Sam Heughan, Sophie Skelton & Richard Rankin Talk Season 4 Of "Outlander"
hello everyone welcome to Villa I'm your host Brittany Jones Cooper and today we're
talking all things
seasonfour of the stars drama continues a story of time-traveling 20th century dr. Claire Fraser in her 18th century Highlander husband Jamie as he tried to make a home for themselves in colonial America at the cusp of the American Revolution today I'll be joined by star Sam
Rankinbut first the trailer from
Outlanderdo you know it lies beyond those trees it's just the start of what America will become people who come here in their thousands hoping to live the American dream welcome to River on thank you auntie North Carolina offers wealth and prosperity I don't agree with keeping people as property in a lively wonder you know we must leave even our own towns perfect if I can make this a good land my presence here no can be felt by Orianna later that would be something William Stephen bonnets sir beware a travelers in these woods they're set upon by thieves and outlaws as savages here oh my god shouldn't she know the truth hello I have some news about your mother everything's in my power god Jamie it's a silver filling something that won't be invented 300 years this will lead us to fighting in another war we will be on the wrong side of history again I can't change or waddle with Ag Saturday during her summer you'd be a nightmare for us sometimes life takes unexpected tuns...
everyone put your hands together for Sam you and Sookie
Richardranken's how you guys doing today good thanks you have the best fans in television I really never
Outlandercomes people always show up that must feel really good especially going into
seasonfour yeah just to have that fan they've you guys have supported us so so long now and you know we're sorry about the drought Lander again but but it's amazing you know we're very lucky on this show that they are constantly supporting us and welcoming us and hopefully we don't mess it up this
seasonyeah thank you guys and we hope that the longer drought Lander is worth the wait it's a pretty epic
seasonso so the end of last
seasonwe see Sam and Claire kind of wash up on the shores of what is America so where do we pick up now in
seasonfour so Jamie and Claire are now in America and there were their extended family you know they have young human with them and and some of their their friends and shipmates and they're really trying to establish themselves and and actually find their way back to to Scotland but very quickly they realized that that America is gonna become their new home and it's a land of opportunity but also it's a land that has a lot to work through and a lot of issues and and there's some surprises there as well you know sort of trying to
talkaround spoilers but yeah it's very much this
seasonis about home for Jamie and Claire certainly and about...
them laying foundations for years to come what I love about Claire is that she knows the future so she knows that the American Revolution is coming so how does that impact how they're able to settle and make a new life yes she does and you know not only is it rewarding for her coming to America you know she has already become an American citizen and lived in Boston in the future but you know they're trying to make a change in Brianna's life and yet for Jamie it's certainly a way for him to have some sort of influence on her life in the future you know he wants to help build and mold America into the this new home and this great land and a land of opportunity and an equal sort of equal rights for people so yeah it's a way for him to certainly have some sort of influence on his daughter in the future that's why I love this shows the writing is so intricate and beautiful the fact that he's now centuries back trying to make his the life of his daughter better who's now living in the 1970s in Boston so tell us what she's up to yeah so obviously it's a very big contrast of a time we've kind of left the sixties and we're in that sort of very light-hearted vibrant 70s vibe for Brianna she's still sort of dealing with essentially the death of her mother you know she's sort of sent her back to the past and she doesn't know well she won't before she thinks ever see her again for Bri she's just trying to you know forget...
about it almost cuz really what reason mainly worried about is whether Claire even made it back whether she's safe whether she found Jamie whether they're happy if he moved on you know if they're even together but the
Outlanders be Mattoon a ringtone as the
Outlanderthe engine is gonna interrupt an interview that's fine it better be the
seasonfor one we're
talking about the vibrant 70s and that's pretty much the soundtracks yeah so breeze sort of you know she had this huge loyalty and love for Frank Kent studying history to kind of follow in his foot and sort of bond with him but now finding out her sort of new parentage she's sort of followed her gut and she's changed to engineering so she's now studying at MIT and does she stay in university or does he drop out she would never drop out that's a see it always she worked she will first degree good of course no partying no never no let's just strict dad yes yeah I mean whiskey's not an alcohol right no no you don't seem to think it is well Brie's mom isn't there she does have Roger so what role do you play in her life now in
seasonfour what well I'm just the other self Briana no well well Roger and Briana the I wouldn't say that he has huh not yet anyway or vice versa because the when you find them in
seasonfour they are they're kind of attempting a long-distance relationship and our world it's much lard larger and this xc70 transports not so easy...
