Roberto y Farid #3 - ¿Soy Feliz?Mar 05, 2022
hello people how are you welcome to the third episode of
faridwe are very happy that you are here listening to us speaking we are also happy because this is the first time that the whole team has the first time I think I am not the only one who is happy normally we take about how much half an hour to put the equipment almost up to 40 minutes almost more than what we talked about in fact the first chapter that we did not record it that way because I did not pull the equipment but everything is working and technology is in our favor that it can come out like these wikis and this weekend very well thanks for asking the weekend that I did on Friday we went to we went with the entire management group of all the talents we went to the tri that still sang to sing and on Saturday it was calmer I went to see a movie We were watching movies you wanted I went to a ranch this every year I go to a ranch with my dad it's a ranch where they go hunting and one sunset this disgusts my blood well no more I go like and drink but this time no one paid anything because I spent the whole weekend so I just went to get drunk for alcohol in a ranch while with pure gentlemen this and if it was interesting the end is good it was nice it is an experience that we are going once a year and although I really don't like hunting very much yes yes enjoying the way to have fun God says apart I enjoy the company with my dad and my uncles and with the people who go there now what are we going to talk about today I bring you An interesting topic, try to find a translation in Spanish, but I couldn't find it, let's see if it's here, we can get one, but it's a term, it's almost a human condition, it's called red or nick watney, or it's never ending, hedonistic. like an adonis wheel, it is not like a cycle, maybe I could come up with a definition, I could best translate it as a cycle, because what it means is this, this concept is the ability of the human being to adapt to And that your expectations adapt to your reality, what does this mean?
I don't know, it has happened to us many times. I think that all of us who give the objective so much strength do not think and say today when I achieve such a thing or when I reach this point, then I will be happy then my life is settled and I won't have problems we don't give too much weight to a point and then we reach that point we achieve the objective that goal and then some time passes and we feel the same as we always do it's like As we have always felt, it is not the human being's ability to adapt their expectations to their reality and because it is very interesting.
Well, from my point of view, this issue because we often make that mistake, we give so much strength to the achievement of something. reaching a certain point in life where we believe that this is going to solve all our problems and our life will be completely different than when we end up reaching that point and we get the hedonistic cycle, we can s the crises come not because it's like you put so much effort into it that you focus so much on that point you prepared yourself whenever you feel the same and that's why there are also many reports and studies that, for example, with those who win the lottery that they reflect that after a certain time the winners of the lottery report feeling similar or the same as me, for example, I have a question based on this theory, you, Robert, right now, not you, well, well, you have had many successes, I hope you have had many successes, published books like that.
Your work has been quite well received, so much so that I can't even have managed to make a living from your art and what you're passionate about and I say that is an incredible and enviable achievement in a good way. I think that for many I obviously had a question, well now your expectations of this moment this moment adapts naturally but if you could reach a point of comparison but yes without actually comparing how you feel right now well I don't know if you could Would you like to compare how you felt three years ago before well before he published his books before these achievements took place to how you feel right now you could say the same you could say you feel the same I think I do understand the point of the 3000 in this and I understand how it can happen to you that it's normal and I stop your style of view, but I think, that is, I honestly feel happier right now than I did three years ago, but I understand that I think that from now on I could fall into that hedonistic style, but hey here there is the comparison that you are making I think it is unfair because right now you have the point of comparison of the past but at that moment in the past you did not have the comparison of right now if you have a former audience yes definitely yes yes yes return now to the reality in which I was living at that time, we would be very happy because you already have the point of comparison and make it honey to say exactly, but think, that is, forget about this moment of freedom, the achievements that Zorita has completely forget what you have done go back it is the time of your life how you felt at the times times you consider that you were happy I am not telling you based on your reality and whatever you want well you had a good time enjoy you are satisfied if you probably had a A fairly similar level of satisfaction is what I'm going for, I say to myself, I think I did feel a little more anxious, for example, in the last years of my degree, I remember that my anxiety was maybe finishing my degree and I feel that anxiety is that the problem It's that I can't find, that is, I can't find an equivalent to that anxiety that I felt in the last 12 12 months of my career.
