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First of all, I love seeing you again, hello old friends, hello old friend, old friend. I was watching a clip of you and I on TRL and like, oh my god, almost 20 years ago and you know you were like, I love 4 non-blondes. I love Janis Joplin I'm passionate about things I hate the Indian judges of life I write my own stuff I think, "Oh my God, this could have been yesterday, yeah, and nothing's changed, nothing's changed, just the bad cop in my house , that's all that's changed." We'll have some motherhood in the music, let's go back for a second.

Ok, take me back to those times when I met you. I feel like I welcomed you to MTV as a pop artist. Honestly, you felt like my first friend. the person I saw the most was funny he was a wild man I look at those suits and I say yeah I'm glad I was wild I was young I didn't care about anything I was just out there and musically when you came on the scene I mean it was like that you know Christina , there were limpets, there was Eminem, there was and you know, where did you think you fit in or where were we?

Musically, I've never fit in anywhere. kind of like all my first kiss, that tape I bought was yes, I said kiss, that tape was mary j blige, my first vinyl was Mamas and the Papas and my first love was Jon Bon Jovi and I sang opera, so I've always been in a mystery bag, so I didn't know, but it was a really fun time coming out because it was kind of like I slipped into the end of real record deals and artist development and time to find myself and a real record company that felt like a family that would go up and down with you, so it's cool, it was a good time to start and use your time now that you look back and go on, man, like I was a real pioneer, it's really true if you look back among the type of you.

I know Anthem Women and Powermate and what we've seen from Gaga and Katy Perry and everyone who came after. I mean, you're really the first to do that. Well, I was the first in that kind of decade, but before that it was Blondie and Linda and Madonna and so many other women. Bette Midler was a pioneer. I mean, there's Joan Jett, so I was probably a breath of fresh air at the time because she was very badass and not tied to the earth. like a helium balloon with a hole in it, so yeah, I mean, I took a machete and went my own way on purpose.

I did it on purpose, but there were a lot of cool things happening. Then there are a lot of cool things happening. Now it's fun to still be a part of this because it always has been, it's been 20 years, so every two years it's like, oh, this girl is going to come in and take you out like you're done. I say, first of all. "That's not how it works, this is the music business, everyone can win at the same time and good for it, that's great, that's wonderful, so it's been an interesting journey, having your eighth studio album come out, it hurts human being, tell me, it's me." I've asked a lot of people in my time to collaborate with me and I get a lot of them and this time yeah, I'm an M on the last record, that's it, yeah, it was hard, yeah, it was great.

Nate Ruess was a good one, a good one, but I asked Mary Jo to flat out take me down, you just know I'm good without iccha on you. It's surprising that no one acts like Mary Jo Shh, yeah, this time I have all the green lights, so I got to sing with Chris Stapleton, which will be one of the greatest honors of my life. I got to try writing songs with Billy Joel. I was able to work again with Dan Reynolds from Imagine Dragons and Ryan Tedder and do a collaboration with Khalid. and rabl and cash cash and it's everywhere and it's like that and there are songs that I can't listen to without crying and I'm excited about it, they came together without me knowing that I was making an album because I never stopped writing.

I went on tour, I released an album. I went on tour. I went on tour. I continued with her. I approached her and suddenly thought maybe I should put out an EP because I have these songs. I think that's great. I thought not. I have 20 songs. I need to put on an album. How do you tour with beautiful trauma and go around and then have all these epic new things inside you waiting to play? Yes, yes, now we are slowly introducing it. songs in the set, I mean, you're on tour right now, you played here in Los Angeles last night and we're going up north to Northern California, probably tonight or tomorrow, where are you with that tour?

You're waiting for it to end and it doesn't. We're on our second US leg and then we're going to Europe for the summer stadiums and that's a lot of fun, it's different, each leg is like a different animal, so no, we're not done, so we'll do Rock and Rio in the fall for the first description. people at home who have never seen a

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show, I mean, I know you do a lot, how physical it is, it's probably the most physical thing I think you could do besides being a full-blown athlete. I have the best of the best on stage. with me I have, I'm just very lucky, I've had one here, you're swinging in the RAF.

I'm putting on tours and I'm rocking and flying and people get down on me about it, but it's so in a concert experience it's so much fun and I'm having fun and there's no way that if you're at my show you're not going to have fun even if there are 10,000 people. in an arena I can choose the boy who had to take his sister no matter where he said why it was yes, he's like a magnet. I can be eliminated by the only person who isn't and how does that make you feel as a child? I kind of filled up all the time.