even fallen cold so expensive time-consuming on a Sunday when you've got things like church and whatnot to be going to so I think a church again for the benefit of the American audience Church thanks for that you all enjoyed that about their boss can have loving their own separate leaves when you find them they start a
seasonfour I think Roger hasn't had quite time to grieve of the grief for the death of his father cleared and Briana had very much consumed all of his time and he got really wrapped up and and and all of that and all of the drama that was surrounding that and I think know when you find him the start of
seasonfour he's quite lost he hasn't Hawaiian kid he's not really sure which direction he's headed he hopes it's Briana but that's not necessarily gonna be the case because there are some hard those for them to overcome distance or maybe in one of them they're always obstacles and
OutlanderI mean just when you think things are cause you tears have dried we're gonna stop them again I did read something though that brie may be doing some time traveling of our own what change excuse me hi I'm Aiman are you going somewhere that makes long distance even worse doesn't it I mean we know from the end of
seasontwo that Briana and Roger can time travel because they hear the buzzing get the stones but whether they do or not is up in the air please don't go back that's just gonna make my life is so much more...
difficult so because we don't know anything for sure we don't want any spoilers we can speak in hypotheticals that's the word okay yeah so let's say that brie gets back and she gets to meet her father Jamie how do you guys imagine that going hypothetical hypothetically if they were to meet do you think would be a good meeting or a sentimental meeting or Oh she'd be mad cuz he wasn't there I don't think brie would be mad at Jamie I think she perfectly understands the complex to say the least situation that they were in I think it's an interesting topic though because I do think you know Brianna and Frank were very close and I think the idea of meeting Jamie would feel a slight betrayal in a way and also you know although you would want them to have this sort of big reunion and yes this kind of biological connection because they do share the same blood there is the element of you know breeze breeze 20 odd years old she's a stranger she's not his baby anymore she's a woman and they they really don't know each other and again they are from different times so they do have different views on things so if they were to me it might not be as smooth as one might to nicely answer - yeah and I think you know Jamie obviously has always wanted to be a father and you know he hasn't been able to Willie and and faith and and now Brianna as well so you know for him it's probably a bittersweet definitely hypothetically speaking good...
answers guys speaking of Jamie and Claire we've seen their romantic relationship evolve over the
seasons obviously from them getting to know each other - being in separate centuries - now they're back in a place where we can really see them in this committed loving relationship so how has that changed the intimacy and their dynamic going into the
seasonfour well like you said you know first three
seasons Jamie and Claire have always sort of been struggling to be together and fighting to be together and and now for once they're in the same place and and can actually really sort of enjoy each other's company and it's what they wanted you know for a long time to really be at home together and start to build this family and this life for themselves so it is lovely to be able to see them in some sort of domesticity in some domestic life but as you said it's
Outlanderso it doesn't really last long will we see their passion change or fizzle it's it's very dead now stale relationships I'm sorry guys steal for Brianna's sake I hope it's tail um no I mean you know this it's like this is a beautiful love story and certainly Jamie and Claire you know are always there for each other and and it's but very much part of their life so I think if it's in the books it'll be in the show hopefully good yeah clap for that yeah speaking of the books who all read the books clapping hands all right so we've got big fans so how...
much focus is there each
seasonto making sure that you sort of follow the timeline of the books because the readers are so loyal to that yeah I think as much as there's an element of trying to sort of keep you know keep the books is true for the book readers you know it's always difficult when you have your heart set on something and then it changes especially because the books have been around so long there is also that element of making it fresh and making it new and also you know TV things do you have to change a bit there's things in a book that work that on screen don't and it's but at the same time you know it is a time-travel thing so I think if the write has changed too much then you'd get to book eight or whatever anything oh we kind of needed that so I think the writers have a hard job in that they have to kind of have all the books in their mind at once because if they do want to chop and change something it does have a knock-on effect so yeah there's definitely you know if there are scenes that you might be disappointed on in the
seasonthat definitely are new ones to compensate so hopefully we do stick to the books you know as much as we can but I think what's great about this
seasonis that we do there's there's some surprises in there for fans are the books which i think is great because you guys know the books but there's some things in there that are also part of Dinah Gabaldon's world but you weren't...
expecting so um yeah I hope you I hope you like it I want to
talkabout this new world a little bit because at least in the first episode I saw you're dealing with all of these things in the American history like slavery and the native people and it's been interesting to see how Jamie and Claire navigate that they really are trying to stay on the right side of history so was that sort of interesting to explore cuz I I was really impressed the show handled it that way and they're they're big issues you know and I think they're they're big things to discuss but it's um it's very much part of the world they're in now and Jamie Clare always trying to to sort of circumnavigate history and trying to change history and um and we know this this great change coming and there's great things gonna happen but yeah they're trying to find their place in this new world and claireaussi is more is more sort of clued in to what's gonna happen but jamie is a man of his time but yet he's quite forward-thinking and certainly doesn't want any part of certainly the slavery side and so it's been a kind of learning curve for us as well as British people to learn about American history what would be the most interesting thing you've learned a turd about American history from doing the show Roger gets particularly involved and you know you find him you still very much happy and loving his life in Oxford obviously one of the most...