For me, if they were that I want to finish and here I think that for you too, if not, definitely, but well, maybe in that moment, well, no, maybe you can't compare a relatively bad moment in your life with a very good one, rather compare a good moment from the past, a good stage that you had with one at this moment, exactly what I think is We had talked a long time ago that it is we talked about how people are just as happy as us or were just as happy as us in the Middle Ages the rebirth to how they are how we are right now having much less and it is because these people had not tried what We have your expectations are given were to your reality exactly and I say lived, that is, maybe having as you say, I think that if there is a difference when you compare a good moment it is a bad moment, for example, if it does not look like the extreme case that in 1930 you were 12 years old and you were an Afro-American person in the US that you were a slave 4,800 I think that in 1900 there was also hopefully in 1820 you were a slave to a family and they treat you badly and they beat you up and throw it at you in 1950 you free yourself I think that definitely since it was a very bad moment in your life right now this is a decent moment if you definitely feel a clear difference, that is, if you cannot compare a bad moment with a good moment I spoke or as an average degree of satisfaction that you have had in a previous moment of your life with the present moment your life is not and it is how the realities adapt and right now if you are touching a very important point because I think that it can be explained there Better that we can go back thousands of years ago and I don't know about people who like cavemen or whatever you want, well, their expectations were adapted to reality and well, they lived to practically survive and that was what they expected of their invisible life without electricity and they did not need it without air conditioning and whatever you want and they could have a certain degree of happiness based on their reality currently we do not dimension much and they mention a life without electricity but why then people of the past without it could living at ease just as happy as you can live right now with them is what I'm going for yes I believe what's happening and right now it's like it's getting to me like at this moment eureka what what happens I think and this for you who are an audio engineer and people who know audio what happens is that I think your exact lifestyle is normalized the peaks stop being so extreme because if you do set yourself milestones like that you tell me what to imagine you are mixed in a family in the usa in the year 1800 if they give you a bicycle you don't see the happiness you feel at that moment because your reality of being a slave is infinitely superior to the happiness you feel Right now, even though I don't even have that person ten years after he passed into slavery, I think what happens is that it normalizes, that is, I think you reach a very high peak of happiness and you suddenly feel very happy here. the descent exactly but then if you are in a bad moment before now that you are in a very good moment what will happen is that maybe you will continue to feel better but the difference will be much more indico girl it will be different that's what happens but well then, where is the key, that is, the key is not to give weight to the destinations because then there is also an analogy that I really like that Alan Watts makes with the music that I think also goes very hand in hand with what he says that we constantly prepare to live that we forget to live no and I believe that literally all of life if we go back from the time we were born, that's how you are small and it prepares you you are in kindergarten and they prepare you for primary school you are in primary school and they prepare you for high school you are in high school and they prepare you on the wall for high school career by career work work will be family have children and you constantly prepare for a specific point in life I don't know how to be 65 years old retire and enjoy everything you reap and You realize that you don't have the energy to live at that age, no, and I think it's the same, you don't constantly prepare for that destination, you forget the whole process since you lost everything to enjoy all the way because the d too much, but when you arrive and you realize that you don't feel very different from how you've always felt, well, the crisis arrives, not because in the end, problems such as matter are not created and destroyed, they simply transform, which I think also goes So yes, of course, in fact, we have both read a book on what is the name of developing during subtle that you care about an energy from Chile.
I think that's it, that is, it's going back to what you have is the problems, I think so, I think that the solution or the way to deal with this, that we can call it, problem, this condition, this condition is to be aware of it because I believe that I I think that the fact that this happens or the fact that this happens is something that is fundamentally related to the human condition, that it is something that you cannot control, it is something that makes us progress that I think that nothing else we have and now the reason why we have it we can get into a discussion that what Freud says is because we are repressed sexual energy to what Baker says it is because we are afraid of death so we have to fool ourselves and be doing things to transcend but I think the fact that he is never satisfied is something completely human, that is, we are always looking at what we can improve and we are always looking at the best, sometimes for better or for worse that others have hiccups and how can we get to the exact me I think the solution is simply to know that this is happening and to analyze it so that it works for us because to analyze it so that instead of telling them to reinvent yourself or instead of feeling envy for what another person has, don't use it as inspiration.