I would keep going back to like don't smile don't smile don't do it get back into your system mom that's a really fun thing to do don't do it don't smile how being a mother has changed you I guess as an Artist, I mean you always wrote your own stuff and in As for your motivation to put pen to paper, are you thinking more consciously now about these songs you're going to hear? Do you write to them through your music or is it still for you? very narcissistic um I have completely changed since I became a mother nothing I am much more open I accept myself much more I am much more reflective I plan more I have to find balance and I think about the world more and what we are leaving to these children and the direction in which we're headed so I guess change your music, but no I'm not writing songs for my kids, I'm not doing it because I feel like the best have done it.

It's already been written between the Beatles and the Dixie Chicks, no one needs to write and I really love the song, but kids, do you see a musicality? I know you sang all your life, I mean, you say since you can remember and I know your daughter sings. and I read it as if she was telling me you're like her kindergarten teacher and told her to stop singing. I mean, yeah, what do you see in your children's willow tree? It's interesting. She can sing but it doesn't faze her. all she wants to be an American Ninja Warrior that warped wall is tall is tall but she's about Jameson Jameson is a screw loose he's a ham sandwich he's in love with two of my dancers he's - okay ageless rough seas he's rich my daughter had a crush on my physical therapist on tour once since she was two right now my son has a crush on his fiancée both on my ancestor on tour so our family has been trying to break up his family for nine years this It's what happens on the

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tour the kid they're on tour with you oh yeah everyone brings their kids how do you think I don't know it's fun?

I like the noise. My band got together and bought Willow a drum kit for Christmas thinking that would make me mad, but I just like the noise, it's fun, you know, it's fun for everyone, even the younger ones that are on tour with us, because Children bring a lightness to the situation that would not otherwise exist, they make everything fun, they bring a lot of joy. their entertainment are considered willow does fundraisers it's just great and how scary how is your husband doing I mean he's great he's a good cop you're the bad cop he's a good cop until he shows up on social media what happens , she just likes to push the bear, I thought it was you who pushed the bear and so she would know that I bite the gods by pushing, how do you describe your relationship on social media?

What would you say about hate, love, hey, a place where love totally exists and where there are so many goods? Things have happened, but also threats to not share family things, never anything personal, showing pictures of the kids tonight just to get the flak after the latest criticism. I'm so tired of it, people are getting nastier and this year I think I'll probably take a break. I think I'll stop sharing my kids as much as I do. Why do you think it's about society? I noticed myself that it seems to be going in the wrong direction when it comes to simply giving.

It's a little more unpleasant, yes, I think people have forgotten their manners, but you, you, I know it's an injustice, it's your kryptonite, do you ever feel the need? Sometimes I think it's funny to just kill people with kindness so I'll go read your Instagram page and I'm like I have a daughter your daughter's age you play golf I play golf I also enjoy the martini at a sunset as you know , it would be friends, you know like never, I have never done it, never try to kill them. The closest I've come to that is if I'm in a grocery store and someone interrupts me I go to Turkey and they just let them out because they expect me to be super paranoid maybe they were looking for that's your middle finger that's a smile weird yeah that's the closest I've come to goodness so the new record is coming out and then how does this coincide with the tour I mean you will yeah, unfortunately my tours last for years C right, and me, this is the product Of every apophis, it's the fastest I've ever thrown.

I've been ready to release another album, so even though it's still this summer, the beautiful trauma tour is considered, the next tour I do after this summer, there will be a whole new group of monsters, take me home, one of the singles from the new album is like an immediate yes, like it was an immediate feeling of well-being under the director of the best, show them in the film during the video, yes, how. Is that coming? I'm lucky. I love the greatest showman. It's Willow's favorite movie. It has become my favorite movie. We've seen it a thousand times and then they remade the album.

All the songs are our favorites. Willow and I got to sing the songs that It was amazing and then it was time to make the video and well, Michael Gracey, we need me to want some of that magic, right? And it was nothing, it was much more adult and inventive than the things I've done, so that was it. about it, I love dancing a lot, a lot of dancing in your life, I know your husband and a lot of physicality and dancing, no, but I mean only the physical things, you are dangerous company, drunken dances, you know I don't want to. to see that no, I don't ever want to see that, no, where is he, anyway, where is when this happens, this checking, carrying, preparing the kids, walkthroughs of how you've been able to maintain such a high level of physicality.

I mean, you're the best. showman thank you you really are you are the best showman one of them you very proud I am very proud I am very good at what I do and that is what I do I am an artist and I love it and I still want to get to the top Myself and I push it and honestly, I want to say that I am very proud of our group, my dancers, my band, the lighting team, the editors. Our whole world is the best. I think you don't toot your own horn through social media like most pop stars or celebrities do.

