Supra vs Cayman vs M2 - Best usable sports car? | Everyday Driver TV Season 6

It doesn't really matter if you've driven the

supra

or not, you already have an opinion. I know you have it. If you are a car enthusiast and have searched the internet once in the last six months, you have an opinion on whether the super is good or not, latoya and bmw started the project, their collaboration focused on two very important cars, the z4 targeted the boxster, the

supra

was directly behind the caiman, they had to do a lot to get this car back because they knew everyone would have an opinion on it, but we have the two reference cars that you see every day, we do a tv show podcast and YouTube channels dedicated to great car driving adventures and we help you find a car you will love, subscribe and press. the bell so you don't miss anything this is the porsche 718 km s the third generation of the

cayman

in the most powerful version and it is here because this is the reference point that toyota chose for itself the nomenclature 718 is historic with the 550 the 718 from the '50s, this channels all those cars stylistically speaking and also as a way of introducing the flat 4 engine into the Porsche 718, they took the second generation Cayman, which was a beautiful car and just stiffened it up a little bit, the surfaces They are actually flattened, they are not so swollen, what it does is make the whole car look flatter, wider and longer, and the interior, which you could say, is boring, but I think Porsche wants its cars come back to a more classic look, they will still be relevant and look great. good for longer this is a 80 90 000 car with the interior material of a gti everything else is good and you start driving and you don't realize it but this is the competition bmw m2 the competition is just bmw , this is how we should I built the car first even though BMW has the z4 to match the supra.

This is your

best

dedicated enthusiast hard riding platform. I love the aggressive and purposeful look of this car. The seating position on this one is quite a bit higher and the cabin. It is very familiar, you will see the instrument panel with the same type of shapes. The m2 competition has added this very attractive, fully digital gauge cluster, which feels like the old traditional watches, it feels really high-end. Everything else here is a revised version. bmw series 2 because of course this is a bmw series 2, we are here today to compare two bmws in one part. I'm kidding, it's the supra, the return of the supra.

Toyota really wants you to know how much of a Toyota this car is. The problem is that there are signs, banners and metal stampings showing that it is a BMW back in 2012. Tata San, the chief engineer of this car was sent to BMW to work on a

sports

car project, the ft-1 concept everything was seen. through crazy vents and arches and as they put that style on this smaller body you end up with these weird strakes and cuts that aren't actually

usable

vents, the more you look at it the better it gets and when you stand next to it It has an for the whole day and you still don't slip.

I love a flat six, don't get me wrong, but the power coming out of this one you would think is only 350. When this turbo hits, you go, this Cayman is just as fast as those other two cars, but it doesn't feel as powerful now. , feels lighter on his feet than the other two, but feels more like they have more of a hammer hidden somewhere. This just feels like all the power you'd ever traditionally expect with a Porsche Flat 6. You have to rev the more power you give it, the higher the rev band goes, the more you really find the power that's there with these turbos that are no longer there.

We are in the land of turbos now there is no waiting, there is power all the time. The midrange now that means it doesn't have as much character up top, in fact it lacks character when you get close to the redline, but there is power in whatever gear you're in when you need it and if you hold onto it. In boost, which is what sport mode and sport plus will really do for you, there is always power, the revs increase when you put it in sport mode and of course you have the over boost function. I'm one of those people who loves sound.

I love it because of its history. I love it because it differentiates the gators from the 911. From an objective usability standpoint, this Flat 4 is better than the Flat 6. You have power more often, it's more reliable in its output, it's more powerful, these are all things Well, you just lost some fun, it's like the life of the party grew if the kids had a solid job, it became reliable and consistent and you're glad, but you miss the old days, the engine. It's exclusive to the

cayman

, but it has brakes from the 911 Carrera, it has a steering rack from the 911 turbo, like the m2 we have here, it's a six-speed manual, but it's by far the

best

manual transmission, it just feels right every time. time it is inserted. gearing gives you that solid security the shift lever movements are very positive the heel tip is really perfect this is one of those six speed gearboxes that makes you go yes I should have gotten the manual interestingly these three cars They have parts taken from other cars to build them, BMW has mastered the art of putting all their parts into one car and making something amazing.