I think it would be The way of treating and enjoying the process is not the way too because, well, in the end, what you will always have if you are always going to prepare for something, well, then s at least you have to make people enjoy the way don't dance while the music plays what elegance language no what this quote that is this reflection that is talking about what he says is that life really isn't always we have seen it as a journey to something it will be typical likes journey phrases a trip something but well it wasn't because a trip something really life is like a mousse like music or like a play that you go to a musical concert or whatever you want and you won't see a specific part of the music there is not going to be a certain chord to her she played the minor accordion I can go now it's over no you go to the concert listen to the concert in its in its complexion or in its totality in its totality like this a play A dance, well, he's not going to know a little step, I'm going to know everything, all the work, the same thing, life is what Alan Wass proposes and I think they are dying with this, it's not about reaching that specific point, but rather enjoying all the life in his complexion and I believe that here A good question is also derived from a concept, not because I also believe that it happens with the question and I'm happy with happiness, not because at the table he asks, but I know that everyone does that to us.
I'm happy or you're happy, it's a question that since it makes a binary game of an answer or yes or no and whatever it means if no because well if we talk about expectations and reality well maybe your answer was at that moment and this is being biased from reality that you are living at that moment he explained and it may be at the moment literally that I am asking you the question if you can be happy and sad on the same day of water and it is sometimes going to be sad because of ten things that you read and then if instead you go to be happy if they ask you at this precise moment we are also going to answer something binary and right now I feel sad if I feel right now and I think that with that question I personally do not like it because I think that it condemns you to see everything that fa We have a long way to go We imagine that it is a person with a very depressive state or an enormous sadness has the certainty question the only thing it will do is awaken a negative side in your brain hence all I need is a country very far frombe happy I think that the transformation of this question that refers to a destination that what we are talking about the translation to refer to a path would be instead of you are happy is how can I be happier that turns the question into a process of continuous improvement that If I don't know at the moment that in reality and expectation that I have at the moment my answer is one sees power or you are not condemned there is still no if one and if you are not today well what can I do to carry a 2 way it is recorded a 3 I think he said is going back to the analogy we were making from the audio I think we can graph happiness as a wave that is constant vidal yes it is that it is constantly going up and down and hopefully it goes up and down but ascending is the intense linear memory process contains infinite exactly then if there are going to be moments where it is rising I believe that happiness I believe that happiness and sadness are transitions of a state respectively and I took that from a series that I really like, if Mad Men I recommend it to you, don drive, but in one chapter he says that happiness is a state of transition for me, if I stay with that a lot, then I think that the way to see what is the question is not if you are happy or not, the question is if your path is upward, that is, if you think that you are progressing and you are doing the best of your life more fully than I think that I even believe that you will never be completely happy I think that the action can now improve a clear and I think that happiness has a logarithmic behavior and returning to mathematics imagine that it is a curve that is approaching the zero of the happiness hill but it will never arrive with it will bring you closer it will bring you closer it will get closer and you will always feel happy or sad because I insist these old ones are clear states and that is how you say it is a point that you never reach because due to the human condition we are going to talk about it retaking the concept of the hedonistic cycle because you will always be normalizing your state that playa sol means that you can always improve there will always be a better point now a question that I would ask you we are talking about and we talked about it a few months ago when we talked about this for the first time that yes brings yes We would bring someone from the Middle Ages and we would put them to live in our modern age.
Maybe at first I will be very happy because it normalizes it. Yes, if they beat you, they put you in the Middle Ages, it would be very sad, but do you think you should take it too? to normalize I think so I think so after a long time yes because at the end of the day another human condition starts here many times to determine satisfaction with what you have you look around like the phrase most looks william dÃaz there's graceful to determine my satisfaction with what I have I look around and if I see that what I have is good even better than many people then I feel satisfied if there are studies that even reveal how people l They give the same things but in different contexts and in one situation they feel satisfied and in others they don't thanks to the comparison they make with others I think so I think so maybe it can take more time and so on but in the end accounts becoming a reality is more until you even say a theory of mine does not have to be true but I would dare to say that maybe and you would even feel that it is a better point because if I return with the knowledge that I have right now with everything too With all that I have right now, well, I will be at one point, even on a plane superior to the superior.
