else going on in the country, so what is you and me? I want you to meet the two people who have been bringing this up for many years and who have been trying to make this go away.Edward Bloom and Abigail Fisher. Yes, you too have been trying to get rid of
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. Why do we scare you? Who are they? I don't know why we scare you. Abigail Fisher claimed that at the University of Texas at Austin I believe her place in her class was taken by a black person, but we later learned that she simply did not do it. I don't have the qualifications, yeah, um, and the black person had them, and the black person had them, and the legacies had them, and the athletes, yeah, well, that's the other thing, if they're going to get rid of a Dude, well, I don't think that was the case. get rid of this Legacy Summers just did this, so yeah, universities are now changing the way they're going to account for this because people don't, it's not lost on the population that there are problems with the way they treat people in this country, so Amherst has moved on to get rid of Legacy um, you're also seeing, I think, and Sonny, correct me if I'm wrong.I was reading something in Texas where, regardless of race or whatever you call it, they took the top 10 percent. of every school in Texas and allowed them automatic acceptance into the state schools and what that did is we already know that the communities are segregated, so you're counting every school, which means that then you have a high percentage of black communities and browns that automatically get OK, so there were ways around that that we see people getting creative with to make sure they take that into account. The Legacy thing bothers me a little because you know I was the first in my family to go to college and then Obviously I have cousins who followed me, but there were no Harvard graduates in my family, my father was a truck driver, my mother was an operator of sewing machines, you know, so there wasn't any Legacy that irritated me a little bit athletically, but the other thing that would What I can say about this is that it influences what they're talking about on the right about post-society. -racial situation in which we live, you know, because we elected a black president, they think that racism is over, it's not like that and that's what bothers me. about this about this about going backwards and also what bothers me is that what will be the next homosexual marriage.
I mean, they want to get rid of abortion rights, which they've pretty much done now, it's going to be gay rights. Marriage equality was codified by the Senate, which is important. because you can't take it back now, but they're trying to do something and the states are trying to target it, but yeah, sure, I want to acknowledge that people are really passionate about this and when something changes, that's already been implemented. for 40 years that can be scary. I offer a slightly different perspective. I think diversity is always a noble goal and it's always something we should strive for is representation, but I think we need a system that looks more at the full spectrum of diversity.
So, for example, you know a black student who comes from a billionaire family and they all have an advanced degree. I wouldn't necessarily say you should get preferential treatment over a white student first in your Appalachian family, um, yeah, exactly Joy, who has the grades too and what they say in this decision and what we're going to have to look at is how is implemented, it doesn't mean that students can't in their personal statements talk about their lived experience with race, I think that's incredibly important and has more weight now as many schools are pro-growth and look at the evidence standardized, so I think there is still a way for the most vulnerable and the most disadvantaged students to have their cases heard, but I think we have to look at the whole equation again, there was actually one statistic that blew me away.
Harvard has almost as many students from the top 0.1 percent, not one percent of income earners, as from the bottom 20, that's an inequity that I think has to be and another inequity at Harvard. is that 70 percent of legacies are white, right, and you know, of course, yes, and I will say that this could have been worse, it's already horrible, worse, but it could have been worse because when you read the opinion, at less Judge Roberts concludes and says. um, in this opinion, nothing in this opinion should be interpreted as prohibiting, as Alyssa just mentioned, colleges from considering an applicant's discussion of how race affected their life, whether through discrimination, inspiration or Otherwise, race-blind admissions are not required and I believe what I experienced.
The experience of a white kid in Appalachia or maybe on a potato farm in Idaho or Brooklyn is different in this country for a black student, whether that black student is rich or not, because this country was founded on slavery and Justice Sotomayor I think said it very Well, she said that we live in a society where race has always mattered, yes, and continues to matter, so, in my opinion, pretending that it is no longer an issue exacerbates the problem. . If you look at a place like California, affirmative action was dismantled in California on the same day. in 1998, the next year, 50 percent of blacks and Latinos were no longer in those institutions, yes, it's gotten smaller and smaller since affirmative action was eliminated, so that's a problem.
I also want to read something Clarence Thomas apparently said. oh God, he doesn't know what diversity is, that's what he said, and that's why he doesn't understand it well, let me stop you on this question, Judge Thomas, could your mother and father vote in this country because they had the 14? The amendment actually had us on equal footing, they would have been able to vote and you know why that changed because people came out and made a change, if we didn't have to do it, no one would do it if they want to get hit by water.
Nobody, but that's what people did to get the vote. So when you say you don't know what diversity is, I say you're full of it and I think it's really important. I think it's very important to note that I'm Sorry, my headset is buzzing. I think it is very important to keep in mind that something that you will have noticed a lot will be that the group that has been most successful in accessing diversity initiatives is white women, yes, of course, that is the group that has been most successful, so We are talking about her not being safe, that is something against white women, let's be clear that it is just a fact, so when we talk about receiving preferential treatment, we have to consider if we are now also going to take away a legacy .
Sports, what about people with disabilities? What about people with disabilities? I mean, I think my kids, whose parents give a lot of money to the institution, yeah, they name a wing after someone and then the kids come in, so why my question is why is this just about race? , but this is, this is why I said what's scary because you're talking about people busting their asses and getting a little help because if you're a black kid, like we said, if you're a black kid. or an Asian kid or a Native American kid that comes from your experience, they're taking it into consideration because you've worked your way up there, you've been able to listen, and they're saying, let us help you up because we see where you are.
Now that we're headed we want to help you and it's been harder for us and I'm sorry that people don't agree with that. My father always told me that you had to work twice as hard to get half as far in this country and that is still the real joy. brought in because Asian American students felt they were losing spots due to efforts to attract more black students, but this really created legacies to get out Legacy is out of here, but there is a Washington Post poll that says more than six out of every Ten Americans oppose the use of race and college admissions, yet an equally strong majority favor efforts to boost racial diversity on campus, so it always matters.
I think most Americans agree that there has to be representatives, but when you have a judge who says something as ridiculous as I do. don't do it right, it just makes a kid, an Asian kid, a Native American kid, a black kid, feel like you don't matter, like you don't, you don't understand why my fight is hard or your fight or your fight You know what? Will this lead to there soon being no women in universities?
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