The traditional m2 as it came out had what was called the n55 engine which was an older engine for bmw, now it has the s55. a different engine than the original bmw m2 has a different engine than the bmw m240 has a different engine than the bmw z4 and the super we have with us someone at bmw simply takes darts from the engine and throws them at the product plate is no longer up to 405 horses of force with twin turbos in this engine. Honestly, I'm delighted with the power and I think BMW is attacking us. I think they still don't report the engine power because it feels like a lot more power than you would ever believe. a big personality that actually increases in power towards the top of the red band, which is typical of a naturally aspirated engine.

This m2 maintains that, but I'll also tell you this, it doesn't feel faster than the supra, it's a little crazy. It should feel faster than the supra, it doesn't. The competition m2 has a manual transmission. There is a slightly rubbery disconnect on the shift linkage, but I think the spirit of the car is better suited with the manual transmission. Strangely, I don't feel the same. about the supra, now I'm not slamming Toyota for this, I mean they are one of the biggest car manufacturers in the world. They probably could have made a supra themselves, but they wanted someone who already had a good inline six engine, it's the b. -58 which is found in other cars and I think Toyota is misleading us with this car as well.

This is an engine that is rated depending on whether you think BMW with the z4 or Toyota with the supra has 335 horsepower or 385 horsepower and they. You are both wrong, this specific supra is owned by a guy who owns a racing performance shop. Turns out they are doing some dyno testing on one of their cars and as a joke, with less than 100 miles on it, they just thought to put the super on and Look What It Does 400. I know everyone is going to ignore it and bemoan it. the loss of the 2jz engine, but here we are with this BMW engine every time I drive the Supra.

I'm always glad BMW and toyota teamed up to do this, it has a single turbo, 3 liter inline six cylinder bmw, the m2 has a twin turbo and yet it feels more ready to shoot you down the road in all the time than the m2 engine when I first read that. Toyota had chosen an automatic transmission for its car. I had to bite my tunnel. They surely know what they are doing right. In fact, they know it. We have this ZF 8-speed automatic that can be found in almost any car you can buy now. However, this remains.

The best tune up of this CF transmission I have ever used is almost as if the Toyota transmission had been tuned like a PDK. I can think of myself as amazed at how well it changes every day. Covercraft offers it to the

driver

. Use the code every day to get 10 off. your order even though the z4 shares a chassis with that supra, this m2 competition i think is the best focused

sports

car that bmw makes right now, the problem is that bmw is traditionally a sedan manufacturer even though it has made many twos. doors over the years this is shaped like a sedan, isn't it?

You can add two more doors. Call it a grand coupe. BMW engineers have taken the old M2 normal and the rear axle subframe is no longer attached to the car with rubber bushings. It is bolted directly to the chassis, they have also stiffened the entire front end of this car and improved the steering rack, it feels like a luxury car made for handling even though it is a good looking sports car, it is a tough car but the problem is an immediate initial change of direction, there is a throb, a small throb and then the car turns, it is bigger and heavier than these other two cars and you can feel it, you actually sit significantly higher even with the seat so low as possible.

Wow, I'm sitting pretty high in this car now, that makes my visibility downright excellent, so a larger car with a higher seating position just doesn't feel as engaged or precise or dedicated sports car as the other two. , but of course this is the Solo one that is not a dedicated sports car chassis, you have to lay it down and hold your line and it sticks, but the wheels don't tell me what the road surface is doing. I don't feel those small mid-corner adjustments as much. are here, it's a problem BMW has struggled with since they dropped their fantastic power steering racks, this m2 for all its excellent dynamics and how well it grips a corner doesn't really tell you anything here, there's just no information that you can do.

Try harder, but you didn't get any more information about your problem, as a result you have this false steering, a heavyweight that doesn't tell me any information about what the tires do. Porsche removed the steering rack from the 911 turbo. big daddy and put it in this car, it's still electromechanical but interestingly I no longer have any problems with the electric power steering. I feel the undulations of the road. I feel the suspension flex after completely numb steering feel. bmw m2 this alligator overwhelms you with great information and granular details about the rotation of the car this car is delicate oh it's precise by throwing it in a corner you can find the mid engine works for you that initial turn is great but what i What I like most about the Cayman is how you can use the steering with the weight transfer of the car.