I think that if I return, everyone is wise right now, so if we return to the other condition, what is satisfied based on the comparison, in case I compare myself with the other Weiwei because it seems that I can make the most powerful or I can do what I want in this reality so then that can make me feel much better right of course and going back a little t also to what we talked about at the beginning of when you only focus on the final goal when you arrive if you are lucky and fat final goal begins to lose the sense of a series this weekend called jorgensen pitt of the controversial comedian luis and that it is a series that he released independently and the series is a series of medium type pedro for months that are good because many dialogues make personal accounts that he does not have to give and there is a dialogue that was very marked between two characters that are characters that just appear on stage and they have a date that they met to understand and they start talking the girl starts talking about how she's depressed because all her life she dreamed of working in a certain newspaper and now that working in a certain newspaper lost consciousness and the father said the boy's father tells the girl that he had reached the moon and that the exact same thing had happened to him then I think going back to bed to the treadmill in the room As the cycle has said, the hedonistic cycle, I believe that the solution is to remove the focus from the final goal and enjoy the process because I believe that this is the key.
I believe that when you enjoy the process or when you enjoy or like what the process that becomes the reward and if all the time you are only waiting for a final result you are not only waiting to be happy when you finish publishing such a thing you will not be happy in a very short time so if you are I don't know writing a book and your happiness will only be when you have the book published, so you will be happy only on the date you publish it, literal guide style, you will suffer me everything else is when you start to focus on really enjoying what you like to make the way in the way in the process I think you are going to reach a level or I think that at least you are going to start to incline your wave of happiness upwards but also adding also the reality that not all They are going to achieve what they want the most is a reality that made me sad and what a pity but it is a reality not everyone is going to achieve it I think it is not, that is, I think they are not there I do not think it is so tragic because I even believe that when even if you achieve what you want most at that moment you are going to want something more but currently you are not going to achieve it, it is not exactly the complete agreement for that very reason if I tell you I will take this out of you that unfortunately not everyone is going to achieve what they want more because if you give so much strength to an achievement of something to destiny what we are talking about right now that in the end is a paradox if it does that to you so much and you do not manage to achieve it then you are condemned to live a life of misery without being able to speak completely without knowing that if they had achieved it, they would have arrived, they would have come out normal, not even 3,000 would have normalized and as you say it would have been a cycle where, well, now you put another one on, I insist as you say, I agree, you can, you can't channel this r towards towards something positive on the side of the team brothers you can do it to improve yourself to embrace reading to progress thanks to this condition that we have we arrived on the scene thanks to this condition that we have we have this plurality of life in love we are talking the iphones we have computers Because human beings have the need to constantly improve themselves, they are good channelings of the genre, exactly Donis is well, so to conclude I'm going to say that they are left with this hedonistic treadmill or this cycle of anise is well, the one at the beginning I agree with you in the first step be aware of it because it makes you aware that expectations of destinations also drop and you change the approach by nature the process as you want as you say it is not I think it urges the key is first to be aware of this and thanks to awareness change the focus to the path to the path and the process there is no enjoying it as much as possible and ent Always seek in processes of continuous improvement, not so much in terms of life satisfaction, such as happiness, but in your objectives, not always be in search and that is achieved because in the process path I think that it contradicts a lot, perhaps a popular saying that for many things It is true that ignorance is bliss, I think because in this case the fact of understanding that this happens and that this cycle of always looking for more liberation is naturally human.
I think that knowing it frees you and helps you to be happy because if not you're just chasing a piece of meat that they're hanging on you anyway and that it's never like you're never going to eat it's like him walking looking for the rainbow beyond the horizon what do you think what topics are you talking about but it never comes close to you yes I definitely believe too that consciousness is the first step to be able to do what you want with it since you are aware and you know that it is inevitable, well, where can you channel it and as you said well, well well let's take advantage of that condition to improve ourselves to transcend to improve to enter a process of continuous improvement in your life well well with this we conclude people thank you very much for listening to this third episode
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