These days, that's a branding opportunity, you're not out there. I think you are one of perhaps the most underrated artists in music history. I'm almost referring to your show for the people of No. It's beyond anything they've ever seen before. Do you ever feel like this? like I've never asked a friend of mine to do an

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. I'm just not that guy yeah I probably got it on my late night show on NBC it probably would have been a thousand times better if I had balls like everyone all my friends like that I don't do that like I just don't care enough like that You may know that I live my life based on a set of standards and I almost feel that you are similar because you have been under the radar when I want to be like you, you just do it, I do it and the world fluctuates around you and catches up with you and then it goes.

Yes, I take advantage of the head. I just do what I do and what I do is. really cool, it's fun, it's fun, it'll be at seven at night, I'll be sitting in the makeup chair, I'm so exhausted my soul hurts and then because of the song, I think that's when my manager comes . comes in and says I have the most days ever at seven always at 9:05 you need a change in the song list play the song - - song ten man that's him amazing yeah you really are I wouldn't imagine dragons because me and my ten year old son -The old man dragged me into a disaster Jesus and crazy dragons.

I was so impressed by the program. You know there are people like us, so I'm so tired from seeing so many live shows and I thought I wouldn't go. but our kids bring us back into the fray and I went and saw Dan and I imagined dragons and I was blown away by that show, yeah, and your show playing a mammoth at a New Year's party like 10 years ago,was probably in this scenario. As big as we were sitting there and he had a big drum and that was all in the band and I was like, I don't know who this is, but they're amazing, right?

I love you for life. I feel like that's how it is. makes people see you that's what happens do you ever think about all the shows you do in all the stadiums all those to see me live to understand? Your shows are amazing I think no one will ever understand me unless you watch my show Yes, it's fun, it's like group therapy, but it's like a revival, it's fun, you seem so happy, do you like it? You never need a break, um, I have breaks. the way of hugs I get the best hugs I may be the cuddledest person I know people might find it interesting that you are the cuddly one you are a hugger yes that is very revealing oh my gosh but only with Willow and Jameson Oh any minutes literally perfect strangers oh my god my next tattoo will say Amen this is going to change your encounter increased dramatically.

People like you might wonder what's wrong with the people on the street? How do they react if they don't smell bad? I'm in, just go. Right there, why after so many years you no longer have to be. Do you know that your contemporaries are tired? Nobody wants to be tired. The fun of life. Who are you? How did you do it? I love it. What music do you listen to? Yes. I live, I am very interested in Rabil, why is it important to keep up with current music? I don't know if it's important to stay up to date because I'm still listening to Bob Marley mm-hmm and Lauryn Hill, but there is some interesting stuff and I don't think you should close your mind just because it makes you feel like you still like music that isn't enough for what you want.

I love it. You recently got a star near here on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, what was that? It was surreal. I brought my whole family. My mom always calls me and says: Why didn't you tell me you were on Ellen? Why didn't you tell me you did this? Why didn't you tell me you lost? another Grammy but everyone wanted to come and everyone was like, are you kidding me? you go to a star, so everyone came, we had a big party afterward, it was terrible, terribly embarrassing and very sweet, and if people walk by your star and Hollywood Walk of Fame they come here and visit us and stop by a second Maisie pink, what do you want them to think of you while remembering you as an artist?

I just wanted to come by and say there's a badass right there or I remember that song that helped me that's all you got a lot of people I'm sure your music has helped did they reach out to you yeah what is that that's the good side of Twitter and Instagram? There have been so many connections, you mean one example, I mean, every day. I watched your show last night. I cried all the time. There are three generations of us that came together and this song saved my life. Or knowing that you went through it too.

You know it gets graphic it's real it's very authentic no one is stupid it's me it's always straight to the point and then there are things that happen like I'll be on Twitter looking at my mentions while I do vocal warm ups every night to try to get in the present because the people take pictures and selfies in the stands and I can see who's there that night or if there's someone celebrating an anniversary, I'll write their name on my hand and say blah, blah, blah, and then one night. I read this and this mom said, Hey, I know you won't see this, but I'm here with my son Calvin, he's 9, his Down syndrome will be on the wheels, we check out the wheelchair section, he just beat cancer. and this is our celebration. and I'm just thinking here's a woman with a son who already has challenges who then had to go through cancer and now she's at my gig because this will make him happy and I do that thing where I fly 360 and I stopped my first stop is at the wheelchair section, so I don't know if I'm going to see it or not, but right before I take off I go, I go for you, Calvin, and I go and let you scream that I did it and I land on the wheelchair section and I look down and there's a woman going and I'm literally crying and Calvin waves and the moms like his mind explodes in his face and then I got to meet them on the next tour that I saw again. my mentions that night in the same stadium or in the same arena yeah, hello, we're back and I came out of the dressing room I said, look for Calvin, you have to find Calvin, so everyone went out, looked for grandma, Calvin, the mom , they came in, I hugged mom.