fascinating things that I think I'd learned was how to see dog face and Mohawk which is a hot one sir I just happen to have heard that one set one day yeah that's that's how you see dog fix and mohawk okay I'm going sir actually I learned a few words in Mohawk dez de which means stop just floating around on set you know we had a lot of them we had a lot of fascinations over there walking on
seasonfour I found them fascinating day sir yeah hugely fascinating so I have very much enjoyed that aspect of
seasonfour I mean so not so much about the American history sakes again obviously breeze sort of safe and happy in the vibrant 70s but we were saying early you know there's one of the characters in the book who originally was written as this sort of very light blonde a little bit ditzy and we've changed that to be a woman of color which i think it's a really nice change just to bring the sort of parallel between you know what Jamie and Clara almost in an awful way having to be okay with because obviously Claire wants to change this world and you know what was taken as sort of the norm at the time in terms of slavery is something there obviously we nowadays and it's time went on really resented and you know felt awful about and but there's nothing really that Claire can do because she can't you know she'd stick out like a sore thumb and then she'd be killed and then there's nothing to change into anyway because she wouldn't...
be there to do it so it's nice to show the parallel with BRE in terms of you know sort of having she was probably one of two people studying engineering at the time and it's her in this sort of african-american goal and I think it's really cool because it just shows how much time has changed and I guess it gives a little bit of hope in terms of what Jamie and Claire you know did do or could do how about you any interesting tidbits about American history you didn't know you know what I think our writers and producers were very very keen to research the Native American side especially and we as we as
Richardsaid we had a you know over a hundred Cree and Cherokee and I think all from First Nation people but they were from Canadore I think mostly but they brought this amazing culture and the similarities actually quite striking between you know what happened to the Scots and the clans in Scotland and to the Native Americans in America so I think Jamie certainly sees that parallel and there are two warrior cultures and have these traditions that that I think he respects and there's kind of this unwritten mutual respect between the two after you know what happens at first but yeah it's it was a really interesting culture to get to know about and it really brings a complete different flavor to to
outlanderthan we've seen before and it's set in South Carolina but you guys didn't film there right and North Carolina um no we were just don't say...
come on old come on old which remarkably looks roughly similar waterway between glass go ahead but it's so glamorous must be similar enough terrain I'm not sure I'm not sure I think there's a story in all that's tell but there was one of our Native Americans got off a horse one day and an arrow somehow ended up in his leg and he was taken to a hospital and I could just imagine the Scottish Highland nurse standing there as this Native American full full full wife it comes walking in with an arrow in her leg I'm sure no one believed her story that night but it's kind of fun you know in Scotland we have this you know it is remarkable the scenery there is actually quite similar to North Carolina well I could ask you more questions but I know that the audience has a few so who has the mic first right there hi turn your phone off you don't ask my question is each of you have been inhabiting your character for various periods of time Sam obviously you the longest is there for each of you a particular aspect of your characters personality that you find most challenging to portray good question good question I think sometimes and maybe this speaks for some of it - I don't know but the phrases can be if you don't notice slightly hot-headed scene you can feel a little bit bipolar because one minute they're fine the next minute they have gone off the rails with red-hot anger and it's like okay yeah so maybe that I know I won't you...
thinking the same thing you know and certainly stay me in
seasonone and two you know he's younger and he's more tempestuous and more quick to fire for handle and not think about his consequences and as he's got older I hope you know we see that he's actually become you know more experienced and and more mature but they do have this rather stubborn sight to them which is quite interesting whereas the Mackenzies McKenzie's rule hashtag thank I don't know I feel quite Roger was about challenge and also feel very lucky to have been presented without Jimmy the same team because he's very difficult very difficult very different and difficult to any character I think I've ever played before he's very reserved he's very mild-mannered he's very considered he's quite traditional he's very off his time I think that Sam for me approaching him physically vocally and just that acted that you know the way he presents himself was was quite challenging I had to put a lot of thought and canet development and to that seed of Dragic because he's nowhere near as cool as I am so I had to really torn that don't quite are you wearing a soul today boys where to guess where top two days for your eagle-eyed fans you probably noticed I've changed yeah I've been high I've been getting abuse from salmon and Sophia how I dress I was just channeling Roger you see wasn't me it worked next question hi so obviously there's...