It has all the best qualities of a mid-engined car, where you can put your foot in it quite early and you can get the rear to settle down. for you and help with rotation in a way that a front-engined car only wants to spin the rear. It's really hard to get this car completely out of shape now, of course, you can look at the corner, come on, that's perfect, just under 3000 pounds. with a manual transmission it is the correct recipe and it is the bell because it is where the weights are located the mid-engine configuration has lightened the front of this car so much that it is now the car with everything, now the wheelbase alone does not it's what makes a car drive well here you have something that's about the size of the alligator but you're sitting on the rear axle that completely changes not only the way you see the world but also the way the car turns the wheelbase It's the same as the alligator but the weights are in a different place.

Here I feel the weight transfer more, but there is very little understeer. They wanted this to spin and it does. It's almost impossible to achieve mid-engine rotation in a car that doesn't have a mid-engine, and Toyota actually has it. close somehow bmw has built for toyota a car with better steering feel than the one they make themselves, the corner entry is much better than that of the m2 but it doesn't have anywhere near the response of the game that it follows precisely and it What's great is that it has a lot of that precise mid-corner tuning that the Cayman has because BMW started with this coupe.

It is the most

usable

car of the three. You can do the track thing, you can do the commuting thing with this car and for that reason. I love m2 competition. It's a fantastic vehicle that does it all and I think it may be the best car of its type on sale right now. This two plus two, almost dead sedan, has a hidden hot car shape. The Cayman has improved even more. It is the slowest. of the three but it's the most fun, it's hard to find lightweight pullable cars in modern times, we have so much safety stuff going on now that they've gotten heavier and less informative, the alligator is still talkative , it is still a car that feels light and ready to have funtoyota knew what they were doing they knew they had a legacy and a history to reflect on and they would be vilified if they didn't do something right at no point should you think it's an automatic and I don't want it because it doesn't drive that well not true if anyone He tries to convince you that he is not your friend I love that this supra is more than you expect the gearbox is better the engine is more powerful than it says the management actually has information that BMWs lack at all times.

This car surprises me. I'm not really sure what would affect more people if I said the best BMW made as a Toyota or the best Toyota made right now. It's a BMW, you're equally offended, I know what you're thinking, wait a minute, jackets and hats, wasn't it a beautiful sunny day? It's a beautiful sunny day, but it's also fall in Utah, so it's a little chilly today. Be careful, we have three amazing cars, four star cars, all three, I would buy any of these cars if you bought it, I would say congratulations of course, but we have to decide, okay, so we have to decide, but before we I want nothing you have to think about where these cars come from, they have taken parts from all their brothers to make these cars, you have to decide which one is best for your driving style and what suits you best, yes, yes, but otherwise , choose one and you will be doing very well, the most important thing I want to say here is supra versus caiman, it is very close to being equivalent.

The only place I debate whether the super should win or not is because I don't think the alligator is 15 20,000 more. Expensive car, I don't think it's right and I can't believe I'm going to say this because the m2 competition is fantastic, it is and somehow it's third because someone has to be third. I went faster in that car on every trip. -for what we had, yes, I can feel it, yes, but then there are these other two that are just pushing me away. I'm surprised I love the supra so much. I've never felt the alligator dynamics on this because it's the same wheelbase they have. close, they really did, but then again, there's this m2 right here that I would gladly take.

It's very finely cut, but the m2 was brilliant. Can you feel that driving them one after the other makes the conclusion more difficult? Can you feel that this is one of By the way, the hardest days no, it's not like I did it today. Come on, this is not a difficult day. It's difficult to make decisions. But this is not a difficult day. The m2 competition now does heroic things that only sports cars should be able to do. What holds them back is the lack of a genuine sports car chassis. I like the ease of use.

It's fast. I wish the gearbox looked like the one in a Porsche. I'm being very picky when it comes to finding those disadvantages for the car because the truth is it's the M2. It's a fantastic car that's ready for your day at the track and the carpool lane even though the super focused on the Cayman, this is still the benchmark, it's still better, but it's not much better, and if you're talking about new pricing, that's super compelling. I choose this as my second car, my second car because of the wheelbase and it does similar things to what the Cayman can do.

This is an amazing car. They have done a very good job. Okay, two companies work together. Well, it has the Toyota badge. and it's primarily a BMW, but Toyota got the best car in the deal.