For about five minutes, Calvin met Jamison and they had this amazing Cowan's 15. Now we made him sweat, those are the products, those are the things I love. We're going to make a chair and you're tired. Maybe you don't need a song. Getting excited about moments like that is knowing that I'm putting all that together or that you'll see a sign that says I skipped chemo because of this, you stupid idiot, come back to stay well, thank you. I think people don't think that. Big stars like you assimilate to the minutiae of everyday life of everyday people, you are just a stop here and these bigger ones know the Staples Center, they would have no way of knowing anyone's individual story, they care more or less, but what you do is with those ways, those avenues, now with your phone in your pocket you can find out if you care enough and that's honestly the only thing that sustains me after all this time drives you, that's why you want to do it, That is what it is. what makes your life meaningful and then you can show it to your kids and say, hey, look what we did

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and she says, well, I raised enough money to rescue a sloth in Costa Rica and I say that's amazing, come on do this , look now, that's her name Alvin LOF, Beyonce, that's awesome, yeah, that's cool, it's another one named Aretha.

I feel like there's been a lot of discussion about mental health lately, a lot of discussion about suicidal depression. I have been very communicative. on our show about my own mental health journey and I think it's cool, you know, people aren't afraid to have those conversations, you've always been an advocate for things, hey man, let your flag fly, you know who you are , If that. What are your thoughts on the current state where you know young people are really struggling and have been struggling silently? Yes, I think I'm hopeful that the taboo of all this will go away because more and more people are talking about it.

I think talking about it is the most important thing and I know anxiety is the number one thing kids go through right now. Yes, for us, for my generation, I feel like it was depression, suicide and suicide. it's still very common, but now it's like it's coming from a place of anxiety and I understand that I completely understand and I've been depressed. I have anxiety. I overthink everything, but what I do is keep the right people around me and keep going. to therapy and kerri-anne. I have been in couples therapy almost all of the 17 years we have been together why something, a poem, a reason or are we still together because he speaks Polish, I speak Italian and she speaks both as if we don't speak.

We can't use the same language in our families or we come from broken families and we didn't have a model of how we are supposed to keep this family together and live this crazy life mm-hmm and there are no models, there is no book that tells how do it. do this so we can go to therapy and it will work. Who told you? It gave me more courage to know that it would be okay to do it and it also taught my best friend, my best friend, Laura, she was my assistant for five years and that she was going to quit and My thing at the time was that I was between 20 and 22 years at that time.

Mine was good, you can quit, but I can't, so we won't be friends anymore because I'll move on if you let me and then you leave. She told me no, you are my best friend, she is also gay, so she likes relationships in a deeper way and she says we are going to go to couples therapy. I said we're not going to go to couples therapy. We're not going to match shoes like we're going to couples counseling, so we went to couples counseling. Yes, it was my first counseling session since I was 14 and my mom put me with my best friend's assistant.

Yes, we went to couples counseling and she is my babies' godmother and I am her godmother, so with your husband it's just a page from that same therapist. Wow, she is amazing. I'll give you her name. I'm telling you she's amazing and you know. I recommend it to everyone. recommend therapy or journaling or writing similar songs for me. I have exercised so many demons just by putting it on paper. Yeah, let me go back to the new record for a second. Christ ableton's song. Love me anyway. I love Chris and I love the fact. that you could get anyone on a record and I love, you know, the Eminem from the last record, Chris Stapleton on this record, the tongue got the song, so I wrote the song in Nashville and I'm a difficult person to have a relationship with . m I have a very high bar for myself and a very high bar for others and that makes it very difficult to love myself and that's where that song comes from, if I am all these things, can you still love?

I'm going to be able to handle this so you're going to stay you're going to be with me I'm impossible you can love me through all of that all my mistakes and that's because I can Kenny I can I'm sorry you suck me yeah I can I will I will maybe you want to bring that back, Tom Zenk, but no, and then I thought, "Whoever sings, I hope your day is animal matter." Dan Womack has this song, I hope you dance. I dedicate it to my daughter and we sing it on the way to school every day and there is a boy who comes to the end and starts singing and that's how he makes the song sink into the depths of your heart. and break into a million pieces inside and I thought, well, who's my boy?

I need my boy, my boy is Chris Stapleton, it's the only record I play when I'm home, so I said, hey Chris, I met you at the country music club, oh boy. and also what I like about that is that I am a classical singer. I tend to scream a lot, especially at the end of a song, you let yourself go 230 on any song I do and I'm screaming and for this one the What I love about it is that no, I don't scream at all, I'm here all the time, I'm like that, just the base for him to just stand on his tiptoes to shine, that's beautiful and he shines.

I love you. Good to see you again thank you and thank you congratulations on a really amazing credible career we started promoting about you yeah seriously I can have that therapist number yeah you