obviously a lot of stuff that's going on throughout
seasonfour in various different places but out of everything that's going on who has the most difficult journey emotionally for this next upcoming
seasonI think we will all answering Harry to have Rolo he's very needy needs a lot of attention I don't know I think I think
seasonfours a big one for all the characters involved and I think that Johnny that each of them go through I think they're all really tested to the absolute limits they have a lot of trials before them in terms of as individuals and the relationships go through a lot of stress wrote on Breanna put through a lot Jamie and Claire also get quite an ordeal in
seasonfour and those does a lot of new characters that are introduced in
seasonfour that you cannot follow a pet through
seasons so I mean it's epic is huge
seasonfools there's a lot and it's M it's stressful points yeah I mean as I say I feel like we'd all say our own characters because once you in there do you feel like they're the most hardened by but I do feel like most of what could happen or go wrong in a person's life happens to Brianna the
seasons as all of you thing but you know but like potpourri like she really is no don't start with me there's no is well I'm gonna have to put up with I watched the first episode in Jamie and Claire got put through it so right now I'm thinking they have to deal with a lot
like always you know that there is a lot to put up with but a yeah I think it has which everyone does have you know quite a journey but breeze one I think for me and there's parallels and Jamie's journey which doesn't give away too much but there's there's a lot of parallels there and I think her story is remarkable actually you'll see
Sophiedoes an incredible job this
Richardnot so much phoning it up he turned up I paid him to say that next question hi was it difficult to transform Scotland into eighteenth-century North Carolina and did any of you get the chance to visit North Carolina before filming
seasonfour gotta take that as a no really North Carolina it wasn't for research I've been there I think I wrote design team of incredible but incredibly detailed John Kerry steel does an amazing job transforming various parts of Scotland on location to you know replicate North Carolina I was stunned to seeing some of the summer sets that we had to walk on it was amazing in Boston Boston yes that's why man I think you know there's there's a there's a lot of forests involved this
seasonand probably pretty much where I spend most of my time but what I loved about it again John did a guy don't go steel didn't did a great it was it's watching Fraser's ridge like grow the settlement goes from being you know a lean-to and a little cabin to really growing into you know a full settlement by the...
end of the
seasonI think that's a really cool because we're setting that up I think for him for future
seasons you know but um yeah it's I did also visit North Carolina before we started and I went to turn to near where Diana said phrases rich would be and it was remarkable how similar it was in landscape and one more question hi how's it going hi I have a question about chemistry between actors I failed I motiva physics I'm curious to know if you think it's something that you build through character development or is it something that you as an actor feel a certain affinity with the corresponding actors it's an attraction whether it's personality wise or physicality or is it a chemistry that you build through character development that makes sense I mean I think chemistry sick a mystery when applied to actors it seems like such a broad term for just two actors that what really well together I think that can be many different factors it can be because they have a natural kind of attraction in the first place through walking well with each other like
Sophieand I think we always seem to be keen on the same page in terms of where we think of characters are headed what we think of the relationship and that and itself can generally of stimulate a chemistry between the actors I think there are many factors involved and what makes out work yeah I mean I think it's what you said you know as act as you go through or often you go through something...
called the chemistry read where you meet with the actor who I mean in my case and this was already cast in the role so I met with
Richardso did a few other girls and you do a read-through I'm at the Katrina don't meet didn't meet with this one I wasn't interested thank you no I feel we should have sat down and had a chemistry test yeah why given lots of different things in there yes I mean I would have Annihilator acidic you pass you get the job get the job yeah also does build the whole thing it gets better shoot or shoot to get strong and I don't know what made the TV vehicle thing but I mean in our case it gets stronger over time you start to well known other actor walks you know and how and how to work better and more efficiently together so that's the thing I think it's a good mix if you you know some people just naturally have a chemistry and come work well together but I think so as
Richardwas saying you know you can have the best chemistry on-screen but if you don't have the same idea for how a scenes gonna go then it's still not going to work so it's kind of a mix of the two things you know just sort of yeah having the same sort of plan for a scene if you like instead of being on the same page as to where your actors are I feel like the best chemistry
seasonis Katrina balfe and Rallo this because it's negative she's not the biggest fan I would say and their role is not very professional no heat and it's funny...
because I saw a picture of cat and Rolo on Instagram and then everyone said oh my God look at them they're so friendly they won't share the same trailers it's not good there's a bit of a diva role he is a bit of a diva thank you well whatever you guys are doing the chemistry it's working and it continues to work and I only got to see the first episode but guys buckle up it's gonna be a wild fourth